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red states rule
10-12-2009, 06:17 PM
Obama and the Dems have to find some way to pay for Obamacare. I wonder how Obama supporters will spin this?

Or will they say people who do not make less then $250,000/yr do not get sick?


TAX THE SICK: OBAMA’S NEW PLAN

By Dick Morris And Eileen McGann 10.8.2009

Faced with a need to scrounge for revenue to fund his plan for health care, President Barack Obama and Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus have come up with a brilliant new idea: Tax the sick!

In a new amendment to the health care bill, they propose to limit the deductibility of medical expenses on income taxes.

Now, taxpayers may deduct any medical expenses that exceed 7.5% of their Adjusted Gross Income. Obama and Baucus want to raise that threshold to 10% as long as the taxpayer is under 65.

Eight million Americans are sick enough and poor enough that they have to pay more than 7.5% of their income in medical expenses. And it is these folks that the liberals Obama and Baucus plan to tax! Six million of them earn less than $75,000 a year!

For a family earning $75,000 a year and facing out-of-pocket medical bills of $7, 500, this proposal would cost them about $600 a year in extra taxes.

And let’s remember who it is that they are taxing. This proposal affects people whose incomes are so limited and whose medical costs are so high that they exceed 7.5% of their pre-tax income.

Their proposal literally hopes to raise $20 billion over ten years by taxing sick people.

The Democrats defend their proposal by saying that it would discourage health care spending. But nobody deliberately spends 7.5% of their income on medical costs unless they are pretty sick and needy.

Obama and Baucus have singled out the sickest among the middle class for this heinous tax. (The poor will not have to pay it because they are eligible for Medicaid). Originally, the Democrats continued their war on the elderly by proposing to tax everyone who spends more than the 7.5% threshold on medical costs. But they retreated when it became clear that six million elderly would be hit with the tax. Now they just sock it to eight million sic k, middle income Americans.

This tax, and their desire to cut Medicare and Medicaid by $500 billion, makes Obama and Baucus unlike any Democrats I have ever known. Democrats, at least when I worked for Clinton, defended the elderly and the sick rather than cut the former and tax the latter.

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2009/10/08/tax-the-sick-obamas-new-plan/#more-649

CSM
10-13-2009, 06:30 AM
But supposedly it's the Republicans that want you to die early! Seems to me that a measure like this will ensure that folks die early because they can't afford the health care AND the taxes.

On the other hand, if the sick ones are smart, they will refuse to pay the taxes and get sent to jail where they will be well cared for.

red states rule
10-13-2009, 06:34 AM
But supposedly it's the Republicans that want you to die early! Seems to me that a measure like this will ensure that folks die early because they can't afford the health care AND the taxes.

On the other hand, if the sick ones are smart, they will refuse to pay the taxes and get sent to jail where they will be well cared for.

Dems do not really want the middle class to have affordable health care. They want to control the health care industry

People will be forced to buy Obamacare, pay more for energy because of cap and tax, and more taxes on cigarettes and alcohol

But keep in mind, Obama won't raise taxed for 95% of the population

Insein
10-13-2009, 09:28 AM
But supposedly it's the Republicans that want you to die early! Seems to me that a measure like this will ensure that folks die early because they can't afford the health care AND the taxes.

On the other hand, if the sick ones are smart, they will refuse to pay the taxes and get sent to jail where they will be well cared for.

The main problem with not controlling the media is the misconceptions that go along with it. People assume that Republicans are racist because the media says so due to policies that want blacks to help better themselves without handouts. Any black that makes it on his own without government help is an uncle tom. People assume republicans hate the elderly and want to steal their money because the media says so due to trying to reform failing programs like social secuirty and medicare, yet said reforms are direly needed and would help the elderly overall.

Whats truly ironic and sad is that everything conervatives and republicans are accused of, is exactly what Democrats and Liberals stand for. Racism; they have systematic kept minorities under their thumb for decades, giving them just enough but never letting them get ahead of themselves. Elderly Care: like minorities, they use this voting bloc by promising every handout under the sun and then wait for them to die so they don't have to give it.

red states rule
10-13-2009, 09:31 AM
The main problem with not controlling the media is the misconceptions that go along with it. People assume that Republicans are racist because the media says so due to policies that want blacks to help better themselves without handouts. Any black that makes it on his own without government help is an uncle tom. People assume republicans hate the elderly and want to steal their money because the media says so due to trying to reform failing programs like social secuirty and medicare, yet said reforms are direly needed and would help the elderly overall.

Whats truly ironic and sad is that everything conervatives and republicans are accused of, is exactly what Democrats and Liberals stand for. Racism; they have systematic kept minorities under their thumb for decades, giving them just enough but never letting them get ahead of themselves. Elderly Care: like minorities, they use this voting bloc by promising every handout under the sun and then wait for them to die so they don't have to give it.

Here is a perfect example, with great visuals tossed in

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Trigg
10-13-2009, 11:25 AM
Here is a perfect example, with great visuals tossed in

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In the last few seconds of that clip he says the people calling the President Hitler are "bad Americans".

Now I agree with that, too bad the media only sees it as a problem when Republicans do these things.

red states rule
10-13-2009, 10:26 PM
In the last few seconds of that clip he says the people calling the President Hitler are "bad Americans".

Now I agree with that, too bad the media only sees it as a problem when Republicans do these things.

Liberals for the most part suffer from both selective memory loss, and selective outrage