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Psychoblues
03-27-2007, 02:39 PM
lil' bush ain't into anything he can't understand, but, ignorance is NO EXCUSE!!!


"Bush administration officials throughout the government have engaged in White House-directed efforts to stifle, delay or dampen the release of climate change research that casts the White House or its policies in a bad light, says a new report that purports to be the most comprehensive assessment to date of the subject.

Researchers for the non-profit watchdog Government Accountability Project reviewed thousands of e-mails, memos and other documents obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests and from government whistle-blowers and conducted dozens of interviews with public affairs staff, scientists, reporters and others.

The group says it has identified hundreds of instances where White House-appointed officials interfered with government scientists' efforts to convey their research findings to the public, at the behest of top administration officials.

The report is slated to be released tomorrow at a hearing before the House Science Committee, which is investigating the issue."


More: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/03/exclusive_repor_1.html


It gets hotter everyday!!!!!!!!!!!

stephanie
03-27-2007, 02:48 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaa..Those poor wittle scientist..

:lame2:

avatar4321
03-27-2007, 04:57 PM
Yeah... now why on earth would the White house want to prevent reports on junk science from reaching the Public. Could it possibly be because they see it for what it and feel they have a moral responsibility to share accurate information with the people instead?

stephanie
03-27-2007, 05:03 PM
The Bush administration doesn't have to stiffle anything...

All these wittle babies have to do, is go to their Lame stream media...

Oh wait..........That's what they did...:poke:



:lame2:

Psychoblues
03-27-2007, 11:09 PM
Junk Science? Can you read or are you just posting the RNC talking points?



Yeah... now why on earth would the White house want to prevent reports on junk science from reaching the Public. Could it possibly be because they see it for what it and feel they have a moral responsibility to share accurate information with the people instead?

Maybe a little too much foxnoise or vodka. I don't know what your problem with information is.

Gaffer
03-27-2007, 11:14 PM
It has nothing to do with the RNC, junk science is junk science. It's just being sold to the public as fact. Even FOX news is on the band wagon.

Psychoblues
03-28-2007, 12:24 AM
OK, sanctimonious prick, give me a point by point or even a general description as to how all these well respected scientists can be so wrong or, like I said earlier, are you just repeating something that you've heard?



It has nothing to do with the RNC, junk science is junk science. It's just being sold to the public as fact. Even FOX news is on the band wagon.

So, it's nothing to be concerned about? Think again.

Gaffer
03-28-2007, 01:00 AM
OK, sanctimonious prick, give me a point by point or even a general description as to how all these well respected scientists can be so wrong or, like I said earlier, are you just repeating something that you've heard?




So, it's nothing to be concerned about? Think again.

Most of these "scientists" are not climotologists. And many just go along with it for the money. Grants and other funding is easier to get if you play ball with the moonbats.

Mars is experiencing global warming too. The polar caps there are melting. Are you prepared to say we are responsible for that as well. We are simply going through a warming phase, as we went through a cooling phase in the 70's. algore is just trying to make political hay and a big wad of cash off of this. In fact they are moving away from calling it global warming to global changes. So they can get the most out of it when the weather gets cooler again. There's only one thing that causes global warming, the sun.

Psychoblues
03-28-2007, 01:19 AM
What are you saying here, gaffer?



Most of these "scientists" are not climotologists. And many just go along with it for the money. Grants and other funding is easier to get if you play ball with the moonbats.

Mars is experiencing global warming too. The polar caps there are melting. Are you prepared to say we are responsible for that as well. We are simply going through a warming phase, as we went through a cooling phase in the 70's. algore is just trying to make political hay and a big wad of cash off of this. In fact they are moving away from calling it global warming to global changes. So they can get the most out of it when the weather gets cooler again. There's only one thing that causes global warming, the sun.

That God is causing our destruction, or that nature is causing it or that dinosaurs ever truly existed? Really, What are you saying, gaffer? I smoke cigarettes. Science has proven that my habit can and probably will cause me an early and terrible death. If I can poison myself with a habit I admit, why can mankind not admit a problem that we all contribute?

I'm getting your point but not your premise, guffer.

Admittedly also, most of those scientists are not "Climotologists" as you describe but they are meteorologists, archaeologists, and a host of other "ologists" that our Universities educate and send out to research and inform as their research dictates. I, for one, reject the findings of many with higher educations than my own. But, when I am satisfied that the research is sound and not hampered or influenced by entities that would rather the research be ignored, I am apt to at least give it proper regard.

Gaffer
03-28-2007, 01:53 AM
What are you saying here, gaffer?




That God is causing our destruction, or that nature is causing it or that dinosaurs ever truly existed? Really, What are you saying, gaffer? I smoke cigarettes. Science has proven that my habit can and probably will cause me an early and terrible death. If I can poison myself with a habit I admit, why can mankind not admit a problem that we all contribute?

I'm getting your point but not your premise, guffer.

Admittedly also, most of those scientists are not "Climotologists" as you describe but they are meteorologists, archaeologists, and a host of other "ologists" that our Universities educate and send out to research and inform as their research dictates. I, for one, reject the findings of many with higher educations than my own. But, when I am satisfied that the research is sound and not hampered or influenced by entities that would rather the research be ignored, I am apt to at least give it proper regard.

Your rambling here. A few too many tonight?

I said, the warming is caused by the sun. No mention of god in anything I stated. what are you saying syco. You will buy into anything that isn't agreed on by republican? If Bush says its wrong it must be right? I think whatever your party says you will go blindly along with it. Inspite of facts or evidence. Just keep towing the party line. They need all the useful idiots theycan get.

Psychoblues
03-28-2007, 02:21 AM
No, no absolutely not, guffer. I actually do follow genuine science and avoid the Sci-Fi shit that the present administration has sold at least you on.


Your rambling here. A few too many tonight?

I said, the warming is caused by the sun. No mention of god in anything I stated. what are you saying syco. You will buy into anything that isn't agreed on by republican? If Bush says its wrong it must be right? I think whatever your party says you will go blindly along with it. Inspite of facts or evidence. Just keep towing the party line. They need all the useful idiots theycan get.

I have voted my conscience for 57 years or at least the part of it when I could vote. I have voted Republican for the majority of that time. I have learned my lesson and learned it well. I won't be making that mistake again.

Gaffer
03-28-2007, 02:06 PM
No, no absolutely not, guffer. I actually do follow genuine science and avoid the Sci-Fi shit that the present administration has sold at least you on.



I have voted my conscience for 57 years or at least the part of it when I could vote. I have voted Republican for the majority of that time. I have learned my lesson and learned it well. I won't be making that mistake again.

So you gave up voting your conscience in favor of voting against America. Good choice there. The socialist rely on pinheads to promote their propaganda. I'm sure algore loves you. He might even make you a deacon in the church of gore someday.

Hagbard Celine
03-28-2007, 03:40 PM
Yeah... now why on earth would the White house want to prevent reports on junk science from reaching the Public. Could it possibly be because they see it for what it and feel they have a moral responsibility to share accurate information with the people instead?

Yes exactly. I agree. The white house is definately qualified to judge which reports the public should and shouldn't see based on its own extensive scientific knowledge.

Gaffer
03-28-2007, 04:20 PM
Yes exactly. I agree. The white house is definately qualified to judge which reports the public should and shouldn't see based on its own extensive scientific knowledge.

How about, based on its own scientific advisors, who just happen to be real scientists.

Psychoblues
03-30-2007, 03:24 PM
I didn't say that, guffer. You did. Go back and read the post again.



So you gave up voting your conscience in favor of voting against America. Good choice there. The socialist rely on pinheads to promote their propaganda. I'm sure algore loves you. He might even make you a deacon in the church of gore someday.

I am a deacon and ordained minister, nonactive of course, in the Church of the New Testament, gaffer. Most Americans know very little about the New Testament or the teachings of Jesus Christ. Until we can get the messages of the old to jibe with the new I suspect we will remain discombobulated until we learn better or we are completely defeated. Whichever comes first.

Don't you think?

OCA
03-30-2007, 08:53 PM
I didn't say that, guffer. You did. Go back and read the post again.




I am a deacon and ordained minister, nonactive of course, in the Church of the New Testament, gaffer. Most Americans know very little about the New Testament or the teachings of Jesus Christ. Until we can get the messages of the old to jibe with the new I suspect we will remain discombobulated until we learn better or we are completely defeated. Whichever comes first.

Don't you think?

LMFAO! Lets see, you've served in every major American conflict from the Civil War to Desert Storm and are highly decorated, you were an elected official through 3 decades and now you are a minister who understands the New Testament and Jesus Christ better than most Americans........you sir are a filthy fucking liar and you know it.

grunt
03-30-2007, 09:03 PM
This is very long..but well worth watching!

Global Warming Scandal!


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Kathianne
03-30-2007, 09:09 PM
This is very long..but well worth watching!

Global Warming Scandal!


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I've seen parts of this, agree for the most part, problem is, sourcing? What are the sources?

manu1959
03-30-2007, 09:16 PM
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23390848-details/Air+miles+Travolta+urges+fans+to+%27do+their+bit%2 7+for+the+environment/article.do

now this is a global warming scandal

grunt
03-30-2007, 09:19 PM
I've seen parts of this, agree for the most part, problem is, sourcing? What are the sources?


Well, the film has nine professors, who are experts in climatology, oceanography, meteorology, biogeography and paleoclimatology.
It also says the experts come from prestigious institutions such
as the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the National Aeronautics
and Space Administration, the Pasteur Institute in Paris, the Danish
National Space Center and universities and other schools in London,
Ottawa, Jerusalem, Alabama, Virginia and Winnipeg, Canada.

If you watch the film or look up the credits I'm sure one could get the names of these scientists and take a look at their credentials.

A lot better than almost-President-know-nothing-about-climate-Gore. Don't ya think?

Psychoblues
04-01-2007, 06:52 PM
What has any of this got to do with actual findings by credible researchers who have no corporate or government connections?



Well, the film has nine professors, who are experts in climatology, oceanography, meteorology, biogeography and paleoclimatology.
It also says the experts come from prestigious institutions such
as the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the National Aeronautics
and Space Administration, the Pasteur Institute in Paris, the Danish
National Space Center and universities and other schools in London,
Ottawa, Jerusalem, Alabama, Virginia and Winnipeg, Canada.

If you watch the film or look up the credits I'm sure one could get the names of these scientists and take a look at their credentials.

A lot better than almost-President-know-nothing-about-climate-Gore. Don't ya think?

Some of you are simply laughable.

grunt
04-01-2007, 06:55 PM
What has any of this got to do with actual findings by credible researchers who have no corporate or government connections?




Some of you are simply laughable.


And what findings would that be?