Lookin' to upgrade yer PC?

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I noticed the folks at Bootdaily.com are giving away two Motherboards for free - just gotta join their forums and give yer story on why you need one :)

Shouldn't be too hard for those of you who are forum junkies anyway...

http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=373&Itemid=52

[Baron Von Esslingen]

I did upgrade my PC. To a Mac. You know what they say...

Once you go Mac
You never go back.

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I did upgrade my PC. To a Mac. You know what they say...

Once you go Mac
You never go back.

you mean you switched to mac os... the hardware is the same ya goofball...


Actually - it's only liberals who use macs..

[Baron Von Esslingen]

you mean you switched to mac os... the hardware is the same ya goofball...

Can't be. I had a PC for years and it crashed damn near everyday. Froze up all the time doing the simplest things. Lost more documents than I could count and wound up being so infested with worms, viruses, and other shit while MS was withdrawing support for the version I was using that it became a box of crap before my eyes.

My Mac, on the other hand, has never crashed. Never lost a document. Never froze up. I'v had to restart it a half dozen times mainly to install updates. It came ready to use right out of the box and is as fast today as it was when I bought it. Nothing has corrupted any files and it's a breeze to use. Now, who's the goofball?


Actually - it's only liberals who use macs..

And damned fucking proud of it, too.

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Can't be. I had a PC for years and it crashed damn near everyday. Froze up all the time doing the simplest things. Lost more documents than I could count and wound up being so infested with worms, viruses, and other shit while MS was withdrawing support for the version I was using that it became a box of crap before my eyes.

My Mac, on the other hand, has never crashed. Never lost a document. Never froze up. I'v had to restart it a half dozen times mainly to install updates. It came ready to use right out of the box and is as fast today as it was when I bought it. Nothing has corrupted any files and it's a breeze to use. Now, who's the goofball?

Now you're showing your ignorance...


Have you noticed the macs have "intel inside"? Uh.. hello... the went to x86 awhile ago....

In fact, you can install mac osX on PCs too...

If you let your PC get infested with worms and viruses etc... it means you're the kind of person who has no business using a PC and should consider a typewriter... or a Mac... after all... like most libs who use Macs - they have to resort to it because all the options using Windows is too overwhelming for their limited thought process... I mean, why would you want to use a platform like Windows which provides you with choices when you can have an OS that thinks for you?

Just like a typical lib, no brians - the perfect mac user...

[jimnyc]

Can't be. I had a PC for years and it crashed damn near everyday. Froze up all the time doing the simplest things. Lost more documents than I could count and wound up being so infested with worms, viruses, and other shit while MS was withdrawing support for the version I was using that it became a box of crap before my eyes.

Not looking for a fight, just stating my experiences as someone who has been involved in fixing PC's and servers for about 17 years now.

Freezing and crashing happen with PC's, no doubt about it, but 95% of the time it is operator error. Yes, MS has issues when they first release software and you have to endure many updates. I wish they would just perfect their OS before releasing, but matching the OS with a gazillion programs out there is no easy task.

Most issues are caused by worms, spyware, malware, viruses... When precautionary, these shouldn't be an issue for you. I have a great antivirus program, spyware program, live spyware/malware detector and a couple of other programs used to keep my machine clean (run at least weekly).

I'm guessing you had NT or 2000, both of which I've heard they are withdrawing support for, likely as an incentive to get you to upgrade! Never said MS wasn't a bunch of greedy bastards!


My Mac, on the other hand, has never crashed. Never lost a document. Never froze up. I'v had to restart it a half dozen times mainly to install updates. It came ready to use right out of the box and is as fast today as it was when I bought it. Nothing has corrupted any files and it's a breeze to use. Now, who's the goofball?

Can't argue with that, I've heard many similar reviews from other Mac users. I know as well that they are supposedly superior for those interested in heavy graphic use/manipulation. My main reasons for not going Mac are: the price, and the availability of the hundreds of programs I use. Sad to say, but many companies cater their software to MS.

Suffice to say, both OS's are good, and both have their cons.

[jimnyc]

I noticed the folks at Bootdaily.com are giving away two Motherboards for free - just gotta join their forums and give yer story on why you need one :)

Shouldn't be too hard for those of you who are forum junkies anyway...

http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=373&Itemid=52

Sweet! On my way there to join now! Thanks for the tip! :)

[KarlMarx]

I've heard from several people that MacOS is actually Unix. If that's true, then it must OK!

Unix Power, baby!

PS. Then why am I still using Windows? Cause I'm a nutcase, that's why! :)

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I've heard from several people that MacOS is actually Unix. If that's true, then it must OK!

Unix Power, baby!

PS. Then why am I still using Windows? Cause I'm a nutcase, that's why! :)

Yes - it uses a unix kernel - that's why apple was able to get it to run on x86 hardware like the Intel Core2Duo..

[KarlMarx]

Yes - it uses a unix kernel - that's why apple was able to get it to run on x86 hardware like the Intel Core2Duo..
Unix --- made by Bell Laboratories in 1970 --- the name is a word play on the opearting system Multics, which was a project that some of the founders worked on.

[CockySOB]

Technically not UNIX, but POSIX-based. Apple did produce its own variant of UNIX called A/UX, but the kernel of OS X is not a fork of the UNIX kernel. POSIX is an international standard for a Portable Operating System Interface (ISO 9455) whose acronym became POSIX.

[Dilloduck]

Technically not UNIX, but POSIX-based. Apple did produce its own variant of UNIX called A/UX, but the kernel of OS X is not a fork of the UNIX kernel. POSIX is an international standard for a Portable Operating System Interface (ISO 9455) whose acronym became POSIX.

Some days I wish I could understood what the hell you guys are talking about. :laugh2:

[CockySOB]

Some days I wish I could understood what the hell you guys are talking about. :laugh2:

There are a lot of days I wish I didn't know as much as I do.... :laugh2:

[Baron Von Esslingen]

Now you're showing your ignorance...


Have you noticed the macs have "intel inside"? Uh.. hello... the went to x86 awhile ago....

In fact, you can install mac osX on PCs too...

If you let your PC get infested with worms and viruses etc... it means you're the kind of person who has no business using a PC and should consider a typewriter... or a Mac... after all... like most libs who use Macs - they have to resort to it because all the options using Windows is too overwhelming for their limited thought process... I mean, why would you want to use a platform like Windows which provides you with choices when you can have an OS that thinks for you?

Just like a typical lib, no brians - the perfect mac user...

I was going to respond to your diatribe but jimnyc hit the nail on the head about the greed of MS and their lack of support for customers who bought their programs faithfully for years. So, I'm just going to write your whining off as the disturbed cries of a mentally deficient neocon who can't deal with anyone stepping out of the goosestepping Microsoft parade. :slap:

[darin]

I was going to respond to your diatribe but jimnyc hit the nail on the head about the greed of MS and their lack of support for customers who bought their programs faithfully for years. So, I'm just going to write your whining off as the disturbed cries of a mentally deficient neocon who can't deal with anyone stepping out of the goosestepping Microsoft parade. :slap:

But you didnt address ANYTHING he wrote. You made factual errors in your assessment of the Mac vs PC; he corrected you, and now you're saying he's goosestepping to MS because you were wrong?

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I was going to respond to your diatribe but jimnyc hit the nail on the head about the greed of MS and their lack of support for customers who bought their programs faithfully for years. So, I'm just going to write your whining off as the disturbed cries of a mentally deficient neocon who can't deal with anyone stepping out of the goosestepping Microsoft parade. :slap:

Hmm.... what part of my "diatribe" was cheering for Microsoft? Also, how is MS any more "greedy" than Apple? Are both companies not in business for PROFIT? Jeesh...

You can bash Microsoft all you want - I don't care.... If you don't like MS you can switch to Linux... but you need to understand that if it wasn't for Microsoft, the PC would not be where it's at today and that's a fact... Like them or not, their marketing muscle has pushed PC's into being a mainstream product that's more affordable than ever..

[5stringJeff]

I have a great antivirus program, spyware program, live spyware/malware detector and a couple of other programs used to keep my machine clean (run at least weekly).

Jim, what exactly do you use? I'm using AVG Anti-virus and Spybot right now.

[CockySOB]

Jim, what exactly do you use? I'm using AVG Anti-virus and Spybot right now.

Grisoft has consistently put out the best anti-virus on the planet for the past 5-6 years. It has a smaller footprint and one of the best accuracy ratings in the industry. And considering their subscription price is based on a 2-year subscription, it's a helluva deal. It's also nice to watch a company put out a free version for home use which isn't crippled in any significant manner.

Spybot S&D is still one of the best spyware tools available. I couple it with HijackThis! by merijn. Spybot can't always remove what it finds, but in those cases, HijackThis! works wonders.

[Baron Von Esslingen]

But you didnt address ANYTHING he wrote. You made factual errors in your assessment of the Mac vs PC; he corrected you, and now you're saying he's goosestepping to MS because you were wrong?

You must have been reading a different post than the insult-filled one I was reading. He's no more right than you are despite your claims to the contrary. I made no factual errors. I expressed a personal opinion. I know it's hard to tell the difference but do try. Jimnyc explained why I quit PCs for a Mac but you obviously didn't see that either.

Bummer.

[darin]

You must have been reading a different post than the insult-filled one I was reading. He's no more right than you are despite your claims to the contrary. I made no factual errors. I expressed a personal opinion. I know it's hard to tell the difference but do try. Jimnyc explained why I quit PCs for a Mac but you obviously didn't see that either.

Bummer.

All you did was blast him when he pointed out the errs in your post. Think whatever makes you feel good.

[Mr. P]

Jim, what exactly do you use? I'm using AVG Anti-virus and Spybot right now.

I use both those and Ad-aware. They all work great for me.

[shattered]

I use both those and Ad-aware. They all work great for me.

Add c-shredder to the mix.

[shattered]

Good grief! How does a compu-geek thread turn into an argument?

[Sitarro]

Can't argue with that, I've heard many similar reviews from other Mac users. I know as well that they are supposedly superior for those interested in heavy graphic use/manipulation. My main reasons for not going Mac are: the price, and the availability of the hundreds of programs I use. Sad to say, but many companies cater their software to MS.

Suffice to say, both OS's are good, and both have their cons.

Damn, there must be a blizzard in hell right now because I am kind of agreeing with the Baron.......:eek: as most of you know I am a MACaholic.
I am certainly not liberal, I just want to get on my computer and have it work without having to be a technician. I understand that there are those that get pleasure out of building a computer and I think that is great, sorry that Apple doesn't allow you to use their OS when you do......I am guessing that this is why so many builders hate Apple.

I use PCs at work and I am astounded how awful the Microsoft OS is, it is worse than working on a MAC a decade ago. Sure, you can run more programs on the PC (most that aren't offered for both platforms are shit anyway)but then again you can run Windoze on the new MACs if you actually want to.

The price will never be as cheap as you can build a PC for or buy a cheap PC for but if compared equally set up, Apple is now much more competitive....the fact that you can use them for a very long time without any problems should also carry some weight. I remember a price comparison where a Dell was equally configured to a desktop MAC earlier this year, the MAC was a grand cheaper!

The fact is that I like the outstanding design of Apple's hardware and love how well the OS works inside those beautiful and innovative cases......very few people that I have known that switched ever even thought of going back.

Leopard is delayed because they used some of their techs to help get the phone out on time so they are saying it will come out in the fall. One thing is for sure, it will make Vista look like the crap that it is, hell, Tiger does that and it's 2 years old!

Here is their latest workstation ....

[Baron Von Esslingen]

All you did was blast him when he pointed out the errs in your post. Think whatever makes you feel good.

The error was his when he stated that my computer had Intel chips when it does not. The error was his when he stated that I allowed crap to infest my computer when it was MS's failure to support the model I had that caused the problems. The error was his when he stated that I could install mac os on a PC, as if I wanted to mess with a platform as unstable as that.

He was right about MS making computers mainstream but I never disputed that point.

And you threw your weight around when it was obvious that you didn't have a clue either. Yeah, whatever, man.

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The error was his when he stated that my computer had Intel chips when it does not. The error was his when he stated that I allowed crap to infest my computer when it was MS's failure to support the model I had that caused the problems. The error was his when he stated that I could install mac os on a PC, as if I wanted to mess with a platform as unstable as that.

The ERROR here is you, you retard.... Learn to READ .. sorry.. I know that's asking a LOT from a liberal... as most don't know how to read or understand things..

But.. I NEVER said "Your particualar Mac has Intel Inside."

I said "Have you noticed the macs have "intel inside"? Uh.. hello... the went to x86 awhile ago.."

Don't believe me?

RIGHT FROM APPLE'S SITE:
iMac. Starting at just $999, iMac features the 64-bit Core 2 Duo processor and dazzling 17-inch, 20-inch, and 24-inch displays.

Mac mini. Starting at $599, Mac mini provides an affordable entry to Intel Core Duo processors, iLife ’06 and Front Row.

MacBook. This decision is black and white — Intel Core 2 Duo, iLife ’06, built-in iSight, Front Row. Starting at $1099.

MacBook Pro. Even faster 15- and 17-inch models with Intel Core 2 Duo, iLife ’06, Front Row, and built-in iSight. From $1999.
http://www.apple.com/hardware/

So.. assuming you bought your Mac within the last year or so - and it wan't used - then you DO have "Intel Inside"..

You should really do the world a favor and donate your Mac to someone more deserving like one of our troops (http://www.laptopsforthewounded.com).... If you are so retarded to NOT know what type of CPU your PC has you have no business using one.


Secondly, I NEVER said "you can install Mac OS on YOUR PC".. what I said was:
"In fact, you can install mac osX on PCs too..."
http://uneasysilence.com/os-x-proven-hacked-and-running-on-an-ordinary-pc/
http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2005/08/3945/
http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2005/01/18/PearPC.html

The ERROR is yours when you expect Microsoft to support your stupidity and ignorance when running their OS... Nowhere in the EULA... oops better tell your pea-brain what that means (END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT) does it says "Microsoft promises to protect you from Viruses, spam or other milicous stuff that YOU allow onto your PC".

You NEED to watch the words of the infamous Bob Hope here because you ARE the description in this clip:

http://www.e-zfiles.com/725248

[Baron Von Esslingen]

The ERROR here is you, you retard.... Learn to READ .. sorry.. I know that's asking a LOT from a liberal... as most don't know how to read or understand things..

I understand you just fine, spazmo. Your mini dinosaur walnut brain has a hard time comprehending anyone that doesn't march in your designatied straight line.


But.. I NEVER said "Your particualar Mac has Intel Inside."
I said "Have you noticed the macs have "intel inside"? Uh.. hello... the went to x86 awhile ago.."

Never disputed that point, moron.


So.. assuming you bought your Mac within the last year or so - and it wan't used - then you DO have "Intel Inside"..

And THAT'S where you went wrong, bozo. Both points are wrong. I wouldn't expect anything less from a neocon who assumes facts not in evidence.


You should really do the world a favor and donate your Mac to someone more deserving like one of our troops (http://www.laptopsforthewounded.com).... If you are so retarded to NOT know what type of CPU your PC has you have no business using one.

You should do the world a favor by joining the military yourself and volunteer for service in Iraq and bring your PC with you. They will be happy to have your help freeing world from jihadists. Stay there until they are all dead, OK?


Secondly, I NEVER said "you can install Mac OS on YOUR PC".. what I said was:
"In fact, you can install mac osX on PCs too..."

My point was why the hell would I want to? Why pour dog shit on a philly cheese steak sandwich? Why try having a conversation with a whiny neocon who makes an ass of himself by all of his erroneous assumptions.


The ERROR is yours when you expect Microsoft to support your stupidity and ignorance when running their OS... Nowhere in the EULA... oops better tell your pea-brain what that means (END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT) does it says "Microsoft promises to protect you from Viruses, spam or other milicous stuff that YOU allow onto your PC".

My error was buying a hunk of junk and expecting a company to back up their product and not expect me to buy another one every three years. My error was expecting responsible behavior from a multinational. My error was buying all the recommended protections for that PC and having MS leave me high and dry and without support for what they sold me when I could have bought a Mac and not worried about it. I learned my lesson.

If you are what PCs are all about then I did the correct thing. See ya!