Supreme Court denies cert to citizenship lawsuit against Obama

[Little-Acorn]

To no one's surprise, the U.S. Supreme Court has declined to hear a case brought by Leo Donofrio, who claims that both Barack Obama and Jonh McCain are not natural-born citizens and are therefore ineligible to be President of the United States.

A number of similar lawsuits remain, such as the one filed by PA Democrat Philip Berg, whose claim concerns only Obama. Hopefully they will get their 15 minutes of fame soon, as they are similary rejected by the Supremes.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081208/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_obama

Court: No review of Obama's eligibility to serve

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth.

The court did not comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election.

Donofrio says that since Obama had dual nationality at birth — his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject — he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen," one of the requirements the Constitution lists for eligibility to be president.

Donofrio also contends that two other candidates, Republican John McCain and Socialist Workers candidate Roger Calero, also are not natural-born citizens and thus ineligible to be president.

At least one other appeal over Obama's citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and the Hawaii secretary of state has confirmed.

Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg's lawsuit. Federal courts in Ohio and Washington state have rejected similar lawsuits.

Allegations raised on the Internet say the birth certificate, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, is a fake.

But state officials in Hawaii say they checked health department records and have determined there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.

The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document.

[stephanie]

I wonder what we should rename the United States??

The Socialist States of America

[Yurt]

it is so nice of obama to waste court time and dollars by not releasing a copy of the original. obama is a dishonest thug.

[bullypulpit]

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[Psychoblues]

I think the modem operandi of the Democratic Party in general on this issue is to allow the thick-headed idiots to bankrupt themselves in financial, moral and faux patriotic endeavors so as to keep them away from more important national interests. They do tend to fuck things up pretty badly when they don't have much to worry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Psychoblues

[darin]

The challenge to his Citizenship is a joke, IMO...Not worth the time or effort.

[Yurt]

I think the modem operandi of the Democratic Party in general on this issue is to allow the thick-headed idiots to bankrupt themselves in financial, moral and faux patriotic endeavors so as to keep them away from more important national interests. They do tend to fuck things up pretty badly when they don't have much to worry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Psychoblues

right, that is why they set up a seperate page to this fight this smear on obama's fight the smear campaign....uh huh...nice try

he is hiding something on the original, if it exists

[Kathianne]

The challenge to his Citizenship is a joke, IMO...Not worth the time or effort.

My opinion also, one of Newsmax's writer's too:

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama_birth/2008/12/08/159417.html


Obama Was Born in the United States

Monday, December 8, 2008 11:30 AM

By: Ronald Kessler

For months, I have been bombarded by e-mails claiming Barack Obama was born in Kenya and therefore does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president. I have also received hundreds of e-mails from readers asking why I do not expose the truth about his birth.

The truth is that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii, by law, does not make original birth certificates public, and this has enabled conspiracy theorists to claim that there is something nefarious about the circumstances of Obama’s birth.

Instead, it allows the public to see a so-called certification of birth — also known as a short-form birth certificate — that lists the name of the baby and the date and place of birth but not additional details like the birth weight and the parents’ hometowns.

As claims of a cover-up mounted on the Internet prior to the election, Obama posted a digitally scanned image of his original birth certificate. But that enabled conspiracy theorists to say the image had been created by Photoshop. Obama then let FactCheck.org, a nonprofit project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, view, handle, and photograph the birth original certificate at Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago.

“The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport,” FactCheck.org, headed by respected former Wall Street Journal reporter Brooks Jackson, concluded.

According to the State Department, that includes “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.”

That led to claims by conspiracy theorists that the document shown to FactCheck.org was fake. However, on Oct. 31, the Hawaii Department of Health issued a press release saying that Chiyome Fukino, director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, along with Alvin Onaka, the registrar of vital statistics, had “personally seen and verified that Hawaii’s State Department of Public Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

Fukino told the Honolulu Advertiser that her department issued the press release after being barraged by calls about the issue, including some received by state officials at home in the middle of the night.

“This has gotten ridiculous,” said Fukino, a medical doctor.

Aside from that official verification of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, back on Aug. 31, 1962, the Honolulu Advertiser ran an announcement of his birth.

“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalaniaaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4,” the announcement said

What about claims that Obama’s paternal grandmother has said he was born in Kenya? At a dinner at the Ritz Carlton given by a conservative group, I happened to sit next to Philip Berg. Berg is the Philadelphia lawyer who is suing to have Obama disqualified as president because he is allegedly not a citizen of the United States.

A former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania, Berg has claimed that he has a tape recording of a phone conversation in which Obama’s paternal grandmother says she was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961.

On Oct. 23, Berg told talk-radio host Michael Savage that he would release the tape “in a day or two.” To date, he has not done so.

At the dinner, I asked Berg how he knows that the voice on the tape is that of Obama’s grandmother. Berg was vague: He said he knows someone who vouches for the fact that the tape is authentic....

[Yurt]

1. obama can make his "original" bc public

2. obama did not release a copy of the "original" bc

the newsmax article is wrong on these counts

[Psychoblues]

Why should he make it public to "you", yuk? I've never seen or even asked to see the birth certificate of any president, elected or not!!!!!!!!!!!




1. obama can make his "original" bc public

2. obama did not release a copy of the "original" bc

the newsmax article is wrong on these counts

There is so much humor in keeping your ass so tore up about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Productive as well!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need some cheese to go with that whine?!?!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!!

Psychoblues

[Yurt]

Why should he make it public to "you", yuk? I've never seen or even asked to see the birth certificate of any president, elected or not!!!!!!!!!!!





There is so much humor in keeping your ass so tore up about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Productive as well!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need some cheese to go with that whine?!?!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!!

Psychoblues

easy, he PROMISED to fight the smears and he is not fighting this one, mccain showed his, so you are flat out wrong about mccain not being asked, when asked, he showed that and then some. obama, nah, he is playing hide the ball.

if there is nothing to hide, why not show a copy of the ORIGINAL and not some computer copy when he PROMISED to fight every smear with the truth.

oh well, another lie....and psydeshow, stop thinking about my ass in such a homosexual manner :poke:

[Psychoblues]

You and your kind are becoming the laughing stock of the so-called conservatives, yuk. Just today, several of the hate radio jocks dismissed the entire affair of the birth certificate as being rooted in the sore-loser category of the nutso reichwinger branch that so desperately yelled for everyone else to "get over it" in 2000. It's tremendously comical if you really think about it, yuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, it does take a good sense of humor that obviously you lack.

Psychoblues

[stephanie]

:lol:

doesn't matter..we've been laughing at you all for years...over the Bush stole the election...:dance:

[emmett]

easy, he PROMISED to fight the smears and he is not fighting this one, mccain showed his, so you are flat out wrong about mccain not being asked, when asked, he showed that and then some. obama, nah, he is playing hide the ball.

if there is nothing to hide, why not show a copy of the ORIGINAL and not some computer copy when he PROMISED to fight every smear with the truth.

oh well, another lie....and psydeshow, stop thinking about my ass in such a homosexual manner :poke:


That was a very insensative thing to say to someone who has shown you such respect on this board Yurt!

[Psychoblues]

I appreciate the audience, stevie!!!!!!!!!!!!!:dance:



:lol:

doesn't matter..we've been laughing at you all for years...over the Bush stole the election...:dance:

Can I get you a Cape Cods of have you already had too many?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Psychoblues

[Yurt]

You and your kind are becoming the laughing stock of the so-called conservatives, yuk. Just today, several of the hate radio jocks dismissed the entire affair of the birth certificate as being rooted in the sore-loser category of the nutso reichwinger branch that so desperately yelled for everyone else to "get over it" in 2000. It's tremendously comical if you really think about it, yuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, it does take a good sense of humor that obviously you lack.

Psychoblues

thank you for admitting i don't follow hate radio jocks :cheers2:

i am not surprised you will not actually address my points

[bullypulpit]

The challenge to his Citizenship is a joke, IMO...Not worth the time or effort.

Then why did a right leaning SCOTUS ignore it? If that's the hill y'all wanna die on, you just go right ahead. Or perhaps you should listen toone of the more coherent voices on the far right, David Horowitz regarding this lame-brained notion...

<blockqoute>The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny President-elect Barack Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president is embarrassing and destructive. The fact that these efforts are being led by Alan Keyes, an unhinged demagogue on the political fringe who in 2004 lost an Illinois Senate election to Obama by 42 points should be a warning in itself...

...It is not conservatism; it is sore loserism and quite radical in its intent. Respect for election results is one of the most durable bulwarks of our unity as a nation. Conservatives need to accept the fact that we lost the election, and get over it; and get on with the important business of reviving our country's economy and defending its citizens, and – by the way – its Constitution.</blockquote>

Again,

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[bullypulpit]

1. obama can make his "original" bc public

2. obama did not release a copy of the "original" bc

the newsmax article is wrong on these counts

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[bullypulpit]

thank you for admitting i don't follow hate radio jocks :cheers2:

i am not surprised you will not actually address my points

You actually have to have a point before it can be addressed.

[Psychoblues]

I couldn't have said it better myself, bp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




You actually have to have a point before it can be addressed.

yuk imagines his points but rarely makes one. No small wonder he is a rejected and failed doctor of jurisprudence. Judging from most of his DP banter I think I can credibly surmise that most any real Judge that I know about would kick his ass immediately out of their courtroom if not put him in jail for malpractise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[JohnDoe]

1. obama can make his "original" bc public

2. obama did not release a copy of the "original" bc

the newsmax article is wrong on these counts
by no means have i been an obama supporter, I'm still stuck on Hillary....:(

but fyi...

Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.

ENTIRE ARTICLE AND PHOTOS OF RAISED SEAL ON BIRTH CERTIFICATE HERE:http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

What is it that you do NOT accept Yurt?

jd

[stephanie]

from what I've been seeing this isn't going away, no matter how many lawyers or money he throws at it..

he could just release the orginial BC that he had sealed in Hawaii and make this all go away..

but he won't....why?????

[Psychoblues]

You entirely miss the point, stevie.



from what I've been seeing this isn't going away, no matter how many lawyers or money he throws at it..

he could just release the orginial BC that he had sealed in Hawaii and make this all go away..

but he won't....why?????

Obama isn't throwing any money or lawyers at this issue. It is the idiots that continue to waste valuable time and resources to disprove what's already been satisfactorilly proven, for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!! Some of you jerks really do need to get a genuine life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

[Little-Acorn]

thank you for admitting i don't follow hate radio jocks :cheers2:

Practically nobody does. Air America had an audience numbered in the dozens, and MSNBC nearly doubles that. Though I believe Alan Colmes still has a radio show somewhere - is it still on the air?

[Yurt]

You actually have to have a point before it can be addressed.

1. did he promise to fight all smears, yes or no

2. did he release a copy of the ORIGINAL, yes or no

3. does he have the power to release a copy of the original, yes or no

i am surprised this is all you have. psydeshows insults with no debate are no surprise, but i expected at least an answer from you.

[Yurt]

by no means have i been an obama supporter, I'm still stuck on Hillary....:(

but fyi...

Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.

ENTIRE ARTICLE AND PHOTOS OF RAISED SEAL ON BIRTH CERTIFICATE HERE:http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

What is it that you do NOT accept Yurt?

jd

they allege to have touched the electronic copy, NOT the original....read the article carefully. and why did they get to touch the original but obama won't post a copy of it? if you read the article it is about the electronic copy, but factcheck is so far into obama's back pocket that i would nto trust them for anything.

so in answer to your question, i do not accept that they touched a copy of the original, they allege to only touch a copy of the one obama posted on his website and that is NOT an original. look at the pictures that they claim PROVE they touched the original, it is a copy of the electronic version, NOT the original, factcheck folks are liars.