Gunman shoots, kills, guard at Holocaust Museum

[LiberalNation]

another white christian terrorist attack.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_holocaust_museum_shooting

WASHINGTON – An elderly gunman, said by authorities to have a violent and virulently anti-Semitic past, stepped inside a crowded U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum on Wednesday, opened fire with a rifle and fatally wounded a security guard before being shot by other officers.

The assailant was hospitalized in critical condition, leaving behind a sprawling investigation by federal and local law enforcement and expressions of shock from the Israeli government and a prominent Muslim organization.

D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said the gunman was "engaged by security guards immediately after entering the door" with a rifle. "The second he stepped into the building he began firing."

Law enforcement officials said James Von Brunn, 88, a white supremacist, was under investigation in the shooting, and a second official said the elderly man's car was found near the museum and tested for explosives. They spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss the investigation just beginning.

Museum officials identified the dead guard as Stephen T. Johns, a six-year veteran of the facility. In an e-mail, director Sara Bloomfield said he "died heroically in the line of duty."

Von Brunn has a racist, anti-Semitic Web site and wrote a book titled "Kill the Best Gentiles."

In 1983, he was convicted of attempting to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board and served more than six years in prison. He was arrested two years earlier outside the room where the board was meeting, carrying a revolver, knife and sawed-off shotgun. At the time, police said Von Brunn wanted to take the members hostage because of high interest rates and the nation's economic difficulties.

Writings attributed to Von Brunn on the Internet say the Holocaust was a hoax and decry a Jewish conspiracy to "destroy the white gene pool."

"At Auschwitz the 'Holocaust' myth became Reality, and Germany, cultural gem of the West, became a pariah among world nations," it says.

The museum, which opened in 1993 and has drawn nearly 30 million visitors, houses exhibits and records relating to the Holocaust of more than a half century ago in which more than six million Jews died at the hands of Nazis. Its Web site says the museum "teaches millions of people each year about the dangers of unchecked hatred and the need to prevent genocide."

The crowd at the museum on Wednesday included many school-age children on field trips.

[darin]

He wasn't a christian. You could write headlines for MSNBC

[LiberalNation]

read his websites, he believed he was a christian.

[Kathianne]

read his websites, he believed he was a christian.

Hitler claimed the same, but we all know it wasn't so.

[Mr. P]

read his websites, he believed he was a christian.

And you believe yer a lesbo...:poke:

[LiberalNation]

Hitler claimed the same, but we all know it wasn't so.

yet you seem to know so well the ME terrorists are true muslim.......

[Kathianne]

yet you seem to know so well the ME terrorists are true muslim.......

You say such, based upon what?

[darin]

I know a muslim guy whom I believe to be closer to God and Truth than anybody I've met. (shrug). He's muslim - sure...but he's not a terrorist.

You used 'Christian' in an attempt to bash. That's gay. Not the good kind of gay - the "wronger than a football bat" kind of gay.

[glockmail]

Is there a good kind of gay, dmp?

[avatar4321]

So basically a gunman who:

Hates both President Bushs
Hates NeoCons
Thinks 9/11 was an inside job
Hates Republicans

is a right wing nutjob because he is white and allegedly Christian.

Yeah, lets just ignore everything he actually stood for and use these deaths to politically assault the same people he was going after. Brilliant move!

[LiberalNation]

neo-nazis always hate the standing government, it's run by jews doncha know. That doesn't make them not right wing.

[Mr. P]

neo-nazis always hate the standing government, it's run by jews doncha know. That doesn't make them not right wing.

Actually it does, LN. Neo-nazis, the KKK, skinheads..any of the wacko groups don't attach themselves with the left or right...they're just out there in their own lil world.

[PostmodernProphet]

"destroy the white gene pool."

I don't think his actions were religiously motivated......

[PostmodernProphet]

neo-nazis always hate the standing government, it's run by jews doncha know. That doesn't make them not right wing.

what DOES make someone "right wing"..... being something other than "left wing"?......

[Psychoblues]

To intimate that Mr. Von Brunn is not a reichwinger and a registered conservative is just silliness. This board is nothing beyond a support group for that type of insanity and hatefulness. How many examples do you need to prove it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[Little-Acorn]

what DOES make someone "right wing"..... being something other than "left wing"?......

A right winger is someone who says something the leftist fanatics on this board don't like but can't refute.

Even by that standard, the murderer at the Holocaust Museum still doesn't qualify.

[Psychoblues]

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:



A right winger is someone who says something the leftist fanatics on this board don't like but can't refute.

Even by that standard, the murderer at the Holocaust Museum still doesn't qualify.

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[Mr. P]

To intimate that Mr. Von Brunn is not a reichwinger and a registered conservative is just silliness. This board is nothing beyond a support group for that type of insanity and hatefulness. How many examples do you need to prove it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

To suggest he's anything other than a nutcase, is dishonest and you know it.

[Psychoblues]

OK,,,,,,he is a reichwinger, a registered conservative and a nutcase!!!!!!!!!!!!



To suggest he's anything other than a nutcase, is dishonest and you know it.

Thanks for the backup, Mr. P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. P]

OK,,,,,,he is a reichwinger, a registered conservative and a nutcase!!!!!!!!!!!!




Thanks for the backup, Mr. P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I knew you'd go there..got a link to his right wingness..butt-head?

[Psychoblues]

It is well documented, pee.



I knew you'd go there..got a link to his right wingness..butt-head?

Get off your ass and check it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Psychoblues

[Mr. P]

It is well documented, pee.




Get off your ass and check it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Psychoblues

Documented in yer mind perhaps..otherwise ya gotta show me.

[Psychoblues]

It is also well documented that demonstration fails with you, pee. I cannot allow your weaknesses to overwhelm the truth in this issue!!!!!!!!!!!!



Documented in yer mind perhaps..otherwise ya gotta show me.

The jewmeister killer is your own, dumbo. Wiggle out of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Psychoblues

[Mr. P]

It is also well documented that demonstration fails with you, pee. I cannot allow your weaknesses to overwhelm the truth in this issue!!!!!!!!!!!!




The jewmeister killer is your own, dumbo. Wiggle out of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Psychoblues

Can't backup yer claim, huh? :laugh2:

[Psychoblues]

It is your claim that the perp is not as advertised, pee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Can't backup yer claim, huh? :laugh2:

Put up or shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I continue to believe that the perp is a product of right wing fearmongering and hatred. You got something to prove my feelings somehow in error?!?!??!?!!??!?!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[Nukeman]

It is your claim that the perp is not as advertised, pee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Put up or shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I continue to believe that the perp is a product of right wing fearmongering and hatred. You got something to prove my feelings somehow in error?!?!??!?!!??!?!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

PsychobluesActually Psycho, Oberman made the statement! Don't you think the board Libs should show PROOF of this assumption???? Or does Oberman get a pass because his ideals fall in line with yours???!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!

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[PostmodernProphet]

To intimate that Mr. Von Brunn is not a reichwinger and a registered conservative is just silliness.

where do we register?......

[glockmail]

Can anyone tell me what the "good kind of gay" is? *shrug*

[Mr. P]

Can anyone tell me what the "good kind of gay" is? *shrug*

What ya feel after smokin a joint.

[glockmail]

What ya feel after smokin a joint. I always feel like brushing my teeth.

[Psychoblues]

Whining and denying your brethren and sworn perps will not improve your position, nm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Actually Psycho, Oberman made the statement! Don't you think the board Libs should show PROOF of this assumption???? Or does Oberman get a pass because his ideals fall in line with yours???!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

His attitude is yours to deal with, cowgirl. Eliminate it or live with it. Your choice?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[PostmodernProphet]

Oberman's a perp......

[crin63]

Lets see, Von Brunn had the Weekly Standard and Fox News buildings targeted. He believed that President Bush was in on 9-11.

HMMM, sounds more like you Liberals.

[Psychoblues]

'Zat all you got, cr?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!



Lets see, Von Brunn had the Weekly Standard and Fox News buildings targeted. He believed that President Bush was in on 9-11.

HMMM, sounds more like you Liberals.

Pitiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Psychoblues

[crin63]

'Zat all you got, cr?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!

Pitiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues


Its more than you have contributed Dave. Your one and two line insults are what is pitiful. You might want to try something of substance.

[emmett]

Psycho...got anything to back up your claim or is this just more rhetorical innuendo by the "left" side of the board.

[Psychoblues]

If you have something, deliver it, cr. Don"t whine because you can't, punk!!!!!!!!!



Its more than you have contributed Dave. Your one and two line insults are what is pitiful. You might want to try something of substance.

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[Mr. P]

If you have something, deliver it, cr. Don"t whine because you can't, punk!!!!!!!!!




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Psychoblues

I believe you were the one to make a claim that you can't back..stop the deflection. Geezzz

[crin63]

If you have something, deliver it, cr. Don"t whine because you can't, punk!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

Your one and two liners neither punk or add substance, they are just pitiful.

[Psychoblues]

The gunman is a reichwinger, right winger, racist idiot. What you got to dispute that?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[avatar4321]

The gunman is a reichwinger, right winger, racist idiot. What you got to dispute that?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

His own words. Unless you think the Neocons are now a leftist movemenet...

[Psychoblues]

So you accuse the neocons as now being leftists?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!



His own words. Unless you think the Neocons are not a leftist movemenet...

You're a bigger fucking idiot than I ever imagined, a'21?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!???!?!?!!?

Have you no shame?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!??!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[darin]

PB removed from thread

[crin63]

Heres a little info I found.


James von Brunn, Homicidal Moonbat

When the racist fanatic James von Brunn went berserk at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum yesterday, it was inevitable that attempts would be made to characterize the maniac as "right wing," based on the liberal projection that conservatives are racists. However, von Brunn belongs to the Left.

The Examiner remarks on von Brunn's Internet trail:

The anti-semitism of von Brunn is the first thing one notices when visiting these bizarre websites. However, like those of most "white supremacists", many of von Brunn's political views track "Left" rather than "Right." Clearly, a re-evaluation of these obsolete definitions is long overdue.

For example, he unleashed his hatred of both Presidents Bush and other "neo-conservatives" in online essays. As even some "progressives" such as the influential Adbusters magazine publicly admit, "neoconservative" is often used as a derogatory code word for "Jews". As well, even a cursory glance at "white supremacist" writings reveals a hatred of, say, big corporations that is virtually indistinguishable from that of anti-globalization activists.

Like many moonbats, von Brunn is a sucker for 9/11 conspiracy theories:

James W. von Brunn, the suspect in Wednesday's shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC, believed "that many grave and still unresolved crimes were committed by US officials prior to, during and after the events of 9/11" according to an online petition he signed. …

911Truth.org, one of the sponsors of the petition, exists, among other things, "to expose the official lies and cover-up surrounding the events of September 11th, 2001 in a way that inspires the people to overcome denial and understand the truth; namely, that elements within the US government and covert policy apparatus must have orchestrated or participated in the execution of the attacks for these to have happened in the way that they did," according to its website.

Moonbats are also heavily into Darwin. von Brunn is no exception, following the progressive socialist Adolf Hitler's lead in using Darwinist concepts to support his race hatred.

Here's what von Brunn has to say about Christianity:

The New Testament was written in Greek. Paul — who believed the World was flat, that Joshua made the sun stand still, and Jehovah spoke from a burning bush — wrote one-third of it, perhaps more. The events described in the 24 Books are often contradictory, fail the time-line, defy both archaeology's and nature's immutable laws, and are suicidal if practiced. Nevertheless, the shamans bought it, taught it, and the illiterate public was coerced, brainwashed, threatened, tortured, murdered, and enthralled. …

The Gospels profess that only Christians may enter Yahweh's Kingdom of Heaven. To qualify, among other demands, Christians must LOVE THEIR ENEMIES (Jews); give away their personal belongings; eschew knowledge; judge not, despise nature, abandon earthly pleasures, acknowledge that all YHWH's children are equal; and above all else worship YHWH, the jealous, wrathful, vengeful, unforgiving, genocidal, anthropomorphic tribal god (Jesus' father) created by Hebrews in their image and likeness. Omnipotent, omniscient YHWH promises Hebrews that they alone shall inherit the earth, that it is commendable to steal from Gentiles, better yet — kill them. Whereas Gentiles, if they fail to worship YHWH, are transported straight to Hell. And it is written, "A little child shall lead them."

These dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, DESTROYED the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!

The Big Lie technique, employed by Paul to create the CHRISTIAN RELIGION, also was used to create the HOLOCAUST RELIGION ... CHRISTIANITY AND THE HOLOCAUST are HOAXES.

If it barks like a moonbat, it's a moonbat.

http://www.moonbattery.com/

[red states rule]

Your one and two liners neither punk or add substance, they are just pitiful.

But they do get him banned :beer:

[Insein]

Do have to love the irresponsible journalism to jump right to saying "Right wing Terrorist" when they either were ignorant of or deliberately knew the facts surrounding his beliefs and motives. :rolleyes:

This story here is the biggest piece of evidence in the case that the media is fully in line with the liberal agenda and moves with marching orders, not journalistic integrity.

[Monkeybone]

Do have to love the irresponsible journalism to jump right to saying "Right wing Terrorist" when they either were ignorant of or deliberately knew the facts surrounding his beliefs and motives. :rolleyes:

This story here is the biggest piece of evidence in the case that the media is fully in line with the liberal agenda and moves with marching orders, not journalistic integrity.

Did he have a Gun? Yes, then he must me a Right Winger.

Did he shoot someone? Yes, then he must be a terrorist.

Quick! get this breaking story on the news! People must know!

[Silver]

Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
Suspect in death of security guard defies easy stereotyping
Posted: June 11, 2009
11:45 pm Eastern
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100882
James von Brunn

James von Brunn, the man who allegedly shot and killed a guard at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., was a Darwin-lover who hated the Bible and Christians, and defies media efforts to classify him as a stereotypical "right-winger," according to reports.

The Moonbattery blog revealed von Brunn advocated the socialist policies espoused by Adolf Hitler and used Darwinian theory to support his anti-Semitism.

And in statements that later were stripped from an anti-religion website, he wrote, "The Big Lie technique, employed by Paul to create the CHRISTIAN RELIGION, also was used to create the HOLOCAUST RELIGION … CHRISTIANITY AND THE HOLOCAUST are HOAXES."

[Gaffer]

Sounds a lot like a poster that use to post here all the time...noahide ring a bell?

[Insein]

Its funny. The media aspires to the same beliefs on "the Big Lie." Just look at the person who started this thread.

[glockmail]

There's lots of blogs out there asserting that this guy's a registered Democrat in Maryland. Does anyone have any reliable evidence of this?

[Mr. P]

There's lots of blogs out there asserting that this guy's a registered Democrat in Maryland. Does anyone have any reliable evidence of this?

All that matters is he's a wacko..regardless of his politics.

[glockmail]

All that matters is he's a wacko..regardless of his politics.When the main stream media screams up and down that this guy was a right wing extremist, it matters.

[Mr. P]

When the main stream media screams up and down that this guy was a right wing extremist, it matters.

Not unless it's reported..here it doesn't matter.

[red states rule]

Here is this from the Washington Times

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While Mr. von Brunn is currently being made out to be the poster child of the Republican Party, even a cursory look at his professed views shows he is the avowed enemy of the GOP in its current incarnation. Among many others, Mr. von Brunn hates Rupert Murdoch, Fox News (that means you, too, Shep!), George W. Bush and John McCain. And according to the FBI, Mr. von Brunn even had in his vehicle the address of the Weekly Standard, home base of the dreaded "neo-cons."

Seems Mr. von Brunn wasn't a big fan of the Iraq War and also believed that 9/11 was an "inside job." Given this political sketch, Mr. von Brunn would feel at home at Camp Casey, Cindy Sheehan's antiwar outpost in Crawford, Texas, and at the Daily Kos convention, rather than partaking in a National Review cruise with pro-Israeli war hawks Mark Steyn and Victor Davis Hanson.

It's not Charles Lindbergh's Republican Party any more. And it hasn't been for more than a half-century. But don't tell that to the facile minds at the DHS and CNN.

The inconvenient truth is that David Duke and James von Brunn currently share more in common with Markos Moulitsas and Arianna Huffington than with Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer. But the right wouldn't be so crass or foolish to try to blame the political left for the existence of - or motivation behind - haters like Mr. von Brunn.

No one is suggesting Mr. von Brunn was doing hip rolls at the Huffington Post pilates tent during the Democratic National Convention, but his underlying philosophy, when examined and detailed, shares eerie similarities to the dominant "multicultural" mind-set at the liberal American college campus and on prominent left-wing blogs.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/15/the-left-cries-racist-in-a-crowded-country/?feat=home_headlines

[emmett]

Von Brunn is a whacko! Like P said, it doesn't matter here what party he votes for. From what RSR has shown, he pretty clearly is a radical lefty but i wouldn't waste a moment trying to prove it. The guy is a pecan. That's it plain and simple.

The left will because of their media advantage always jump to place a right wing tie to anything. In turn they ignore obvious left bungles. Where is news about Al Gore's son, acknowledgement of anything barry has ever done wrong or any of the news worthy items that used to get reasonable coverage by all networks when news was news. well...news ain't news no more folks...it is nothing but a propaganda machine. Fox is as guilty of it as the US Government News Agency is but they have to be. Basically they represent the only "other" angle. Rupert is smart to keep leaning right, even though he himself is a left hander. In essence though he is doing the same thing, at least his motivation is ratings however. Theirs is .......hmm.....what the hell is theirs?