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Little-Acorn
03-17-2009, 07:05 PM
Looks like instead of training pilots to carry guns and use them safely on airliners vulnerable to terrorist takeover, President Obama would rather spend the money on hiring bureaucrats to guard us against... the pilots.

Election have consequences. This is one of them.

(sigh) Four more years.

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/17/guns-on-a-plane-obama-secretly-ends-program-that-l/

EDITORIAL: Guns on a plane
Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

Tuesday, March 17, 2009

After the September 11 attacks, commercial airline pilots were allowed to carry guns if they completed a federal-safety program. No longer would unarmed pilots be defenseless as remorseless hijackers seized control of aircraft and rammed them into buildings.

Now President Obama is quietly ending the federal firearms program, risking public safety on airlines in the name of an anti-gun ideology.

The Obama administration this past week diverted some $2 million from the pilot training program to hire more supervisory staff, who will engage in field inspections of pilots.

This looks like completely unnecessary harassment of the pilots. The 12,000 Federal Flight Deck Officers, the pilots who have been approved to carry guns, are reported to have the best behavior of any federal law enforcement agency. There are no cases where any of them has improperly brandished or used a gun. There are just a few cases where officers have improperly used their IDs.

Fewer than one percent of the officers have any administrative actions brought against them and, we are told, virtually all of those cases “are trumped up.”

Take a case against one flight officer who had visited the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles within the last few weeks. While there, the pilot noticed that federal law enforcement officers can, with the approval of a superior, obtain a license plate that cannot be traced, a key safety feature for law enforcement personnel. So the pilot asked if, as a member of the federal program, he was eligible. The DMV staffer checked and said “no.” The next day administrative actions were brought against the pilot for “misrepresenting himself.” These are the kinds of cases that President Obama wants to investigate.

Since Mr. Obama's election, pilots have told us that the approval process for letting pilots carry guns on planes slowed significantly. Last week the problem went from bad to worse. Federal Flight Deck Officers - the pilots who have been approved to carry guns - indicate that the approval process has stalled out.

(snip)

Arming pilots after Sept. 11 was nothing new. Until the early 1960s, American commercial passenger pilots on any flight carrying U.S. mail were required to carry handguns. Indeed, U.S. pilots were still allowed to carry guns until as recently as 1987. There are no records that any of these pilots (either military or commercial) ever causing any significant problems.


(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL)

Silver
03-17-2009, 07:08 PM
Heres another one the slippery little asshole slipped in.....



Slick Barry slips one through with little to no media coverage....
so quiet, so underhanded, so blatant a union payoff.....

ordered the use of union labor for federal construction projects

I lost the link so I'll delete the text....

glockmail
03-17-2009, 07:11 PM
Shouldn't this require an act of the House, since it is in effect an increase in the budget?

Little-Acorn
03-17-2009, 07:13 PM
Shouldn't this require an act of the House, since it is in effect an increase in the budget?

Sounds like he's just transferring funds from the pilot-training program to the pilot-watching program. Not an increase per se. Just a gutting of a program he doesn't support, to fund one he does support.

DannyR
03-17-2009, 07:13 PM
Its a shame, but I saw it coming since a year ago when this incident made the news:


http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-032308-sjf-gunonplane.1c4cabd1.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-03-26-339507393_x.htm

One idiot ruins it for everyone.

Kathianne
03-17-2009, 07:14 PM
Heres another one the slippery little asshole slipped in.....



Slick Barry slips one through with little to no media coverage....
so quiet, so underhanded, so blatant a union payoff.....

February 9, 2009

While everyone is talking about the pork laden stimulus that Obama and many Democrats in Congress are pushing, President Obama very quietly signed a pro union executive order on Friday. It ordered the use of union labor for federal construction projects. This is one of the most blatant payoffs I have ever seen.

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele has made the following statement.

"President Obama's executive order will drive up the cost of government at a time when we should be doing everything possible to save taxpayer dollars. Federal contracts should go to the businesses that can offer taxpayers the best value - not just the unions who supported the Democrats' campaigns last year. Quietly signing executive orders to payback campaign backers undermines Obama promise to change Washington. It is a disappointment for Americans hoping for more transparency and less politics as usual in Washington."

I would have to agree with everything the chairman said. It is nothing less than a payoff to the unions who supported his campaign with both money and troops. And the fact that it was done with no media coverage shows that he once again is trying to slip one by Americans, which is anything but transparent.

Please post a link when citing. I found this one:

http://thesteadyconservative.com/wordpress/2009/02/09/president-obama-quietly-signs-pro-union-executive-order/

glockmail
03-17-2009, 07:17 PM
Sounds like he's just transferring funds from the pilot-training program to the pilot-watching program. Not an increase per se. Just a gutting of a program he doesn't support, to fund one he does support. That doesn't sound Constitutional. Only Congress can allocate funds, right?

Little-Acorn
03-17-2009, 07:21 PM
That doesn't sound Constitutional. Only Congress can allocate funds, right?

Not sure it applies here, for the reason I cited.

But we all know how concerned the Democrats are, about sticking to the letter and spirit of the Constitution, don't we!? :laugh2:

:dance:

sgtdmski
03-18-2009, 03:53 AM
ALERT ALERT ALERT

Person with gun, MUST BE A CRIMINAL, we better monitor and investigate.

dmk