Obama: Liar-in-Chief

[hjmick]

The Obama-Biden Plan:

End the Practice of Writing Legislation Behind Closed Doors: As president, Barack Obama will restore the American people's trust in their government by making government more open and transparent. Obama will work to reform congressional rules to require all legislative sessions, including committee mark-ups and conference committees, to be conducted in public. By making these practices public, the American people will be able to hold their leaders accountable for wasteful spending and lawmakers won't be able to slip favors for lobbyists into bills at the last minute. (http://change.gov/agenda/ethics_agenda/)



Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30667)
by Connie Hair
02/11/2009

Republicans have caught the Democrats in a midnight “stimulus” power play that seeks to cut Republican conferees out of the House-Senate negotiations to resolve a final version of the Obama “stimulus” package. Staff members from the offices of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) met last night to put together the “stimulus” conference report.

They intend to attempt to shove this $1.3 trillion spending bill through in the dead of the night without Republican input so floor action can take place in both chambers on Thursday.

I spoke with House Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence (R-Ind.) moments ago about this latest version of Democratic “bipartisanship.” Pence told me, “I think the American people deserve to know that legislation that would comprise an amount equal to the entire discretionary budget of the United States of America is being crafted without a single House Republican in the room.”

Some Republicans reportedly were in the late-night conference. But -- at least from the Senate -- the official Republican conferees were excluded. HUMAN EVENTS has received e-mail confirmations from the staffs of both Sens. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) and John Thune (R-S.D.) saying that they had no participation in the conference.

Yepper, change you can believe in... if you are a complete fool. As I have said all along, nothing special about Obama. Just another politician saying whatever he needs to in order to get elected.

[red states rule]

Since Dems are showing all of us their version of bipartisanship, Dems own this bill - and wil own the results

UNLESS, the economy gets worse. Then Dems can pick an excuse (or mix and match to get desired protection for the Dem party)


1) Bush screwed it up so badly, there was no real hope.

2) It wasn't big enough and done quickly enough (aka the Republicans should have just rolled over immediately)

3) It will take a few more of these packages for things to work and Obama needs to stay in about 12 years (or longer) like FDR did in order to fix this problem

[Little-Acorn]

Looks like the trend is continuing today.

Apparently Republicans were scheduled to meet with Democrats to work on the compromise for the bill. The meeting was scheduled for 3:00 PM today.

But then it was announced that a deal had been reached on the compromise bill... at noon, three hours before Republicans would be allowed to meet and work on it.

When, oh when will Republicans learn what happens when you take Democrats' word that they will "be nice"?

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http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20090211135318.aspx

Congressman Gives Speech in Front of Pelosi's Office: 'There Are More Shady Deals Going on Behind Closed Doors'

Chairman of Republican Study Committee Rep. Tom Price blasts congressional leaders for not making the stimulus bill negotiations open to the public.

by Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
2/11/2009 1:59:36 PM

President Barack Obama has proclaimed his administration will be more open than the previous administration. However, his counterparts in the House and the Senate aren’t following suit.

The Washington Post has reported that negotiations between House and Senate Democrats have resulted in a stimulus bill with a price tag of “about $789.5 billion.” This agreement raised the ire of Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., and he went outside of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office to express it.

“My name’s Tom Price and I represent the Sixth District of Georgia and [am] the privileged chair of the Republican Study Committee,” Price said. “It’s now noon on Wednesday. I’m standing outside the office of the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. The door is closed. We just heard news break there’s been an agreement between the House and the Senate on the non-stimulus bill."

Negotiators were slated to meet later in the day. However, since news of a deal was leaked to the media, Price questioned if there were “shady deals” going on.

“It’s curious because Republicans were invited to a meeting they said at 3 o’clock this afternoon,” Price continued. “What this means is there are more shady deals going on behind closed doors -- without the public, without Republicans in attendance.”

The Georgia congressman had also called on congressional leaders to televise the House-Senate negotiations. However, as much as the press has helped the Obama administration trumpet a new era of transparency, there has been little call from the television media for these negotiations to be televised publicly.

“As the House and Senate move to negotiate the final text of the so-called stimulus bill, I have called on Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to make good on that promise and allow any and all House and Senate negotiations to take place in an open and public forum,” Price wrote in a Feb. 11 blog post for Red State. “By allowing television cameras in the room as negotiations take place, we can provide the transparency American taxpayers expect.”

[red states rule]

It has always been the dream of libs to tear America down to the level of Europe,and "level the playing field".

This bill has completed the process. The only good thing I can say about it is libs own it.

And Obama is betting his Presidency that it will improve the economy

[theHawk]

And Obama is betting his Presidency that it will improve the economy

Obama doesn't need the economy to improve, and he certainly isn't going to bet his Presidency on it. He'd much rather see the little people become more dependant on government. He can still use the "blame Bush" card, he has already referenced the "last eight years" for his shortcomings.

[red states rule]

Obama doesn't need the economy to improve, and he certainly isn't going to bet his Presidency on it. He'd much rather see the little people become more dependant on government. He can still use the "blame Bush" card, he has already referenced the "last eight years" for his shortcomings.

I am sure Obama and his supporters will blame Pres Bush. But Obama himself could be in Republican ads in 2010 and 2012


Obama stakes presidency on stimulus

President Obama on Tuesday for the first time staked his fledgling presidency on pulling the country from its economic crisis, promising dispirited Floridians that his stimulus plan will produce tangible results such as jobs and tuition credits or he'll be ousted from office in 2012.

Mr. Obama -- who earned a small victory when the Senate passed his $838 billion plan but then was hit with a big drop in the stock market -- was on the campaign trail again, using a town-hall meeting and one of the best weapons in his arsenal: himself.

Mr. Obama engagingly pushed his plan, joking that he would pull from the best ideas "whether it comes from a Democrat or a Republican or a vegetarian," acted as comforter in chief and, when asked about the country's notorious impatience, he strayed from his standard answer that the crisis won't be solved overnight.

"I expect to be judged by results and ... I'm not going to make any excuses," he said. "If stuff hasn't worked and people don't feel like I've led the country in the right direction, then -- you'll have a new president."

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/11/obama-stakes-presidency-on-stimulus-success/

[moderate democrat]

I am sure Obama and his supporters will blame Pres Bush. But Obama himself could be in Republican ads in 2010 and 2012


Obama stakes presidency on stimulus

President Obama on Tuesday for the first time staked his fledgling presidency on pulling the country from its economic crisis, promising dispirited Floridians that his stimulus plan will produce tangible results such as jobs and tuition credits or he'll be ousted from office in 2012.

Mr. Obama -- who earned a small victory when the Senate passed his $838 billion plan but then was hit with a big drop in the stock market -- was on the campaign trail again, using a town-hall meeting and one of the best weapons in his arsenal: himself.

Mr. Obama engagingly pushed his plan, joking that he would pull from the best ideas "whether it comes from a Democrat or a Republican or a vegetarian," acted as comforter in chief and, when asked about the country's notorious impatience, he strayed from his standard answer that the crisis won't be solved overnight.

"I expect to be judged by results and ... I'm not going to make any excuses," he said. "If stuff hasn't worked and people don't feel like I've led the country in the right direction, then -- you'll have a new president."

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/11/obama-stakes-presidency-on-stimulus-success/

Obama takes responsibility. Wouldn't it have been great if Bush had had the same sort of mature sense of grace?

[red states rule]

Obama takes responsibility. Wouldn't it have been great if Bush had had the same sort of mature sense of grace?

Eh, Pres Bush tried to stop the freefall before it happened with trying to reform Fannie and Freddie. You knew that, because Dems like Barney Frank screamed there was no problem with either of them - and no reform was needed

Back to Barry, you can count on Him and the Dems to try and spin their failure when this bill blows up in their faces

And you will be one the loyal foot soldiers who will be doing his part to spread the spin

[moderate democrat]

Eh, Pres Bush tried to stop the freefall before it happened with trying to reform Fannie and Freddie. You knew that, because Dems like Barney Frank screamed there was no problem with either of them - and no reform was needed

Back to Barry, you can count on Him and the Dems to try and spin their failure when this bill blows up in their faces

And you will be one the loyal foot soldiers who will be doing his part to spread the spin


I think Obama is clear that he will NOT try to spin anything... he laid the success or failure of the stimulus package squarely on his shoulders....

Bush, on the other hand, never admitted to EVER making a mistake.

[red states rule]

I think Obama is clear that he will NOT try to spin anything... he laid the success or failure of the stimulus package squarely on his shoulders....

Bush, on the other hand, never admitted to EVER making a mistake.

How many lies and broken promises so far to date?

I like the one where he promised NO PORK IN THE STIMULUS BILL

and yes Virgil, always go back to Bush - it is all you guys can do when trying to explain where the change is :laugh2:

[Yurt]

Obama takes responsibility. Wouldn't it have been great if Bush had had the same sort of mature sense of grace?

funny how you ignored the thread topic...that obama lied....

hmmm, seem to recall you don't like it when people do that

what do you think about obama's lie?

[red states rule]

funny how you ignored the thread topic...that obama lied....

hmmm, seem to recall you don't like it when people do that

what do you think about obama's lie?

He always checks party affiliation before commenting on liars. Dems get a pass, and others get attacked

[moderate democrat]

funny how you ignored the thread topic...that obama lied....

hmmm, seem to recall you don't like it when people do that

what do you think about obama's lie?


he didn't LIE about anything. He has been in office three weeks. He has not yet had time to implement all of his campaign promises...he said he would work on it. I don't see any evidence that he has abandoned this particular idea... only that he has not yet had time to implement it.

[actsnoblemartin]

I agree with you, 3 weeks is not enough time to judge his work, after a year sure, maybe 6 months. but not 3 weeks.



he didn't LIE about anything. He has been in office three weeks. He has not yet had time to implement all of his campaign promises...he said he would work on it. I don't see any evidence that he has abandoned this particular idea... only that he has not yet had time to implement it.

[moderate democrat]

I agree with you, 3 weeks is not enough time to judge his work, after a year sure, maybe 6 months. but not 3 weeks.

yurt, the little immature wannabe lawyer, loves to call everyone else a liar when he has lied about everything, from where his parents live to how old he is to where he has been in the world. He is the posterchild for why you should seriously consider whether being a republican is where you want to cast your lot in life. Beware of him. seriously.

[hjmick]

While three weeks is indeed not enough time to get all of his campaign promises enacted, He is the President, He is the head of His party, and it would not have taken much more than a phone call from Him telling Pelosi and Reid not to be a couple of schmucks and make sure the official Republican conferees were in on the wheeling and dealing.

[moderate democrat]

While three weeks is indeed not enough time to get all of his campaign promises enacted, He is the President, He is the head of His party, and it would not have taken much more than a phone call from Him telling Pelosi and Reid not to be a couple of schmucks and make sure the official Republican conferees were in on the wheeling and dealing.

again...the only republican conferees that mattered - Snowe, Collins, and Specter WERE in on the wheeling and dealing.

[hjmick]

again...the only republican conferees that mattered - Snowe, Collins, and Specter WERE in on the wheeling and dealing.

And yet not one of those three are what the Republicans are calling "official conferees." Now, I do not know who the "official conferees" are nor do I know what constitutes an "official conferee."

Just saying...

[moderate democrat]

And yet not one of those three are what the Republicans are calling "official conferees." Now, I do not know who the "official conferees" are nor do I know what constitutes an "official conferee."

Just saying...

every other republican was determined to see the stimulus bill fail. why bother with them?