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red states rule
05-01-2009, 07:38 AM
It must be fun to be on Biden's staff. You come to work every monring, check the internet, and see what mess Biden caused that you have to try and clean up. Great job security however

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Or if you are the WHPS, you TELL reporters what Biden really said


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UoqPxNfLzA

mundame
05-01-2009, 08:03 AM
It must be fun to be on Biden's staff. You come to work every monring, check the internet, and see what mess Biden caused that you have to try and clean up. Great job security however


I sort of like Biden; I always have. Great senator hair. I wish he were prez instead of you-know-who.

I like Biden because he really says stuff! You know what he thinks, he tells the world! And most of it makes sense to me. Of course foreign powers will test Obama, and soon, too. Of course we all want to avoid the subways and other public transportation at a time of possible "plague."


Mind you, I'm from Maryland, Delaware's neighbor, so I'm used to him. http://macg.net/emoticons/smilebow.gif

red states rule
05-01-2009, 08:05 AM
I sort of like Biden; I always have. Great senator hair. I wish he were prez instead of you-know-who.

I like Biden because he really says stuff! You know what he thinks, he tells the world! And most of it makes sense to me. Of course foreign powers will test Obama, and soon, too. Of course we all want to avoid the subways and other public transportation at a time of possible "plague."


Mind you, I'm from Maryland, Delaware's neighbor, so I'm used to him. http://macg.net/emoticons/smilebow.gif


So lets shut down the nations public transportaion system because a few hundred people in the US are sick?

Who traveles in crates Mundame? Besides illegals I do not know anyone who does
Biden - the first VP who needs an interpreter so we wil know what the hell he is talking about

I do feel a little sorry for Gibbs. Trying to explain daily, the gaffes, lies, and screwups of the White House full of idiots makes him look like a babbling fool

mundame
05-01-2009, 08:12 AM
So lets shut down the nations public transportaion system because a few hundred people in the US are sick?

Who traveles in crates Mundame?



Biden didn't say to shut down public transportation, nor did he say we should all travel in crates.

He said he had advised his family to avoid planes and subways. And come on, haven't we all thought the same thing?

I'm getting quite fond of Biden --- he just comes right out and SAYS stuff! I like people who say exactly what they think, whether it's PC or not.

red states rule
05-01-2009, 08:18 AM
Biden didn't say to shut down public transportation, nor did he say we should all travel in crates.

He said he had advised his family to avoid planes and subways. And come on, haven't we all thought the same thing?

I'm getting quite fond of Biden --- he just comes right out and SAYS stuff! I like people who say exactly what they think, whether it's PC or not.



Well when Biden speaks - people laugh

1) In his attempt to defend Hillary Clinton when a supporter told Biden that he was glad Obama chose him and not Clinton, Biden responded by saying that Hillary "might have been a better pick than me."


2) Biden and Obama weren't always running mates. Earlier this year, they were both competing to become the Democratic candidates for president. In February of 2007, Biden commented on Obama's candidacy by saying "You got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy... I mean, that's a storybook, man." Biden spent the following days apologizing and explaining his gaffe.

3) At an event last year, Biden meant to boost of the relationship he had with the Indian American community in Delaware. Instead, he told an Indian American that "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking." YouTube helped spark and spread the controversy.

4) In the same interview with Katie Couric, Biden displayed a shaky grasp of history when he tried to criticize the White House response to the economic crisis by looking back at the Great Depression.

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden said. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

In 1929, Herbert Hoover (left) was president, not Franklin Roosevelt. And, although the television had technically been invented a few years earlier, it would be years before a televised presidential press conference.

5) During the Democratic primaries, Hillary Clinton got into hot water when she exaggerated the danger of a visit to Bosnia. But Biden made a similar claim in recounting a visit to Iraq during a Democratic debate.

Biden described Iraq's Green Zone as a place "where I have been seven times and shot at."

He later told The Hill newspaper that a more accurate description was, "I was near where a shot landed."


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/gallery/100108_biden_gaffes/

Jeff
05-01-2009, 08:18 AM
I glanced at the headlines on Yahoo this morning it said Biden and Parris Hilton a bit confused, LOL, they seem to have the same mentality.

red states rule
05-01-2009, 08:20 AM
I glanced at the headlines on Yahoo this morning it said Biden and Parris Hilton a bit confused, LOL, they seem to have the same mentality.

Paris is much smarter then Joe

Remember this classic gaffe?



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Jeff
05-01-2009, 08:26 AM
Paris is much smarter then Joe

Remember this classic gaffe?



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LOL, I bet he left that little girl as confused as he did I, I use to feel he would be better than Obama, but if ya put the 2 of them together ya still wouldn't have 1 that should be president

red states rule
05-01-2009, 08:30 AM
LOL, I bet he left that little girl as confused as he did I, I use to feel he would be better than Obama, but if ya put the 2 of them together ya still wouldn't have 1 that should be president

and this is the man who could be President. Even Biden knows it would be a tragedy

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Jeff
05-01-2009, 08:39 AM
Biden looks a bit intimated by the pretty smart lady standing next to him, And after watching his mess up's I have to agree with him , he would be worse than Obama, Unless maybe Joe really isn't that stupid , maybe Obama won't release anything Joe says except the stupid stuff, he may somehow think that makes him look better?

red states rule
05-01-2009, 08:40 AM
Then this one from the human gaffe machine

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Jeff
05-01-2009, 08:47 AM
You know if ya dumb him down just a bit more I would guess that is Virgil, there can't possible be 2 people more arrogant or ignorant , so maybe Virgil is telling the truth he isn't a preacher he is VP

mundame
05-01-2009, 08:49 AM
1) In his attempt to defend Hillary Clinton when a supporter told Biden that he was glad Obama chose him and not Clinton, Biden responded by saying that Hillary "might have been a better pick than me."


I take it you may agree with that...........I'm not sure that I do. I liked Hillary and would have voted for her for prez (I ended up not voting), but as VP? She's too active; she makes a good SecState.


2) Biden and Obama weren't always running mates. Earlier this year, they were both competing to become the Democratic candidates for president. In February of 2007, Biden commented on Obama's candidacy by saying "You got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy... I mean, that's a storybook, man."


But it was TRUE!! That's what I love ---- he just SAYS this stuff! And it is true, after all, what he said about Obama; Biden simply doesn't care about PC!


3) At an event last year, Biden meant to boost of the relationship he had with the Indian American community in Delaware. Instead, he told an Indian American that "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

I don't see why this is a problem: it IS true, I'm sure. And it doesn't seem to me something to be ashamed of. They have made a niche for themselves, they know how to run these convenience stores and share expertise; it's like Greeks running restaurants in Maryland. Indians run all the convenience stores in Maryland, too ----- I mean, there it is, it is true. It's perhaps snobbish to suppose Indians should be ashamed of their overwhelming representation running convenience stores.



"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden said. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

In 1929, Herbert Hoover (left) was president, not Franklin Roosevelt. And, although the television had technically been invented a few years earlier, it would be years before a televised presidential press conference.


Biden described Iraq's Green Zone as a place "where I have been seven times and shot at."

He later told The Hill newspaper that a more accurate description was, "I was near where a shot landed."


Details, details.........he was making it a better story. There was no crucial misinformation in any of that. Don't we all edit a little to tell a better story? http://macg.net/emoticons/wink15.gif



I don't care for the Obama administration much, but I am sort of a fan of Joe Biden.

red states rule
05-01-2009, 08:49 AM
You know if ya dumb him down just a bit more I would guess that is Virgil, there can't possible be 2 people more arrogant or ignorant , so maybe Virgil is telling the truth he isn't a preacher he is VP

Biden does keep the material coming Jeff

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Jeff
05-01-2009, 08:51 AM
these are great he is making a cloudy morning seem sunny and beautiful, LOL

red states rule
05-01-2009, 08:51 AM
1) In his attempt to defend Hillary Clinton when a supporter told Biden that he was glad Obama chose him and not Clinton, Biden responded by saying that Hillary "might have been a better pick than me."


I take it you may agree with that...........I'm not sure that I do. I liked Hillary and would have voted for her for prez (I ended up not voting), but as VP? She's too active; she makes a good SecState.


2) Biden and Obama weren't always running mates. Earlier this year, they were both competing to become the Democratic candidates for president. In February of 2007, Biden commented on Obama's candidacy by saying "You got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy... I mean, that's a storybook, man."


But it was TRUE!! That's what I love ---- he just SAYS this stuff! And it is true, after all, what he said about Obama; Biden simply doesn't care about PC!


3) At an event last year, Biden meant to boost of the relationship he had with the Indian American community in Delaware. Instead, he told an Indian American that "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

I don't see why this is a problem: it IS true, I'm sure. And it doesn't seem to me something to be ashamed of. They have made a niche for themselves, they know how to run these convenience stores and share expertise; it's like Greeks running restaurants in Maryland. Indians run all the convenience stores in Maryland, too ----- I mean, there it is, it is true. It's perhaps snobbish to suppose Indians should be ashamed of their overwhelming representation running convenience stores.



"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden said. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

In 1929, Herbert Hoover (left) was president, not Franklin Roosevelt. And, although the television had technically been invented a few years earlier, it would be years before a televised presidential press conference.


Biden described Iraq's Green Zone as a place "where I have been seven times and shot at."

He later told The Hill newspaper that a more accurate description was, "I was near where a shot landed."


Details, details.........he was making it a better story. There was no crucial misinformation in any of that. Don't we all edit a little to tell a better story? http://macg.net/emoticons/wink15.gif



I don't care for the Obama administration much, but I am sort of a fan of Joe Biden.

OK. You don't care we now have a lying, racist, hypicrital idiot as VP who could become President in a split second

If you would have voted for Hilary, I understand perfectly why

mundame
05-01-2009, 08:56 AM
OK. You don't care we now have a lying, racist, hypicrital idiot as VP who could become President in a split second

If you would have voted for Hilary, I understand perfectly why


I WOULD care, if I thought we had a lying, racist, hypocritical idiot as VP --- but I think we have a rather charming VP who is refreshingly unafraid to say what he thinks, and what he thinks tends to be what most people think, and I like that.

I understand, however, that YOU think Joe Biden is no good, and Hillary no better. And it's fine with me that you don't like them. (Good thing, huh?)

Jeff
05-01-2009, 08:57 AM
1) In his attempt to defend Hillary Clinton when a supporter told Biden that he was glad Obama chose him and not Clinton, Biden responded by saying that Hillary "might have been a better pick than me."


I take it you may agree with that...........I'm not sure that I do. I liked Hillary and would have voted for her for prez (I ended up not voting), but as VP? She's too active; she makes a good SecState.


2) Biden and Obama weren't always running mates. Earlier this year, they were both competing to become the Democratic candidates for president. In February of 2007, Biden commented on Obama's candidacy by saying "You got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy... I mean, that's a storybook, man."


But it was TRUE!! That's what I love ---- he just SAYS this stuff! And it is true, after all, what he said about Obama; Biden simply doesn't care about PC!


3) At an event last year, Biden meant to boost of the relationship he had with the Indian American community in Delaware. Instead, he told an Indian American that "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

I don't see why this is a problem: it IS true, I'm sure. And it doesn't seem to me something to be ashamed of. They have made a niche for themselves, they know how to run these convenience stores and share expertise; it's like Greeks running restaurants in Maryland. Indians run all the convenience stores in Maryland, too ----- I mean, there it is, it is true. It's perhaps snobbish to suppose Indians should be ashamed of their overwhelming representation running convenience stores.



"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden said. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

In 1929, Herbert Hoover (left) was president, not Franklin Roosevelt. And, although the television had technically been invented a few years earlier, it would be years before a televised presidential press conference.


Biden described Iraq's Green Zone as a place "where I have been seven times and shot at."

He later told The Hill newspaper that a more accurate description was, "I was near where a shot landed."


Details, details.........he was making it a better story. There was no crucial misinformation in any of that. Don't we all edit a little to tell a better story? http://macg.net/emoticons/wink15.gif



I don't care for the Obama administration much, but I am sort of a fan of Joe Biden.

At one time I would of rather seen him in office than Obama, but lets face it , he isn't talking facts he is just plain ol screwing up, he is shooting his mouth off before he thinks, ( I know I do it all the time ) LOL

As for Hillary after watching her roll her eyes after 9/11 I wouldn't elect her to the student counsel, she is even worse than Virgil with the Party over Country, she should be deported

red states rule
05-01-2009, 08:57 AM
I WOULD care, if I thought we had a lying, racist, hypocritical idiot as VP --- but I think we have a rather charming VP who is refreshingly unafraid to say what he thinks, and what he thinks tends to be what most people think, and I like that.

I understand, however, that YOU think Joe Biden is no good, and Hillary no better. And it's fine with me that you don't like them. (Good thing, huh?)

Well facts to Joe and his supporters really never meat much

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mundame
05-01-2009, 09:00 AM
At one time I would of rather seen him in office than Obama, but lets face it , he isn't talking facts he is just plain ol screwing up, he is shooting his mouth off before he thinks, ( I know I do it all the time ) LOL

Yeah, he gets in trouble a lot.

I sort of like it that he doesn't seem to care. (I don't care either, and I also get in trouble a lot......)




As for Hillary after watching her roll her eyes after 9/11 I wouldn't elect her


Roll her eyes? May I ask what are you referring to, Jeff?

Jeff
05-01-2009, 09:03 AM
Yeah, he gets in trouble a lot.

I sort of like it that he doesn't seem to care. (I don't care either, and I also get in trouble a lot......)






Roll her eyes? May I ask what are you referring to, Jeff?

The night GW gave his first speech after 9/11, she sat there rolling her eyes as the crowd applauded , this was a time when we all needed to come together, and she cared more about her party than her country.

And the best part was the media kept the camera on her, this is what surprised me when she was even thought of in the primary's , how can people forget so quick?

red states rule
05-01-2009, 09:04 AM
Yeah, he gets in trouble a lot.

I sort of like it that he doesn't seem to care. (I don't care either, and I also get in trouble a lot......)






Roll her eyes? May I ask what are you referring to, Jeff?

Why should he care? His supporters and the liberal meida will never call him on his lies and gaffes

As far as Hillary - it was during the speech pres Bush gave after 9-11. Amazing how the clinton supporters never know anything about this stuff


Wednesday, September 26, 2001
Hillary Clinton in crisis
by Michelle Malkin


What's eating Hillary Clinton? Her behavior during President Bush's address to Congress last week was abominable. At a time when even the most partisan of her Democratic colleagues stood united with the president, New York Sen. Clinton shunned patriotism for petulance. She grimaced. She sighed. She rolled her eyes. She fidgeted like a 5-year-old at an opera. And when Mrs. Clinton mustered enough energy to clap, she acted as if there were razor blades strapped to her palms. Although network talking heads refrained from comment, outraged Americans across the country spoke out. Teacher Kathie Larkin of Atlanta wrote to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: "This is behavior I would not accept from my sixth-graders listening to a speaker, and I expected better of an adult from a state ripped apart by terrorist violence. Hillary needs to grow up." James Gale of Silver Spring, Md., wrote to The Washington Post: "She at times seemed bored and uninterested, clapping perfunctorily, and at other times she was talking during the speech. I thought her actions were unbecoming a senator at this difficult time." The Boston Herald, one of the few bold newspapers to take note of Clinton's insolence, editorialized that she "looked like she was sucking on a lemon." And Karen Gauvreau of Clearwater, Fla., wrote to the St. Petersburg Times: "She would have been better off had she stayed home." Mrs. Clinton's staff claims she was weary from traveling. What nerve. All she had to do last week was park her taxpayer-funded backside on a plane seat. Meanwhile, her constituents and volunteers from across the country pulled 13-hour shifts, sifting through rubble, sorting body parts, and collapsing on curbsides from exhaustion and grief. A few nights' rest didn't seem to cure Mrs. Clinton's unsightly condition. During last weekend's prayer memorial at Yankee Stadium, she remained dour and tight-lipped as the tearful crowd of thousands sang the national anthem. Hiding behind sunglasses -- guess she can't control the rolling eyeballs any more than Al Gore can control his heaving sighs -- Mrs. Clinton posed for photos with a strange sneer frozen on her stony face. Let there be no doubt about whose interests come first for Mrs. Clinton in times of crisis. While New Yorkers mourned, their junior senator sulked. Then she tried to rip off both President Bush's and Mayor Giuliani's coattails by claiming credit for securing federal disaster aid. The damage-control patrol at The New York Times ate up her narcissistic spin. A Sunday puff piece, which was silent on her churlish performances, extolled her "full transition from a former first lady who happened to hold a Senate seat to true federal legislator." The paper reported that "Mrs. Clinton has carefully guided the Giuliani administration on how agreements are forged between Congress and the White House" and has "taken on chores like holding the hands of counselors for families, usually out of the way of a camera." Gag. As if Giuliani needed "guiding." As if grief counselors needed help from a woman who just two years ago planted her lips on the cheeks of blood-thirsty Yasser Arafat's wife after she spewed anti-Israel, terrorist propaganda. Adversity magnifies deep character flaws that no pair of sunglasses can conceal. Hillary Clinton's resentful visage and insouciant behavior this past week reveal that -- like her husband -- she suffers from a fatal inability to put love of country above love of self. In the weeks before the attack, Mrs. Clinton was gearing up to drive the anti-GOP bandwagon on her path toward greater power and higher office. She had raised big bucks for fellow Democrats and helped block President Bush's choice to head the Consumer Product Safety Commission. The Beltway buzzed with fresh rumors of a possible presidential bid. "Senator Clinton is on the rise, moving back into public life, enjoying a bit of the spotlight and savoring the fact that whatever attention she does get is all about her," gushed Time magazine last month. That all changed when the Twin Towers came crashing down on 9-11. "I think we were all victimized by this," Mrs. Clinton said last week. An expression of sympathy for others -- or a self-pitying lament? The cold, corrosive look in Hillary Clinton's eyes speaks for itself.

http://townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2001/09/26/hillary_clinton_in_crisis

Jeff
05-01-2009, 09:06 AM
Why should he care? His supporters and the liberal meida will never call him on his lies and gaffes

As far as Hillary - it was during the speech pres Bush gave after 9-11. Amazing how the clinton supporters never know anything about this stuff


Wednesday, September 26, 2001
Hillary Clinton in crisis
by Michelle Malkin


What's eating Hillary Clinton? Her behavior during President Bush's address to Congress last week was abominable. At a time when even the most partisan of her Democratic colleagues stood united with the president, New York Sen. Clinton shunned patriotism for petulance. She grimaced. She sighed. She rolled her eyes. She fidgeted like a 5-year-old at an opera. And when Mrs. Clinton mustered enough energy to clap, she acted as if there were razor blades strapped to her palms. Although network talking heads refrained from comment, outraged Americans across the country spoke out. Teacher Kathie Larkin of Atlanta wrote to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: "This is behavior I would not accept from my sixth-graders listening to a speaker, and I expected better of an adult from a state ripped apart by terrorist violence. Hillary needs to grow up." James Gale of Silver Spring, Md., wrote to The Washington Post: "She at times seemed bored and uninterested, clapping perfunctorily, and at other times she was talking during the speech. I thought her actions were unbecoming a senator at this difficult time." The Boston Herald, one of the few bold newspapers to take note of Clinton's insolence, editorialized that she "looked like she was sucking on a lemon." And Karen Gauvreau of Clearwater, Fla., wrote to the St. Petersburg Times: "She would have been better off had she stayed home." Mrs. Clinton's staff claims she was weary from traveling. What nerve. All she had to do last week was park her taxpayer-funded backside on a plane seat. Meanwhile, her constituents and volunteers from across the country pulled 13-hour shifts, sifting through rubble, sorting body parts, and collapsing on curbsides from exhaustion and grief. A few nights' rest didn't seem to cure Mrs. Clinton's unsightly condition. During last weekend's prayer memorial at Yankee Stadium, she remained dour and tight-lipped as the tearful crowd of thousands sang the national anthem. Hiding behind sunglasses -- guess she can't control the rolling eyeballs any more than Al Gore can control his heaving sighs -- Mrs. Clinton posed for photos with a strange sneer frozen on her stony face. Let there be no doubt about whose interests come first for Mrs. Clinton in times of crisis. While New Yorkers mourned, their junior senator sulked. Then she tried to rip off both President Bush's and Mayor Giuliani's coattails by claiming credit for securing federal disaster aid. The damage-control patrol at The New York Times ate up her narcissistic spin. A Sunday puff piece, which was silent on her churlish performances, extolled her "full transition from a former first lady who happened to hold a Senate seat to true federal legislator." The paper reported that "Mrs. Clinton has carefully guided the Giuliani administration on how agreements are forged between Congress and the White House" and has "taken on chores like holding the hands of counselors for families, usually out of the way of a camera." Gag. As if Giuliani needed "guiding." As if grief counselors needed help from a woman who just two years ago planted her lips on the cheeks of blood-thirsty Yasser Arafat's wife after she spewed anti-Israel, terrorist propaganda. Adversity magnifies deep character flaws that no pair of sunglasses can conceal. Hillary Clinton's resentful visage and insouciant behavior this past week reveal that -- like her husband -- she suffers from a fatal inability to put love of country above love of self. In the weeks before the attack, Mrs. Clinton was gearing up to drive the anti-GOP bandwagon on her path toward greater power and higher office. She had raised big bucks for fellow Democrats and helped block President Bush's choice to head the Consumer Product Safety Commission. The Beltway buzzed with fresh rumors of a possible presidential bid. "Senator Clinton is on the rise, moving back into public life, enjoying a bit of the spotlight and savoring the fact that whatever attention she does get is all about her," gushed Time magazine last month. That all changed when the Twin Towers came crashing down on 9-11. "I think we were all victimized by this," Mrs. Clinton said last week. An expression of sympathy for others -- or a self-pitying lament? The cold, corrosive look in Hillary Clinton's eyes speaks for itself.

http://townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2001/09/26/hillary_clinton_in_crisis

Dang, LOL, you get facts quicker than I can mis spell a couple words, LOL,

red states rule
05-01-2009, 09:12 AM
Dang, LOL, you get facts quicker than I can mis spell a couple words, LOL,

Almost as fast as a Hillary, Biden, or Obama supporter starts up their spin cycle when hit with facts


Back to Joe


Biden Misleads That Al Qaeda Forced His Helicopter Down in Afghanistan... Where is Media Exposing This Lie?
By Warner Todd Huston (Bio | Archive)
September 22, 2008 - 20:06 ET

Back on September 10 in a visit to Chicago's Lincoln Park neighborhood, Democratic VP candidate Joe Biden seemed to hint that al Qaeda forced down a helicopter he was traveling in when he was visiting Afghanistan in February of 2008. He made the claim again on September 22 in a campaign stop at the National Guard Association. The truth, however, is not exactly what Biden may be trying to allege. Thus far, only ABC's Jake Tapper is exposing the ruse for what it is, a misleading tale pumped up to make his Afghanistan visit seem more menacing than it really was.

The Chicago Sun-Times reports that on September 10 Biden told a Chicago audience a harrowing tale about his helicopter ride.

"The superhighway of terror between Pakistan and Afghanistan where my helicopter was forced down...John McCain wants to know where Bin Ladin and the gates of Hell are? I can tell him where. That's where Al Quaida is. That's where Bin Ladin is. It's not in the country of Iraq."


Wow. Forced down was it? Biden says this as if it were some attack that forced his helicopter down, doesn't he? However, immediately after that September 10 campaign stop, it came out pretty quickly that Biden's helicopter was not forced down by enemy weapons fire. No, it was a snow storm in the mountains that "forced" the aircraft down and then only because the pilot thought the better decision would be to err on the side of safety. He had generals and Senators in his craft, after all. You can imagine how nervous the pilot was in that case.

Now, let's face the truth here. Biden would not be using the words "forced down" without explaining that it was weather that forced him down unless he meant to convey that he was forced down in some extraordinary circumstances, as if he'd been fired upon. If he didn't mean to mislead the audience into imagining that weapons fire "forced" his craft down he would say that "when the weather forced down my helicopter." If he didn't mean to give his helicopter ride more gravity, the "forced down" part was meaningless to the greater point.

After all, Biden linked the war, the hunt for bin Laden, al Qaeda and his helicopter going down in one story as if they were all directly linked. But, in truth, the helicopter going down had absolutely nothing to do with al Qaeda, bin Laden, or the war. It was all because of a little snow and THAT could have happened right in Delaware.

Tapper was too nice to say it outright, but Biden was basically trying to mislead his audience into imagining that his helicopter was forced down by the enemy and that while in Afghanistan he was in mortal danger because of al Qaeda. All that is marginally true in a lawyer's fashion. But linked together as they were, these details present a misleading picture of a danger that Biden did not face.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/22/biden-misleads-al-qaeda-forced-his-helicopter-down-afghanistan-w

Jeff
05-01-2009, 09:16 AM
Almost as fast as a Hillary, Biden, or Obama supporter starts up their spin cycle when hit with facts


Back to Joe


Biden Misleads That Al Qaeda Forced His Helicopter Down in Afghanistan... Where is Media Exposing This Lie?
By Warner Todd Huston (Bio | Archive)
September 22, 2008 - 20:06 ET

Back on September 10 in a visit to Chicago's Lincoln Park neighborhood, Democratic VP candidate Joe Biden seemed to hint that al Qaeda forced down a helicopter he was traveling in when he was visiting Afghanistan in February of 2008. He made the claim again on September 22 in a campaign stop at the National Guard Association. The truth, however, is not exactly what Biden may be trying to allege. Thus far, only ABC's Jake Tapper is exposing the ruse for what it is, a misleading tale pumped up to make his Afghanistan visit seem more menacing than it really was.

The Chicago Sun-Times reports that on September 10 Biden told a Chicago audience a harrowing tale about his helicopter ride.

"The superhighway of terror between Pakistan and Afghanistan where my helicopter was forced down...John McCain wants to know where Bin Ladin and the gates of Hell are? I can tell him where. That's where Al Quaida is. That's where Bin Ladin is. It's not in the country of Iraq."


Wow. Forced down was it? Biden says this as if it were some attack that forced his helicopter down, doesn't he? However, immediately after that September 10 campaign stop, it came out pretty quickly that Biden's helicopter was not forced down by enemy weapons fire. No, it was a snow storm in the mountains that "forced" the aircraft down and then only because the pilot thought the better decision would be to err on the side of safety. He had generals and Senators in his craft, after all. You can imagine how nervous the pilot was in that case.

Now, let's face the truth here. Biden would not be using the words "forced down" without explaining that it was weather that forced him down unless he meant to convey that he was forced down in some extraordinary circumstances, as if he'd been fired upon. If he didn't mean to mislead the audience into imagining that weapons fire "forced" his craft down he would say that "when the weather forced down my helicopter." If he didn't mean to give his helicopter ride more gravity, the "forced down" part was meaningless to the greater point.

After all, Biden linked the war, the hunt for bin Laden, al Qaeda and his helicopter going down in one story as if they were all directly linked. But, in truth, the helicopter going down had absolutely nothing to do with al Qaeda, bin Laden, or the war. It was all because of a little snow and THAT could have happened right in Delaware.

Tapper was too nice to say it outright, but Biden was basically trying to mislead his audience into imagining that his helicopter was forced down by the enemy and that while in Afghanistan he was in mortal danger because of al Qaeda. All that is marginally true in a lawyer's fashion. But linked together as they were, these details present a misleading picture of a danger that Biden did not face.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/22/biden-misleads-al-qaeda-forced-his-helicopter-down-afghanistan-w

He is following John Kerry's lead, ya think he is looking for a purple heart also?

mundame
05-01-2009, 09:38 AM
Okay, I see, thanx for the Hillary info, Jeff and RSR.

82Marine89
05-01-2009, 01:13 PM
Dang, LOL, you get facts quicker than I can mis spell a couple words, LOL,

You misspelled 'misspell'. :poke:

glockmail
05-01-2009, 01:34 PM
You know if ya dumb him down just a bit more I would guess that is Virgil, there can't possible be 2 people more arrogant or ignorant , so maybe Virgil is telling the truth he isn't a preacher he is VP Biden's just a preacher in the Church of Liberalism, under the High Priest Obama.

Kathianne
05-01-2009, 04:59 PM
You misspelled 'misspell'. :poke:

Oh horrors! :eek:

emmett
05-01-2009, 07:16 PM
See...there you guys go bashing Biden. Frankly, I think he is the absolute perfect compliment to the "quality" of the Obama administration.

emmett
05-01-2009, 07:21 PM
Twas once a long nosed vice pres candidate name of Biden
Whose chopper was "forced down" in which he was ridin
So he got busy and made up a wonderful tale
About an attack that was soon proved to have failed
And as usual the gap between fable and the truth...did widen!

Jeff
05-01-2009, 10:02 PM
You misspelled 'misspell'. :poke:

LOL, ooo well you got the idea

sure does suck though, lol

red states rule
05-02-2009, 06:15 AM
Biden opens his mouth, and then the White House tells us what he really ment to say.

This could really turn out to be a fun four years, comedy wise. The whole destruction of the country makes for a bad hair day though.

red states rule
05-02-2009, 06:33 AM
Twas once a long nosed vice pres candidate name of Biden
Whose chopper was "forced down" in which he was ridin
So he got busy and made up a wonderful tale
About an attack that was soon proved to have failed
And as usual the gap between fable and the truth...did widen!

Biden was selected as VP is because he is the only person in Washington that can make Obama look smart.

mundame
05-02-2009, 08:42 AM
Biden was selected as VP is because he is the only person in Washington that can make Obama look smart.


I was thinking something like this yesterday.

Bush was overshadowed by his vice-president, and Obama probably decided to make sure no one would make invidious comparisons between him and his VP.

red states rule
05-02-2009, 08:45 AM
I was thinking something like this yesterday.

Bush was overshadowed by his vice-president, and Obama probably decided to make sure no one would make invidious comparisons between him and his VP.

Eh, Bush is no longer President. We were sold on the "change" so as to not have a third Bush term

I've come to the conclusion that Obama has Biden and Gibbs around to make him look smart. It has also been said that if you surround yourself with fatter friends, you'll look thin.

Same concept.

mundame
05-02-2009, 08:52 AM
... Gibbs around to make him look smart.

That Gibbs has a pugnacious disposition. I doubt he'll last long. I don't care for him.

red states rule
05-02-2009, 08:54 AM
That Gibbs has a pugnacious disposition. I doubt he'll last long. I don't care for him.

Remember, Obama is a product of Affirmative Action. His entire life he has been surrounded by people in business and academia that pat him on the head and tell him how wonderful he is, no matter what quality or amount of work he does. We should expect him to hire those same type of people that will tell him how wonderful he is.

At the Chicago law firm where he worked for a short time, some of the other lawyers were unhappy that he seemed to spend most of his time in his office with his feet up, writing his book on his laptop, while they did the real work.

This is also why he has such a thin skin and can't handle criticism. This is why he goes off on his childish rants about the Tea Parties and Fox News. Criticism is new to him.

Biden is the same way. Several time he has insulted voters who openly disagreed with him, and talked about how much smarter he is then the rest of us