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Kathianne
06-21-2009, 06:44 PM
Obama really shows his disregard for the American people, it's all about him:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090621/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul


Obama's own party worried health plan lacks votes

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer
1 hr 45 mins ago

WASHINGTON – A Republican senator seeking a bipartisan health deal spoke Sunday of "dialing down" expectations while one of President Barack Obama's Democratic allies questioned whether the White House had the votes necessary for a such a costly and comprehensive plan during a recession.

Obama's proposal to provide health insurance for some 50 million Americans who lack it has become a contentious point for a Democratic-controlled House and Senate struggling to reach a consensus Obama desperately wants.
Much of the concern came after the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that the plan would cost $1 trillion over 10 years but cover only about one-third of those now lacking health insurance.

Democrats protested that the estimate overlooked important money-savers to be added later. But Republicans seized on the costly projection and the bill's half-finished nature, throwing Democratic leaders on the defensive.
Sen. Chuck Grassley, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, said officials would have to rethink their best-case scenario for providing a sweeping overhaul of the health care system at a relatively low price.

"So we're in the position of dialing down some of our expectations to get the costs down so that it's affordable and, most importantly, so that it's paid for because we can't go to the point where we are now of not paying for something when we have trillions of dollars of debt," said Grassley, R-Iowa.
"And we anticipate paying for it through some savings and Medicare, and from some increases in revenue," he said.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said she wasn't certain there are enough votes in the president's own party to support the proposal.
"I think there's a lot of concern in the Democratic caucus," she said....

chesswarsnow
06-21-2009, 07:35 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. Well many thought FDR's Social Security Plan was a bad idea.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Kathianne
06-21-2009, 08:32 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. Well many thought FDR's Social Security Plan was a bad idea.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

It was.

emmett
06-21-2009, 08:42 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. Well many thought FDR's Social Security Plan was a bad idea.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


And you think it was a good idea?

Sorry about that, It wasn't

chesswarsnow
06-21-2009, 08:50 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. I think it was a brilliant idea.
2. Me dear old Mom, has an income thanks to it, shes 82 now.
3. She didn't have the the chance to stock away cash for her old age.
4. Seeing she raised 5 children all by herself.
5. With no help from the government I might add.
6. She worked a long time and paid into it, worked double hard compared to most folks, I feel she earned it.
7. Oh and did I mention she turned down *Mensa*?
8. She had her IQ tested, by *Mensa* and they wanted her to join.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Kathianne
06-21-2009, 09:09 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. I think it was a brilliant idea.
2. Me dear old Mom, has an income thanks to it, shes 82 now.
3. She didn't have the the chance to stock away cash for her old age.
4. Seeing she raised 5 children all by herself.
5. With no help from the government I might add.
6. She worked a long time and paid into it, worked double hard compared to most folks, I feel she earned it.
7. Oh and did I mention she turned down *Mensa*?
8. She had her IQ tested, by *Mensa* and they wanted her to join.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Let's just say that SirJamesofTexas is a liberal gimme person.

chesswarsnow
06-21-2009, 09:12 PM
Sorry bout that,

Kat wrote:

"Let's just say that SirJamesofTexas is a liberal gimme person. "


1. But how could that be Kat.
2. I have never recieved anything.
3. I too have worked hard all my life.
4. But if thats what you do, put labels on others.
5. Lets roll with it.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

chesswarsnow
06-21-2009, 09:14 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But did dear old Mom not earn her retirement income?
2. Careful how you answer that.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Mr. P
06-21-2009, 10:18 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But did dear old Mom not earn her retirement income?
2. Careful how you answer that.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

How much did mom pay in?
How much did she receive?

That's the problem with SS.

chesswarsnow
06-21-2009, 10:24 PM
Sorry bout that,


How much did mom pay in?
How much did she receive?

That's the problem with SS.


1. I don't have that information.
2. Did she even deserve to get it?
3. Is she taking payments she isn't supposed to get?
4. Do you get SS payments, and do you deserve getting them, if so?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Mr. P
06-21-2009, 10:38 PM
Sorry bout that,




1. I don't have that information.
2. Did she even deserve to get it?
3. Is she taking payments she isn't supposed to get?
4. Do you get SS payments, and do you deserve getting them, if so?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

I don't receive ss..when I do I'll be happy to get back what I've paid in. SS is a farce...If I draw all my money out in 4 yrs then someone else is paying me every month after that AS long as I live..that ain't right.

chesswarsnow
06-21-2009, 10:44 PM
Sorry bout that,




I don't receive ss..when I do I'll be happy to get back what I've paid in. SS is a farce...If I draw all my money out in 4 yrs then someone else is paying me every month after that AS long as I live..that ain't right.



1. But what makes you think you will draw everything you've paid in in four years?
2. If true, and its against your moral fabric, why not refuse to take it?
3. And work till your last breath, then?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Mr. P
06-21-2009, 10:52 PM
Sorry bout that,







1. But what makes you think you will draw everything you've paid in in four years?
2. If true, and its against your moral fabric, why not refuse to take it?
3. And work till your last breath, then?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Ya know that info you didn't have?
I know what I've paid in.
I like everyone else get a statement every yr.
Based on what they'd pay me per month it'll be gone pretty fast.
I'll take that cuz it's my money..
After that and during that, yeah I'll work.

chesswarsnow
06-22-2009, 08:40 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. But once you start getting your SS payments, at some point you will have been paid back, if you live long enough.
2. There isn't a real assurance, you will ever see a check too.
3. But lets say you do, and when you have received what you paid in, you can request the checks to stop coming, but they won't stop sending them.
4. You can stop cashing them, but the Federal Govenment will keep sending them.
5. I think you should continue to cash them.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Insein
06-22-2009, 09:00 AM
Not on the topic, but what are you sorry about?