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LiberalNation
04-17-2007, 08:21 PM
Good for him. If the dems pick this issue up they'll only end up loosing on it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/virginia_tech_gun_control;_ylt=Ap_kllUcpKQoYoKOpC0 gqZCs0NUE

WASHINGTON - After the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) cautioned Tuesday against a "rush to judgment" on stricter gun control. A leading House supporter of restrictions on firearms conceded passage of legislation would be difficult.

"I think we ought to be thinking about the families and the victims and not speculate about future legislative battles that might lie ahead," said Reid, a view expressed by other Democratic leaders the day after the shootings that left 33 dead on the campus of Virginia Tech.

Democrats traditionally have been in the forefront of efforts to pass gun control legislation, but there is a widespread perception among political strategists that the issue has been a loser in recent campaigns. It was notably absent from the agenda Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) unveiled earlier this year when the party took control of the House and Senate for the first time in more than a decade.

In the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings, a few Democrats renewed the call for gun control legislation, and more are expected to join them.

"I believe this will reignite the dormant effort to pass commonsense gun regulations in this nation," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record), a California Democrat who was a leader in the failed drive to renew a ban on certain types of assault weapons that expired in 2004.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., was one of very few lawmakers to defer pushing for gun control in the early hours after the shootings. "There will be time to debate the steps needed to avert such tragedies," he said on Monday, "but today, our thoughts and prayers go to their families."

By coincidence, Kennedy and Rep. Xavier Becerra (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., are scheduled to attend a demonstration Friday at a firing range used by U.S. Capitol Police to draw attention to microstamping, a procedure by which serial numbers are placed on ammunition casings. The goal is to allow police and other investigators to quickly track ammunition to the gun that fired it.

The two lawmakers support legislation to require microstamping for all guns manufactured after 2009, and aides to both said they planned to go ahead with the demonstration.

Overall, though, said Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., "It is a tough sell" to pass gun control legislation. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., held a brief meeting on the subject to discuss possible legislation, including a proposal for an instant background check for gun purchasers. But there was no apparent eagerness by Reid, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (news, bio, voting record), D-Md., or her to predict Democrats would lead a drive to toughen existing laws.

One senior Democrat, Rep. Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record) of New York, said gun rights advocates are simply too influential to allow a tightening of gun control laws. "It's a regional thing, it's a cultural thing," Rangel said, arguing that even in areas where 85 percent of the people support more restrictions, the 15 percent minority is far more active and outspoken.

Less than a month ago, Pelosi and other Democratic leaders abruptly pulled legislation to give the District of Columbia voting representation in the House. Republicans were using the issue to try to force a vote on repeal of the capital's handgun ban, and Democrats feared it would pass.

Hoyer told reporters he thought and hoped the shootings at Virginia Tech would make it harder for Republicans to prevail when the voting rights bill returns to the House floor later this week.

He refused to be drawn into a discussion of the longer-term political consequences of the shooting, saying, "All I am saying is there will be a debate. I am not going to enter into the debate today."

Not all lawmakers were as reticent.

Sen. Larry Craig (news, bio, voting record), R-Idaho, one of Congress' most persistent advocates of gun rights, noted that the student who police say was the shooter at Virginia Tech had brought a weapon onto campus in violation of restrictions. He said he doubted a law could be passed that would protect "any of us when somebody who is mentally deranged decides to do this."

President Bush said in an interview with ABC News that he expects a debate on gun policy, but now is not the time.

"I think when a guy walks in and shoots 32 people it's going to cause there to be a lot of policy debate," he said. "Now is not the time to do the debate until we're actually certain about what happened. And after we help people get over their grieving. But yeah I think there's going to be a lot of discussion."

One law enforcement official has said that the gunman's backpack contained a receipt for a March purchase of a Glock 9 mm pistol. The gunman held a green card, meaning he was a legal, permanent resident, federal officials said. That meant he was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of a felony.

Democrats have grown less supportive of gun control legislation as a party in the past decade.

After the shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado, then-Vice President Al Gore cast a tie-breaking vote in the Senate on legislation to reduce the availability of certain firearms. He and other gun control advocates claimed victory, but many strategists believe the vote hurt him in the 2000 presidential election.

Gun control tends to win favor among suburban voters, but it often stirs opposition in less heavily populated areas

So far this year, there has been little evidence that Democrats feel otherwise after winning control of the House by picking up seats last fall in parts of Indiana, Ohio, Texas, Arizona and elsewhere where hunting is popular.

stephanie
04-17-2007, 08:26 PM
Translation...Give it a few weeks for all this to settle down...:coffee:

manu1959
04-17-2007, 08:29 PM
harry is from nevada....no way he champions gun control....unless he is looking to retire

stephanie
04-17-2007, 08:35 PM
harry is from Nevada....no way he champions gun control....unless he is looking to retire

Harry can go around saying this, because he has the media and the lesser known Democrats who will carry the gun control issue for him...
Give it time....It's already starting..

lily
04-17-2007, 11:57 PM
WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOO let's all get as much political capital from this tragedy as we can wring out of it......bunch of vultures!

Samantha
04-18-2007, 12:00 AM
Translation...Give it a few weeks for all this to settle down...:coffee:Wow thanks for translating for us. What would we do without your brilliance! :laugh2:

stephanie
04-18-2007, 12:17 AM
Wow thanks for translating for us. What would we do without your brilliance! :laugh2:



Does putting people down for no reason, other then.." you can," make you feel your superior??

It must..:cheers2:

I feel sorry for you.

Samantha
04-18-2007, 10:52 AM
Does putting people down for no reason, other then.." you can," make you feel your superior??

It must..:cheers2:

I feel sorry for you.I'm sorry. I've been mean to you. I don't mean to hurt your feelings. I'll be more thoughtful in the future.

avatar4321
04-18-2007, 10:59 AM
harry is from nevada....no way he champions gun control....unless he is looking to retire

From what I hear about Nevadans, Harry might be looking to retire regardless...

Hobbit
04-18-2007, 11:17 AM
It's sick watching these politicians looking at this as a gun control issue. The blood of the dead had not even run cold before politicians and 'journalists' started squawking about how this whole tragedy was caused by that pesky second ammendment. I even read a column from New York where the writer pointed out that a lot of guns seized by the New York cops can be traced to Virginia, then basically asked, "Yeah, where's your second ammendment now? How does it feel to reap what you sow?"

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. No amount of gun control laws can prevent a sufficiently motivated person from getting a gun and killing people. What they will do is keep guns out of the hands of people who might defend themselves from these psychos. If concealed carry permits and law enforcement and military liscences were extended to college campuses (which was in a bill in the Virginia legislature that got killed in committe), we can't know if it would have prevented or even lessened this tragedy, but contrary to popular belief, it couldn't have hurt.