The Ammo Shortage

[crin63]

There is a huge ammo shortage going on in case no one else is aware of it. At Walmart the shelves are empty. They say that they just cant get any in.

Bass Pro Shop sold out of 5000 rounds of 9mm, 2000 rounds of 40S&W, 2000 rounds of 22LR and 2000 rounds of 45acp in about 15 minutes of putting the ammo out. A salesman told me that some guy came in a month and half to 2 months ago and bought a pallet of 45acp and a pallet of 40 S&W.

There are no gun shops or sporting goods stores around me that can keep any ammo in stock. Its all gone within 24 hours.

The gun shows are selling out of ammo within 30 minutes to an hour here in the Los Angeles area, in Arizona and one of my ammo suppliers in Texas said the same thing is happening there.

There is such a run on ammo that powder, primers and bullets are nearly impossible to find.

The same thing is happening with guns. Particularly pistols and semiautomatic rifles. Display cases are emptied of pistols at local chains and Semiauto rifles are being bought up as quick as they hit the shelves.

As I talk to people they are terrified of Obama and the Liberals so they are stocking up. Many are preparing for an all out civil war, and some even want it. They are also preparing for race riots that most seem to think is inevitable when Obamas economy finishes collapsing in another year by some estimates.

All I know is its turning into a dangerous time for our country and it seems something has got to give. I hope civil war is not in our future but both sides seem to be pretty tense and the Liberals are gonna keep trying their best to destroy America. My friends that grew up in the Soviet Union cannot believe what is happening before their eyes. Republicans are a stroll to communisn/socialism and Democrats are in a sprint. They are of the opinion we are right on the edge of becoming another Soviet type nation.

[Mr. P]

Three months ago I couldn't get 9mm at Walmart..I tried three stores, all sold out.

[crin63]

Three months ago I couldn't get 9mm at Walmart..I tried three stores, all sold out.

Its even worse now than it was then. The panic has spread. All the online stores where I used to buy ammo are all sold out with no back orders being taken.

[LiberalNation]

mass paranoia, so shoot less. Bullets cost a lot anyway.

[Mr. P]

mass paranoia, so shoot less. Bullets cost a lot anyway.

Babies an condoms aren't cheap, do people F'k less?

Nice to see ya back, LN..but I was hoping for better now that yer a college gal an all. :slap:

[darin]

mass paranoia, so shoot less. Bullets cost a lot anyway.

It's reasonable paranoia.

[Gaffer]

I hope all the ammo gets put to good use.

[LiberalNation]

It's reasonable paranoia.

Obama can't do anything on his own and most of this congress even voted to get rid of the assualt weapons ban. It is not reasonable, the feds aren't after your guns right now.

[Trigg]

Three months ago I couldn't get 9mm at Walmart..I tried three stores, all sold out.

They had some shells here the other day at wal-mart, mainly 22's though.

[darin]

Obama can't do anything on his own and most of this congress even voted to get rid of the assualt weapons ban. It is not reasonable, the feds aren't after your guns right now.

Right now. Where it'll happen is when taxes and fees are instituted making ammo all but un-affordable. Then, with each "progressive" (read: Liberal fool) appointed to higher positions, more laws will be enacted to destroy some of the freedoms we now enjoy, however tenuous.

Obama just nauseatingly poor judgment on those he appoints to high positions - look at the racist sexist pig he's named for the supreme court? Look at his choice for Secretary of state - Hell, his VP!!

[LiberalNation]

Love his sc pick, can't wait for her to be confirmed and Hillary rocks too.

[darin]

Love his sc pick, can't wait for her to be confirmed and Hillary rocks too.

What is wrong with you to love his SC pick? Do you have ANY idea of what kind of a bigoted, biased, bitch she has been in her career? You WANT that for a SC judge?

[LiberalNation]

A) she female, and will be only 1 of 2 on the court. B) her racial comments weren't that bad and one should expect their race to have influenced their life experience and views. C) she's catholic and so am I (kinda) so that's cool too.

[crin63]

A) she female, and will be only 1 of 2 on the court. B) her racial comments weren't that bad and one should expect their race to have influenced their life experience and views. C) she's catholic and so am I (kinda) so that's cool too.

Based on your criteria David Duke would make a good SC judge except he's not a woman. He's white, he's Christian and his race has influenced his life.

[LiberalNation]

So he went to law school and was a federal judge?

[crin63]

So he went to law school and was a federal judge?

You never mentioned her being a judge, that appeared to be secondary in your argument in favor to her racist comments and that she is a woman.

[LiberalNation]

Being a lawyer then judge is almost always a given for SC picks.

[crin63]

Being a lawyer then judge is almost always a given for SC picks.

Thats true but your conclusion was not that you like her because she is qualified as a judge and made good rulings from the bench. You like her for being a woman and a racist. So I just picked a man who is a racist to show how ridiculous it is to pick sex and race for any position.

[darin]

A) she female, and will be only 1 of 2 on the court. B) her racial comments weren't that bad and one should expect their race to have influenced their life experience and views. C) she's catholic and so am I (kinda) so that's cool too.

Why does being Female qualify her for the bench? Are you sexist?

weren't that bad? Can you imagine the stink if you substitute 'white' for latina in any of her speeches?

She JUDGES based on her bias, NOT the law - she's admitted as such. She's not catholic. There's no room in Christianity for racism, bigotry and hatred..or Liberals.

:)

[LiberalNation]

Why does being Female qualify her for the bench? Are you sexist?
being a female is why I want her on bench...........sure.

[Gunny]

There is a huge ammo shortage going on in case no one else is aware of it. At Walmart the shelves are empty. They say that they just cant get any in.

Bass Pro Shop sold out of 5000 rounds of 9mm, 2000 rounds of 40S&W, 2000 rounds of 22LR and 2000 rounds of 45acp in about 15 minutes of putting the ammo out. A salesman told me that some guy came in a month and half to 2 months ago and bought a pallet of 45acp and a pallet of 40 S&W.

There are no gun shops or sporting goods stores around me that can keep any ammo in stock. Its all gone within 24 hours.

The gun shows are selling out of ammo within 30 minutes to an hour here in the Los Angeles area, in Arizona and one of my ammo suppliers in Texas said the same thing is happening there.

There is such a run on ammo that powder, primers and bullets are nearly impossible to find.

The same thing is happening with guns. Particularly pistols and semiautomatic rifles. Display cases are emptied of pistols at local chains and Semiauto rifles are being bought up as quick as they hit the shelves.

As I talk to people they are terrified of Obama and the Liberals so they are stocking up. Many are preparing for an all out civil war, and some even want it. They are also preparing for race riots that most seem to think is inevitable when Obamas economy finishes collapsing in another year by some estimates.

All I know is its turning into a dangerous time for our country and it seems something has got to give. I hope civil war is not in our future but both sides seem to be pretty tense and the Liberals are gonna keep trying their best to destroy America. My friends that grew up in the Soviet Union cannot believe what is happening before their eyes. Republicans are a stroll to communisn/socialism and Democrats are in a sprint. They are of the opinion we are right on the edge of becoming another Soviet type nation.

I've found a couple of local dealers that have limits on sales so no one can walk in and just buy the whole pallet. It's a pain in the butt to go each day for 1 box of rounds per caliber per day, but if you want ammo ...

The whole thing is annoying, and buying up a bunch of ammo out of fear isn't really the brightest thing. Tactically speaking, in the event of all out war, you're facing Nat'l Guard troops in full combat gear. Survival would dictate taking THEIR weapons, ammo and gear. As long as you stay ahead in the head count, you'll always have their stuff to use on them.

I'm not too sure about a war, but some goober with a pallet of ammo running around the neighborhood is not reassuring. I see THAT as a much bigger threat. Face it, if you feel the need to have a pallet of ammo, something's not clicking right.

[LiberalNation]

Tactically speaking, in the event of all out war, you're facing Nat'l Guard troops in full combat gear. Survival would dictate taking THEIR weapons, ammo and gear. As long as you stay ahead in the head count, you'll always have their stuff to use on them.
active duty as well in case of a national rebellion. Rebels will be dead if they think they are going to fight with rifles. Take a page, ieds are the shit.

[Mr. P]

active duty as well in case of a national rebellion. Rebels will be dead if they think they are going to fight with rifles. Take a page, ieds are the shit.

Yer showing yer ignorance on this subject.

[Gunny]

active duty as well in case of a national rebellion. Rebels will be dead if they think they are going to fight with rifles. Take a page, ieds are the shit.

You better stop and think just WHO those "rebels" are.

Lot of vets around nowadays. Do you think we just forgot all we knew when we went home?

Then there's also the problem that the US military cannot be deployed legally within the US. Not that something like the law will stop the Obama Llama for a second.

THEN you have to get those military folk to turn those weapons on their own people.

Guess you didn't give this any more thought than your completely stupid comment that you are for Sotomayor being a justice simply for the fact she's a female.

[Gaffer]

I have a LOT of combat experience and even if I can't physically fight I can train others what to do. There are still a lot of us out there. Plus the fact the majority of the military will come over to our side. :salute:

[LiberalNation]

Then there's also the problem that the US military cannot be deployed legally within the US. Not that something like the law will stop the Obama Llama for a second.

It's happened before, the constitution doesn't seem to hold up to well in crisis.

[crin63]

You better stop and think just WHO those "rebels" are.

Lot of vets around nowadays. Do you think we just forgot all we knew when we went home?

Then there's also the problem that the US military cannot be deployed legally within the US. Not that something like the law will stop the Obama Llama for a second.

THEN you have to get those military folk to turn those weapons on their own people.

Guess you didn't give this any more thought than your completely stupid comment that you are for Sotomayor being a justice simply for the fact she's a female.

I was training a kid as mechanic back in 2001 that had just gotten out of the Army, he was 101st.

He said he would have no problem firing on American civilians if he was given an order to do so. His line of thinking was that if he was given that order it meant the person or persons were domestic enemies.

He said that he swore to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.

[Mr. P]

I was training a kid as mechanic back in 2001 that had just gotten out of the Army, he was 101st.

He said he would have no problem firing on American civilians if he was given an order to do so. His line of thinking was that if he was given that order it meant the person or persons were domestic enemies.

He said that he swore to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.

Sad that, but there are hundreds of thousands of vets that'll clean his clock.

[Gaffer]

I was training a kid as mechanic back in 2001 that had just gotten out of the Army, he was 101st.

He said he would have no problem firing on American civilians if he was given an order to do so. His line of thinking was that if he was given that order it meant the person or persons were domestic enemies.

He said that he swore to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.

Should have asked him if he would be so quick to do it if those domestic enemies were family members.

[Gunny]

I was training a kid as mechanic back in 2001 that had just gotten out of the Army, he was 101st.

He said he would have no problem firing on American civilians if he was given an order to do so. His line of thinking was that if he was given that order it meant the person or persons were domestic enemies.

He said that he swore to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.

Really. Obviously either he or you missed the part "to uphold THE CONSTITUTION against all enemies, foreign and domestic." The US Government is NOT the US Constitution, nor at this point and time, does it resemble it much.

I think MOST military people would feel differently. The people of the US ARE the Constitution. Supposed to be, anyway. I would have a BIG problem turning my weapons on US citizens in revolt against a government that does not represent the US Constitution.

Hopefully, it doesn't come to that because I would be equally appalled at having to fire on US troops carrying out the orders of a government that is out of control.

[crin63]

Really. Obviously either he or you missed the part "to uphold THE CONSTITUTION against all enemies, foreign and domestic." The US Government is NOT the US Constitution, nor at this point and time, does it resemble it much.

I think MOST military people would feel differently. The people of the US ARE the Constitution. Supposed to be, anyway. I would have a BIG problem turning my weapons on US citizens in revolt against a government that does not represent the US Constitution.

Hopefully, it doesn't come to that because I would be equally appalled at having to fire on US troops carrying out the orders of a government that is out of control.

I'm sure our conversation continued on after that but I was just so shocked by his answer that it is what really stuck in my head.

[Gunny]

I'm sure our conversation continued on after that but I was just so shocked by his answer that it is what really stuck in my head.

I can see your point, but you have to take his opinion with a grain of salt. He got out in 2001? After how many years? His only opportunity to have actually been in combat was Desert Shield/Desert Storm (Aug 90-Jun 91). Not that it isn't nor hasn't been done, but most people don't do 10 and just get out.

My point is, it's all fine and dandy to say what one will do based on wishful thinking but not having been put in the situation of actually having to do it. IMO, you got a mindless, rote answer from a grunt who never really gave such a scenario much thought.

It definitely presents a choice from which there is no return for any vet. And anyone that thinks the government isn't going to legislate itself into being in the right need only look at the US Civil War for an answer, the Constitution be damned.

There are proper mechanics to remove people from public office in the US. Let's just hope they work, making any such talk of armed rebellion purely academic.

[Psychoblues]

Are you scared you are going to run out of ammo?!?!?!??!?!?!? Who the fuck are you shooting at?!?!?!??!?!?!???!

WTF?!?!?!?!?!!?!!?!?!?

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[crin63]

Are you scared you are going to run out of ammo?!?!?!??!?!?!? Who the fuck are you shooting at?!?!?!??!?!?!???!

WTF?!?!?!?!?!!?!!?!?!?

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

I'm not planning to shoot at anyone moron but when the shelves are empty in most sporting goods, Walmarts, and gun shops it makes it hard go out plinking if you don't have any ammo.

[Sitarro]

What is wrong with you to love his SC pick? Do you have ANY idea of what kind of a bigoted, biased, bitch she has been in her career? You WANT that for a SC judge?

She looks like a bull dike, that's good enough for LN.