Very brief poll- Yes or No

[Abbey Marie]

Based on debate in another thread, if you are Republican, would you rule out voting for Romney solely because he is Mormon?

Your vote will be visible.

Edited to add: I am asking for Republicans only to vote, because the debate was over whether the GOP would rule out Romney.

[glockmail]

Mormon, no. Muslim, yes.

[Abbey Marie]

Mormon, no. Muslim, yes.

Indeed. :salute:

[typomaniac]

I would rule him out only because he's (1) a complete fool and (2) backed by the Bush political machine. His religion has nothing to do with either of those factors.

And yes, believe it or not, I am a registered Republican. I think of myself as a Roosevelt Republican, not a bushbot.

[stephanie]

voted No..

I'm not big on Romney, but it's not because he's mormon..

[OCA]

I would rule him out only because he's (1) a complete fool and (2) backed by the Bush political machine. His religion has nothing to do with either of those factors.

And yes, believe it or not, I am a registered Republican. I think of myself as a Roosevelt Republican, not a bushbot.


Want to explain how he's a complete fool? From what I can tell you are a complete fool so interested in your description of a complete fool.

You are no Republican.

[Nuc]

Sorry I voted despite the fact that I'm not Republican. Didn't see your disclaimer.

All the presidential candidates this country has ever had are Christians. I don't see much difference between Mormons and other Christians, therefore it wouldn't affect my decision.

[typomaniac]

Want to explain how he's a complete fool? From what I can tell you are a complete fool so interested in your description of a complete fool.If you think I'm a complete fool why are you interested in my explanations? You make absolutely no sense.
You are no Republican.I am every bit as much a Republican as Christine Whitman (My Party Too, etc.) If that's a source of discomfort for you - good!

[avatar4321]

If you think I'm a complete fool why are you interested in my explanations? You make absolutely no sense.I am every bit as much a Republican as Christine Whitman (My Party Too, etc.) If that's a source of discomfort for you - good!

If you are Republican, then sadly the party is lowering its standards.

And of course I have no problem with Romney's religion. I'm probably one of his biggest supporters on the board. If you want to just dismiss him as a fool you can, I wouldn't though cause you're going to regret it.

[Trigg]

I haven't heard much about his politics, so I don't know whether I'd vote for him anyway. Him being mormon is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.

[OCA]

If you think I'm a complete fool why are you interested in my explanations? You make absolutely no sense.I am every bit as much a Republican as Christine Whitman (My Party Too, etc.) If that's a source of discomfort for you - good!

Just kind of interested on what an actual fool believes constitutes being a fool, thats all.

Christine Whitman....lol. Democrat lite.

[glockmail]

....Christine Whitman.......:hitit:

[LiberalNation]

No, I wont vote for him because he's a republican I don't agree with about anything on.

[Mr. P]

Based on debate in another thread, if you are Republican, would you rule out voting for Romney solely because he is Mormon?

....

No

[typomaniac]

If you are Republican, then sadly the party is lowering its standards.

And of course I have no problem with Romney's religion. I'm probably one of his biggest supporters on the board. If you want to just dismiss him as a fool you can, I wouldn't though cause you're going to regret it.Ever heard of Reagan's "big tent?" :finger3:

And they don't call Romney "Mitt-for-brains" for nothing. If you're really curious, I can start another thread to document his stupidity. That's always fun!

[OCA]

Ever heard of Reagan's "big tent?" :finger3:

And they don't call Romney "Mitt-for-brains" for nothing. If you're really curious, I can start another thread to document his stupidity. That's always fun!

Yeah Reagan also emptied out the mental institutions, i'm guessing thats what your "big tent" was LMFAO!

[avatar4321]

Ever heard of Reagan's "big tent?" :finger3:

And they don't call Romney "Mitt-for-brains" for nothing. If you're really curious, I can start another thread to document his stupidity. That's always fun!

You know, if you really need to be more creative man. You are the only person I've ever heard call Romney that and it's not really that creative at all.

[Nuc]

Since when do we disqualify candidates for being Morons?

[glockmail]

You know, if you really need to be more creative man. You are the only person I've ever heard call Romney that and it's not really that creative at all. But it is the Liberal template.

[avatar4321]

But it is the Liberal template.

Yeah, I was noticing that myself. It seems to me that it's very typical for liberals to call politicians they see as threats idiots.

Nevermind the decades of successful service and effective leadership that say otherwise.

Meanwhile their party members, such as Hillary, are proclaimed as intellectual giants. Personally I don't see it.

[GW in Ohio]

Ever heard of Reagan's "big tent?" :finger3:

And they don't call Romney "Mitt-for-brains" for nothing. If you're really curious, I can start another thread to document his stupidity. That's always fun!

typo: You have to realize who you're dealing with here.

These people have all kinds of litmus tests to determine if someone is "a real Republican." Their litmus tests run something like.....

Is he in favor of any abortion anywhere, under any circumstances? (If yes, he's not a real Republican.)

Is he in favor of gun owners having to register their Thompson submachine guns? (If yes, he's not a real Republican.)

Would he pull out of Iraq before the job is done, even if we have to stay there 20 years? (If yes, he's not a real Republican.)

Does he have a problem with prayer in schools? (If yes, he's not a real Republican.)

When these people find a Republican with a little pragmatism and common sense, like Christine Whitman or Rudy Giuliani, they label them RINOs (Republicans In Name Only).
:coffee:

If they had their way, only ideologically pure right-wing wackos would be allowed in the party (Aryan Nation....OK.........soft on abortion......not OK). They would lose every election, but they would have a certain smug, self-righteous satisfaction.

[Abbey Marie]

Thanks to all who voted.

It's unanimous- no Republicans here would exclude Romney just because he is Mormon. Perhaps we can put that particular 'misjudgment' to rest.

[Birdzeye]

Yeah, I was noticing that myself. It seems to me that it's very typical for liberals to call politicians they see as threats idiots.

Nevermind the decades of successful service and effective leadership that say otherwise.

Meanwhile their party members, such as Hillary, are proclaimed as intellectual giants. Personally I don't see it.

It cuts both ways. Conservatives do the same thing, only their favorite insult du jour seems to be "traitor." Meanwhile, THEIR heroes are proclaimed as brilliant, but that is only obvious to them.

[Mr. P]

Thanks to all who voted.

It's unanimous- no Republicans here would exclude Romney just because he is Mormon. Perhaps we can put that particular 'misjudgment' to rest.

I would hope so, on this board anyway. But.....false accusation seems to be part of the left wing mindset.

[Abbey Marie]

I would hope so, on this board anyway. But.....false accusation seems to be part of the left wing mindset.

And a lot of wishful thinking. :cheers2:

[typomaniac]

typo: You have to realize who you're dealing with here.

These people have all kinds of litmus tests to determine if someone is "a real Republican."Oh I realize it very well. And it's exactly that kind of attitude that's going to cost these people control of the GOP. (And what's going to pave the way for people like me to take over BuwAHAHAHA!!)

[Abbey Marie]

typo: You have to realize who you're dealing with here.

These people have all kinds of litmus tests to determine if someone is "a real Republican." Their litmus tests run something like.....

Is he in favor of any abortion anywhere, under any circumstances? (If yes, he's not a real Republican.)

Is he in favor of gun owners having to register their Thompson submachine guns? (If yes, he's not a real Republican.)

Would he pull out of Iraq before the job is done, even if we have to stay there 20 years? (If yes, he's not a real Republican.)

Does he have a problem with prayer in schools? (If yes, he's not a real Republican.)

When these people find a Republican with a little pragmatism and common sense, like Christine Whitman or Rudy Giuliani, they label them RINOs (Republicans In Name Only).
:coffee:

If they had their way, only ideologically pure right-wing wackos would be allowed in the party (Aryan Nation....OK.........soft on abortion......not OK). They would lose every election, but they would have a certain smug, self-righteous satisfaction.


You mean like how the Dems crucified Lieberman for not toeing the lefty line on the Iraq war?

[Gunny]

Based on debate in another thread, if you are Republican, would you rule out voting for Romney solely because he is Mormon?

Your vote will be visible.

Edited to add: I am asking for Republicans only to vote, because the debate was over whether the GOP would rule out Romney.

I think Romney will be ruled out, but not simply because he is a Mormon.

[Gunny]

You mean like how the Dems crucified Lieberman for not toeing the lefty line on the Iraq war?

While I agree with you it's pretty much the pot calling the kettle black, what GW posted is essentially true, and the reasn I think Romney won't be the candidate.

Problem is, at this point in time, no one candidate appeals across the board to Republicans, conservatives AND moderates. And that's what it takes to win not only the candidacy but the election as well, IMO.

[Abbey Marie]

While I agree with you it's pretty much the pot calling the kettle black, what GW posted is essentially true, and the reasn I think Romney won't be the candidate.

Problem is, at this point in time, no one candidate appeals across the board to Republicans, conservatives AND moderates. And that's what it takes to win not only the candidacy but the election as well, IMO.

Sure, now when everything is 1.5 years away and very theoretical, we all want exactly what we want. But when the election happens, the visualization of the Dem candidate (any one of them) actually sitting in the Oval Office, in favor of raising our taxes, appointing liberal judges, pushing socialist policies, and opening our borders even more, will tend to make those Republican differences fade. And that is the point in time that really matters.

[Gunny]

Sure, now when everything is 1.5 years away and very theoretical, we all want exactly what we want. But when the election happens, the visualization of the Dem candidate (any one of them) actually sitting in the Oval Office, in favor of raising our taxes, appointing liberal judges, pushing socialist policies, and opening our borders even more, will tend to make those Republican differences fade. And that is the point in time that really matters.

All I can say in response is Bob Dole, or 2006 elections. It didn't matter on those two occasions. I don't see that will a year and a half from now.

Petty differences like that have kept the Democrats fragmented for years. Looks like it's finally catching up to the Republicans. Too many uncompromising special interests and not enough core belief.

[Abbey Marie]

All I can say in response is Bob Dole, or 2006 elections. It didn't matter on those two occasions. I don't see that will a year and a half from now.

Petty differences like that have kept the Democrats fragmented for years. Looks like it's finally catching up to the Republicans. Too many uncompromising special interests and not enough core belief.

Speaking for myself, there is no single thing that would be more important to me than keeping someone like Hillary out of the WH. But we'll see, ey? :salute:

[glockmail]

All I can say in response is Bob Dole, or 2006 elections. It didn't matter on those two occasions. I don't see that will a year and a half from now.

Petty differences like that have kept the Democrats fragmented for years. Looks like it's finally catching up to the Republicans. Too many uncompromising special interests and not enough core belief. The difference then was that Dole ran against Billy Bob, who was moderate on the economic issues. There are no such apparitions about Hillary or Obama.

[Gunny]

The difference then was that Dole ran against Billy Bob, who was moderate on the economic issues. There are no such apparitions about Hillary or Obama.

Apparitions?

No such presumption of moderation existed with Pelosi or Reid prior to the last election either. So scratch that conclusion.

[glockmail]

Apparitions?

No such presumption of moderation existed with Pelosi or Reid prior to the last election either. So scratch that conclusion.


the act of becoming visible : APPEARANCE

Neither Pelosi nor Reid ran in a National election.

(See? We can be civil.)

[Gunny]

the act of becoming visible : APPEARANCE

Neither Pelosi nor Reid ran in a National election.

(See? We can be civil.)

Nope, but that fact that they would be the House and Senate leaders should the Republicans lose control was fairly-well spewed all over the media. The stakes were not unknown.

I even chastised a few for abstaining from voting and they bascically were more concerned with their dissatisfaction with Republicans than the consequences of turning over Congress to the Dems.

Which directly refutes your theory that Republicans will come together for a common good. Not if they're so wrapped up in their own self-righteousness they can't agree on what the common good is.

Those leadership position fell by default to two morons. The Presidency will go the same way if the GOP doesn't get it's shit together.

[glockmail]

Nope, but that fact that they would be the House and Senate leaders should the Republicans lose control was fairly-well spewed all over the media. The stakes were not unknown.

I even chastised a few for abstaining from voting and they bascically were more concerned with their dissatisfaction with Republicans than the consequences of turning over Congress to the Dems.

Which directly refutes your theory that Republicans will come together for a common good. Not if they're so wrapped up in their own self-righteousness they can't agree on what the common good is.

Those leadership position fell by default to two morons. The Presidency will go the same way if the GOP doesn't get it's shit together.

I can see your point, but the average schmo gets more energized about a national election. That's why there is typically a lower turnout in off years.

I am on record as saying that Hillary will be the next president, unless Ronald Reagan or John Wayne comes back to life, or Christ appears and endorses her opponent. Aside from the Obama side show I don't see how that is going to change. I am also on record that before that happens I will buy a lot of canned goods, gold, and ammo, and spend a lot of time in my mountain cabin planting vegetables.

[Gaffer]

I can see your point, but the average schmo gets more energized about a national election. That's why there is typically a lower turnout in off years.

I am on record as saying that Hillary will be the next president, unless Ronald Reagan or John Wayne comes back to life, or Christ appears and endorses her opponent. Aside from the Obama side show I don't see how that is going to change. I am also on record that before that happens I will buy a lot of canned goods, gold, and ammo, and spend a lot of time in my mountain cabin planting vegetables.

I agree, if hellery gets elected its best to be prepared for a siege.

[Abbey Marie]

It will be an embarassment for all women if our first female President is a Commie.

[typomaniac]

Speaking for myself, there is no single thing that would be more important to me than keeping someone like Hillary out of the WH. But we'll see, ey? :salute:I am no Hillary fan, but if it came down to her and Mitt-for-brains, I'd hold my nose and vote for Hillary. :(

[Nuc]

It will be an embarassment for all women if our first female President is a Commie.

What happens then if Chelsea follows the slogan, "Kill a Commie for Mommy"?

Matricide in the White House!:pee: :salute:

[glockmail]

I am no Hillary fan, but if it came down to her and Mitt-for-brains, I'd hold my nose and vote for Hillary. :( Big surprise there, Lib. :rolleyes:

[avatar4321]

I am no Hillary fan, but if it came down to her and Mitt-for-brains, I'd hold my nose and vote for Hillary. :(

Wow, you'd side with Hillary... big surprise...

[Gunny]

I am no Hillary fan, but if it came down to her and Mitt-for-brains, I'd hold my nose and vote for Hillary. :(

I have more self-respect and personal integrity than that.

[GW in Ohio]

It will be an embarassment for all women if our first female President is a Commie.



:lol: :laugh2: :dance: :laugh2: :lol:

Do you actually think Hillary is a communist?

:lol: :laugh2: :dance: :laugh2: :lol:

[Gunny]

:lol: :laugh2: :dance: :laugh2: :lol:

Do you actually think Hillary is a communist?

:lol: :laugh2: :dance: :laugh2: :lol:

She's an extremist with an extremist agenda. She proved that when she was pseudo-President during the 90s. Not to mention a conspiracy twit.

Bill made it in the 90s by selling himself as moderate, and in that at least, he did a good job.

Hillary tries but just can't help herself. That "vast right wing conspiracy" crap HAS to come out. It probably took three people to hold her down after the Southpark episode a couple of weeks ago.

[GW in Ohio]

She's an extremist with an extremist agenda. She proved that when she was pseudo-President during the 90s. Not to mention a conspiracy twit.

Bill made it in the 90s by selling himself as moderate, and in that at least, he did a good job.

Hillary tries but just can't help herself. That "vast right wing conspiracy" crap HAS to come out. It probably took three people to hold her down after the Southpark episode a couple of weeks ago.

Gunny: Your image of Hillary as a flaming leftist is frozen in time. Ever since she entered the Senate 7 years ago, she has behaved totally as a centrist. On some issues, she's to the right of center.

I realize it's more fun for Rush Limbaugh and his mindless dittoheads to cling to the image of Hillary as a raving leftist, but that image is ludicrously out of date.

And if you try to respond with something like, "the leopard doesn't change its spots," you only identify yourself as even more hopelessly out of touch. Politicians do change and evolve; they do it all the time.

I know there are a lot of brain-dead right-wingers out there, Gunny. Don't be one of them.

[Gunny]

Gunny: Your image of Hillary as a flaming leftist is frozen in time. Ever since she entered the Senate 7 years ago, she has behaved totally as a centrist. On some issues, she's to the right of center.

I realize it's more fun for Rush Limbaugh and his mindless dittoheads to cling to the image of Hillary as a raving leftist, but that image is ludicrously out of date.

And if you try to respond with something like, "the leopard doesn't change its spots," you only identify yourself as even more hopelessly out of touch. Politicians do change and evolve; they do it all the time.

I know there are a lot of brain-dead right-wingers out there, Gunny. Don't be one of them.

My opinion of Hillary has nothing to do with Rush, nor being brain-dead. You can't really remove "leopards don't change their spots" from the equation if it fits, and that has more to do with being in touch with reality than out.

Her 7 years in the Senate have been used for the express purpose of political makeover. It does not negate the 8 years she spent chasing causes during Bill's administration, nor does it negate the fact she was a shyster lawyer with questionable ethics.

Where has she come down in all this Emergency Funding Bill broohaha? How about the latest round of taxing us to death?

I don't trust her, and never will. She built her own record, I didn't.

[Abbey Marie]

My opinion of Hillary has nothing to do with Rush, nor being brain-dead. You can't really remove "leopards don't change their spots" from the equation if it fits, and that has more to do with being in touch with reality than out.

Her 7 years in the Senate have been used for the express purpose of political makeover. It does not negate the 8 years she spent chasing causes during Bill's administration, nor does it negate the fact she was a shyster lawyer with questionable ethics.

Where has she come down in all this Emergency Funding Bill broohaha? How about the latest round of taxing us to death?

I don't trust her, and never will. She built her own record, I didn't.

Let's not forget National Health Care- her cause celeb.

[Gunny]

Let's not forget National Health Care- her cause celeb.


Yeah, and we SEE how well she did on that with 8 years being married to the President behind her.

[Abbey Marie]

Yeah, and we SEE how well she did on that with 8 years being married to the President behind her.

You know what concerns me the most about her? There are several books from people who have been up close and personal with Hillary, and they all state that besides regularly being a screaming, angry witch, she despises anything military, quasi-military, or law enforcement related. Can you imagine someone with that mind-set in the Oval Officie?

[Gunny]

You know what concerns me the most about her? There are several books from people who have been up close and personal with Hillary, and they all state that besides regularly being a screaming, angry witch, she despises anything military, quasi-military, or law enforcement related. Can you imagine someone with that mind-set in the Oval Officie?

Yes. I served under one for a year, and the other for 8 years. Democrats hate the military because the majority of the military despise Democrats.

[Pale Rider]

Based on debate in another thread, if you are Republican, would you rule out voting for Romney solely because he is Mormon?

Your vote will be visible.

Edited to add: I am asking for Republicans only to vote, because the debate was over whether the GOP would rule out Romney.

If Romney ends up the republican presidential pick, I'll have no problem voting for him.

But as glockmail said, "mormon no, muslim yes", to answer the poll question.