Auto contributions!

[Binky]

Here's a flyer my hubby was given by someone he knows and he gave it to me. Because of all the slamming people have been giving to the auto companies, (much of which I feel stems from jealiousy because of the wages their employees make), I have decided to post this.



For, Chrysler and GM's contributions after 9/11...........


CNN Headline News did a short news listing regarding Ford and GM's contributions to the relief and recovery efforts in New York and Washington....


The findings are as follows........


1. Ford-$10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions of the same number plus 10 Excursions to NY Fire Dept. The company also offered ER response team services and office space to displaced government employees.

2. GM-$10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions of the same number and a fleet of vans, suv's, and trucks.

3. Daimler Chrysler-$10 million to support for the children and victims of the
Sept. 11th attack.

4. Harley Davidson motorcycles-$1 million and 30 new motorcycles to NYPD.

5. Volkswagen-Employees and management created a Sept. 11th Foundation, funded initially with $2 million, for the assistance of the children and victims of the WTC.

6. Hyundai-$300,000 to the American Red Cross.

7. Audi-NOTHING.

8. BMW-NOTHING.

9. Daewoo-NOTHING.

10. Fiat-NOTHING.

11. Honda-NOTHING, despite boasting of second best sales month ever in August 2001.

12. Isuzu-NOTHING.

13. Mitsubishi-NOTHING.

14. Nissan-NOTHING.

15. Porsche-NOTHING. Press release with condolences via the Porsche website.

16. Subaru-NOTHING.

17. Suzuki-NOTHING.

18. Toyota-NOTHING, despite claims of high sales in July and August 2001.
Condolences posted on their website.


Wherever the time may be for you to purchase or lease a new vehicle, keep this information in mind. You might want to give more consideration to a car manufactured by an American-owned and/or American based company. Apart from Hyundai and Volkswagen, the foreign car companies contributed NOTHING at all to the citizens of the United States.....It's OK for these companies to take money out of this country, but it is apparently not acceptable to return some on a time of crisis.


It might behoove all of us to not forget this. And you may still feel the urge to slam the companies and their workers. Keep in mind that if they fail and fall apart, it will create a tsuemaume across this country taking millions of jobs throughout with it. And not just those directly working in the companies.

[Mr. P]

Here's a flyer my hubby was given by someone he knows and he gave it to me. Because of all the slamming people have been giving to the auto companies, (much of which I feel stems from jealiousy because of the wages their employees make), I have decided to post this.



For, Chrysler and GM's contributions after 9/11...........


CNN Headline News did a short news listing regarding Ford and GM's contributions to the relief and recovery efforts in New York and Washington....


The findings are as follows........


1. Ford-$10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions of the same number plus 10 Excursions to NY Fire Dept. The company also offered ER response team services and office space to displaced government employees.

2. GM-$10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions of the same number and a fleet of vans, suv's, and trucks.

3. Daimler Chrysler-$10 million to support for the children and victims of the
Sept. 11th attack.

4. Harley Davidson motorcycles-$1 million and 30 new motorcycles to NYPD.

5. Volkswagen-Employees and management created a Sept. 11th Foundation, funded initially with $2 million, for the assistance of the children and victims of the WTC.

6. Hyundai-$300,000 to the American Red Cross.

7. Audi-NOTHING.

8. BMW-NOTHING.

9. Daewoo-NOTHING.

10. Fiat-NOTHING.

11. Honda-NOTHING, despite boasting of second best sales month ever in August 2001.

12. Isuzu-NOTHING.

13. Mitsubishi-NOTHING.

14. Nissan-NOTHING.

15. Porsche-NOTHING. Press release with condolences via the Porsche website.

16. Subaru-NOTHING.

17. Suzuki-NOTHING.

18. Toyota-NOTHING, despite claims of high sales in July and August 2001.
Condolences posted on their website.


Wherever the time may be for you to purchase or lease a new vehicle, keep this information in mind. You might want to give more consideration to a car manufactured by an American-owned and/or American based company. Apart from Hyundai and Volkswagen, the foreign car companies contributed NOTHING at all to the citizens of the United States.....It's OK for these companies to take money out of this country, but it is apparently not acceptable to return some on a time of crisis.


It might behoove all of us to not forget this. And you may still feel the urge to slam the companies and their workers. Keep in mind that if they fail and fall apart, it will create a tsuemaume across this country taking millions of jobs throughout with it. And not just those directly working in the companies.

It might behoove all of us to not forget that they make junk..I don't buy junk regardless of donations.

They need to file chapter 11 and get on with business.

[DragonStryk72]

Seriously, though, we need to let some companies just fail. I know that sounds harsh, but it's the only way that our economy actually evolves- weak, poorly run companies die out, leaving room for newer, better run companies to take their place. We simply refuse to be inconvenienced by it these days, which only aids the decline of our economy.

[Binky]

Seriously, though, we need to let some companies just fail. I know that sounds harsh, but it's the only way that our economy actually evolves- weak, poorly run companies die out, leaving room for newer, better run companies to take their place. We simply refuse to be inconvenienced by it these days, which only aids the decline of our economy.


Seriously, do you really want a company the size of GM that has millions of employees to fail? Do you have a clue as to how that would effect the economy? Failing would not only take it's own people but millions of those that are connected to it in some way, shape or form. How about where those employees spend their money at? Restaurants, motels, gas stations, grocery stores, auto parts stores, department stores? The list goes on. There would be a chain reaction since they are all interconected.

[No1tovote4]

Seriously, do you really want a company the size of GM that has millions of employees to fail? Do you have a clue as to how that would effect the economy? Failing would not only take it's own people but millions of those that are connected to it in some way, shape or form. How about where those employees spend their money at? Restaurants, motels, gas stations, grocery stores, auto parts stores, department stores? The list goes on. There would be a chain reaction since they are all interconected.
Chapter 11 is a restructuring, not the closing of their doors. If the judge determines that there is viability with a restructure they help with the restructuring.

The reality is, that bankruptcy is their best bet, they are so full of failure that the government giving them a loan is just thowing good money after bad. They are in dire need of restructuring contracts, retooling, and a management cleanout. Otherwise we are just setting ourselves up for the "automobile bubble" creating another crisis in about 3 years.

[Mr. P]

Seriously, do you really want a company the size of GM that has millions of employees to fail? Do you have a clue as to how that would effect the economy? Failing would not only take it's own people but millions of those that are connected to it in some way, shape or form. How about where those employees spend their money at? Restaurants, motels, gas stations, grocery stores, auto parts stores, department stores? The list goes on. There would be a chain reaction since they are all interconected.

They can file chapter 11 and continue to operate..Other companies that have had a ride on their coat tails will need to deal with reality. That's the way a FREE market works.

[Binky]

Chapter 11 is a restructuring, not the closing of their doors. If the judge determines that there is viability with a restructure they help with the restructuring.

The reality is, that bankruptcy is their best bet, they are so full of failure that the government giving them a loan is just thowing good money after bad. They are in dire need of restructuring contracts, retooling, and a management cleanout. Otherwise we are just setting ourselves up for the "automobile bubble" creating another crisis in about 3 years.


On that note, millions of people would still be loosing their jobs. They could get different managers that would do a better job, but most of those that were laid off, so to speak, would be assembly people. If they weren't selling many vehicles, they certainly wouldn't need the amount of assemblers that they now have. Skilled trades would prob'ly be alright.

[Mr. P]

On that note, millions of people would still be loosing their jobs. They could get different managers that would do a better job, but most of those that were laid off, so to speak, would be assembly people. If they weren't selling many vehicles, they certainly wouldn't need the amount of assemblers that they now have. Skilled trades would prob'ly be alright.

A bail-out won't sell more cars..so assembly workers will lose jobs..cold fact of a failing business.

[namvet]

the GOV will own em