Obama’s Sept. 8 speech to schoolchildren

[stephanie]

lots of links in her article and more at her site.

By Michelle Malkin • September 1, 2009 01:06 PM President Obama told a student report last month that he would be making an address to schoolchildren on September 8:

ServiceWire has the announcement and broadcast schedule for the speech.

The Daily Paul picked up the story last week and linked to teachers’ manuals pegged to Obama’s address, which have now been linked on Drudge.

The documents have a heavy activist bent:

During the Speech:

• As the President speaks, teachers can ask students to write down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally meaningful. Students could use a note-taking graphic organizer such as a Cluster Web, or students could record their thoughts on sticky notes. Younger children can draw pictures and write as appropriate. As students listen to the speech, they could think about the following:

What is the President trying to tell me?

What is the President asking me to do?

What new ideas and actions is the President challenging me to think about?

• Students can record important parts of the speech where the President is asking them to do something. Students might think about: What specific job is he asking me to do? Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?

• Students can record any questions they have while he is speaking and then discuss them after the speech. Younger children may need to dictate their questions.

After the Speech:

• Teachers could ask students to share the ideas they recorded, exchange sticky notes or stick notes on a butcher paper poster in the classroom to discuss main ideas from the speech, i.e. citizenship, personal responsibility, civic duty.
• Students could discuss their responses to the following questions:

What do you think the President wants us to do?

Does the speech make you want to do anything?

Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us?


all the rest..
http://michellemalkin.com/

[Gaffer]

Ah the dark lord youth program, going into full swing.

[stephanie]

Ah the dark lord youth program, going into full swing.

I've been seeing on some sites they are calling for a nation wide keep your kids out of school that day..

[Gaffer]

I've been seeing on some sites they are calling for a nation wide keep your kids out of school that day..

I would definitely support that. Will have to ask my son and daughter about what they are doing and what the grand kids are getting and hearing. Not all schools take part in such things.

[Trinity]

And I can already hear my 13 year old.....Oh god do I really have to listen to this shit, why doesn't he just shut up already.

Which may end up getting him suspended so hmmm maybe I will just keep them home that day.

[Gaffer]

And I can already hear my 13 year old.....Oh god do I really have to listen to this shit, why doesn't he just shut up already.

Which may end up getting him suspended so hmmm maybe I will just keep them home that day.

I'm sure neither one would mind. Do you know if the school even is doing anything regarding that program?

[Trinity]

I would definitely support that. Will have to ask my son and daughter about what they are doing and what the grand kids are getting and hearing. Not all schools take part in such things.

So far no word at the boy's school. But Heather is going to ask tomorrow.

[Trinity]

I'm sure neither one would mind. Do you know if the school even is doing anything regarding that program?

No they would be thrilled to get suspended! They see it as a vacation day.

[Gaffer]

So far no word at the boy's school. But Heather is going to ask tomorrow.

I'm sure her father will be keeping her home too if they are.

[Trinity]

I'm sure her father will be keeping her home too if they are.

Yep, I'm sure he will.

[Gaffer]

Wonder if it will make the news if there's a massive boycott of the schools that day. You know, kinda give people a good idea how popular the dark lord really is.

[stephanie]

Hey Kat, any word of this in your schools?

[Mr. P]

Has anyone found the content of the speech?

I'm reserving my opinion for now..Why? Because when the enemy is about to step on a land mine the last thing you want to do is jump up and yell STOP!!! if ya get my drift.

[Trinity]

Well I just talked to another child at the intermediate school and she said she didn't know anything about this one but they had to watch when Obama got the key to the white house.

She says it was so boring!......... and kid's got in trouble for saying he sucked, and that he was going to kill us all. They made them watch it during lunch. All the kid's ended up getting in trouble and they had to have no talking during lunch.

[Gaffer]

Well I just talked to another child at the intermediate school and she said she didn't know anything about this one but they had to watch when Obama got the key to the white house.

She says it was so boring!......... and kid's got in trouble for saying he sucked, and that he was going to kill us all. They made them watch it during lunch. All the kid's ended up getting in trouble and they had to have no talking during lunch.

Even the kids are in revolt. It's very likely they will not advertise this in the schools just to avoid a case of the dark flu on that day.

[stephanie]

Glen Beck is talking about this right now, the parents calling in are NOT HAPPY at all..

[stephanie]

Critics Decry Obama's 'Indoctrination' Plan for Students
A suggested lesson plan that calls on students to write letters to themselves about what they can do to help President Obama following his address to students nationwide is troubling and establishes the president as a "superintendent in chief," education experts told FOXNews.com.
By Joshua Rhett Miller

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, September 02, 2009
A suggested lesson plan that calls on school kids to write letters to themselves about what they can do to help President Obama is troubling some education experts, who say it establishes the president as a "superintendent in chief" and may encourage children to support him politically.

Obama will deliver a national address directly to students on Tuesday, Sept. 8, which will be the first day of classes for many children across the country. In a letter to school principals last week, U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan said the president will "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning." Obama will also call for a "shared responsibility" among students, parents and educators to maximize learning potential.

Duncan's letter includes "a menu of classroom activities for students in grades preK-6 and for students in grades 7-12. These are ideas developed by and for teachers to help engage students and stimulate discussion on the importance of education in their lives. We are also staging a student video contest on education."

Teachers could extend the lesson by having students "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals." Another suggestion is to have students "interview and share about their goals with one another to create a supportive community."

But Obama's critics say the lesson plans and the president's calls are troubling on many levels.

"In general, I don't think there's a problem if the president uses the bully pulpit to tell kids to work hard, study hard and things like that. But there are some troubling hints in this, both educationally and politically," said Neal McCluskey, associate director of Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom.

Among the concerns, McCluskey said, is the notion that students who do not support Obama or his educational policies will begin the school year "behind the eight ball," or somehow academically trailing their peers.

"It essentially tries to force kids to say the president and the presidency is inspiring, and that's very problematic," McCluskey said. "It's very concerning that you would do that."

Parents of public school students would also have to pay for that "indoctrination," regardless of their political background, he said.

"That's the fundamental problem. They could easily be funding the indoctrination of their children."

Frederick Hess, director of education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, said the suggested lesson plans cross the line between instruction and advocacy.

"I don't think it's appropriate for teachers to ask students to help promote the president's preferred school reforms and policies," Hess said. "It very much starts to set up the president as a superintendent in chief."

Amid the debate on the federal government's level of involvement on issues like health care and others, Hess said, "there's a lot of people" on both sides of the political spectrum who will rightfully be concerned with the president's call to action.

"It shows exactly what the problem is," he said. "This is going to open the door to all kinds of concerns."

Messages to the White House seeking comment were not immediately returned early Wednesday.

After reading the Department of Education lesson plans for the speech, McCluskey said he noticed several passages that should set off "alarm bells," including language that attempts to "glorify President Obama" in the minds of young students.

"It could be a blatantly political move," he said. "Nobody knows for sure, but it gives that impression."

McCluskey also noted that the lesson plans for young students contain suggestions to write letters to themselves on how they can help the president, but that suggestion is not in the lesson plan for middle and high schoolers -- perhaps due to the likelihood of increased political ties at that age.

"You don't want to see this coming from the president," McCluskey said. "You don't want to see this coming from the federal government."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/02/critics-decry-obamas-lesson-plan-students/

[Gaffer]

He's campaigning for their votes in 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028 etc. Does anyone really think he plans to give up his position as supreme ruler?

[Binky]

As far as I know, my grandaughters don't start school until Sept. 9th. BUT, I am damn sure going to tell my daughter about this to make sure she knows what's going on, and just in case it starts on the 8th, she can keep them home.......I'll be damned if I want anyone trying to program their young minds to think the way they want them to think....Hell will freeze over first.....

[Mr. P]

As far as I know, my grandaughters don't start school until Sept. 9th. BUT, I am damn sure going to tell my daughter about this to make sure she knows what's going on, and just in case it starts on the 8th, she can keep them home.......I'll be damned if I want anyone trying to program their young minds to think the way they want them to think....Hell will freeze over first.....

Then ya need to get em out of Government school. It has been an indoctrination system for years now.

[AFbombloader]

Then ya need to get em out of Government school. It has been an indoctrination system for years now.

That may be true, but I know my sons know the truth. It is my responsibility toknow what crap the schools are trying to put into their heads and to fill it with the truth. It is the system that is at fault, but we as parents (as a country, not anyone here specifically) can and should do more.

If they try to get either of my sons to sit and write a letter to themselves, they won't like what they have to read. Neither of them think the best of what is happening to this country right now, and the letters would say as much.

AF.:salute:

[stephanie]

Circumvention: The Obama way
By Michelle Malkin • September 2, 2009 12:37 PM Reader Katie e-mails about how the US Department of Education circumvented elected school officials to send notice of President Obama’s junior lobbyist recruitment speech on September 8:

Michelle,

I am a conservative school board member in the Atlanta area…

It is very important to note that the DOE sent letters directly to the Principals of every public school in the country - Completely bypassing the locally elected Boards of Education and the Superintendents.

I found out about this last night - I let my Superintendent know. Here in Georgia, we start school early in August so although there is very little time before 9/8/09 - we have a chance of letting our parents know so they can opt out. I will most likely lose any protest against showing it - although as a last ditch effort I will ask it be taped so we can discuss as a Board whether or not to show it. But what about the school districts that start on Sept 8th? They have no time to let parents know so they can opt out.

Planned? I think so.


from..http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/02/circumvention-the-obama-way/

[Trinity]

Even the kids are in revolt. It's very likely they will not advertise this in the schools just to avoid a case of the dark flu on that day.

:laugh2: I'm sure!

[Kathianne]

Hey Kat, any word of this in your schools?

Usually I make decisions like that for the school. This time? Principal has been pro-Obama, but sounds like he's lost favor with her. So, I've yet to hear a thing and lord knows I'm not bringing it up. :coffee:

[Gaffer]

Usually I make decisions like that for the school. This time? Principal has been pro-Obama, but sounds like he's lost favor with her. So, I've yet to hear a thing and lord knows I'm not bringing it up. :coffee:

Keep an eye pealed Kath, you know how they like to spring surprised and do things behind everyone's back.

[Kathianne]

Keep an eye pealed Kath, you know how they like to spring surprised and do things behind everyone's back.

Indeed, as foretold, a first ever email regarding social studies lessons, notice she says 'white house' but it's not::


Teachers:

I am attaching an email I received from the White House about Pres.
Obama's speech to school children. It will be delivered at 11:AM on
Tuesday and kids could view it on the Smart Boards (3-8) or televisions.

Please consider sharing this with the kids if we are back (or when we are
back) from our evacuation drill.

Diana


From: "U.S. Department of Education" <EDSchoolinfo@vipconsulting.com>
Subject: Details on President Obama’s Speech to Students, Sept. 8 12 PM ET (GA,HI,IA,ID,IL,IN,KS,,KY,LA,MA,,MD,ME,MI)
Date: Thu, September 3, 2009 12:38
To: dsmendez@holyghostschool.org
[You have received this message because of your affiliation with Holy Ghost School.]

A MESSAGE FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

President Barack Obama to Make Historic Speech to America’s Students
C-SPAN and White House Web Site to Broadcast Speech Live
Speech Scheduled One Hour Earlier to Noon Eastern Time

On September 8, 2009, history will be made. Will you be a part of it?
At 12:00 p.m., Eastern Time (ET), President Barack Obama will deliver a national address to the students of America. (Please note that this is a change from the originally scheduled time.) During this special address, the president will speak directly to the nation’s children and youth about persisting and succeeding in school. The president will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning.

The U.S. Department of Education encourages students of all ages, teachers, and administrators to participate in this historic moment by watching the president deliver the address, which will be broadcast live on the White House Web site (http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/) and on C-SPAN at 12:00 p.m., ET. We also encourage educators to use this moment to help students get focused and inspired to begin the new academic year. The Department of Education offers educators a menu of classroom activities—created by its teachers-in-residence, the Teaching Ambassador Fellows—to help engage students in the address and stimulate classroom discussions about the
importance of education.

To learn more, please see the following:
Frequently Asked Questions (http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html#faqs)
Classroom Activities (Pre-K – 6)

(http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf)

Classroom Activities (7 – 12) (http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf)

To further encourage student engagement, the U.S. Department of Education is launching the “I Am What I Learn” video contest. On September 8, we will ask students to respond to the president’s challenge by creating videos, up to two minutes in length, describing the steps they will take to improve their education and the role education will play in fulfilling their dreams.
Please encourage all students age 13 and older to create and upload their videos to YouTube by October 8. Submissions can be in the form of video blogs, public service announcements (PSAs), music videos, or documentaries.

Students are encouraged to have fun and be creative with this project! The general public will then vote on their favorites to determine the top 20 finalists. These 20 videos will be reviewed by a panel of judges including U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. The panel will choose three winners, each of whom will receive a $1,000 cash prize.

Starting this Friday, you can visit www.ed.gov/iamwhatilearn to find out more.



Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
When will the president deliver his address?
President Obama will speak to the students of America at 12:00 p.m., ET on Tuesday,

[Gaffer]

Most children are not the least bit interested in politics. Why does the dark lord feel it is necessary to deliver an hour long speech to a bunch of kids who could care less.

Thanks for posting that Kath. Looks like a government mandate.

[Mr. P]

Well, if it's about persisting and succeeding in school and to challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. I'm all for it.
Especially for urban city minorities that look at him as a hero or sorts...lord knows THEY need some inspiration!
Then again Bill Cosby has done that many times and faced the wrath of the black community. Now if he crosses the line into politics I think he'll fail..we'll see.

[sgtdmski]

He's campaigning for their votes in 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028 etc. Does anyone really think he plans to give up his position as supreme ruler?

Won't work. As we know the majority of the 18 - 25 year olds are the most apathetic when it comes to voting. While there is a thrill with 18 year olds voting for the first time, it usually does not turn into large turnouts.

Also, take this into consideration, many youth rebel against their parents and do not always hold to the same convictions of their parents, Republican parents producing Democrat children and vice versa. I can't remember the study that produced this information, but it was a two day discussion in a polisci class I took.

dmk

[Kathianne]

Well, if it's about persisting and succeeding in school and to challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. I'm all for it.
Especially for urban city minorities that look at him as a hero or sorts...lord knows THEY need some inspiration!
Then again Bill Cosby has done that many times and faced the wrath of the black community. Now if he crosses the line into politics I think he'll fail..we'll see.

I agree, however it looks like the purpose was not that. Instead it was making the President a god like figure, that kids should follow. I doubt either of us agree with that premise.

[Gaffer]

Won't work. As we know the majority of the 18 - 25 year olds are the most apathetic when it comes to voting. While there is a thrill with 18 year olds voting for the first time, it usually does not turn into large turnouts.

Also, take this into consideration, many youth rebel against their parents and do not always hold to the same convictions of their parents, Republican parents producing Democrat children and vice versa. I can't remember the study that produced this information, but it was a two day discussion in a polisci class I took.

dmk

I don't think you caught what I was getting at. He wants to be president for life. The 2010 elections will be very telling. Most of the congress should be voted out. If not then there is something seriously wrong with our electoral system. ACORN and the unions are going to make sure the current congress creatures get back in. They will have the dead, convicts, illegals and fictitious people voting in the next election to ensure they stay in power. There's already a bill being considered that ends the term limits for president. He and his marxist cronies are not going to step aside.

[Kathianne]

I wonder if the average American knows that the average middle school student believes that the Europeans in the 14 & 15th C purposely used bio-terrorism to kill the indigenous people of the Americas. Note, they give more scientific information to those people than was available at the time.

The students do not understand/believe that the Europeans, regardless of the acknowledgment of xenophobia, may not have not understood the workings of the diseases. They believe they MEANT to kill the indigenous people, regardless of facts.

[stephanie]

Sounds like the stuff Van Jones was pushing, did you see it?

he said the white people are spraying toxins on the immigrants who are working the fields here..

we have to get our history books out of the hands of the radical lefties in this country to start with..

[Mr. P]

I wonder if the average American knows that the average middle school student believes that the Europeans in the 14 & 15th C purposely used bio-terrorism to kill the indigenous people of the Americas. Note, they give more scientific information to those people than was available at the time.

The students do not understand/believe that the Europeans, regardless of the acknowledgment of xenophobia, may not have not understood the workings of the diseases. They believe they MEANT to kill the indigenous people, regardless of facts.

Oh that's rich! I'd love to be in the classroom and ask: Wouldn't the Europeans be exposed to the same disease then?
When did we have vaccines for smallpox, measles, black plague..etc..?

Never mind I can hear em now..."Yeah, but....."

[Joyful HoneyBee]

Stephanie: he said the white people are spraying toxins on the immigrants who are working the fields here..


Van Jones should know a lot about spraying toxins...every time he opens his mouth something toxic sprays out.


Mr. P: Wouldn't the Europeans be exposed to the same disease then?

The thing with those diseases is that Europeans had been exposed enough to those diseases that they had developed immunity to them. Native American's had not, therefore, had no resistance whatsoever.

[Mr. P]

Van Jones should know a lot about spraying toxins...every time he opens his mouth something toxic sprays out.



The thing with those diseases is that Europeans had been exposed enough to those diseases that they had developed immunity to them. Native American's had not, therefore, had no resistance whatsoever.

Yes they had been exposed and had some immunity but very little. Are you joining the kids in their belief that diseases were spread intentionally?

[Joyful HoneyBee]

Poor undereducated kids, no, I surely don't join in their misconceptions. People back then had only the most rudimentary understanding of disease processes; but its a different world now isn't it. We've already seen the anthrax scare and who knows what else is yet to come.

[Gaffer]

Just to help clarify things a bit. The disease we are mainly talking about was small pox. It was spread just by the interacting of people carrying the disease with other people. But it was also spread by the British in certain areas where they gave blankets to the Indians that were infected with small pox in order to eradicate the tribes in certain regions. This is the stuff jones is grabbing as an example. It was a form of biological warfare. There were also cases where blankets and cloths were given to aid tribes not realizing the things were infected. As no one understood what germs were.

As usual jones is only looking at what he can condemn white people for. Not at real history.

[Trinity]

This went up today for some of my surrounding areas. (note some schools flat out refused (it's during lunch hour), others are giving the parents the choice)




Local Schools Make Plans For Obama Education Speech
Some Schools Give Students Chance To Opt Out

POSTED: 12:10 pm EDT September 4, 2009

CINCINNATI -- When President Barack Obama talks to students about education Tuesday, some students across the Tri-State won't hear what he has to say.

The president is scheduled to deliver a speech Tuesday morning that will be available to be shown in classrooms across the country. The topic of his speech is education, but the president has come under fire from critics who accuse him of pushing a political agenda on students.

The controversy has led to a Facebook campaign urging parents to keep their children home on Tuesday so they won't have to hear the speech. But it looks like some parents won't have to worry about that.

Cincinnati

Cincinnati public schools said showing the speech will be up to each individual teacher. Teachers who decide to show the speech will send a note to parents advising them that their students can opt out.

Walton

A representative for schools in Walton, Ky., told News 5's Brian Hamrick that they will not show the speech unless it fits into the class' curriculum.

St. Joe's

St. Joe's in Cold Spring, Ky., said the speech will not be shown because it is during lunch.

Reading

Reading Schools Superintendent Scott Inskeep said children in kindergarten through sixth grade will not view the speech because it falls during the lunch hour. Students in grades 7 through 12 will watch the speech in their social studies classrooms. Inskeep said the district is communicating with parents via email to give them an opportunity to opt out.

Boone County

Boone County schools will tape the speech and show it later. Notes will again be sent home giving parents an opportunity to opt out.

Forest Hills

Forest Hills said it will allow teachers to decide whether to show the speech either live or tape delayed. The district posted a letter to parents on its Web site stating, "We have reviewed the preliminary letters from the U.S. Department of Education, and feel that the intent of the content of this presidential 'back-to-school' speech is non-partisan and is focused on teaching children to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their own learning. These are ideas that we hope all members of our community can support."

Forest Hills said parents can send teachers a note if they want their child to be excused from listening to the speech.

Madeira

Steve Kramer, Superintendent of Madeira City Schools, sent an e-mail to parents stating that the content of the speech is already reinforced on a daily basis in its schools. "Given the belief our students receive this message day in and day out from our parents, our teachers and our community, we do not have district plans to broadcast the President's address live," the e-mail said.

Kramer said the district would record the speech and view it to determine whether it supports the school's curriculum. The district said it would notify parents if the decision is made to show the speech to students.

Text of the president's speech will be made available online Monday so that parents can review it and decide whether they want their children to participate.

Obama is not the first president to televise a speech to classrooms. Ronald Reagan gave a speech on gun control and balancing the budget in 1988. George H.W. Bush gave a speech about drugs to students in 1991.

[bullypulpit]

So Poppy Bush's address to school kids in '91 was fascist indoctrination? Y'all really need to get a grip and step down. If this is the best conservatives have, then the conservative movement is in REAL trouble. I'm sure the intellectual fathers of the American conservative movement, such as, William F. Buckley Jr. , James Burnham and Whittaker Chambers are all spinning in their graves at the sight, and sound, of their mentally retarded intellectual progeny. Actually, pseudo-intellectual progeny, as their maunderings have nothing to do with the intellectual rigor applied to American conservatism by the aforementioned individuals.

It would be fair to say that the current crop of conservative intelligentsia have retreated from reason and, rather, are stoking the irrational fears of their readers and listeners. This being more in line with the irrationalism and anti-intellectualism of the John Birch Society which Buckley, and others, soundly repudiated in 1964, stating,

<blockquote>How can the John Birch Society be an effective political instrument while it is led by a man whose views on current affairs are, at so many critical points . . . so far removed from common sense? That dilemma weighs on conservatives across America. . . . The underlying problem is whether conservatives can continue to acquiesce quietly in a rendition of the causes of the decline of the Republic and the entire Western world which is false, and, besides that, crucially different in practical emphasis from their own. - <a href=http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/goldwater--the-john-birch-society--and-me-11248>William F. Buckley Jr.</a></blockquote>

Substitute "the GOP", or "the current conservative movement" for "the John Birch Society", and you have an adequate description of the current state of affairs for American conservatism. So, stop being afraid, and start thinking instead of simply reacting.

[namvet]

wOtGr1JFCnE

this why my gun is always loaded and ready

[gabosaurus]

Poor namvet. Such a bloody tapon.

[namvet]

*edit - image removed

looks like gabosaurus hasn't had her breakfast yet :laugh2::laugh2:

[stephanie]

that is gross...:puke:

[bullypulpit]

wOtGr1JFCnE

this why my gun is always loaded and ready

I see you've already abandoned any attempt at rational thought. Meh.

[stephanie]

I don't want the little Marxist anywhere near my children...not when you see the kinds of people he has hung around with all his life and the commies and radicals he has in his administration..

Keep your hands off our kids..

[namvet]

I see you've already abandoned any attempt at rational thought. Meh.

they knock your door down your on your own !!!!!!!!!!

[bullypulpit]

It's truly amazing. Y'all live in a perpetual state of irrational, unfounded fear that it's a wonder you can bring yourselves to get out of bed each day.

<blockquote>
* Main Entry: <b>Marx·ism</b>
* Pronunciation: <b>\ˈmärk-ˌsi-zəm\</b>
* Function: <b>noun</b>
* Date: <b>1887</b>

: the political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx; especially : a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society</blockquote>

By that definition, Obama is no more of a Marxist than I am a Zoroastrian, Stephie. In the future, please be aware of the definitions of the words you use. It'll save you from looking more of the fool than you already do.

And NamVet...Just remember, that it's FOX Noise you're getting your information from...

<center><IMG src=http://home.comcast.net/~wizardofwhimsy/btshtcrzyfoxnews.jpg></center>

[bullypulpit]

And then there's this from <a href=http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/>RudePundit</a>

<blockquote>...in 1989, President Bush spoke to students with the blatantly political goal of getting his harsh new drug laws passed in order to demonstrate, again, how tough he was. And the outrage from the left? Well, some of the kids thought the whole thing was worthless and/or bullshit. Some liked it. Otherwise, not a damn peep from anyone, not even on the good liberal McNeil/Lehrer Newshour.

And why was there no outcry of indoctrination to conservative causes, no uproar about inflicting such unpleasant thoughts on the precious children, no kerfuffle over whether or not the students were forced to watch it? Because there wasn't. Because he was the President. And if the President of the United States wants to make some little statement to students, then he gets to fucking do it. And, really, unless he's got spinning hyno-eyes telling them to kill their hippie grandparents, who the fuck cares? There was more important shit to do then, like debating whether or not there should be a flag-burning amendment. (God, the 80s sucked.)</blockquote>

Hmmm...the outrage from the right is just a wee bit hypocritical...? Not to mention shrill, hysterical, crazed and outright douche-baggery. Gawd, from the reaction of the right wing-nuts, you'sd think they were strapping the kids into their chairs and propping their eyes open like they did to Malcolm McDowell in "<i>The Clockwork Orange</i>". Damn..get a grip on something besides yer privates.

[red states rule]

And then there's this from <a href=http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/>RudePundit</a>

<blockquote>...in 1989, President Bush spoke to students with the blatantly political goal of getting his harsh new drug laws passed in order to demonstrate, again, how tough he was. And the outrage from the left? Well, some of the kids thought the whole thing was worthless and/or bullshit. Some liked it. Otherwise, not a damn peep from anyone, not even on the good liberal McNeil/Lehrer Newshour.

And why was there no outcry of indoctrination to conservative causes, no uproar about inflicting such unpleasant thoughts on the precious children, no kerfuffle over whether or not the students were forced to watch it? Because there wasn't. Because he was the President. And if the President of the United States wants to make some little statement to students, then he gets to fucking do it. And, really, unless he's got spinning hyno-eyes telling them to kill their hippie grandparents, who the fuck cares? There was more important shit to do then, like debating whether or not there should be a flag-burning amendment. (God, the 80s sucked.)</blockquote>

Hmmm...the outrage from the right is just a wee bit hypocritical...? Not to mention shrill, hysterical, crazed and outright douche-baggery. Gawd, from the reaction of the right wing-nuts, you'sd think they were strapping the kids into their chairs and propping their eyes open like they did to Malcolm McDowell in "<i>The Clockwork Orange</i>". Damn..get a grip on something besides yer privates.


Then why the lesson plan put out by the Dept of Education BP?

Why the video where Hollywood lefties end up telling kids to pledge to be a "servent to Obama"?

Looks to me like another plan to suck kids into the world of liberalism, and if parents object - you attack them

[namvet]

And then there's this from <a href=http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/>RudePundit</a>

<blockquote>...in 1989, President Bush spoke to students with the blatantly political goal of getting his harsh new drug laws passed in order to demonstrate, again, how tough he was. And the outrage from the left? Well, some of the kids thought the whole thing was worthless and/or bullshit. Some liked it. Otherwise, not a damn peep from anyone, not even on the good liberal McNeil/Lehrer Newshour.

And why was there no outcry of indoctrination to conservative causes, no uproar about inflicting such unpleasant thoughts on the precious children, no kerfuffle over whether or not the students were forced to watch it? Because there wasn't. Because he was the President. And if the President of the United States wants to make some little statement to students, then he gets to fucking do it. And, really, unless he's got spinning hyno-eyes telling them to kill their hippie grandparents, who the fuck cares? There was more important shit to do then, like debating whether or not there should be a flag-burning amendment. (God, the 80s sucked.)</blockquote>

Hmmm...the outrage from the right is just a wee bit hypocritical...? Not to mention shrill, hysterical, crazed and outright douche-baggery. Gawd, from the reaction of the right wing-nuts, you'sd think they were strapping the kids into their chairs and propping their eyes open like they did to Malcolm McDowell in "<i>The Clockwork Orange</i>". Damn..get a grip on something besides yer privates.

from the looks of this seems to me you suffer from sleep deprivation. there are some good meds out there for you.

[MtnBiker]

Poor namvet. Such a bloody tapon.



looks like gabosaurus hasn't had her breakfast yet :laugh2::laugh2:

You two can disagree all you want, but the rest of the board doesn't need to be subjected to bloody tampon talk.

[crin63]

My 70 year old friend who grew up in China is just all up in arms about this. He said that Obama has a messianic complex and acts like Mao Zedong. He was yelling at people to keep their kids home on Tuesday and not to listen this communist dictator trying to indoctrinate them.

[bullypulpit]

Then why the lesson plan put out by the Dept of Education BP?

Why the video where Hollywood lefties end up telling kids to pledge to be a "servent to Obama"?

Looks to me like another plan to suck kids into the world of liberalism, and if parents object - you attack them

A lesson plan for what...? telling kids to stay inschool and study?

We ALL know that Hollywood is full of people who can barely function.

I'm objecting to mindlessly irrational reactions which are completely disproportionate to the issue at hand.

[bullypulpit]

from the looks of this seems to me you suffer from sleep deprivation. there are some good meds out there for you.

NOt at all. I'd just finished my morning workout before going to work. You are simply deprived of good sense.

[namvet]

NOt at all. I'd just finished my morning workout before going to work. You are simply deprived of good sense.

http://home.comcast.net/~wizardofwhimsy/btshtcrzyfoxnews.jpg


NOt at all. I'd just finished my morning workout before going to work

at the institution. got it

[Trinity]

A lesson plan for what...? telling kids to stay inschool and study?



Just out of curiosity, when did it become the president's job to tell school children to stay in school and study??

Last time I checked that was my job considering I am the parent, I am the one that gave birth, and I am the one footing their bills.

[Joyful HoneyBee]

I was relieved to speak to the principal at my daughter's school the other day and learn that they have no intention of airing the speech for the student body. I told him that I still intend to send her with a note in hand saying that I forbid her participation in watching it, so if that one particular teacher decides it is pertinent to her lesson plan for the day, my daughter still won't have to be exposed.

Here's why:

There was no initial contact with any Board of Education to determine how this would impact the ability of the schools to meet their curriculum requirements if an hour of the day, plus whatever else, is taken out of the standard lesson plan(s).
The White House circumvented the system by contacting the principals personally, showing a haughty 'high and mighty' self perception.
There is the obvious misconception that our executive branch has the right to infringe on the time of American citizens based on a whim.


I was brought up the believe that the government works for the people, not the other way around. To the White House, I say this....before you start talking to my kids, please ask my permission first. :salute:

[theHawk]

It's truly amazing. Y'all live in a perpetual state of irrational, unfounded fear that it's a wonder you can bring yourselves to get out of bed each day.

<blockquote>
* Main Entry: <b>Marx·ism</b>
* Pronunciation: <b>\ˈmärk-ˌsi-zəm\</b>
* Function: <b>noun</b>
* Date: <b>1887</b>

: the political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx; especially : a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society</blockquote>

By that definition, Obama is no more of a Marxist than I am a Zoroastrian, Stephie. In the future, please be aware of the definitions of the words you use. It'll save you from looking more of the fool than you already do.





Perhaps you're right.

Obama and his lemmings are much more closer to fascism:


"A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton, "The Anatomy of Fascism," 2004]

[emmett]

I was relieved to speak to the principal at my daughter's school the other day and learn that they have no intention of airing the speech for the student body. I told him that I still intend to send her with a note in hand saying that I forbid her participation in watching it, so if that one particular teacher decides it is pertinent to her lesson plan for the day, my daughter still won't have to be exposed.

Here's why:

There was no initial contact with any Board of Education to determine how this would impact the ability of the schools to meet their curriculum requirements if an hour of the day, plus whatever else, is taken out of the standard lesson plan(s).
The White House circumvented the system by contacting the principals personally, showing a haughty 'high and mighty' self perception.
There is the obvious misconception that our executive branch has the right to infringe on the time of American citizens based on a whim.


I was brought up the believe that the government works for the people, not the other way around. To the White House, I say this....before you start talking to my kids, please ask my permission first. :salute:


You didn't vote for Obama did you! :laugh2:

[red states rule]

A lesson plan for what...? telling kids to stay inschool and study?

We ALL know that Hollywood is full of people who can barely function.

I'm objecting to mindlessly irrational reactions which are completely disproportionate to the issue at hand.

What study plan? My BP you always seem to know everything about Republicnas, Pres Bush, and VP Cheney - but nothing about your side

Here is what the Education Dept "corrected"

WH, Dept of Education Revise Language on Students Outlining How they Can “Help the President"

In an acknowledgment that the Department of Education provided lesson plans written somewhat inartfully, surrounding the President Obama’s speech to students next Tuesday, the White House today announced that it had rewritten one of the sections in question.

President Obama will talk to students from Pre K thru 12th grade about personal responsibility and the importance of staying in school, White House aides said.

As one of the preparatory materials for teachers provided by the Department of Education, students had been asked to, "Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. “

Today, after Republicans accused the White House of trying to indoctrinate school children with liberal propaganda the White House and the Department of Education changed the section to now read, "Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short‐term and long‐term education goals.”

“We changed it to clarify the language so the intent is clear,” said White House Spokesman Tommy Vietor.

The idea, Vietor said, was that students should think of how they could help the President in terms of reducing the national dropout rate.

Yesterday, the Florida Republican Party sent out a press release portraying the address as more of a policy speech rather than a specific educational address to children. The White House says that’s not true and there is no evidence that the President intend to discuss any policies.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/obamas-back-to-school-message----scribbled-with-some-controversy.html

The video about being a servent to Obama was shown to school kids - and parents were understandably outraged

I am objecting to the left training our kids to bow to Obama and do as he says

[namvet]

Osama still smokes to. some role model

[theHawk]

Osama still smokes to. some role model

Shhhh!! You're not supposed to talk about that, along with "the ears".


:laugh2:

[crin63]

I thought Libs wanted separation of church and state, yet they are having their messiah present his message to America's children.

[red states rule]

I thought Libs wanted separation of church and state, yet they are having their messiah present his message to America's children.

Obama, and the left, have no problem using children, parents, teachers, when he thinks it is to his advantage to do so.

But when he has other, more pressing things to do, like throwing a "beer summit", he will have no problem throwing kids, parents, and teachers under the bus

[red states rule]

THE CHILDREN AFTER OBAMA'S 'EDUCATION' SPEECH TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS


http://www.strangepolitics.com//images/content/155208.jpg

[stephanie]

good friggen gawd, he wants K-6 to listen to THIS..someone counted and said there are 50 some I's in the speech..

Prepared Remarks of President Barack Obama
Back to School Event
Arlington, Virginia
September 8, 2009

The President: Hello everyone – how’s everybody doing today? I’m here with students at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. And we’ve got students tuning in from all across America, kindergarten through twelfth grade. I’m glad you all could join us today.

I know that for many of you, today is the first day of school. And for those of you in kindergarten, or starting middle or high school, it’s your first day in a new school, so it’s understandable if you’re a little nervous. I imagine there are some seniors out there who are feeling pretty good right now, with just one more year to go. And no matter what grade you’re in, some of you are probably wishing it were still summer, and you could’ve stayed in bed just a little longer this morning.

I know that feeling. When I was young, my family lived in Indonesia for a few years, and my mother didn’t have the money to send me where all the American kids went to school. So she decided to teach me extra lessons herself, Monday through Friday – at 4:30 in the morning.

Now I wasn’t too happy about getting up that early. A lot of times, I’d fall asleep right there at the kitchen table. But whenever I’d complain, my mother would just give me one of those looks and say, “This is no picnic for me either, buster.”

So I know some of you are still adjusting to being back at school. But I’m here today because I have something important to discuss with you. I’m here because I want to talk with you about your education and what’s expected of all of you in this new school year.

Now I’ve given a lot of speeches about education. And I’ve talked a lot about responsibility. I’ve talked about your teachers’ responsibility for inspiring you, and pushing you to learn. I’ve talked about your parents’ responsibility for making sure you stay on track, and get your homework done, and don’t spend every waking hour in front of the TV or with that Xbox.

I’ve talked a lot about your government’s responsibility for setting high standards, supporting teachers and principals, and turning around schools that aren’t working where students aren’t getting the opportunities they deserve. But at the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world – and none of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibilities. Unless you show up to those schools; pay attention to those teachers; listen to your parents, grandparents and other adults; and put in the hard work it takes to succeed.

And that’s what I want to focus on today: the responsibility each of you has for your education. I want to start with the responsibility you have to yourself.

Every single one of you has something you’re good at. Every single one of you has something to offer. And you have a responsibility to yourself to discover what that is. That’s the opportunity an education can provide. Maybe you could be a good writer – maybe even good enough to write a book or articles in a newspaper – but you might not know it until you write a paper for your English class. Maybe you could be an innovator or an inventor – maybe even good enough to come up with the next iPhone or a new medicine or vaccine – but you might not know it until you do a project for your science class. Maybe you could be a mayor or a Senator or a Supreme Court Justice, but you might not know that until you join student government or the debate team.

And no matter what you want to do with your life – I guarantee that you’ll need an education to do it. You want to be a doctor, or a teacher, or a police officer? You want to be a nurse or an architect, a lawyer or a member of our military? You’re going to need a good education for every single one of those careers. You can’t drop out of school and just drop into a good job. You’ve got to work for it and train for it and learn for it.

And this isn’t just important for your own life and your own future. What you make of your education will decide nothing less than the future of this country. What you’re learning in school today will determine whether we as a nation can meet our greatest challenges in the future.

You’ll need the knowledge and problem-solving skills you learn in science and math to cure diseases like cancer and AIDS, and to develop new energy technologies and protect our environment. You’ll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free. You’ll need the creativity and ingenuity you develop in all your classes to build new companies that will create new jobs and boost our economy.

We need every single one of you to develop your talents, skills and intellect so you can help solve our most difficult problems. If you don’t do that – if you quit on school – you’re not just quitting on yourself, you’re quitting on your country.

Now I know it’s not always easy to do well in school. I know a lot of you have challenges in your lives right now that can make it hard to focus on your schoolwork.

I get it. I know what that’s like. My father left my family when I was two years old, and I was raised by a single mother who struggled at times to pay the bills and wasn’t always able to give us things the other kids had. There were times when I missed having a father in my life. There were times when I was lonely and felt like I didn’t fit in. So I wasn’t always as focused as I should have been. I did some things I’m not proud of, and got in more trouble than I should have. And my life could have easily taken a turn for the worse.

But I was fortunate. I got a lot of second chances and had the opportunity to go to college, and law school, and follow my dreams. My wife, our First Lady Michelle Obama, has a similar story. Neither of her parents had gone to college, and they didn’t have much. But they worked hard, and she worked hard, so that she could go to the best schools in this country. Some of you might not have those advantages. Maybe you don’t have adults in your life who give you the support that you need. Maybe someone in your family has lost their job, and there’s not enough money to go around. Maybe you live in a neighborhood where you don’t feel safe, or have friends who are pressuring you to do things you know aren’t right.

But at the end of the day, the circumstances of your life – what you look like, where you come from, how much money you have, what you’ve got going on at home – that’s no excuse for neglecting your homework or having a bad attitude. That’s no excuse for talking back to your teacher, or cutting class, or dropping out of school. That’s no excuse for not trying. Where you are right now doesn’t have to determine where you’ll end up. No one’s written your destiny for you. Here in America, you write your own destiny. You make your own future.

That’s what young people like you are doing every day, all across America.

Young people like Jazmin Perez, from Roma, Texas. Jazmin didn’t speak English when she first started school. Hardly anyone in her hometown went to college, and neither of her parents had gone either. But she worked hard, earned good grades, got a scholarship to Brown University, and is now in graduate school, studying public health, on her way to being Dr. Jazmin Perez. I’m thinking about Andoni Schultz, from Los Altos, California, who’s fought brain cancer since he was three. He’s endured all sorts of treatments and surgeries, one of which affected his memory, so it took him much longer – hundreds of extra hours – to do his schoolwork. But he never fell behind, and he’s headed to college this fall.

And then there’s Shantell Steve, from my hometown of Chicago, Illinois. Even when bouncing from foster home to foster home in the toughest neighborhoods, she managed to get a job at a local health center; start a program to keep young people out of gangs; and she’s on track to graduate high school with honors and go on to college.

Jazmin, Andoni and Shantell aren’t any different from any of you. They faced challenges in their lives just like you do. But they refused to give up. They chose to take responsibility for their education and set goals for themselves. And I expect all of you to do the same.

That’s why today, I’m calling on each of you to set your own goals for your education – and to do everything you can to meet them. Your goal can be something as simple as doing all your homework, paying attention in class, or spending time each day reading a book. Maybe you’ll decide to get involved in an extracurricular activity, or volunteer in your community. Maybe you’ll decide to stand up for kids who are being teased or bullied because of who they are or how they look, because you believe, like I do, that all kids deserve a safe environment to study and learn. Maybe you’ll decide to take better care of yourself so you can be more ready to learn. And along those lines, I hope you’ll all wash your hands a lot, and stay home from school when you don’t feel well, so we can keep people from getting the flu this fall and winter.

Whatever you resolve to do, I want you to commit to it. I want you to really work at it.

I know that sometimes, you get the sense from TV that you can be rich and successful without any hard work — that your ticket to success is through rapping or basketball or being a reality TV star, when chances are, you’re not going to be any of those things.

But the truth is, being successful is hard. You won’t love every subject you study. You won’t click with every teacher. Not every homework assignment will seem completely relevant to your life right this minute. And you won’t necessarily succeed at everything the first time you try.

That’s OK. Some of the most successful people in the world are the ones who’ve had the most failures. JK Rowling’s first Harry Potter book was rejected twelve times before it was finally published. Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team, and he lost hundreds of games and missed thousands of shots during his career. But he once said, “I have failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.”

These people succeeded because they understand that you can’t let your failures define you – you have to let them teach you. You have to let them show you what to do differently next time. If you get in trouble, that doesn’t mean you’re a troublemaker, it means you need to try harder to behave. If you get a bad grade, that doesn’t mean you’re stupid, it just means you need to spend more time studying.

No one’s born being good at things, you become good at things through hard work. You’re not a varsity athlete the first time you play a new sport. You don’t hit every note the first time you sing a song. You’ve got to practice. It’s the same with your schoolwork. You might have to do a math problem a few times before you get it right, or read something a few times before you understand it, or do a few drafts of a paper before it’s good enough to hand in.

Don’t be afraid to ask questions. Don’t be afraid to ask for help when you need it. I do that every day. Asking for help isn’t a sign of weakness, it’s a sign of strength. It shows you have the courage to admit when you don’t know something, and to learn something new. So find an adult you trust – a parent, grandparent or teacher; a coach or counselor – and ask them to help you stay on track to meet your goals.

And even when you’re struggling, even when you’re discouraged, and you feel like other people have given up on you – don’t ever give up on yourself. Because when you give up on yourself, you give up on your country.

The story of America isn’t about people who quit when things got tough. It’s about people who kept going, who tried harder, who loved their country too much to do anything less than their best.

It’s the story of students who sat where you sit 250 years ago, and went on to wage a revolution and found this nation. Students who sat where you sit 75 years ago who overcame a Depression and won a world war; who fought for civil rights and put a man on the moon. Students who sat where you sit 20 years ago who founded Google, Twitter and Facebook and changed the way we communicate with each other.

So today, I want to ask you, what’s your contribution going to be? What problems are you going to solve? What discoveries will you make? What will a president who comes here in twenty or fifty or one hundred years say about what all of you did for this country?

Your families, your teachers, and I are doing everything we can to make sure you have the education you need to answer these questions. I’m working hard to fix up your classrooms and get you the books, equipment and computers you need to learn. But you’ve got to do your part too. So I expect you to get serious this year. I expect you to put your best effort into everything you do. I expect great things from each of you. So don’t let us down – don’t let your family or your country or yourself down. Make us all proud. I know you can do it.

Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.

[MtnBiker]

The story of America isn’t about people who quit when things got tough. It’s about people who kept going, who tried harder, who loved their country too much to do anything less than their best.


Well, unless you are Van Jones.

:lol:

[Jeff]

There was a article in the local paper that SC has made it mandatory for kids to listen to this, they must sign a paper to show they did, the wife called my kids school in GA and was asked if she would like them to hear his speech, she said hell no, and was told at least in the county I live in it is going to be optional, hell my 8 year old would tell all exactly what he is, lol,

[red states rule]

There was a article in the local paper that SC has made it mandatory for kids to listen to this, they must sign a paper to show they did, the wife called my kids school in GA and was asked if she would like them to hear his speech, she said hell no, and was told at least in the county I live in it is going to be optional, hell my 8 year old would tell all exactly what he is, lol,

Time for a nationwide Sick Out for the kids Jeff

[crin63]

I have a bumper sticker on my truck that says, "Sept. 8Th 2009, National keep your kid home day, You can keep your change!"

[Jeff]

Time for a nationwide Sick Out for the kids Jeff

Absolutely!!!!

My kids will listen to his shit when pigs fly

[red states rule]

Absolutely!!!!

My kids will listen to his shit when pigs fly

Keep them home, and have them study the US Constitution. That way they will be ready to offer a rebuttal if the teachers try to discuss what Obama said in his speech

[Jeff]

Keep them home, and have them study the US Constitution. That way they will be ready to offer a rebuttal if the teachers try to discuss what Obama said in his speech

I think they will go to school but refuse to go to the class room it is showing in( if GA does go that way) it should be made public we don't want this shit forced on our kids

[Trinity]

Absolutely!!!!

My kids will listen to his shit when pigs fly

ummm.......they are flying.......swine flu.......:coffee:

[Jeff]

ummm.......they are flying.......swine flu.......:coffee:

LOL, ok they will listen when Obama can walk on water, ooo thats right some think he can, LOL

Well lets just say it isn't going to happen

[red states rule]

LOL, ok they will listen when Obama can walk on water, ooo thats right some think he can, LOL

Well lets just say it isn't going to happen

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/2699161524_5030184673.jpg

[Jeff]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/2699161524_5030184673.jpg

Hey I see MM and gabby under there, LOL

[red states rule]

Hey I see MM and gabby under there, LOL

Lets not forget about Gabby, PB, and BP

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2699161750_7824e72cae.jpg

[actsnoblemartin]

Lets not forget about Gabby, PB, and BP

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2699161750_7824e72cae.jpg

that is one of the most entertaining pictures :coffee:

[stephanie]

ran across this at hotair..

Update II: I’ve run the speech through a word frequency counter and found the following results:
56 iterations of “I”
19 iterations of “school”
10 iterations of “education”
8 iterations of “responsibility”
7 iterations of “country”
5 iterations each of “parents”, “teachers”
3 iterations of “nation”


http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/07/obama-school-speech-released/comment-page-1/#comments

[SassyLady]

I see you've already abandoned any attempt at rational thought. Meh.

I'd like to be open to a rational thought process re this video.

Bully - Can you explain to me the rationale of this video?

[bullypulpit]

I'd like to be open to a rational thought process re this video.

Bully - Can you explain to me the rationale of this video?

Youth inspired to rise above their circumstances? The militaristic approach is a bit extreme, be it on the left or right, but to characterize it as anything sinister is irrational and baseless. :coffee:

[bullypulpit]

What study plan? My BP you always seem to know everything about Republicnas, Pres Bush, and VP Cheney - but nothing about your side

Here is what the Education Dept "corrected"

WH, Dept of Education Revise Language on Students Outlining How they Can “Help the President"

In an acknowledgment that the Department of Education provided lesson plans written somewhat inartfully, surrounding the President Obama’s speech to students next Tuesday, the White House today announced that it had rewritten one of the sections in question.

President Obama will talk to students from Pre K thru 12th grade about personal responsibility and the importance of staying in school, White House aides said.

As one of the preparatory materials for teachers provided by the Department of Education, students had been asked to, "Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. “

Today, after Republicans accused the White House of trying to indoctrinate school children with liberal propaganda the White House and the Department of Education changed the section to now read, "Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short‐term and long‐term education goals.”

“We changed it to clarify the language so the intent is clear,” said White House Spokesman Tommy Vietor.

The idea, Vietor said, was that students should think of how they could help the President in terms of reducing the national dropout rate.

Yesterday, the Florida Republican Party sent out a press release portraying the address as more of a policy speech rather than a specific educational address to children. The White House says that’s not true and there is no evidence that the President intend to discuss any policies.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/obamas-back-to-school-message----scribbled-with-some-controversy.html

The video about being a servent to Obama was shown to school kids - and parents were understandably outraged

I am objecting to the left training our kids to bow to Obama and do as he says

Unlike you, Red, I actually READ the study plan. There is no sinister subtext, unless you think teaching kids to think is somehow a threat to the nation. That's only a threat to the mindless ideology right wing-nuts, like yourself and your fellow travelers, continuously vomit forth like so much bile.

Here's a link to the plans...

<a href=http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf>Classroom Activities (Pre-K – 6)</a>

<a href=http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf>Classroom Activities (7 – 12)</a>

Of course, an educated and engaged electorate is the only thing truly frightening to extremists on the right...or the left.

[red states rule]

Unlike you, Red, I actually READ the study plan. There is no sinister subtext, unless you think teaching kids to think is somehow a threat to the nation. That's only a threat to the mindless ideology right wing-nuts, like yourself and your fellow travelers, continuously vomit forth like so much bile.

Here's a link to the plans...

<a href=http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf>Classroom Activities (Pre-K – 6)</a>

<a href=http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf>Classroom Activities (7 – 12)</a>

Of course, an educated and engaged electorate is the only thing truly frightening to extremists on the right...or the left.

First you asked "what study plan" now you say you read it

Did you read the first plan released - or the "revised" one the Education Dept put out after parents gave their feedback?

Really BP, you are making way to many rookie errors as of late

[bullypulpit]

First you asked "what study plan" now you say you read it

Did you read the first plan released - or the "revised" one the Education Dept put out after parents gave their feedback?

Really BP, you are making way to many rookie errors as of late

No, Red...with each post you write, you continue a long and unbroken string of errors.

[stephanie]

now even we parents are being called names by the lefties for opposing the little Marxist views and not wanting it IMPOSED on our kids....

If we don't want our child to listen to what this President or any President says, that is our choice.

Parents need to get more involved in their child's schools and monitor just what is being said and taught..it is not only right, it is their duty..

I gave my kid permission to take a nap during the little Marxist speech if he wish to do so...but he is in high school, if I had a child in K-6 I think I would of let them stay home today..especially seeing that long winded speech that was all about "Dear Leader" and HIS life....blaaa

[bullypulpit]

now even we parents are being called names by the lefties for opposing the little Marxist views and not wanting it IMPOSED on our kids....

If we don't want our child to listen to what this President or any President says, that is our choice.

Parents need to get more involved in their child's schools and monitor just what is being said and taught..it is not only right, it is their duty..

I gave my kid permission to take a nap during the little Marxist speech if he wish to do so...but he is in high school, if I had a child in K-6 I think I would of let them stay home today..especially seeing that long winded speech that was all about "Dear Leader" and HIS life....blaaa

Names like "irrational", "unreasoning" and hystrionic" ? If the shoe fits dearie...wear it.

[glockmail]

Names like "irrational", "unreasoning" and hystrionic" ? If the shoe fits dearie...wear it. I think Chimpy McPresident make a big mistake with this speech today. :poke:

[Mr. P]

Names like "irrational", "unreasoning" and hystrionic" ? If the shoe fits dearie...wear it.

I have some minor issues with the content but NONE that would cause me to call for an investigation as the Dimwits did with HW Bushs' speech in 91. Yer on thin ice BP.

[stephanie]

Names like "irrational", "unreasoning" and hystrionic" ? If the shoe fits dearie...wear it.

I'd have to say the only ones I see that is "irrational" and "unreasonable" right now is you and your fellow lefties cause your Dear Leader and his commie "visions" are heading right over a cliff and you all didn't get to IMPOSE them on us fast enough before the people got to see what things were REALLY about..just look at Dear Leaders poll numbers..

yea for the American people, they are not as stupid as you had hoped, dearie..:laugh2:

[SassyLady]

Youth inspired to rise above their circumstances? The militaristic approach is a bit extreme, be it on the left or right, but to characterize it as anything sinister is irrational and baseless. :coffee:

He alone, who owns the youth, gains the Future!
-- Adolf Hitler, speech at the Reichsparteitag, 1935