Oh dear...

[bullypulpit]

...The tone from the right in reaction to Barack Obama's sweeping victory in the presidential election is one of unremitting bitterness. But, as usual, their invective is aimed in the wrong direction...Outward rather than inward. The right is blaming the media, the Democrats, socialists, homosexuals, terrorists, foreign governments...everyone except themselves...for John McCain's resounding defeat last night.

Right wing pundits are calling for a return to the policies and politics of Reagan to renew the GOP, never realizing that the Bush administration and its policies are the logical, ultimate expression of Reagan's political and ideological vision. The right cannot accept that it was the utter bankruptcy of their vision that led to their defeat.

If conservatives want to truly get back to their roots, they should look, not to Reagan, but to Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley, Russel Kirk and others. Their views were the real intellectual heart of American conservatism. Instead, their vision was hijacked by the meanness, pettiness and narrowness of vision that came to characterize the Bush administration. If conservatives want to see the real cause of the repudiation of their ideology yesterday, they need look no further than the mirror.

[Immanuel]

I have NOT been bitter.

I AM being optomistic.

I AM praying for President Elect Obama, his family and his administration and a turn around for America.

Immie

[Mr. P]

...The tone from the right in reaction to Barack Obama's sweeping victory in the presidential election is one of unremitting bitterness. But, as usual, their invective is aimed in the wrong direction...Outward rather than inward. The right is blaming the media, the Democrats, socialists, homosexuals, terrorists, foreign governments...everyone except themselves...for John McCain's resounding defeat last night.

Right wing pundits are calling for a return to the policies and politics of Reagan to renew the GOP, never realizing that the Bush administration and its policies are the logical, ultimate expression of Reagan's political and ideological vision. The right cannot accept that it was the utter bankruptcy of their vision that led to their defeat.

If conservatives want to truly get back to their roots, they should look, not to Reagan, but to Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley, Russel Kirk and others. Their views were the real intellectual heart of American conservatism. Instead, their vision was hijacked by the meanness, pettiness and narrowness of vision that came to characterize the Bush administration. If conservatives want to see the real cause of the repudiation of their ideology yesterday, they need look no further than the mirror.

This conservative will look to the Reagan policy any day. Bush is, was, no Reagan anyway ya spin it.

[Abbey Marie]

No Bully. We blame YOU.


(j/k)

[Yurt]

i think the libs that are running around screaming that the right is bitter...are really deflecting and projecting their own extreme and unreasonable bitterness and nastiness towards the bush administration for 8 years...

the left just can't stand that the "ape" "dumbass" "etc...." beat them...TWICE

the left has whined for 8 years and the fact that less than 24 hours after obama won the election they are already accusing the right of whining is a true sign of guilt and desperation...they know obama is no leader and they are afraid.

[manu1959]

...The tone from the right in reaction to Barack Obama's sweeping victory in the presidential election is one of unremitting bitterness. But, as usual, their invective is aimed in the wrong direction...Outward rather than inward. The right is blaming the media, the Democrats, socialists, homosexuals, terrorists, foreign governments...everyone except themselves...for John McCain's resounding defeat last night.

Right wing pundits are calling for a return to the policies and politics of Reagan to renew the GOP, never realizing that the Bush administration and its policies are the logical, ultimate expression of Reagan's political and ideological vision. The right cannot accept that it was the utter bankruptcy of their vision that led to their defeat.

If conservatives want to truly get back to their roots, they should look, not to Reagan, but to Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley, Russel Kirk and others. Their views were the real intellectual heart of American conservatism. Instead, their vision was hijacked by the meanness, pettiness and narrowness of vision that came to characterize the Bush administration. If conservatives want to see the real cause of the repudiation of their ideology yesterday, they need look no further than the mirror.

can you link me up to the webxsites and videos of people wanting to split the country up....move to other countries.....videos of people proclaiming i didn't vote for him.....

see bitter is the behaviour of the left in 00 and 04....

what you are seeing is concern that obama may do harm to this country and disapointment that their guy did n't win.....what you are also seeing is people wishing obama well and noting the historic nature of his victory....

but since being a good loser and backing your president even if you didn't vote for him is beyond the capabilites of the left...you are seeing things that are not there....

[Little-Acorn]

...The tone from the right is one of unremitting bitterness.

their invective is aimed Outward rather than inward

The right is blaming the media, the Democrats, socialists, homosexuals, terrorists, foreign governments...everyone except themselves


Looks like little bullyboy is making up "facts" again, and then blaming Republicans for them as usual.

Haven't read what Repubs are actually saying, have we?

Why am I not surprised... some things never change.

(yawn)

[avatar4321]

...The tone from the right in reaction to Barack Obama's sweeping victory in the presidential election is one of unremitting bitterness. But, as usual, their invective is aimed in the wrong direction...Outward rather than inward. The right is blaming the media, the Democrats, socialists, homosexuals, terrorists, foreign governments...everyone except themselves...for John McCain's resounding defeat last night.

Right wing pundits are calling for a return to the policies and politics of Reagan to renew the GOP, never realizing that the Bush administration and its policies are the logical, ultimate expression of Reagan's political and ideological vision. The right cannot accept that it was the utter bankruptcy of their vision that led to their defeat.

If conservatives want to truly get back to their roots, they should look, not to Reagan, but to Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley, Russel Kirk and others. Their views were the real intellectual heart of American conservatism. Instead, their vision was hijacked by the meanness, pettiness and narrowness of vision that came to characterize the Bush administration. If conservatives want to see the real cause of the repudiation of their ideology yesterday, they need look no further than the mirror.

You've made the claim multiple times that the right is bitter. Prove it. You have absolutely no evidence.

You are also completely lying about who we are blaming. We are blaming McCain and other RINOs like him who have abandoned conservatism.

Bush wasn't conservative. That's why we've been frustrated with him. What's so funny about it is his liberal activities is exactly what youve hated him for.

[theHawk]

I'm not bitter at all. No matter how much of a shitbag liberal Obama is, and how much his policies will fail America, I'm still going to be a conservative. And believe me, we don't need lectures from the bitter shitbag liberals of the last 8 years. We know how much Republicans fucked up, and they rightfully lost.

After listening to Howard Dean today, we already know what the next 2-4 years is going to be like. Dems will try to ram down their liberal agenda through Congress, and when the Republicans fight it, they'll be labeled "dissenters" and "not working to move the country forward".

[Kathianne]

I have NOT been bitter.

I AM being optomistic.

I AM praying for President Elect Obama, his family and his administration and a turn around for America.

Immie

Me too, but it's taking the left by surprise. Interestingly enough, on some discussions they are realizing and saying they may need a rethink.

[krisy]

i don't feel bitter at all. I hope he has a safe presidency. I hope he does good for this country.

I place blame in several areas. I think McCain ran an awful campaign....he wasn't powerful,fiery. He didn't catch on to what America needed to hear.

I aslo blame the absolute,blatent,media bias in the coverage of this election. Never have I seen the media promote a candidate like that. Say what you want,they all wanted Obama.

I do place blame as well on so many conservatives that didn't remain conservative

Last,but not least,I blame the millions of people that cast their vote for a candidate....and had no idea why.

[bullypulpit]

I have NOT been bitter.

I AM being optomistic.

I AM praying for President Elect Obama, his family and his administration and a turn around for America.

Immie

I wasn't talking about you. ;)

[bullypulpit]

You've made the claim multiple times that the right is bitter. Prove it. You have absolutely no evidence.

You are also completely lying about who we are blaming. We are blaming McCain and other RINOs like him who have abandoned conservatism.

Bush wasn't conservative. That's why we've been frustrated with him. What's so funny about it is his liberal activities is exactly what youve hated him for.

You didn't listen to Rush Limbaugh today...or Sean Hannity...Or Michael Savage...or any other member of the right wing punditocracy.

As for Bush's "liberal activities"...there haven't been any of any significance. The signing statements he issued in an attempt to undermine congressional authority. The executive orders he signed, undermining the Constitution. The blatant disregard he and members of his administration showed for US and international law. Their willingness to prey upon the fears of the electorate to achieve their political goals. These and many more issues, which have less to do with any supposed "liberal activities" than they do with securing power in the hands of the Executive branch, were the cause of liberal ire and antipathy towards the Bush administration.

[avatar4321]

You didn't listen to Rush Limbaugh today...or Sean Hannity...Or Michael Savage...or any other member of the right wing punditocracy.

As for Bush's "liberal activities"...there haven't been any of any significance. The signing statements he issued in an attempt to undermine congressional authority. The executive orders he signed, undermining the Constitution. The blatant disregard he and members of his administration showed for US and international law. Their willingness to prey upon the fears of the electorate to achieve their political goals. These and many more issues, which have less to do with any supposed "liberal activities" than they do with securing power in the hands of the Executive branch, were the cause of liberal ire and antipathy towards the Bush administration.

Actually, I did. They arent bitter. In fact, they seemed overjoyed that this was over.

The constitution was designed to have a strong executive to balance the legislature and the Courts. The past several decades the courts and the legislature have been diluting that power. There is n othing unconstitutional about restoring the executive power.

[Kathianne]

Considering the angst on the left regarding Bush's I'm assuming Obama will do away with this odious practice...

[Abbey Marie]

You didn't listen to Rush Limbaugh today...or Sean Hannity...Or Michael Savage...or any other member of the right wing punditocracy.
...


I don't know about the other two, but I heard some of Rush today. He did not sound bitter at all.

[manu1959]

You didn't listen to Rush Limbaugh today...or Sean Hannity...Or Michael Savage...or any other member of the right wing punditocracy.

As for Bush's "liberal activities"...there haven't been any of any significance. The signing statements he issued in an attempt to undermine congressional authority. The executive orders he signed, undermining the Constitution. The blatant disregard he and members of his administration showed for US and international law. Their willingness to prey upon the fears of the electorate to achieve their political goals. These and many more issues, which have less to do with any supposed "liberal activities" than they do with securing power in the hands of the Executive branch, were the cause of liberal ire and antipathy towards the Bush administration.

i listened to hanity...he congradulated obama on the win and noted the historic nature of his win and expressed concern with his policies....

you all are just disapointed the right is not freaking out like you all did four years ago.....

[Yurt]

i listened to hanity...he congradulated obama on the win and noted the historic nature of his win and expressed concern with his policies....

you all are just disapointed the right is not freaking out like you all did four years ago.....

now that is da troof

[Sitarro]

...The tone from the right in reaction to Barack Obama's sweeping victory in the presidential election is one of unremitting bitterness. But, as usual, their invective is aimed in the wrong direction...Outward rather than inward. The right is blaming the media, the Democrats, socialists, homosexuals, terrorists, foreign governments...everyone except themselves...for John McCain's resounding defeat last night.

Right wing pundits are calling for a return to the policies and politics of Reagan to renew the GOP, never realizing that the Bush administration and its policies are the logical, ultimate expression of Reagan's political and ideological vision. The right cannot accept that it was the utter bankruptcy of their vision that led to their defeat.

If conservatives want to truly get back to their roots, they should look, not to Reagan, but to Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley, Russel Kirk and others. Their views were the real intellectual heart of American conservatism. Instead, their vision was hijacked by the meanness, pettiness and narrowness of vision that came to characterize the Bush administration. If conservatives want to see the real cause of the repudiation of their ideology yesterday, they need look no further than the mirror.

Wow, the first post in 8 years from bullyshit that he doesn't call our President a chimp, go drink from another dozen bedpans asshole. Your President-elect is a punk and has ears exactly like a chimp.

[Nukeman]

Gee I'll bet the Bush admin doesn't remove all the O's on EVERY freaking keyboard in the white house!

Who was it that did that again (removed all the W's)???? Hmmmmm???? So who is the party with the proven record of being "bitter" and "petty". Tell me Bully who would that have been??????

[avatar4321]

Gee I'll bet the Bush admin doesn't remove all the O's on EVERY freaking keyboard in the white house!

Who was it that did that again (removed all the W's)???? Hmmmmm???? So who is the party with the proven record of being "bitter" and "petty". Tell me Bully who would that have been??????

I bet he doesnt walk off with White House furniture too.

[Hull]

Personally, what I am delighted about, is now having a liberal in the White House that's a complete, inexperienced, untested, idiot, that the conservatives can beat up on for at least four years, as the liberals have been doing to Bush for eight. The sun doesn't shine, it's Obama's fault. I burn my toast, it's Obama's fault. We get hit on American soil with another terrorist attack, it's definitely Obama's fault. I like how that works.

[manu1959]

Personally, what I am delighted about, is now having a liberal in the White House that's a complete, inexperienced, untested, idiot, that the conservatives can beat up on for at least four years, as the liberals have been doing to Bush for eight. The sun doesn't shine, it's Obama's fault. I burn my toast, it's Obama's fault. We get hit on American soil with another terrorist attack, it's definitely Obama's fault. I like how that works.

anything that goes well he will take credit for....anything that goes poorly he will blame bush......

[bullypulpit]

Considering the angst on the left regarding Bush's I'm assuming Obama will do away with this odious practice...

Well justified angst, as time has proven.

[GW in Ohio]

...The tone from the right in reaction to Barack Obama's sweeping victory in the presidential election is one of unremitting bitterness. But, as usual, their invective is aimed in the wrong direction...Outward rather than inward. The right is blaming the media, the Democrats, socialists, homosexuals, terrorists, foreign governments...everyone except themselves...for John McCain's resounding defeat last night.

Right wing pundits are calling for a return to the policies and politics of Reagan to renew the GOP, never realizing that the Bush administration and its policies are the logical, ultimate expression of Reagan's political and ideological vision. The right cannot accept that it was the utter bankruptcy of their vision that led to their defeat.

If conservatives want to truly get back to their roots, they should look, not to Reagan, but to Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley, Russel Kirk and others. Their views were the real intellectual heart of American conservatism. Instead, their vision was hijacked by the meanness, pettiness and narrowness of vision that came to characterize the Bush administration. If conservatives want to see the real cause of the repudiation of their ideology yesterday, they need look no further than the mirror.

Well said, bullypulpit. Republicans need to do some soul searching in the wake of this latest voter repudiation.

One course of action would be to stay with the politics of George W. Bush. Sarah Palin represents those politics pretty well. But I wouldn't follow that course of action.

But Republicans will only have a chance to return to power if the Democrats and Barack Obama screw up. Based on the recent history of American politics, that's always a real possibility.

[Trigg]

Well said, bullypulpit. Republicans need to do some soul searching in the wake of this latest voter repudiation.

One course of action would be to stay with the politics of George W. Bush. Sarah Palin represents those politics pretty well. But I wouldn't follow that course of action.

But Republicans will only have a chance to return to power if the Democrats and Barack Obama screw up. Based on the recent history of American politics, that's always a real possibility.

We don't need to do any soul searching. I"m beginning to think you people don't read the same threads I do.

I don't think anyone here was thrilled McCain was the nominee. In fact if memory serves we all thought he was too liberal, Palin pulled him back to the base (not that I think she was a good choice, but she is a true conservative).


Did you not see how McCain accepted defeat????? Unlike Gore who whinned for 2 months counting hanging chads in FL. That, my dear, is whinning.

[OCA]

Me too

You seriously think nobody remembers the things you say, don't ya?

[GW in Ohio]

We don't need to do any soul searching. I"m beginning to think you people don't read the same threads I do.

I don't think anyone here was thrilled McCain was the nominee. In fact if memory serves we all thought he was too liberal, Palin pulled him back to the base (not that I think she was a good choice, but she is a true conservative).


Did you not see how McCain accepted defeat????? Unlike Gore who whinned for 2 months counting hanging chads in FL. That, my dear, is whinning.

McCain accepted defeat graciously. He also lost the election by a wide margin.

Gore lost because of a few thousand questionable votes in Florida that should have been recounted. He had a right to complain.

[Yurt]

McCain accepted defeat graciously. He also lost the election by a wide margin.

Gore lost because of a few thousand questionable votes in Florida that should have been recounted. He had a right to complain.

he complained and lost...have you ever mentioned that bush stole the election?

[avatar4321]

McCain accepted defeat graciously. He also lost the election by a wide margin.

Gore lost because of a few thousand questionable votes in Florida that should have been recounted. He had a right to complain.

They were recounted. Five freaking times. He lost every single solitary count. Get the hell over it.

[Hobbit]

Pointing to Michael Savage as an example of bitter conservative reaction is like pointing to the Sahara as an example of how global warming creates hot, dry places. The Sahara is and always has been hot and dry, and I think Michael Savage had his first aneurysm prenatal.

[Kathianne]

Well justified angst, as time has proven.

So BP, think President Obama will do away with signing statements?

[Kathianne]

You seriously think nobody remembers the things you say, don't ya?

LOL! I've said all along that if Obama won I'd try hard not to call the names or have the angst that has been the staple of the Left for 8 years. I grant that prior to that, many on the Right were deranged over Clinton. I didn't like him, but while he was in office I didn't go nutty. I'll try not to with Obama either.

That doesn't mean I'll agree with much in all likelihood, but would love to be wrong about that. His failure would not be good for the country, just as Bush's failures have not been. FTR, I've said all along, 8 years, that this has been the least effective administration regarding communicating with the people. Some blame is the media, mostly the administration though.

[Immanuel]

They were recounted. Five freaking times. He lost every single solitary count. Get the hell over it.

What you don't understand is that many people believed that the sixth time would have been the charm. You know, 3rd times a charm X 2. :D But, clearly if it wasn't the 6th time it would have been the 9th time.

Immie

PS Just kidding GW. I know you didn't think that.

[stephanie]

Well said, bullypulpit. Republicans need to do some soul searching in the wake of this latest voter repudiation.

One course of action would be to stay with the politics of George W. Bush. Sarah Palin represents those politics pretty well. But I wouldn't follow that course of action.

But Republicans will only have a chance to return to power if the Democrats and Barack Obama screw up. Based on the recent history of American politics, that's always a real possibility.

ooooooooooooooo...they finally win back the white house, now they are advising us to search our souls...........:cow:

[GW in Ohio]

ooooooooooooooo...they finally win back the white house, now they are advising us to search our souls...........:cow:

Search 'em if you got 'em.......

[avatar4321]

Search 'em if you got 'em.......

Ah so that's why Democrats never change.

[diuretic]

ooooooooooooooo...they finally win back the white house, now they are advising us to search our souls...........:cow:

Well in the absence of a conscience, a soul will have to do :laugh2:

[bullypulpit]

So BP, think President Obama will do away with signing statements?

In the form they have taken in the Bush administration, I should certainly hope so.

Prior to the Bush administration presidential signing statements indicated a disagreement the POTUS had with some portion of a bill, but did not warrant vetoing the bill. Bush has used signing statements to undermine Congress, and attempt to invalidate or ignore portions of bills he signs into law. In short allowing him retroactively disregard the provisions of any bill he signs into law. The ONLY constitutional authority the POTUS has with regard to bills is to sign them in to law or veto them in their entirety. The POTUS cannot sign a bill into law and then pick and chose which laws, or their provisions, he wishes to adhere to.

[Kathianne]

In the form they have taken in the Bush administration, I should certainly hope so.

Prior to the Bush administration presidential signing statements indicated a disagreement the POTUS had with some portion of a bill, but did not warrant vetoing the bill. Bush has used signing statements to undermine Congress, and attempt to invalidate or ignore portions of bills he signs into law. In short allowing him retroactively disregard the provisions of any bill he signs into law. The ONLY constitutional authority the POTUS has with regard to bills is to sign them in to law or veto them in their entirety. The POTUS cannot sign a bill into law and then pick and chose which laws, or their provisions, he wishes to adhere to.

Hope or believe, take a stand now.

[bullypulpit]

We don't need to do any soul searching. I"m beginning to think you people don't read the same threads I do.

I don't think anyone here was thrilled McCain was the nominee. In fact if memory serves we all thought he was too liberal, Palin pulled him back to the base (not that I think she was a good choice, but she is a true conservative).


Did you not see how McCain accepted defeat????? Unlike Gore who whinned for 2 months counting hanging chads in FL. That, my dear, is whinning.

Sarah Palin IS NOT a "true conservative". She's simply an opportunistic wannabe who likes the spotlight and has nothing to offer the conservative movement beyond being as mean spirirted as the rest of the modern conservative movement. The last real conservative died on February 27, 2008.

As for McCain's concession speech...It was painfully obvious that he had, substantially, lost the election. "Whining" would have gained him nothing but scorn. Unlike the 2000 election the margin eked out by Bush, and some of the conditions under which it was secured, more than justified a rigorous recount and investigation.

[bullypulpit]

Hope or believe, take a stand now.

Know.

[stephanie]

Sarah Palin IS NOT a "true conservative". She's simply an opportunistic wannabe who like the spotlight and has nothing to offer the conservative movement beyond being as mean spirited as the rest of the modern conservative movement. The last real conservative died on February 27, 2008.

As for McCain's concession speech...It was painfully obvious that he had, substantially, lost the election. "Whining" would have gained him nothing but scorn. Unlike the 2000 election the margin eked out by Bush, and some of the conditions under which it was secured, more than justified a rigorous recount and investigation.


mean spirited is the liberals playbook, buddy..

and the little Marxist you all foisted on us, is not even qualified to run a boys scout troupe...

Sarah Palin has a hell of a lot more experience than that man-boy little Marxist, at least she is a Governor of a state..

[bullypulpit]

mean spirited is the liberals playbook, buddy..

and the little Marxist you all foisted on us, is not even qualified to run a boys scout troupe...

Sarah Palin has a hell of a lot more experience than that man-boy little Marxist, at least she is a Governor of a state..

Please provide specific examples to justify your accusation of Marxism. I'll be waiting. http://macg.net/emoticons/smoked2.gif

[stephanie]

Please provide specific examples to justify your accusation of Marxism. I'll be waiting. http://macg.net/emoticons/smoked2.gif

I noticed something today...

the little Marxist gave his underwhelming press conference today and did you see who all the people where standing behind the new President of color...



all friggin serious cranky looking..................OLD WHITE MEN.....

i gotta find that picture......I just cracked up laughing.......:laugh2:

[Kathianne]

Know.

Interesting indeed. Based upon? What is it you KNOW?

[bullypulpit]

Interesting indeed. Based upon? What is it you KNOW?

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[bullypulpit]

I noticed something today...

the little Marxist gave his underwhelming press conference today and did you see who all the people where standing behind the new President of color...



all friggin serious cranky looking..................OLD WHITE MEN.....

i gotta find that picture......I just cracked up laughing.......:laugh2:

Can't hold up your end of an argument, I see.