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emmett
03-14-2009, 06:08 PM
Was he a genius or a madman?
I say genius, what say ye!
Kathianne
03-14-2009, 06:11 PM
Was he a genius or a madman?
I say genius, what say ye!
I knew I'd heard the name Tesla. As for genius or madman, haven't a clue. Wish physics was my expertise, but if it were, better it be something more profitable. ;)
DannyR
03-14-2009, 06:19 PM
A vampire. Ok, according to the TV show Sanctuary. ;-)
I think he's certainly a genius. His numerous theories and inventions attest to that.
I wouldn't call him a madman. In his prime he was eccentric and had several phobias and manias, but I'd not call him a madman.
Mr. P
03-14-2009, 06:31 PM
Was he a genius or a madman?
I say genius, what say ye!
Aren't all genius scientist thought to be madmen by many? Well, some think so anyway...Bell, Edison, Einstein, Oppenheimer, the Wright Brothers...All madmen.
Sure am happy I have power, radio, a phone and my daughter just landed safely on one of them flyin machines. :beer:
emmett
03-14-2009, 07:01 PM
I was just watching a segment on him on Modern marvels (one of my favorite shows) and thought he would make an interesting conversation piece.
There are some that believe his papers, which were confiscated by the Government when he died in the 40's, contained information that would lead to the creation of a sound powered death ray. It has been rumored as well that what really takes place at Area 51 is and are theoretical ideas of his, still being conducted such as shooting planes out of the sky with ..."sound".
He was Edison's nemesis. Had it not been for Tesla, we would be using DC power in our homes.
Also see the new "Tesla" car being manufactured in California now. Goes from 0 to 60 in 3.8 seconds. Whoa! 200 miles on a charge.
The phospherescent bulb was Tesla.
The AC generator, hell just go pull him up. Wow...... Basically he made the modern world what it is today but yet I don't remember being taught about him in school yet Edison was shoved doen our throats. Frankly Edison was stuck on himself and not concerned about the betterment of man at all.
As a young man, Tesla was a protege of Edison. After Edison refused to pay him a share of a patent he had made for him Tesla left and dug ditches in New York until he had saved enough money for more experiments. It's a great story
CockySOB
03-14-2009, 07:16 PM
Nikola Tesla was a genius. Period.
emmett
03-14-2009, 07:34 PM
I think so.
CockySOB
03-15-2009, 07:14 AM
I think so.
One of his more interesting areas of research was the tapping of the electrostatic potential of the Earth to generate "free" energy. If you want to read more on Tesla, look up information on Tom Bearden.
emmett
03-16-2009, 12:16 PM
One of his more interesting areas of research was the tapping of the electrostatic potential of the Earth to generate "free" energy. If you want to read more on Tesla, look up information on Tom Bearden.
Excellent!
Monkeybone
03-16-2009, 01:05 PM
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tesla.html
Psychoblues
03-22-2009, 09:44 PM
Tesla is the genuine daddy of all that we know about electricity in 2009. Edison was a liar and not surprisingly a capitalist.
God Bless Nickolia Tesla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The GOP,,,the party of fear and loathing,,,sad,,,,
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
Psychoblues
04-08-2009, 10:32 PM
I didn't figure anyone would want to hear about or research any of that!!!!!!!!!!!!
The GOP,,,the party of fear and loathing,,,sad,,,,
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
Nukeman
04-09-2009, 10:00 AM
I didn't figure anyone would want to hear about or research any of that!!!!!!!!!!!!
The GOP,,,the party of fear and loathing,,,sad,,,,
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
Some of us already KNOW about Tesla and his advances, really don't have to discuss it on a discussion board.
Monkeybone
04-09-2009, 11:40 AM
He was probably refering to the Edison remark, which nothing was shown to back up the claim.
Nukeman
04-09-2009, 01:27 PM
He was probably refering to the Edison remark, which nothing was shown to back up the claim.
Ohh Edison was a very inteligent guy he was also VERY RUTHLESS and very much a capitalist.... If not for Tesla we would not have AC but only DC and we would have to have local electric stations or a "jump" station about every mile for the electric lines.....
Edison attempted to ruin Tesla and discredit him EVERY chance he could, fortunately Tesla was selfless in his work (a little wacked).
Kathianne
04-09-2009, 06:13 PM
Ohh Edison was a very inteligent guy he was also VERY RUTHLESS and very much a capitalist.... If not for Tesla we would not have AC but only DC and we would have to have local electric stations or a "jump" station about every mile for the electric lines.....
Edison attempted to ruin Tesla and discredit him EVERY chance he could, fortunately Tesla was selfless in his work (a little wacked).
LOL! Going to have to do more reading on the guy. Certainly have heard of him, but Edison certainly was everything you said.
Little-Acorn
04-09-2009, 07:16 PM
He was probably refering to the Edison remark, which nothing was shown to back up the claim.
You expected little psycho to back up and insult aimed at capitalists, with FACTS???
:lol:
emmett
04-09-2009, 08:55 PM
Tesla was also a capitolist. Very much so! Edison was smart but greedy. Tesla was smart and willing to take great risks in exploration. Both contributed. Basically Tesla PUNKED Edison in every way!
Kathianne
04-09-2009, 09:00 PM
Tesla was also a capitolist. Very much so! Edison was smart but greedy. Tesla was smart and willing to take great risks in exploration. Both contributed. Basically Tesla PUNKED Edison in every way!
Not in every way. Who do kids study in school. ;)
emmett
04-09-2009, 09:13 PM
Not in every way. Who do kids study in school. ;)
Are you referring to US Government schools?
Got:laugh2:cha!
Kathianne
04-09-2009, 10:04 PM
Are you referring to US Government schools?
Got:laugh2:cha!
What are government schools? I'm in a private school, still subject to state goals and objectives.
emmett
04-09-2009, 10:56 PM
I know that. Come on. Thing is though if you research Tesla you will see that it should be he that children are learning about, the fact that they are not demonstrates a serious flaw in out education system. He punked Edison at every turn. Edison insisted we use DC power Kathy. Just that one fact alone shows what a fool he actually was. Just a fool! Plain and simple.
When proven wrong, as he was , since we use AC (Alternating Current), he refused to admit he was wrong. Such is the mistake of the ages, not being able to admit when one is wrong.
Tesla was a strange bird and would make for much more interesting learning I would think than Edison as well. My 9th Grade Science teacher, Mr. Burton, a coach at my High School who was not thought much of acedemically, did in fact teach his students about Tesla. I enjoyed it very much. Was interesting to actually know where our electricity REALLY came from instead of the fable being taught in schools.
Seekers of information like to arrive at the truth. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that. You could no doubt "SCHOOL" us all in that. I would recommend some research into this subject and then you will see why everyone seems to concur in this matter. You'll enjoy the research I'm sure.
Kathianne
04-09-2009, 11:12 PM
What are government schools? I'm in a private school, still subject to state goals and objectives.
Not to mention what the texts teach.
To bring Tesla in would be lecture. I've got to decide to do so.
Nukeman
04-10-2009, 06:23 AM
Not to mention what the texts teach.
To bring Tesla in would be lecture. I've got to decide to do so.Actually the history channel (I think) has a great segment on Tesla. You should be able to buy that and show it to your class. It goes into detail about the "fued" between Tesla and Edison......
Kathianne
04-10-2009, 07:14 AM
Actually the history channel (I think) has a great segment on Tesla. You should be able to buy that and show it to your class. It goes into detail about the "fued" between Tesla and Edison......
Actually I believe that Emmett began the discussion with having seen this on History Channel. As I said, I'd have to decide that it was worth bringing in the enrichment, meaning figuring out why Tesla has been left out of texts to begin with. Seriously, right now, I've not a clue. On the other hand, I doubt very much that would be true of the authors of the texts, thus there is a reason. May or may not be a good reason.
History Channel has some very good things on it, also some very bad history. I liked it much more years ago. Kind of reminding me of FOX, someone took a very good product, thought they could 'improve' it by reaching for some audience beyond them. History Channel was reaching for 'the masses.' Fox seems to be going for the extreme right wing now.
Nukeman
04-10-2009, 08:20 AM
Actually I believe that Emmett began the discussion with having seen this on History Channel. As I said, I'd have to decide that it was worth brining in the enrichment, meaning figuring out why Tesla has been left out of texts to begin with. Seriously, right now, I've not a clue. On the other hand, I doubt very much that would be true of the authors of the texts, thus there is a reason. May or may not be a good reason.
History Channel has some very good things on it, also some very bad history. I liked it much more years ago. Kind of reminding me of FOX, someone took a very good product, thought they could 'improve' it by reaching for some audience beyond them. History Channel was reaching for 'the masses.' Fox seems to be going for the extreme right wing now.
On a side note about Tesla. Marconii was credited with the invention of the radio! He used all of Telsa's patented parts to make it after visiting with Tesla. they have now changed it so Tesla "invented" the radio.
remember history is written by the winners. tesla in his later years died poor and very disturbed, Edison on the other hand was a showman to the end and played to the public...
Kathianne
04-10-2009, 08:45 AM
When so many people whom I admire say the same thing, makes me figure it's worth my time to do some reading. I will. It's too late for this year's class, were through the 'inventors.' ;)
emmett
04-10-2009, 09:11 AM
Kathy is right. I was watching The History Channel one day when the special came on. I ws already familiar with Tesla, as mentioned my teacher in school was obviously a fan and had an interest in setting the record straight for his students.
Tesla did end his life as a recluse and broken. Allot of his ideas were way out there. Waaaay out there. Of course when you look at some of the other inventors they had some way out there ideas also.
Kathianne
04-10-2009, 09:22 AM
Ok, education has begun. :laugh2:
http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~bogdan/tesla/bio.htm
Kathianne
04-10-2009, 09:28 AM
Wow! Patents held:
http://web.mit.edu/most/www/ser/Tesla1/alpha_tesla.html
emmett
04-10-2009, 09:48 AM
Yes Kathy, I am perplexed at the inaccuracy of American Education as it applies to inventions which are credited to others. Tesla basically invented everything. I'm bafoozled literally at the lack of credit given this obvious genius.
His mistake was selling his ideas / patents to others. Since he was the pioneer he was I assume his philosophy was that he looked to move on to other things realizing that at the time the world was endless as to the things that still needed research. Must have been a time issue as well.
In my opinion, his greatest invention, the Tesla Coil, which could transfer AC through the air (amazing in itself), was never perfected. We of course see it as impossible but it worked and he proved it. Imagine a world without powerlines.
I think maybe it was due to the fact that he was a foriegner that places him where he is in American history. In Serbia, he is on money.
emmett
04-10-2009, 09:52 AM
Lexi and I are planning to build a small Tesla coil for her next years Science Fair project. I am hoping it stimulates some interesting dialogue. This will give us lots of time to study this guy and have her well prepared to answer questions I am sure she will recieve.
Incidentally, Lexi and I went to UGA yesterday and went through the School of Vetenary medicine. She had a blast seeing the students and the college way of life around Broad St (resturants, shops etc,..). She is on spring break so I have her and Tyler all week long during the day. We're about to head out now and see what we can get into.
Kathianne
04-10-2009, 09:56 AM
In fairness, all things that come to pass were usually, if not always, based upon the ideas of others. Selling his patents was probably how he got the money needed to set up his own 'factory for ideas' very much like Edison and Westinghouse did.
emmett
04-10-2009, 10:31 AM
In fairness, all things that come to pass were usually, if not always, based upon the ideas of others. Selling his patents was probably how he got the money needed to set up his own 'factory for ideas' very much like Edison and Westinghouse did.
George Westinghouse was basically a Tesla ally. He took issue with Edison in fact and sided with Tesla on the theory of AC. This led to his financing of Tesla's project to light the Fair in 1893 with AC power. Of course, it worked and thereby disproved Edison's claim that Tesla would never be able to harness the power to do so. Basically it made an idiot of Edison and clearly allowed Tesla to win the "Current War".
Nukeman
04-10-2009, 11:58 AM
Tesla was a socialist, like Sara Palan and Newt Gingrich.This has WHAT to do with the conversation!!!!!!!!!?????????
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nukeman
04-10-2009, 12:03 PM
George Westinghouse was basically a Tesla ally. He took issue with Edison in fact and sided with Tesla on the theory of AC. This led to his financing of Tesla's project to light the Fair in 1893 with AC power. Of course, it worked and thereby disproved Edison's claim that Tesla would never be able to harness the power to do so. Basically it made an idiot of Edison and clearly allowed Tesla to win the "Current War".
Don't forget that Edison also electrocuted an elephant to show the dangers of AC current!!!! He tried desperatley to disgrace Tesla......
emmett
04-10-2009, 01:38 PM
Don't forget that Edison also electrocuted an elephant to show the dangers of AC current!!!! He tried desperatley to disgrace Tesla......
Yes...and to no avail. Most of Edison's argument against AC was it's danger. Edison was a jack ass, a liar and in the end just a fool for not having worked together with Tesla so as to bring about the best of the collective minds. The fact that he ended up with all the credit makes no difference to someone who knows better.
Kathianne
04-11-2009, 05:00 AM
George Westinghouse was basically a Tesla ally. He took issue with Edison in fact and sided with Tesla on the theory of AC. This led to his financing of Tesla's project to light the Fair in 1893 with AC power. Of course, it worked and thereby disproved Edison's claim that Tesla would never be able to harness the power to do so. Basically it made an idiot of Edison and clearly allowed Tesla to win the "Current War".
From the first site I posted, you can find quotes of Tesla regarding Edison, Westinghouse, and others. Edison's and Tesla's styles were very different. Tesla was a 'visionary', likely got bored with a project sooner than later; while Edison was a bit of a bore from what Tesla wrote and nasty as many others wrote. :laugh2: However, no one made an 'idiot' out of Edison, that's a non-starter.
emmett
04-11-2009, 08:58 AM
Nikola Tesla
In 1931, under the financing of Pierce-Arrow and George Westinghouse, a 1931 Pierce-Arrow was selected to be tested at the factory grounds in Buffalo, N.Y. The standard internal combustion engine was removed and an 80-H.P. 1800 r.p.m electric motor installed to the clutch and transmission. The A.C. motor measured 40 inches long and 30 inches in diameter and the power leads were left standing in the air - no external power source!
At the appointed time, Nikola Tesla arrived from New York City and inspected the Pierce-Arrow automobile. He then went to a local radio store and purchased a handful of tubes (12), wires and assorted resistors. A box measuring 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high was assembled housing the circuit. The box was placed on the front seat and had its wires connected to the air-cooled, brushless motor. Two rods 1/4" in diameter stuck out of the box about 3" in length.
Mr. Tesla got into the driver's seat, pushed the two rods in and stated, "We now have power". He put the car into gear and it moved forward! This vehicle, powered by an A.C. motor, was driven to speeds of 90 m.p.h. and performed better than any internal combustion engine of its day! One week was spent testing the vehicle. Several newspapers in Buffalo reported this test. When asked where the power came from, Tesla replied, "From the ethers all around us". Several people suggested that Tesla was mad and somehow in league with sinister forces of the universe. He became incensed, removed his mysterious box from the vehicle and returned to his laboratory in New York City. His secret died with him!
It is speculated that Nikola Tesla was able to somehow harness the earth's magnetic field that encompasses our planet. And, he somehow was able to draw tremendous amounts of power by cutting these lines of force or causing them to be multiplied together. The exact nature of his device remains a mystery but it did actually function by powering the 80 h.p. A.C. motor in the Pierce-Arrow at speeds up to 90 m.p.h. and no recharging was ever necessary.
Psychoblues
04-11-2009, 01:30 PM
You are aware, emmie, that the Thomas Edison display in the Smithsonian is 90% comprised of Tesla appararti, aren't you? Although many have complained and proven outright the fallacies of the displays the politics of Edison prevail on this issue. It really is sickening to behold such abuse of power and knowledge!!!!!!!!!!!
The GOP,,,the party of fear and loathing,,,sad,,,,
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
Kathianne
04-11-2009, 05:20 PM
Nikola Tesla
In 1931, under the financing of Pierce-Arrow and George Westinghouse, a 1931 Pierce-Arrow was selected to be tested at the factory grounds in Buffalo, N.Y. The standard internal combustion engine was removed and an 80-H.P. 1800 r.p.m electric motor installed to the clutch and transmission. The A.C. motor measured 40 inches long and 30 inches in diameter and the power leads were left standing in the air - no external power source!
...
As I said, from what I've been reading over the past two days, Edison was more to the applied science and Tesla into visionary. An MIT related post about Edison says about the same thing:
http://web.mit.edu/invent/iow/edison.html
...Edison installed the first reliable, durable electric lights in his own labs, and later built the first public power station, in Manhattan's financial district (1882). However, Edison's DC-current system had only a three-mile range, and was later superseded by Westinghouse's and Tesla's AC-current system.
By that time, Edison had built a new and much bigger research complex (now a National Monument) in West Orange, New Jersey. There his first project was to redesign his phonograph, in light of recent improvements by others. Edison soon marketed a wax-cylinder phonograph as a dictation machine (1888), and later, as a musical home entertainment system (1896). These commercial efforts were, by and large, failures, but Edison continued to refine his favorite invention into the 1920s.
In 1889, an associate, William Dickson, working at Edison's direction, invented the celluloid-strip motion picture camera and projector (1889) --- whose silent movies were viewed inside the machine, through a peephole. Although Edison later broke with Dickson, George Eastman and others helped Edison to establish the basis of the motion picture industry.
After 1911, Edison was mainly dissatisfied in his work, feeling that many of his ideas were being ignored or worse yet, stolen. Throughout the '20s, he also had poor health. He died on October 18, 1931, at the age of 84.
In total, Edison accumulated 1,093 US patents. Only a few inventors have earned half as many. Edison inventions not mentioned above include: the printing telegraph, the electric "stencil pen," a magnetic mining process, an electrical torpedo, a synthetic rubber, and improved alkaline batteries, cement mixers, and microphones.
It must be said that Edison used other inventors' ideas much more freely than he shared his own. For example, the wax cylinder phonograph was first patented by Chichester A. Bell and Charles Sumner Tainter (1886), whose offer of a joint venture Edison rejected; the disc "gramophone" was first patented by Emile Berliner (1887); and even the so-called "Edison Effect," the observed emission of electrons from a hot filament, was actually discovered by an Edison engineer named William J. Hammer (1883).
But nothing can gainsay the tremendous effect that Edison's career as a whole has had on our everyday lives. By the volume, variety and spectacularity of his inventions, Edison more than any other person made it seem like no miracle was beyond the reach of modern American technology. As an inspiration to aspiring engineers and inventors, then as now, Edison is peerless. Indeed, above all others, as his Congressional Medal of Honor certificate declared: "He illuminated the path of progress by his inventions."
Thus Tesla's quotations on Edison, two men of such different emphasis and scientific values were destined not to work together long:
Tesla on Thomas A. Edison
``If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search.''
``I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.''
New York Times, October 19, 1931
emmett
04-12-2009, 10:18 PM
Interesting. I still say Tesla "PUNKED" Edison. Today we turn on electricity produced at the light switch by AC current, not DC which Edison was willing to shock elephants to death to prove was better. Edison was wrong...Tesla was right. "PUNKED".
The more I keep learning about Edison in this recent research of Tesla, the less I think of him and our educational system for not teaching us the "truth".
Kathianne
04-13-2009, 07:04 AM
Interesting. I still say Tesla "PUNKED" Edison. Today we turn on electricity produced at the light switch by AC current, not DC which Edison was willing to shock elephants to death to prove was better. Edison was wrong...Tesla was right. "PUNKED".
The more I keep learning about Edison in this recent research of Tesla, the less I think of him and our educational system for not teaching us the "truth".
From all accounts I've read regarding Edison over many years, he was a petty, cheap, vindictive and brilliant man. His inventions and the patents he held, made all of our lives better. Edison was into buying patents, not selling. Sort of the Paul McCartney of his day, science instead of music though.
To say Tesla 'punked' Edison for being right about AC/DC is fine, in that one area. From what I've seen so far, Tesla was still in Europe while Edison was already famous and well-to-do in America, with a growing reputation in Europe. Edison reputation wasn't built from 'stealing Tesla's ideas'. In fact, one could say that since Tesla his the US from Europe with several pennies in his pocket, that Edison immediately took him into his 'factory' was pretty nice.
The most cursory look at the men's personalities and scientific mindsets would lead a non-psychologist to recognize they wouldn't work well together. Imagine if they didn't each have the personalities given? With Tesla's ideas and Edison's work ethic, how many more ideas may have been brought to fruition?
One alone doesn't have to be right and the other wrong. My guess is there's something here I'm missing. Tesla gets nearly as many hits from edu. search as Edison, within 10k hits. His ideas though are not the ones most studied in primary and secondary school. Inventors for the most part are studied in social science, Edison is correctly credited with incandescent light bulb and phonograph, as well as his scientific laboratory. AC/DC is discussed in science, whether or not Tesla comes up then? I wouldn't remember, though from the hits I've seen, seems that he is mentioned there. From schools with 'heavy' engineering reps: Penn, MIT, U of I, etc., lots of papers.
Da Vinci is not credited with the 'flying machine' drawings in discussions about the Wright Brothers, though it was obvious they borrowed heavily from those drawings. However, in art classes, those drawings are credited to him and certainly there isn't an aeronautical engineer that is unaware of them. That doesn't mean "Da Vinci" punked the Wright Bros., though certainly saved them or someone else literally years in bringing the idea to fruition.
I'm rambling now, bottom line, my thinking is along the lines of it takes several great minds, each with a variety of brilliance to make most ideas reality. What we read in texts are usually the ones that bring the idea to market.
emmett
04-13-2009, 10:27 AM
Not rambling at all my dear. I'm beginning to see the brilliance of a great teacher surfacing in this regard frankly.
CORRECTION: I believe Tesla invented the incandescent light bulb.
I must admit that while I was subject to "some" information about Tesla by a very good teacher in school, I have been learning allot myself over the past two weeks. I was especially disturbed to learn about Edison electrocuting an elephant in an attempt to discredit Tesla's AC theories. Schools did not teach us this. I find this deploreable and unexceptable behavior. A mouse would have worked just fine.
I know Edison made groundbreaking contributions to our way of life today. Indeed he was a very successful man by the time Tesla (younger) came to the United States. I am also aware that Tesla was borderline mad. His rantings about space aliens and recieving communications from other universes was a bit out there. Then again, I assume folks thought DaVinci was out there too and like you mentioned he made some pretty interesting predictions and drawings waaaay before his ideas could be even thought conceivable.
I only posted this thread because I thought it interesting that a man who had made such valuable contributions was a relative unknown to most folks. In the last two weeks I have, like I tend to do, made Tesla the subject of some trivia questions to friends and folks around town. Very few knew who he was and no one knew he was the father of AC. Not a single person. I probably asked the question of 20 to 25 people. Of course everyone thought Edison was.
In closing my final is this. Tesla seemed more interested in advancing technology for mankind. Edison seemed to be interested more in money. Both men were egotists for sure as are so many who acheive the things they did. Tesla was a bit more of a humanitarian, Edison in my opinion was an asshole. And lastly, I think of what they could have done together, had they had been able to look past the differences and shown the necessary respect for each others skills and ability. Shame!
Psychoblues
04-14-2009, 12:37 AM
I'd say kitty just "punk'd" you, emmie. Please carry on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a very cool converse in my honest opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!
The GOP,,,the party of fear and loathing,,,sad,,,,
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
sam920225
04-27-2009, 08:43 PM
K guys after reading a lil of your conversations and skimmin through the rest i figured id clear up some of your confusion. Tesla did not crete the incandescent light bulb. Edison is credited with the incandescent light bulb, however The glory should belong to Henry Woodward and Mathew Evans, pals in Toronto in the 1870s.
Tesla arrived in New York City at the age of twenty-eight with very little money and a letter of introduction from one of Edison’s business associates in Europe. Edison immediately hired Tesla to make improvements on his DC generation plants. Tesla said that Edison offered him $50,000 if he was successful, maybe because edison believed it was impossible, but Tesla was a broke immigrant and agreed to help at the thought of so much money. Several months after Tesla announced to Edison he was finished. Edison explained that the bid of $50,000 had been made as a joke. "When you become a full-fledged American you will appreciate an American joke," Edison said. Tesla immediately resigned.
Edison was not interested in AC current and Tesla did not take much interest in DC. Edison was set on making DC the way to go and he beleived AC was alot more dangerous this could have had a lil to do with his dislike for Tesla. but i beleive he shocked that elephant out of jealousy. He said he shocked it to show how dangerous AC current was. HE could have used something smaller like amouse however this would not have proved hipoint it would not take nearly as much to fry a mouse than it would have to fry a mighty animal such as an elephant it added to his side by using such a large animal.
emmett
04-27-2009, 09:49 PM
SIZE="4"]K guys after reading a lil of your conversations and skimmin through the rest i figured id clear up some of your confusion. Tesla did not crete the incandescent light bulb. Edison is credited with the incandescent light bulb, however The glory should belong to Henry Woodward and Mathew Evans, pals in Toronto in the 1870s.
Tesla arrived in New York City at the age of twenty-eight with very little money and a letter of introduction from one of Edison’s business associates in Europe. Edison immediately hired Tesla to make improvements on his DC generation plants. Tesla said that Edison offered him $50,000 if he was successful, maybe because edison believed it was impossible, but Tesla was a broke immigrant and agreed to help at the thought of so much money. Several months after Tesla announced to Edison he was finished. Edison explained that the bid of $50,000 had been made as a joke. "When you become a full-fledged American you will appreciate an American joke," Edison said. Tesla immediately resigned.
Edison was not interested in AC current and Tesla did not take much interest in DC. Edison was set on making DC the way to go and he beleived AC was alot more dangerous this could have had a lil to do with his dislike for Tesla. but i beleive he shocked that elephant out of jealousy. He said he shocked it to show how dangerous AC current was. HE could have used something smaller like amouse however this would not have proved hipoint it would not take nearly as much to fry a mouse than it would have to fry a mighty animal such as an elephant it added to his side by using such a large animal.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
And your point is.......................
hjmick
04-27-2009, 10:36 PM
And your point is.......................
He's really really smart...
Mr. P
04-27-2009, 10:49 PM
He's really really smart...
:laugh2: Nahhh...a student, wants to impress first shot outta the barrel...Impressed? Not me. :laugh2:
emmett
04-28-2009, 02:29 AM
I've read what he wrote somewhere. He copied it word ver batim. I believe you are dead right. Student.
Kathianne
04-28-2009, 05:01 AM
I've read what he wrote somewhere. He copied it word ver batim. I believe you are dead right. Student.
Yep, copy & paste from one of my links. LOL! Plagarism, in large font & bolded. :laugh2: Couldn't even get that right, had to edit so the full effect could be detected. :coffee:
emmett
04-28-2009, 09:43 AM
Yep, copy & paste from one of my links. LOL! Plagarism, in large font & bolded. :laugh2: Couldn't even get that right, had to edit so the full effect could be detected. :coffee:
(Emmett says with strong southern drawl)
Why Miss Katha....I do beleeve you arrre correcT my deeer!:laugh2:
Little-Acorn
04-28-2009, 11:30 AM
Yep, copy & paste from one of my links. LOL! Plagarism, in large font & bolded. :laugh2: Couldn't even get that right, had to edit so the full effect could be detected. :coffee:
Kathianne, which link?
emmett
04-30-2009, 11:05 PM
Funny....the only post the guy ever posted too. Hmmm... comes on, does a copy and paste on my thread, splits! (Emmett scratches head)
Kathianne
05-01-2009, 05:28 AM
Kathianne, which link?
As I said, one of the earlier ones. He went, c & p, then bolted.
Psychoblues
05-07-2009, 01:07 AM
Obviously you have something to say, emmie!!!!!!!!!!! You'er killing me with pm's, warnings, and irrelavant posts. If you have any discussion please put it forth, my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Tesla can teach both of us, don't you know?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!??
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
emmett
05-07-2009, 01:14 AM
Obviously you have something to say, emmie!!!!!!!!!!! You'er killing me with pm's, warnings, and irrelavant posts. If you have any discussion please put it forth, my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Tesla can teach both of us, don't you know?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!??
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
You PMed me first ace and yes I am sure we could have learned much from Mr. Tesla. He was radical enough and intelligent enough of a pioneer to capture the fascination of either you or I. I'm sure we both agree on that.
Psychoblues
05-07-2009, 01:25 AM
Absolutely not, emmie. I did not PM you first but you obviously have something to say.
You PMed me first ace and yes I am sure we could have learned much from Mr. Tesla. He was radical enough and intelligent enough of a pioneer to capture the fascination of either you or I. I'm sure we both agree on that.
But, if lying about who did what and when is your game then poor ol' Nikoli doesn't have a prayers chance in hell.
Carry on, cowgirl!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
emmett
05-07-2009, 01:34 AM
Absolutely not, emmie. I did not PM you first but you obviously have something to say.
But, if lying about who did what and when is your game then poor ol' Nikoli doesn't have a prayers chance in hell.
Carry on, cowgirl!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
:lol:
Psychoblues
05-07-2009, 01:38 AM
:lol::lol::lol:
:lol:
Back at you, cowgirl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
emmett
05-13-2009, 10:38 PM
I've never rode a cow in my life.
Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 12:30 AM
Wut's that, cowgirl?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?!?
I've never rode a cow in my life.
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 03:09 AM
ever ridden a horse pb
those things are fucking TANKS on feet
Wut's that, cowgirl?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?!?
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 04:03 AM
I am very well trained and experienced in casual horseback riding, marteen.
ever ridden a horse pb
those things are fucking TANKS on feet
Wuts your problem?!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!
:beer::cheers2::beer:
Psychoblues
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