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Little-Acorn
08-20-2009, 03:52 PM
Even if Obama takes out the Public Option, gives up on reducing Medicare, and compromises on most of the rest, if he can just get a bill passed and signed that says the Fed Govt is responsible for SOME part of Health Care, Obama will have accomplished his primary goal.

And that primary goal is to extend Federal power into the field of paying for people's fundamental health. Once that's done, he can start passing "additional" laws.

For example, to start restricting drinking because if there's less drinking the Fed Govt will have to pay less to treat people with cirrosis and people in drunk-driving crashes.

And to regulate and restrict skydiving so the Fed Govt can save money on treating people whose canopies don't inflate right. And then restrict pickup games of tackle football. And then rugby. And then soccer.

And to regulate the amount of fat in foods so that the Fed Govt won't have to pay so much to treat obese people's heart disease.

And to lower speed limits across the country, so there will be fewer high-speed crashes and less money spent by the Fed Govt to treat victims of same.

Once the leftists can get the Federal Government responsible for even a small part of your Health Care, that opens up a huge new vista of things the Federal government can start to regulate. And they can pile up the new rules and restrictions endlessly - because it's up to them now, to save money on Health Care, so they'll be able to spread that money around and treat more people.

See how it works?

It doesn't matter how much of Obamacare gets chopped out of the present bills in Congress. If the leftists can pass just a small fraction of what they ultimately want, they can then start the process of expanding government's control of the rest.

For your own good, of course.

Gaffer
08-20-2009, 05:17 PM
Even if Obama takes out the Public Option, gives up on reducing Medicare, and compromises on most of the rest, if he can just get a bill passed and signed that says the Fed Govt is responsible for SOME part of Health Care, Obama will have accomplished his primary goal.

And that primary goal is to extend Federal power into the field of paying for people's fundamental health. Once that's done, he can start passing "additional" laws.

For example, to start restricting drinking because if there's less drinking the Fed Govt will have to pay less to treat people with cirrosis and people in drunk-driving crashes.

And to regulate and restrict skydiving so the Fed Govt can save money on treating people whose canopies don't inflate right. And then restrict pickup games of tackle football. And then rugby. And then soccer.

And to regulate the amount of fat in foods so that the Fed Govt won't have to pay so much to treat obese people's heart disease.

And to lower speed limits across the country, so there will be fewer high-speed crashes and less money spent by the Fed Govt to treat victims of same.

Once the leftists can get the Federal Government responsible for even a small part of your Health Care, that opens up a huge new vista of things the Federal government can start to regulate. And they can pile up the new rules and restrictions endlessly - because it's up to them now, to save money on Health Care, so they'll be able to spread that money around and treat more people.

See how it works?

It doesn't matter how much of Obamacare gets chopped out of the present bills in Congress. If the leftists can pass just a small fraction of what they ultimately want, they can then start the process of expanding government's control of the rest.

For your own good, of course.

Nice to see someone else gets it. All the tea parties and townhalls in the world are not going to change the overall plan of the liberals. They are intent on total control of everyone by the government (them).

Little-Acorn
08-21-2009, 10:38 AM
Nice to see someone else gets it. All the tea parties and townhalls in the world are not going to change the overall plan of the liberals. They are intent on total control of everyone by the government (them).

And socialized Health Care is the perfect vehicle to do it. Even if the Fed Govct gets only a small piece of it at first. If the Fed is put in charge of paying for even a little bit of Health Care, this will establish the precedent that it's the Fed Govt's job to help pay for Health Care (a flatly unconstitutional notion, but I digress).

And in their little piece of it, they will be obligated to save money, of course. And one way to save money on health care, is to prevent the diseases and injuries you might have to treat, before they happen. Bingo, you just gave the Fed Govt the authority to control and regulate nearly every acivity people might engage in, now or in the future.

All for the purpose of saving money, dontcha know. And if that argument fails, we'll do it for the children.

Gaffer
08-21-2009, 01:47 PM
I have to spread the rep around.

That's why a compromise is unacceptable. The whole thing has to fail. It's ike letting a roach lose in your kitchen.

namvet
08-21-2009, 05:39 PM
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