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Little-Acorn
11-03-2008, 05:01 PM
Just heard it on ABC news.

My sympathies go out to him. From what I've heard, she was really the one who raised him as a child, took care of him etc. He can't be feeling very good right now.

In other news, he's still a socialist who should not be President of the U.S.

Article here:

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http://cbs2chicago.com/local/obama.grandmother.died.2.855394.html

Obama's Grandmother Dies On Eve Of Election

Nov 3, 2008 3:40 pm US/Central

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) ― On the eve of the biggest day of this political life, Barack Obama says his grandmother died Monday.

Obama flew to Hawaii last week to visit Madelyn Dunham, 85, who helped raise Obama. The Illinois senator said he left the campaign trail with less than two weeks remaining before the election because his grandmother is ill but alert. Her brother has said she recently fell and broke a hip.

"Without going through the details too much, she's gravely ill. We weren't sure and I'm still not sure whether she makes it to Election Day," Obama told ABC's "Good Morning America" in an interview broadcast Friday.

"We're all praying and we hope she does, but one of the things I want to make sure of is I had a chance to sit down with her and to talk to her. She's still alert and she's still got all her faculties. And I want to make sure that I don't miss that opportunity," he said.

Obama has said he missed a chance to visit his mother just before she died of ovarian cancer - she was 53 when she died in 1995 - and didn't want to repeat that mistake. Dunham was staying at her Honolulu apartment.

While campaigning for the U.S. Senate and for president, Obama often told warm, loving stories about his grandmother. His Philadelphia speech about race relations, in the wake of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright fallout, was different. He said she was, on occasion, frightened to see black men approaching on the street.

Her brother, Chicagoan Charles Payne, said recently that Dunham's reaction to her role in her grandson's race speech was "no more than just sort of raised eyebrows."

Obama was born in Hawaii. His Kansas-born mother and Kenyan father met as college students there, but Dunham and her husband, Stanley, raised Obama for extended periods when his mother lived overseas.

In his memoir "Dreams from My Father," Obama described his grandfather as something of a dreamer. It was his grandmother who was practical enough to support the family by working her way up in the ranks at a local bank.

Obama has often mentioned "Toot" - his version of the Hawaiian word "tutu," or grandparent - as an example of a strong woman succeeding through intelligence and determination. Many of his speeches describe her working on a bomber assembly line during World War II.

"She's really been one of the cornerstones of my life. She's a remarkable woman," he said.

Sitarro
11-03-2008, 05:04 PM
This makes it even stranger that his wife and two kids didn't go to Hawaii, it's pretty sick actually.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4A26GV20081103?sp=true


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's grandmother died of cancer, he said in a statement on Monday, a little more than a week after Obama interrupted the White House race to say goodbye to her in Hawaii.

"It is with great sadness that we announce that our grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, has died peacefully after a battle with cancer," Obama said in a joint statement with his sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng. "She was the cornerstone of our family, and a woman of extraordinary accomplishment, strength, and humility."

Sitarro
11-03-2008, 05:05 PM
Damn it Acorn, you beat me by three minutes!

Abbey Marie
11-03-2008, 05:55 PM
I'm sure she died from being thrown under that bus. Either from actual wounds, or from a broken heart.

-Cp
11-03-2008, 05:58 PM
This makes it even stranger that his wife and two kids didn't go to Hawaii, it's pretty sick actually.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4A26GV20081103?sp=true


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's grandmother died of cancer, he said in a statement on Monday, a little more than a week after Obama interrupted the White House race to say goodbye to her in Hawaii.

"It is with great sadness that we announce that our grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, has died peacefully after a battle with cancer," Obama said in a joint statement with his sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng. "She was the cornerstone of our family, and a woman of extraordinary accomplishment, strength, and humility."

What's so sick about them not going to Hawaii?

Immanuel
11-03-2008, 06:26 PM
My sympathies go out to him and his family.

I can not even imagine how hard this is on him.

Immie

Sitarro
11-03-2008, 06:35 PM
What's so sick about them not going to Hawaii?

She was one of the most influential people in Barry's life, I would think if there was a shred of normalcy in this family's life the guy's wife would have dropped the white hatred thing to allow her children to say goodbye to their great grandmother. I would have definitely wanted my wife and children with me to see this special woman.

avatar4321
11-03-2008, 06:43 PM
Sounds like its going to be a tough week for Obama.

namvet
11-03-2008, 07:11 PM
no sympathy from the left????? it figures

Gaffer
11-03-2008, 07:15 PM
He lost a vote, but I'm sure acorn is working hard to get it covered.

Immanuel
11-03-2008, 07:19 PM
He lost a vote, but I'm sure acorn is working hard to get it covered.

What makes you so sure that she was voting for him?

On the other hand, maybe that was why he went down there in the first place. To make sure she voted absentee before she was taken to her final resting place. I wonder if maybe he actually voted for her?

As I said in the other thread, my sympathies go out to him and his family. As for his Grandmother, I pray she is in a much better place than this ole world.

Immie

Gaffer
11-03-2008, 07:53 PM
What makes you so sure that she was voting for him?

On the other hand, maybe that was why he went down there in the first place. To make sure she voted absentee before she was taken to her final resting place. I wonder if maybe he actually voted for her?

As I said in the other thread, my sympathies go out to him and his family. As for his Grandmother, I pray she is in a much better place than this ole world.

Immie

Good points. If she did vote absentee I'm sure he helped her fill out the form. I'm sure acorn will represent her 5 or 6 times as well. Dead voters are their specialty.

hjmick
11-03-2008, 07:59 PM
Come on people, show a little class. Whether you like him or not, the loss of one so close is a terrible blow. One I would not wish upon my worst enemy. I don't want him sitting in the big chair any more than any of you, but show so compassion.

Gaffer
11-03-2008, 08:07 PM
Come on people, show a little class. Whether you like him or not, the loss of one so close is a terrible blow. One I would not wish upon my worst enemy. I don't want him sitting in the big chair any more than any of you, but show so compassion.

If he stopped campaigning and said hey I got to take some time for this, I'll let joe and my wife handle this for a while. Then I might have some compassion. He's not only carrying on his campaign as usual but he's campaigning tomorrow as well. Can't have a little thing like the death of the woman who raised him get in the way of his running for president. Shows me where his priorities are.

hjmick
11-03-2008, 08:18 PM
If he stopped campaigning and said hey I got to take some time for this, I'll let joe and my wife handle this for a while. Then I might have some compassion. He's not only carrying on his campaign as usual but he's campaigning tomorrow as well. Can't have a little thing like the death of the woman who raised him get in the way of his running for president. Shows me where his priorities are.


I can't speak to Obama's choice to continue campaigning, perhaps his grandmother told him he should continue in the event of her death. I can tell you this, everyone grieves differently. Ten weeks ago my father died. I went to work the next day. Not because I had work to do, I haven't had a new work since February. Not out of any sense of loyalty, I can't stand the company that bought us out. I went because I didn't know what else to do, I went because there was nothing else I could do. The loss I felt, and still feel today, was not diminished by the choices I made. I just didn't know what else to do.

Yurt
11-03-2008, 08:24 PM
it is unfortunate this typical white person passed from this world

Yurt
11-03-2008, 08:32 PM
I can't speak to Obama's choice to continue campaigning, perhaps his grandmother told him he should continue in the event of her death. I can tell you this, everyone grieves differently. Ten weeks ago my father died. I went to work the next day. Not because I had work to do, I haven't had a new work since February. Not out of any sense of loyalty, I can't stand the company that bought us out. I went because I didn't know what else to do, I went because there was nothing else I could do. The loss I felt, and still feel today, was not diminished by the choices I made. I just didn't know what else to do.

my grandma passed during lawschool finals, i could not go to so cal as i could not get out of any final, i understand, i felt like shit, my mom said it was ok and that grandma would want me to focus on school, but funny things, i know it pissed off other members because the next time there was a gathering i heard more than a couple of comments about yurt and his "extraordinary" focus on school....

Yurt
11-03-2008, 08:54 PM
obama wipes a tear

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Democratic-presidential-candidate-Sen-Barack-Obama/photo//081104/480/ec3f10f33338419390f90c9f93ad9849//s:/ap/20081104/ap_on_el_pr/obama_grandmother;_ylt=Av0_xOXFoafObLCScFzMNCBh24c A

Mr. P
11-03-2008, 09:33 PM
I can't speak to Obama's choice to continue campaigning, perhaps his grandmother told him he should continue in the event of her death. I can tell you this, everyone grieves differently. Ten weeks ago my father died. I went to work the next day. Not because I had work to do, I haven't had a new work since February. Not out of any sense of loyalty, I can't stand the company that bought us out. I went because I didn't know what else to do, I went because there was nothing else I could do. The loss I felt, and still feel today, was not diminished by the choices I made. I just didn't know what else to do.

I know exactly what you mean. I was on my way to work for a flight when I heard my Dad had died. Besides not knowing what else to do, I realized there was nothing I could do. That's the short version.

Immanuel
11-03-2008, 09:46 PM
Come on people, show a little class. Whether you like him or not, the loss of one so close is a terrible blow. One I would not wish upon my worst enemy. I don't want him sitting in the big chair any more than any of you, but show so compassion.

I did show some compassion. I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Did you think I was not sincere when I said this?:


As I said in the other thread, my sympathies go out to him and his family. As for his Grandmother, I pray she is in a much better place than this ole world.

Immie

Sitarro
11-03-2008, 09:49 PM
I can't speak to Obama's choice to continue campaigning, perhaps his grandmother told him he should continue in the event of her death. I can tell you this, everyone grieves differently. Ten weeks ago my father died. I went to work the next day. Not because I had work to do, I haven't had a new work since February. Not out of any sense of loyalty, I can't stand the company that bought us out. I went because I didn't know what else to do, I went because there was nothing else I could do. The loss I felt, and still feel today, was not diminished by the choices I made. I just didn't know what else to do.

I feel for you hjmick, my dad's death was the most devastating thing in my life so far, it's been 5 and a half years and not a day goes by that I don't want to talk to him about what is going on in my life. When I watch "Dogfights" on the history channel it always brings a tear to my eye knowing how much my dad would have enjoyed that show, the interviews with the fighter pilots and the amazing graphics would have made it his very favorite show.
I would like to tell you it gets better but it hasn't for me so far, I just treasure the last 6 years of his life that I was able to share with him because of a decision to move back across the country.

hjmick
11-03-2008, 10:02 PM
I did show some compassion. I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Did you think I was not sincere when I said this?:


Immie

No offense intended Immie, I did not doubt your sincerity. Mine was just a general comment, too lazy to name names. For that matter, no offense was meant to anyone. I guess I just wanted people to think about what they posted. I suppose the sense of loss is still fresh and raw for me.


I feel for you hjmick, my dad's death was the most devastating thing in my life so far, it's been 5 and a half years and not a day goes by that I don't want to talk to him about what is going on in my life. When I watch "Dogfights" on the history channel it always brings a tear to my eye knowing how much my dad would have enjoyed that show, the interviews with the fighter pilots and the amazing graphics would have made it his very favorite show.
I would like to tell you it gets better but it hasn't for me so far, I just treasure the last 6 years of his life that I was able to share with him because of a decision to move back across the country.

I hear ya, Sit. And thanks for the kind words. I didn't realize what a good friends we had become until he was gone. I still reach for the phone to call him. I hope that stops soon.

Immanuel
11-03-2008, 10:12 PM
No offense intended Immie, I did not doubt your sincerity. Mine was just a general comment, too lazy to name names. For that matter, no offense was meant to anyone. I guess I just wanted people to think about what they posted. I suppose the sense of loss is still fresh and raw for me.



No offense taken, but, I was concerned that if I had offended someone, that I would have at the very least apologized.

Immie

-Cp
11-03-2008, 10:51 PM
She was one of the most influential people in Barry's life, I would think if there was a shred of normalcy in this family's life the guy's wife would have dropped the white hatred thing to allow her children to say goodbye to their great grandmother. I would have definitely wanted my wife and children with me to see this special woman.

But there was nobody left to say goodbye to? She's already dead...

Can only say goodbye to someone when they're still alive...

Sitarro
11-03-2008, 11:03 PM
But there was nobody left to say goodbye to? She's already dead...

Can only say goodbye to someone when they're still alive...

Barry went to see her on October 20th knowing that she was gravely ill, Michelle continued campaigning and the daughters stayed here in the states rather than accompanying their father to see their Great Grandmother. That was what I was talking about, if I was married with kids they would have come with me to visit a person as important as this lady was in his life.

-Cp
11-04-2008, 03:55 AM
Barry went to see her on October 20th knowing that she was gravely ill, Michelle continued campaigning and the daughters stayed here in the states rather than accompanying their father to see their Great Grandmother. That was what I was talking about, if I was married with kids they would have come with me to visit a person as important as this lady was in his life.

Maybe he didn't want their last memory of their grandmother to be in the state she was in? dunno.. but not a big deal to me either way - it's a private family matter and IMO should stay that way..

Sitarro
11-04-2008, 04:25 AM
Maybe he didn't want their last memory of their grandmother to be in the state she was in? dunno.. but not a big deal to me either way - it's a private family matter and IMO should stay that way..


It was an observation and she was his grandmother, their great grandmother........
What about the great grandmother, maybe she would have liked to see the kids one more time......... I'm sure she didn't care to see the jerk wife, but her great grand kids? Yea, it's none of my business and what types of guns I have is none of his business, it's also none of his business how much money I make. He is putting his weird ass out there to be judged, he is the one that has been around more anarchist, socialist, racist and communist assholes than anyone I have ever met, is that also none of our business? What if he and his wife inject each other with heroin each night, is that a private family matter, is it our business? It is just one more quirky thing to judge a guy who has given us so little to work with and because he is running for the highest office in the world, I want to know as much as possible. It represents his judgement once again and I would like to know why.