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LiberalNation
12-19-2008, 08:11 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081220/ap_on_re_us/gay_marriage_lawsuits;_ylt=AoQ4zBzkTXg7E0pj43uy0S9 vzwcF

SAN FRANCISCO – The sponsors of Proposition 8 asked the California Supreme Court on Friday to nullify the marriages of the estimated 18,000 same-sex couples who exchanged vows before voters approved the ballot initiative that outlawed gay unions.

The Yes on 8 campaign filed a brief arguing that because the new law holds that only marriages between a man and a woman are recognized or valid in California, the state can no longer recognize the existing same-sex unions. The document reveals for the first time that opponents of same-sex marriage will fight in court to undo those unions that already exist.

"Proposition 8's brevity is matched by its clarity. There are no conditional clauses, exceptions, exemptions or exclusions," reads the brief co-written by Kenneth Starr, dean of Pepperdine University's law school and the former independent counsel who investigated President Bill Clinton.

The campaign submitted the document in response to three lawsuits seeking to invalidate Proposition 8, the constitutional amendment adopted last month that overruled the court's decision in May that had legalized gay marriage in the nation's most populous state.

Both Attorney General Jerry Brown, whose office is scheduled to submit its own brief to the court Friday, and gay rights groups maintain that the gay marriage ban may not be applied retroactively.

The Supreme Court could hear arguments in the litigation as soon as March. The measure's backers announced Friday that Starr, a former federal judge and U.S. solicitor general, had signed on as their lead counsel and would argue the cases.

Proposition 8's supporters assert that the Supreme Court lacks the authority or historical precedent to throw out the amendment.

"For this court to rule otherwise would be to tear asunder a lavish body of jurisprudence," the court papers state. "That body of decisional law commands judges — as servants of the people — to bow to the will of those whom they serve — even if the substantive result of what people have wrought in constitution-amending is deemed unenlightened."

namvet
12-19-2008, 09:34 PM
so I wonder when the riots start????

REDWHITEBLUE2
12-19-2008, 10:39 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081220/ap_on_re_us/gay_marriage_lawsuits;_ylt=AoQ4zBzkTXg7E0pj43uy0S9 vzwcF

The sponsors of Proposition 8 asked the California Supreme Court on Friday to nullify the marriages of the estimated 18,000 same-sex couples And how is this a bad thing ?:dance:

manu1959
12-19-2008, 11:16 PM
can you show my the law the made gay marriages legal......

5stringJeff
12-21-2008, 06:57 PM
That would be an ex post facto law, I believe.

April15
12-21-2008, 07:04 PM
That would be an ex post facto law, I believe.Exactly! Not to mention the denial of civil rights is contrary to law.

LiberalNation
12-21-2008, 07:24 PM
they should wait and see if the amendment is going to stand before trying to get this thru.

5stringJeff
12-21-2008, 07:28 PM
Exactly! Not to mention the denial of civil rights is contrary to law.

Well, I don't see how gay marriage is a civil right, but I do see the ex post facto standpoint on this.

April15
12-21-2008, 07:55 PM
Well, I don't see how gay marriage is a civil right, but I do see the ex post facto standpoint on this.Unfortunately the law on civil rights makes it unlawful to discriminate or deny freedoms, that everyone enjoys, for a certain group or sect of people.