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Mr. P
07-15-2009, 07:58 AM
The pressure continues to mount of getting suspicious records about Obama and his country of origin. SNOPES confirms Occidental College did, indeed, release records that Obama had been admitted to that California college as Barry Sortero ( one of Obama's known 6 names) on a Fullbright Scolarship with his country as INDONESIA!!!! Finally, just maybe the mask will come off. TRUTH OR FICTION takes a neutral position.

Smoking Gun Found? So what will happen now? Wonder why the media has not reported on this?


AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College.

Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school.

more...http://noiri.blogspot.com/

Kathianne
07-15-2009, 08:02 AM
We might wish, alas:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/occidental.asp

Mr. P
07-15-2009, 08:20 AM
We might wish, alas:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/occidental.asp

Delete the thread please..I didn't have time to research it..damn.

Kathianne
07-15-2009, 08:30 AM
Delete the thread please..I didn't have time to research it..damn.

Not a problem. I wonder though, how many others got an email like this or saw it somewhere else?

Nukeman
07-20-2009, 06:42 AM
to put a new spin on this issue. I thought I would bring up a letter-to-the editor in one of our local papers. it brings forth a VERY valid question and something that should be able to be discoverd easily...




I read recently that Paul Hollrah (senior fellow at the Lincoln Heritage Institute) believes the issue of Obama's birthplace can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta and Karachi?

So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later? And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers.

It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.

Q. Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?

A. Yes, by his own admission.

Q. What passport did he travel under?

A. There are only three possibilities.

1) He traveled with a U.S. passport,

2) He traveled with a British passport, or

3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q. Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. passport in 1981?

A. No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981(THIS PART IS FALSE THEY WERE NOT ON A NO TRAVEL LIST) .
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on Aug. 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.

And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian stepfather in 1967.

Whatever the truth of the matter, we, the American people, need to know how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen sometime between 1981 and 2008.

Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

emmett
07-20-2009, 08:00 AM
I tend to throw a little less into this issue than most Libertarians I know and headcutter Republicans. This isn't going to work folks. I can't stand the guy either but it just isn't going to work.

Barry's dad was a Kenyan student. His mother is documaented as an American born legitimate citizen. Basically he falls under the qualifications of being a US citizen....

HOWEVER...............................

I also tend to think that the reason he refuses to release the information being requested maqy be for slightly different reasons than what might meet the eye. More of a PR thing I think. What I mean is when digging I think we are going to find that he applied for services, entitlements and other freebies which will prove to be unsavory on his record. He was / is an Indonesian citizen, we know that already. He was adopted by his step father, we know that. Does this alone disqualify him for service as President? Did he actually relinquish his American citizenship?

More important however are other issues. Money he recieved as a US Senator. Money his wife recieved. Privledged life seemed to have come pretty easy to this guy. Just his education history alone brings question to how a fellow who was running around doing dope and screwing off can recieve government money for education and so forth. He admits being a cokehead but yet we cannot locate a single soul who can attest to selling him the drug. Maybe he WAS the dealer?

I continue to be flabbered by how this guy could have rose to become the Opresident. It appears we have set a brand new low in a country where a man could not become a Supreme Court judge 20 years ago because he was hionest enough to admit he took a puff of a marijuana cigarette (Bjork). Now we can nominate a clearly racist female judge and it be considered politically incorrect to question her feelings in this regard. I would think it prudent to label her "racist" if as a 2nd district judge she clearly issues a one paragraph opinion stating that her court will not hear a case that so easily influenced the Supreme Court to say "racism" took place in the refusal to advance Rhode Island firefighters after they had fulfilled all requirements to be promoted.

What was Barry's opinion of the first qualified case of racism against whites in our history? Same as his other reactions to monumental daily occurances that are not popular with democrats. NOTHING!

So in retrospect to the subject of the thread. Barry is proving everyday he is not the President of every American. No one is denying him this opportunity, he is doing it to himself. He wishes to use majority to promote an agenda by fooling his constituancy into thinking he has an answer to the problems of the day. He has no intention of being the type of President who leads in a way conducive with history. He intends to be a dictator and promote a socialist agenda for his own gain using his own supporters as the tool by which he will accomplish this mission. Clear and simple.

To me this in itself is reason to see him as "unqualified". Heck with the birth certificate issue. If investigators haven't found it by now...it isn't going to surface. I don't see why a simple search of Vital Statistices in Hawaii can't produce this document. It may or may not be there, I just think it is infanted by his other antics and intentions.

gabosaurus
07-20-2009, 02:35 PM
The election is over. You lost.