The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace

[-Cp]

Earlier this year, 12,000 people in San Francisco signed a petition in support of a proposition on a local ballot to rename an Oceanside sewage plant after George W. Bush. The proposition is only one example of the classless disrespect many Americans have shown the president.

According to recent Gallup polls, the president's average approval rating is below 30% -- down from his 90% approval in the wake of 9/11. Mr. Bush has endured relentless attacks from the left while facing abandonment from the right.

This is the price Mr. Bush is paying for trying to work with both Democrats and Republicans. During his 2004 victory speech, the president reached out to voters who supported his opponent, John Kerry, and said, "Today, I want to speak to every person who voted for my opponent. To make this nation stronger and better, I will need your support, and I will work to earn it. I will do all I can do to deserve your trust."

Those bipartisan efforts have been met with crushing resistance from both political parties.

The president's original Supreme Court choice of Harriet Miers alarmed Republicans, while his final nomination of Samuel Alito angered Democrats. His solutions to reform the immigration system alienated traditional conservatives, while his refusal to retreat in Iraq has enraged liberals who have unrealistic expectations about the challenges we face there.

It seems that no matter what Mr. Bush does, he is blamed for everything. He remains despised by the left while continuously disappointing the right.

Yet it should seem obvious that many of our country's current problems either existed long before Mr. Bush ever came to office, or are beyond his control. Perhaps if Americans stopped being so divisive, and congressional leaders came together to work with the president on some of these problems, he would actually have had a fighting chance of solving them.

Like the president said in his 2004 victory speech, "We have one country, one Constitution and one future that binds us. And when we come together and work together, there is no limit to the greatness of America."

To be sure, Mr. Bush is not completely alone. His low approval ratings put him in the good company of former Democratic President Harry S. Truman, whose own approval rating sank to 22% shortly before he left office. Despite Mr. Truman's low numbers, a 2005 Wall Street Journal poll found that he was ranked the seventh most popular president in history.

Just as Americans have gained perspective on how challenging Truman's presidency was in the wake of World War II, our country will recognize the hardship President Bush faced these past eight years -- and how extraordinary it was that he accomplished what he did in the wake of the September 11 attacks.

The treatment President Bush has received from this country is nothing less than a disgrace. The attacks launched against him have been cruel and slanderous, proving to the world what little character and resolve we have. The president is not to blame for all these problems. He never lost faith in America or her people, and has tried his hardest to continue leading our nation during a very difficult time.

Our failure to stand by the one person who continued to stand by us has not gone unnoticed by our enemies. It has shown to the world how disloyal we can be when our president needed loyalty -- a shameful display of arrogance and weakness that will haunt this nation long after Mr. Bush has left the White House.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122584386627599251.html

[Sitarro]

Very true, I won't forgive the left wing assholes that did this to our President and our country, I pledge to speak out against every stupid idea our new President comes up with and will never cooperate with those that want to turn the United States into a socialist third world nation.

[Noir]

so what? He's a grown man, I'm sure he can take it on the chin.

In the end if people wanted to bad mouth bush then they could, what's wrong with that?

[Nukeman]

so what? He's a grown man, I'm sure he can take it on the chin.

In the end if people wanted to bad mouth bush then they could, what's wrong with that?
There is this thing called "TACT" you know it's what you get when you "GROW UP" and realize that everything you say can have alternative consequences. Just becasue you can say a thing does not mean you should, or at least air them in the public forum.

IF you disagree with something said by the president it is OK to state that, but to belittle him on the international circuit is bad form and counter productive, especialy to our enemies. They see it as devisive and will exploit it at all cost.

when you grow up maybe you will see that "no you shouldn't always say what is on your mind". IMHO

[Gaffer]

Very true, I won't forgive the left wing assholes that did this to our President and our country, I pledge to speak out against every stupid idea our new President comes up with and will never cooperate with those that want to turn the United States into a socialist third world nation.

I'm with you on this.

[stephanie]

but now we're are supposed to just forget all they did to President Bush and all the vile things they said about us, and accept the little Marxist and his liberal minions with grace, and not be so damn bitter..as we've already had shoved in our faces..

[krisy]

My brother,my husband and I were talking about this the other day. I almost posted something similar. We thought that we were the only people,along with my mom and stepdad, left that didn't hate George Bush. I still like him,no matter what the media says. In our family,we despise the media,who I think has had a huge part in the destruction of George Bush.


Bush lowered taxes and kept our country safe after 9/11.He was frimly pro life. He always did what he thought in his heart was right,no matter how much crap he got for it. I really feel for him. I believe he has worked as hard if not harder than any other president and truly loves this country.`

I salute him and hope he knows that there are many,many people out there that respect and support him.:salute:

[Noir]

There is this thing called "TACT" you know it's what you get when you "GROW UP" and realize that everything you say can have alternative consequences. Just becasue you can say a thing does not mean you should, or at least air them in the public forum.

IF you disagree with something said by the president it is OK to state that, but to belittle him on the international circuit is bad form and counter productive, especialy to our enemies. They see it as devisive and will exploit it at all cost.

when you grow up maybe you will see that "no you shouldn't always say what is on your mind". IMHO

Yeah, everything you say and do has consequences, same goes for Bush, he is constantly judged for his choices by the public, like every other president has been and will be. To suggest that Americans should not speak out fir fear of undermining their president seems most odd indeed.

You tried to get around that by claiming you should only criticize if it will not undermine him on the internation front, this is pure bunkum.

[Nukeman]

Yeah, everything you say and do has consequences, same goes for Bush, he is constantly judged for his choices by the public, like every other president has been and will be. To suggest that Americans should not speak out fir fear of undermining their president seems most odd indeed.

You tried to get around that by claiming you should only criticize if it will not undermine him on the internation front, this is pure bunkum.REALLY!!! I never said we should "not voice our opinions because of fear". I do however feel we should provide a unified front to our enemies and potential enemies. Do you not understand the difference.

I guess it would be like me living in England and talking about what a fucking whore the queen was. You know to everyone that would listen and all the enemies of the state. After all it is just that I don't agree with her and its just me stating my opinion. I have a right to do that don't I?

If criticism is warranted than it should be from those who are in a postion to KNOW. Not some lame ass armchair quarterback.

Has President Bush made mistakes???? Is he human? I think you will find the answer to both of those questions to be YES. Our media has gone out of its way to portray Bush in the most vile light possible. If you disagree that is YOUR opinion and really doesn't mean squat to me since after all YOU don't live here and YOU don't get the full story, only that which is put out on the air waves to show him in a bad light....

[Noir]

REALLY!!! I never said we should "not voice our opinions because of fear". I do however feel we should provide a unified front to our enemies and potential enemies. Do you not understand the difference.

Indeed, thats why i said "You tried to get around that by claiming you should only criticize if it will not undermine him on the internation front" this creates grey areas, so you can argue over the grey areas.


I guess it would be like me living in England and talking about what a fucking whore the queen was. You know to everyone that would listen and all the enemies of the state. After all it is just that I don't agree with her and its just me stating my opinion. I have a right to do that don't I?

Say whatever you like about the Queen, at the end of the day she is just a person, no matter her title. Infact i am living in a country were thousands do hate the queen, some even set of bombs and shot loyalists to make their point. You have a right to say what ever you so please.


If criticism is warranted than it should be from those who are in a postion to KNOW. Not some lame ass armchair quarterback.

Who is the lame ass armchair quarterback?


Has President Bush made mistakes???? Is he human? I think you will find the answer to both of those questions to be YES. Our media has gone out of its way to portray Bush in the most vile light possible. If you disagree that is YOUR opinion and really doesn't mean squat to me since after all YOU don't live here and YOU don't get the full story, only that which is put out on the air waves to show him in a bad light....

If it dun't mean squat then i dun't say not.

[DragonStryk72]

Earlier this year, 12,000 people in San Francisco signed a petition in support of a proposition on a local ballot to rename an Oceanside sewage plant after George W. Bush. The proposition is only one example of the classless disrespect many Americans have shown the president.

According to recent Gallup polls, the president's average approval rating is below 30% -- down from his 90% approval in the wake of 9/11. Mr. Bush has endured relentless attacks from the left while facing abandonment from the right.

This is the price Mr. Bush is paying for trying to work with both Democrats and Republicans. During his 2004 victory speech, the president reached out to voters who supported his opponent, John Kerry, and said, "Today, I want to speak to every person who voted for my opponent. To make this nation stronger and better, I will need your support, and I will work to earn it. I will do all I can do to deserve your trust."

Those bipartisan efforts have been met with crushing resistance from both political parties.

The president's original Supreme Court choice of Harriet Miers alarmed Republicans, while his final nomination of Samuel Alito angered Democrats. His solutions to reform the immigration system alienated traditional conservatives, while his refusal to retreat in Iraq has enraged liberals who have unrealistic expectations about the challenges we face there.

It seems that no matter what Mr. Bush does, he is blamed for everything. He remains despised by the left while continuously disappointing the right.

Yet it should seem obvious that many of our country's current problems either existed long before Mr. Bush ever came to office, or are beyond his control. Perhaps if Americans stopped being so divisive, and congressional leaders came together to work with the president on some of these problems, he would actually have had a fighting chance of solving them.

Like the president said in his 2004 victory speech, "We have one country, one Constitution and one future that binds us. And when we come together and work together, there is no limit to the greatness of America."

To be sure, Mr. Bush is not completely alone. His low approval ratings put him in the good company of former Democratic President Harry S. Truman, whose own approval rating sank to 22% shortly before he left office. Despite Mr. Truman's low numbers, a 2005 Wall Street Journal poll found that he was ranked the seventh most popular president in history.

Just as Americans have gained perspective on how challenging Truman's presidency was in the wake of World War II, our country will recognize the hardship President Bush faced these past eight years -- and how extraordinary it was that he accomplished what he did in the wake of the September 11 attacks.

The treatment President Bush has received from this country is nothing less than a disgrace. The attacks launched against him have been cruel and slanderous, proving to the world what little character and resolve we have. The president is not to blame for all these problems. He never lost faith in America or her people, and has tried his hardest to continue leading our nation during a very difficult time.

Our failure to stand by the one person who continued to stand by us has not gone unnoticed by our enemies. It has shown to the world how disloyal we can be when our president needed loyalty -- a shameful display of arrogance and weakness that will haunt this nation long after Mr. Bush has left the White House.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122584386627599251.html

You're sure it couldn't be the sheer width and breadth of his fuck-ups, such as botching the post-war in Iraq (a.k.a. not having one), lying to get us into war (any day now on those WMDs I suppose), his repeated attempts to tell Congress how to vote, The Patriot Act that crapped on the 4th amendment, his "no free speech" zones that crapped on the 1st, and let's not forget his run of, "there are no black sites" (Until of course, he got caught with the black sites, and then they were "necessary"). Oh yes, a master of politics that one. I mean, yeah, we should love that guy for not completely fucking what was left of his campaign into the ground. If I loan a guy my car, and he crashes it four times, I do not care that he avoided the tree the fifth time around.

[Little-Acorn]

The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace

You just noticed this?

Tell me, can you name ANY Republican President in your lifetime who has been treated fairly?

I'm not even sure who you're whining to at this point. Some Republicans (including moi) have treated him roughly, some of which he deserved (exploding spending, new entitlements, campaign finance "reform" etc.) and some of which he didn't. As for Democrats, well, if they cared about disgraceful behavior, they never would have nominated Bill Clinton, or even Barack Obama with his associations with Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan and the rest.

Suck it up and quit bitching. Republicans have a lot to answer for, for the last few decades, becoming more liberal than Harry Truman or even John F. Kennedy ever were. And Democrat behavior, however disgraceful, doesn't even make the top 20 problems the Republicans face.

[gabosaurus]

Bush's treatment of the American people has been a disgrace.

[April15]

I am a whole hearted perpetrator of his anguish. The man is a disgrace to humanity and himself and the office of President of the USA. That he was elected twice doesn't say much for those who voted for him either!
When a man says work with me then tells you it's his way or no way it really puts a damper on cooperation. I could care less w2ho has won the election as long as that parriaha is gone this nation can do nothing but get better again from his sickness of greed and power.

[avatar4321]

Bush's treatment of the American people has been a disgrace.

And what exactly has the President done to the people that's so disgraceful?

[avatar4321]

I am a whole hearted perpetrator of his anguish. The man is a disgrace to humanity and himself and the office of President of the USA. That he was elected twice doesn't say much for those who voted for him either!
When a man says work with me then tells you it's his way or no way it really puts a damper on cooperation. I could care less w2ho has won the election as long as that parriaha is gone this nation can do nothing but get better again from his sickness of greed and power.

You are really delusional if you think that's what the President has done. Hell the President let Ted Kennedy write his education bill. He let Ted Kennedy write his immigration bill. He has vetoed few things the Democrat Congress has passed. And your claiming it's his way or the highway? Youve got an extremely screwed up definition of bipartisanship.

[manu1959]

i look forword the fairness doctrine being passed and 8 years of obama bashing.....

[April15]

i look forword the fairness doctrine being passed and 8 years of obama bashing.....Barack will be a one term President.

[Yurt]

Barack will be a one term President.

why do you say that?

[Abbey Marie]

The treatment President Bush has received from this country is nothing less than a disgrace. The attacks launched against him have been cruel and slanderous, proving to the world what little character and resolve we have. The president is not to blame for all these problems. He never lost faith in America or her people, and has tried his hardest to continue leading our nation during a very difficult time.


Exactly. And that has changed the regard and respect for the office of the Presidency both here and abroad. Probably permanently; I don't think you can put that cow back in the barn.

I for one, will never forget that. Dems, whether they foresaw it or like it, will now reap what they have sown.

[April15]

why do you say that?I say it because with all the problems facing US it will be impossible to correct them without alienaeting a good portion of the nation. I say this even if McCain had won. Also the last eight years have been a multiplication of division among the people. Every group I visit has become separated by party or religion. What once was a homogeneous county is now splintered like a tree struck by lightning.
Like that splintered tree growing back together, so will we, I hope. Obama will be a small part of that regrowth but an important one, in just one term.

[avatar4321]

I say it because with all the problems facing US it will be impossible to correct them without alienaeting a good portion of the nation. I say this even if McCain had won. Also the last eight years have been a multiplication of division among the people. Every group I visit has become separated by party or religion. What once was a homogeneous county is now splintered like a tree struck by lightning.
Like that splintered tree growing back together, so will we, I hope. Obama will be a small part of that regrowth but an important one, in just one term.

First, what exactly are these problems you think we are facing. (I am sure they are different that I feel we are facing). I've asked this before but no one on the left ever answers the question.

Second, do you really expect someone who campaigns on divisions to reunite the people he has already separated?

[April15]

First, what exactly are these problems you think we are facing. (I am sure they are different that I feel we are facing). I've asked this before but no one on the left ever answers the question.

Second, do you really expect someone who campaigns on divisions to reunite the people he has already separated?Well I'll give it a go. The problems this nation has are moral, ethical, religious, financial, military, and divisive. Most all can be attributed to one mans policies and the people who elected him.
On to the second. I never saw or heard Barack speak in a separatist way. If he did please show me when and where.

[krisy]

Well I'll give it a go. The problems this nation has are moral, ethical, religious, financial, military, and divisive. Most all can be attributed to one mans policies and the people who elected him.
On to the second. I never saw or heard Barack speak in a separatist way. If he did please show me when and where.

You can't be serious!!!!

All these problems arose after George Bush became president? Were you just born yesterday?!

:laugh2:

[April15]

You can't be serious!!!!

All these problems arose after George Bush became president? Were you just born yesterday?!

:laugh2:I would do well to ask you the same but I guess I have to explain that RR was the main culprit.

[Yurt]

Exactly. And that has changed the regard and respect for the office of the Presidency both here and abroad. Probably permanently; I don't think you can put that cow back in the barn.

I for one, will never forget that. Dems, whether they foresaw it or like it, will now reap what they have sown.

exactly...what famous or infamous "preacher" said that about someone getting getting attacked at a restuarant for voicing displeasure about obama.....


"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind" Hosea 8:7

(emphasis original)

[manu1959]

Barack will be a one term President.

i suspect that they will blame the first two years of doing nothing on bush then campaign the next two saying if you only give us four more years ....and if you don't elect us it will just return to the bush years.....

[Immanuel]

Just one or maybe two questions.

Are conservatives using the fact that the treatment of President Bush has been disgraceful to justify a "return favor" to President Obama?

If so, can you truly say that the treatment of President Clinton wasn't somewhat (altough maybe not to the same degree) disgraceful as well?

Okay three questions.

Is it really smart to continue to eat away at the integrity of the U.S. Government in such a manner?

Point being that WE are destroying our own government by our hate for the other side. Barack Obama won the office of the President. I don't like that fact. I will live with it and I will support him. There is nothing that I can do about it. But, we are letting the parties (who are responsible for this division) destroy America. Get over your hatred! Don't let the Republican Party and its spokesmen (Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Savage et al) convince you to participate in the destruction of America.

If you respect the document that you have been so adamently defending for the last year, then pick yourself up by your bootstraps, take a deep breath, say a prayer and measure your words before you speak against the President of the United States of America.

In about a year, the mid term campaign will be getting underway. That will be the time for us to start electing people who will counter act the liberal swing that we felt last Tuesday.

The liberals won this year. They beat us at our game in our stadium in front of a fanatic home crowd and they beat us handily. Time to start preparing for the next game!

Now, God willing, if I can only take my own advice.

God Bless America :salute:

Immie

[avatar4321]

Barack will be a one term President.

Well he sure thinks he is still going to be President 10 years from now.

[April15]

i suspect that they will blame the first two years of doing nothing on bush then campaign the next two saying if you only give us four more years ....and if you don't elect us it will just return to the bush years.....As a person who voted democratic I sure hope we, this nation, can get over the petty BS of the Bush era and act like the grownups we are. it would really be counter productive to blame anyone but ourselfs for most of our ills. And as Pelosi has said it is time to act and by god if she don't two years from now it will be a totally new house of representatives!

[Immanuel]

As a person who voted democratic I sure hope we, this nation, can get over the petty BS of the Bush era and act like the grownups we are. it would really be counter productive to blame anyone but ourselfs for most of our ills. And as Pelosi has said it is time to act and by god if she don't two years from now it will be a totally new house of representatives!

Don't count on it.

Immie

[bullypulpit]

Yes, it is a disgrace that he and most of his cabinet haven't been impeached.

[April15]

Don't count on it.

ImmieI am not afraid to vote any politician out of office for failing to do the right thing.

[eighballsidepocket]

Earlier this year, 12,000 people in San Francisco signed a petition in support of a proposition on a local ballot to rename an Oceanside sewage plant after George W. Bush. The proposition is only one example of the classless disrespect many Americans have shown the president.

According to recent Gallup polls, the president's average approval rating is below 30% -- down from his 90% approval in the wake of 9/11. Mr. Bush has endured relentless attacks from the left while facing abandonment from the right.

This is the price Mr. Bush is paying for trying to work with both Democrats and Republicans. During his 2004 victory speech, the president reached out to voters who supported his opponent, John Kerry, and said, "Today, I want to speak to every person who voted for my opponent. To make this nation stronger and better, I will need your support, and I will work to earn it. I will do all I can do to deserve your trust."

Those bipartisan efforts have been met with crushing resistance from both political parties.

The president's original Supreme Court choice of Harriet Miers alarmed Republicans, while his final nomination of Samuel Alito angered Democrats. His solutions to reform the immigration system alienated traditional conservatives, while his refusal to retreat in Iraq has enraged liberals who have unrealistic expectations about the challenges we face there.

It seems that no matter what Mr. Bush does, he is blamed for everything. He remains despised by the left while continuously disappointing the right.

Yet it should seem obvious that many of our country's current problems either existed long before Mr. Bush ever came to office, or are beyond his control. Perhaps if Americans stopped being so divisive, and congressional leaders came together to work with the president on some of these problems, he would actually have had a fighting chance of solving them.

Like the president said in his 2004 victory speech, "We have one country, one Constitution and one future that binds us. And when we come together and work together, there is no limit to the greatness of America."

To be sure, Mr. Bush is not completely alone. His low approval ratings put him in the good company of former Democratic President Harry S. Truman, whose own approval rating sank to 22% shortly before he left office. Despite Mr. Truman's low numbers, a 2005 Wall Street Journal poll found that he was ranked the seventh most popular president in history.

Just as Americans have gained perspective on how challenging Truman's presidency was in the wake of World War II, our country will recognize the hardship President Bush faced these past eight years -- and how extraordinary it was that he accomplished what he did in the wake of the September 11 attacks.

The treatment President Bush has received from this country is nothing less than a disgrace. The attacks launched against him have been cruel and slanderous, proving to the world what little character and resolve we have. The president is not to blame for all these problems. He never lost faith in America or her people, and has tried his hardest to continue leading our nation during a very difficult time.

Our failure to stand by the one person who continued to stand by us has not gone unnoticed by our enemies. It has shown to the world how disloyal we can be when our president needed loyalty -- a shameful display of arrogance and weakness that will haunt this nation long after Mr. Bush has left the White House.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122584386627599251.html

Live about 45 miles South of S.F. in San Jose, California, or what is called the South Bay Area.

Fortunately the people of S.F. voted down that measure, and GWB's name will not be used for this sewage treatment plant.

Originally, the measure was intended to basically disgrace our President, but after the measure's defeat, the local S.F. news has been saying that now the politico's in S.F. claim they are glad it was defeated.

Well, their gladness isn't what you might expect. They are trying to ressurrect their humiliating defeat by saying that their "state of the art" sewage treatment plant doesn't deserve to have GWB's name on it. I.E. our President would be-smirch this plant and it's progressive, environmental advancements.

These people can and will never admit that they are a vitreolic, imbittered bunch of over the hill 1960's hippies in the vain of Bill Ayers. They are unrepentent, and are so elitist at the core that they don't know what humility or humbleness is. To them, their Berkeley intellect reigns supreme, and Marxian, anti-Constitutional thinking is vogue'.

[April15]

Live about 45 miles South of S.F. in San Jose, California, or what is called the South Bay Area.

Fortunately the people of S.F. voted down that measure, and GWB's name will not be used for this sewage treatment plant.

Originally, the measure was intended to basically disgrace our President, but after the measure's defeat, the local S.F. news has been saying that now the politico's in S.F. claim they are glad it was defeated.

Well, their gladness isn't what you might expect. They are trying to ressurrect their humiliating defeat by saying that their "state of the art" sewage treatment plant doesn't deserve to have GWB's name on it. I.E. our President would be-smirch this plant and it's progressive, environmental advancements.

These people can and will never admit that they are a vitreolic, imbittered bunch of over the hill 1960's hippies in the vain of Bill Ayers. They are unrepentent, and are so elitist at the core that they don't know what humility or humbleness is. To them, their Berkeley intellect reigns supreme, and Marxian, anti-Constitutional thinking is vogue'.

I live in Burlingame. I know and can say that the idea of Bush's name on the plant was considered inappropriate for the workers long ago. The concept that the plant runs on is beyond his ability to comprehend and as such would be a detriment to ecology for it to bear his name. It was a great idea at first but most thought it better to just say "no".