Terrorist Ayers Calls Police For Help

[red states rule]

It was so funny to watch

Obama buddy Bill Ayers called the police to protect him from a Fox reporter. The very people who he tried to kill, tried to blow up with bombs are the people he turns to for help.

The SOB has said over and over he wishes he could have done more, and is not sorry for the bombing - he is lucky it is only a reporter around his house that is he scared of

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[red states rule]

So to libs like Chris Matthews and liberal media rags like the NYT; Ayers is a distraction but Gov Palins wardrobe is front page news?

[Joe Steel]

So to libs like Chris Matthews and liberal media rags like the NYT; Ayers is a distraction but Gov Palins wardrobe is front page news?

You mean the terrorist-coddling Sarah Palin?


Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, who has accused Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama of "palling around with terrorists," has refused to call people who bomb abortion clinics by the same name.

When asked Thursday night by NBC television presenter Brian Williams whether an abortion clinic bomber was a terrorist, Palin heaved a sigh and, at first, circumvented the question.

"There's no question that Bill Ayers by his own admittance was one who sought to destroy our US Capitol and our Pentagon. That is a domestic terrorist," Palin said, referring to a 1960s leftist who founded a radical violent gang dubbed the "Weathermen" -- and who years later supported Obama's first run for public office in the state of Illinois.

"Now, others who would want to engage in harming innocent Americans or facilities that it would be unacceptable to... I don't know if you're gonna use the word 'terrorist' there," the ardently pro-life running mate of John McCain said.

Abortion clinic bombers not terrorists, Palin says (http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Abortion_clinic_bombers_not_terrori_10252008.html)

Why not Sarah?

Why aren't all domestic bombers terrorists?

Is it just that you're sympathetic with the purpose of the bombing?

[Kathianne]

http://debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=19013&highlight=abortion

It's really past time to work this angle.

[Joe Steel]

http://debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=19013&highlight=abortion

It's really past time to work this angle.

Which is?

What's your point? Are you saying Palin is a terrorist-coddler?

[red states rule]

I find it interesting, yet understandable, libs change the subject about the terrorist Ayers; and do not want to talk about his friendship with Obama

[Kathianne]

Which is?

What's your point? Are you saying Palin is a terrorist-coddler?

The stupid analogy of abortion killings. Pffft.

[Joe Steel]

I find it interesting, yet understandable, libs change the subject about the terrorist Ayers; and do not want to talk about his friendship with Obama

As I find interesting Conservatives' insistence on ignoring McCain's friendship with domestic terrorist G. Godon Liddy and Palin's apparent tolerance of abortion clinic bombers.

[Joe Steel]

The stupid analogy of abortion killings. Pffft.

Stupid?

Discussion of Americans bombing other Americans is stupid?

[Kathianne]

Stupid?

Discussion of Americans bombing other Americans is stupid?

Read the link, the comparison is fruit and wax fruit. Done.

[Joe Steel]

Read the link, the comparison is fruit and wax fruit. Done.

All the bombs are real but Ayers never killed anyone. Palin's heros did.


Violent protests, in the form of arson, firebombing, and vandalism started in the early 1970's in the U.S. Then, as now, most of the violence appears to be the acts of religiously-motivated criminals acting alone. However, recent cases involving the assassination and attempted murder of abortion providers in both the U.S. and Canada have shown that perpetrators appear to be sheltered by a network of sympathizers.

VIOLENCE & HARASSMENT AT U.S. ABORTION CLINICS (http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm)

How deeply involved is Sarah Palin in the network of sympathizers? As Governor of Alaska, would she divert police efforts from pursuing the terrorists if she could? Would she pardon them if she could?

[Kathianne]

All the bombs are real but Ayers never killed anyone. Palin's heros did.

His didn't because he was incompetent, he regrets that he didn't do better.

Show me one place where Palin supported those that wished to harm abortion clinic workers. You'll have to dig deep, hasn't happened since 1993.

[Joe Steel]

His didn't because he was incompetent, he regrets that he didn't do better.

Show me one place where Palin supported those that wished to harm abortion clinic workers. You'll have to dig deep, hasn't happened since 1993.

See my prior posting. I edited it after you responded.

[red states rule]

Ayers bombs Police stations and tries to kill cops - now he calls them to remove a reporter from his property

What a laugh! Libs fail to see the humor in this - and fail to see how Obama surrounds himself with people who have such a low opinion of America

[Joe Steel]

Ayers bombs Police stations and tries to kill cops - now he calls them to remove a reporter from his property

What a laugh! Libs fail to see the humor in this - and fail to see how Obama surrounds himself with people who have such a low opinion of America

Obama repudiated Ayers' acts.

Palin hasn't repudiated the acts of anti-abortion terrorists and, in fact, hasn't even acknowledged them as terrorism.

That's not funny.

[red states rule]

Obama repudiated Ayers' acts.

Palin hasn't repudiated the acts of anti-abortion terrorists and, in fact, hasn't even acknowledged them as terrorism.

That's not funny.

Only after talk radio brought out his past. Obama got his political career staretd in Ayers house, wrote a glowing forward in Ayers book, and shared an office with him for years

I do not see Gov Plain having a chummy friendship with any bombers as Obama does

[Joe Steel]

Only after talk radio brought out his past. Obama got his political career staretd in Ayers house, wrote a glowing forward in Ayers book, and shared an office with him for years

I do not see Gov Plain having a chummy friendship with any bombers as Obama does

I linked an article reporting her failure to declare the bombers terrorists. Given her power as Governor of Alaska and willingness to abuse it for personal reasons, we have to be concerned. Will we see an wave of domestic terrorism now that terrorists know the may have a safe haven in Alaska?

[Kathianne]

I linked an article reporting her failure to declare the bombers terrorists. Given her power as Governor of Alaska and willingness to abuse it for personal reasons, we have to be concerned. Will we see an wave of domestic terrorism now that terrorists know the may have a safe haven in Alaska?

She wasn't governor in '93 and there were no bombings in Alaska. You are being a twit and you revel in it.

[red states rule]

I linked an article reporting her failure to declare the bombers terrorists. Given her power as Governor of Alaska and willingness to abuse it for personal reasons, we have to be concerned. Will we see an wave of domestic terrorism now that terrorists know the may have a safe haven in Alaska?

When was the last time an abortion clinic was bombed? Has Gov Palin shared a stage with a bomber? Has she shared an office with a bomber? Has she wrote an intro for a book written by a bomber?

I bet if she had you would be screaming. But sicne Obama did all the above you ignore it and try to change the subject when asked about it

[Joe Steel]

She wasn't governor in '93 and there were no bombings in Alaska. You are being a twit and you revel in it.

You are being unreasonably dismissive of Palin's disturbing behavior. Why isn't she condemning domestic terrorists who terrorize Americans she doesn't happen to like.

[Joe Steel]

When was the last time an abortion clinic was bombed?

I provided a link to a report of abortion clinic violence. Read it.

[red states rule]

I provided a link to a report of abortion clinic violence. Read it.

Now here is the part of my post you ignored

Has Gov Palin shared a stage with a bomber? Has she shared an office with a bomber? Has she wrote an intro for a book written by a bomber?

I bet if she had you would be screaming. But since Obama did all the above you ignore it and try to change the subject when asked about it

[Kathianne]

You are being unreasonably dismissive of Palin's disturbing behavior. Why isn't she condemning domestic terrorists who terrorize Americans she doesn't happen to like.

Because your posts are irrelevant. There hasn't been any bombings, killings in over 15 years. Now if you find that she was pro-bombing back then or has said that it's a fine response to abortions, please, :link: .

Considering as governor she has said that the law of the land should be enforced, you are being a twit.

[Joe Steel]

When was the last time an abortion clinic was bombed? Has Gov Palin shared a stage with a bomber? Has she sheard an office with a bomber? Has she wrote an intro for a book written by a bomber?

I bet if she had you would be screaming. But sicne Obama did all the above you ignore it and try to change the subject when asked about it

You're distorting reality with an unreasonable moral equivalency. Obama's relationship with Ayers does not have the potential to harm the US. Palin's apparent respect for abortion terrorists does. I can't let you hide that reality.

[Joe Steel]

Because your posts are irrelevant. There hasn't been any bombings, killings in over 15 years. Now if you find that she was pro-bombing back then or has said that it's a fine response to abortions, please, :link: .

I already provided a link.

Read it.

[red states rule]

You're distorting reality with an unreasonable moral equivalency. Obama's relationship with Ayers does not have the potential to harm the US. Palin's apparent respect for abortion terrorists does. I can't let you hide that reality.

Obama has done all that with Ayers. You are now boxed into a corner and trying to wiggle off the hook

Obama lied about how close he is to Ayers and it is coming out. Obama has many friends who hate America - and that is a fact

[Kathianne]

I already provided a link.

Read it.

Read mine, I read yours long ago.

[Joe Steel]

Read mine, I read yours long ago.

I don't believe you.

It provides evidence of abortion provider murder after 1993.

"1998-OCT-23: Dr Barnett Slepian from Amherst NY (near Buffalo) was murdered."

[Immanuel]

As I find interesting Conservatives' insistence on ignoring McCain's friendship with domestic terrorist G. Godon Liddy and Palin's apparent tolerance of abortion clinic bombers.

I would not consider what G. Gordon Liddy did to be domestic terrorism. Many innocent people get caught up in crimes and become criminals. G. Gordon Liddy did and there is no doubt about that. However, that does not make him a terrorist.


Obama repudiated Ayers' acts.

Palin hasn't repudiated the acts of anti-abortion terrorists and, in fact, hasn't even acknowledged them as terrorism.

That's not funny.

Obama only repudiated Ayers' acts because it was costing him in the campaign. It is no different than what he did in leaving Trinity UCC. Come November 5th they will be best buddies again and on November 9th Obama will probably be at Trinity UCC celebrating his victory.

What Gov. Palin said is completely unacceptable. Abortion clinic bombings and the murder of abortionists is absolutely nothing short of terrorism. These crimes are committed for the sole purpose of terrorizing abortion providers, their employees and those who would aid them. Gov. Palin should retract her statement and apologize to the entire country for that remark.

I am pro-life and pray daily that the abortion tragedy will end, but not at the expense of other human lives.

Note: I do not know anything about the website you chose to link this article from. I didn't even do my normal search through their "about us" page and I did not search for any other articles about the statements. I am taking them at their word on this one. I do not know for sure that she made those comments or not. If she did, the statements are unacceptable.

Immie

[Joe Steel]

Obama has done all that with Ayers. You are now boxed into a corner and trying to wiggle off the hook

Obama lied about how close he is to Ayers and it is coming out. Obama has many friends who hate America - and that is a fact

Utter nonsense.

Obama's trivial and long-disolved relationship with Ayers has no implications for public policy. In light of Palin's record of abusing her power, her apparent acceptance of anti-abortion terrorism is disturbing and ominous.

[stephanie]

All the bombs are real but Ayers never killed anyone. Palin's heros did.



How deeply involved is Sarah Palin in the network of sympathizers? As Governor of Alaska, would she divert police efforts from pursuing the terrorists if she could? Would she pardon them if she could?

get your party to make a television ad about it, it is so relevant and comparable..

kinda like the G Gordy Liddy connection, that one flopped for you also...

[Joe Steel]

I would not consider what G. Gordon Liddy did to be domestic terrorism. Many innocent people get caught up in crimes and become criminals. G. Gordon Liddy did and there is no doubt about that. However, that does not make him a terrorist.

Liddy conspired to murder columnist Jack Anderson and others to advance his political goals. That's domestic terrorism.

[Immanuel]

Liddy conspired to murder columnist Jack Anderson and others to advance his political goals. That's domestic terrorism.

I know nothing of that crime and if it is true he should be in jail. Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime... it is not terrorism.

Terrorism is when you use crime to scare people from something. The KKK is a terrorist organization. Abortion bombers are terrorists even if they are working alone because it is their goal to scare a large group of people from doing something the terrorist doesn't want them to do.

Conspiring to commit murder is a crime it is NOT terrorism.

Immie

[Kathianne]

Utter nonsense.

Obama's trivial and long-disolved relationship with Ayers has no implications for public policy. In light of Palin's record of abusing her power, her apparent acceptance of anti-abortion terrorism is disturbing and ominous.

You are either ignorant or a twit, my bet is on the later.

[theHawk]

Liddy conspired to murder columnist Jack Anderson and others to advance his political goals. That's domestic terrorism.

He also went to jail. Ayers hasn't. I don't believe McCain has worked with him on many occasions either. They didn't conspire together to instil communist and socialist ideals into American society as Ayers-Obama did.

McCain is in no way Liddy's Manchurian Candidate as Obama is Ayer's. Ayer's has always had a specific political goal to acheive in America, as he laid out in his communist manifesto Prairie Fire (http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/). It is quite clear that Obama fits into Ayer's plans to end Capitalism in the US and implement socialism.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=18943

[Kathianne]

I don't believe you.

It provides evidence of abortion provider murder after 1993.

"1998-OCT-23: Dr Barnett Slepian from Amherst NY (near Buffalo) was murdered."

Aack, could be my eyes. So it's been 10 years, not 15. Big difference, well other than to the Dr.'s family of course.

[Joe Steel]

I know nothing of that crime and if it is true he should be in jail. Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime... it is not terrorism.

Liddy admitted the conspiracy in his autobiography. I don't know that any prosecutor has looked at the claim. Maybe they don't think they could gather sufficient evidence.

[Joe Steel]

He also went to jail. Ayers hasn't. I don't believe McCain has worked with him on many occasions either. They didn't conspire together to instil communist and socialist ideals into American society as Ayers-Obama did.

In May 2007, McCain went on Liddy's radio program and "praised Liddy’s 'adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,' said he was 'proud' of Liddy."

Liddy is a convicted felon, a self-admitted participant in a murder conspiracy and an admirer of Adolf Hitler. Why is McCain proud of such a person?

[Kathianne]

I must admit I've been impressed with how JS seemed to know so much regarding Libby. I found out:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/05/g-gordon-liddy-is-mccains-own.php

[Joe Steel]

I must admit I've been impressed with how JS seemed to know so much regarding Libby. I found out:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/05/g-gordon-liddy-is-mccains-own.php

Facts are facts.

What's the problem?

[theHawk]

In May 2007, McCain went on Liddy's radio program and "praised Liddy’s 'adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,' said he was 'proud' of Liddy."

Liddy is a convicted felon, a self-admitted participant in a murder conspiracy and an admirer of Adolf Hitler. Why is McCain proud of such a person?

I'd say it was stupid of McCain to do that.

Are you justifying Obama's blunders by pointing out McCain's?


Do you honestly believe McCain would carry out some hidden agenda of Liddy's if elected?

Do you honestly believe Obama won't carry out the public agenda of Ayers if elected?

[Joe Steel]

I'd say it was stupid of McCain to do that.

Are you justifying Obama's blunders by pointing out McCain's?

To the extent associations are indicator of character, as the McCain campaign is saying, I'm saying Obama's is the better. His association with Ayers is trivial and far less disturbing than McCain's association with Liddy.


Do you honestly believe McCain would carry out some hidden agenda of Liddy's if elected?

Do you honestly believe Obama won't carry out the public agenda of Ayers if elected?

No and no.

I don't think McCain would institutionalize political assassination but I'm concerned by McCain's willingness to associate with hate-radio talk show hosts.

I do think Obama will pursue an education agenda. That's Ayers' agenda.

[Kathianne]

To the extent associations are indicator of character, as the McCain campaign is saying, I'm saying Obama's is the better. His association with Ayers is trivial and far less disturbing than McCain's association with Liddy. Wrong on both. McCain's was a partisan connection, not a personal or philosophical one.



...

I don't think McCain would institutionalize political assassination but I'm concerned by McCain's willingness to associate with hate-radio talk show hosts.

I do think Obama will pursue an education agenda. That's Ayers' agenda.
So it's not just Liddy, it's 'talk show hosts', what you really mean is they should be 'silenced.' Never fear, that's on the menu.

You are correct, both Obama and Ayers believe schools should be used for indoctrination and radicalization.

[Joe Steel]

Wrong on both. McCain's was a partisan connection, not a personal or philosophical one.

McCain praised Liddy's principles. That's philosophical.


So it's not just Liddy, it's 'talk show hosts', what you really mean is they should be 'silenced.' Never fear, that's on the menu.

Hate-radio talk show hosts should be silenced. Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, et al clearly are hate mongers. They're no different than the Nazi party functionaries are the '20 and '30s. McCain's willingness to associate with that kind is disturbing.

[Kathianne]

McCain praised Liddy's principles. That's philosophical.



Hate-radio talk show hosts should be silenced. Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, et al clearly are hate mongers. They're no different than the Nazi party functionaries are the '20 and '30s. McCain's willingness to associate with that kind is disturbing.

So much for free speech. Obama sucks, so does Biden. Pelosi and Reid should be tarred and feathered.

Ok, should I not be free to say that? What if I have a megaphone? A microphone?

Have you heard what has been broadcast via major networks and radio about Bush/Cheney? Have you heard the slander against the Marines from Murtha? I don't hear you crying for them to be silenced.

Hypocrite as well as twit.

[stephanie]

JS is a communist, and as I've said before..the Democrat party is no longer, they have been taken over by the far left socialist and communist..they aren't there to look out for you and me, they are their to take us down, from the inside..


doesn't look like too many people care, though

[SassyLady]

JS is a communist, and as I've said before..the Democrat party is no longer, they have been taken over by the far left socialist and communist..they aren't there to look out for you and me, they are their to take us down, from the inside..


doesn't look like too many people care, though

We do care Stepanie - we just aren't as vocal as the far left liberals. We walk quietly and carry a big stick - our votes.

If Obama wins the military will probably reduce it's numbers naturally - through soldiers not re-uping and lack of new recruits. The Dims (Franks) want to reduce military funding by 25%, as well as they don't want to have Obama as their Commander in Chief. It'll be interesting to watch the exodus from the military that will happen if he wins.

[stephanie]

We do care Stepanie - we just aren't as vocal as the far left liberals. We walk quietly and carry a big stick - our votes.

If Obama wins the military will probably reduce it's numbers naturally - through soldiers not re-uping and lack of new recruits. The Dims (Franks) want to reduce military funding by 25%, as well as they don't want to have Obama as their Commander in Chief. It'll be interesting to watch the exodus from the military that will happen if he wins.

I wasn't referring to (most) of the people here...I know you all care..
I was referring all those rooting for the little Marxist and the Democrats to win complete control of our government..

[Sitarro]

I don't believe you.

It provides evidence of abortion provider murder after 1993.

"1998-OCT-23: Dr Barnett Slepian from Amherst NY (near Buffalo) was murdered."

Yea dipshit, it's called murder you fucking clown. What that asshole punk Ayres and his band of chicken shits was expressly done by anarchist against the government and those that protect it. You left wing dimwits think you can bully your pathetic little points into something substantial, it's not working punk.