Colin Powell to vote for Obama

[Mr. P]

Just heard him say it.

[stephanie]

wow, sad.

[Gaffer]

Not surprising. He's even more liberal than Bush.

[stephanie]

what's that phrase the Democrats always use?

sellout

[Mr. P]

He's on first half of Meet The Press the if anyone is interested

[stephanie]

he just spit on the Military men and women he helped put in Iraq..

[Classact]

I was watching CSPAN when they announced it and a caller from 2nd ACR called in and said that pappy Bush acknowledged he made a mistake on TV interview and actually cried when he listened to Powell over Gen. Swartzkoff to not take the Iraq government down on the first war. The guy said we could have saved this Iraq War and all the casualties if we hadn't listened to Gen. Powell since we had an overwhelming force to take the nation. Powell is a suck ass dove.

[stephanie]

Norman Schwarzkopf Endorses McCain
John McCain earned the endorsement of Gulf War commander Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf Wednesday.

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, January 23, 2008

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/01/23/norman-schwarzkopf-endorses-mccain/

Powell can go......

[Gaffer]

Real men endorse McCain or Barr. Real women do the same.

[Classact]

Norman Schwarzkopf Endorses McCain
John McCain earned the endorsement of Gulf War commander Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf Wednesday.

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, January 23, 2008

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/01/23/norman-schwarzkopf-endorses-mccain/

Powell can go......Powell owns the mass graves full of American supporting Shiites that Saddam killed during the cease fire. Doves always kill more people than hawks, like Vietnam War millions died when the doves forced us out and refused to fund the South. Now the Gen. Dove supports the Dove Obama who will side with Al Sadar/Iran that will result in perhaps tens of millions of deaths when the pre-surge violence is backed by all of the oil rich nations in the region. Had we finished the Iraq War during Desert Storm we would have saved tens of thousands of casualties... now the cut and run crowd will usher in mass killing and the ultimate cut off of oil from the Mid East and we will be left with windmills and solar panels to get out food to the supermarket and us to Washington to demand action.

[gabosaurus]

Nice foaming at the mouth, classact. Too bad you made no sense at all.
Powell's endorsement was a reaction to McCain's negativity. You have to cut the Middle East cord sometime. The "mission" was "accomplished" many years ago. Time to stop throwing our money down a rat hole and let someone else take care of the mess.

[crin63]

It's no surprise. I was opposed to him being Sec. of State because he was more liberal than I cared for.

[OCA]

Real men endorse McCain or Barr. Real women do the same.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh2: :laugh2::laugh2:

[Yurt]

i thought powell's other reason, other than mccain's subjectively opined negative campaign, is that the republican party has moved farther to the RIGHT

could have fooled me and most folks, i am pretty sure even OCA, the greatness hisself, would disagree with powell on this one :laugh2:

[OCA]

i thought powell's other reason, other than mccain's subjectively opined negative campaign, is that the republican party has moved farther to the RIGHT

could have fooled me and most folks, i am pretty sure even OCA, the greatness hisself, would disagree with powell on this one :laugh2:

The Repub party has taken as many right hand turns as Talladega Speedway, that is to say none..................its 4 left turns and hit the gas pedal.

[Kathianne]

The Repub party has taken as many right hand turns as Talladega Speedway, that is to say none..................its 4 left turns and hit the gas pedal.

Many of us agree with you there, then again YOU are the one selling the most liberal Senator for President. BTW, he's running with the 3rd most liberal Senator, so you're a shoo in for GOP chairman. :cheers2:

[OCA]

Many of us agree with you there, then again YOU are the one selling the most liberal Senator for President. BTW, he's running with the 3rd most liberal Senator, so you're a shoo in for GOP chairman. :cheers2:

You see my plan is thusly...........4 yrs of Obama..........a couple things go wrong...........his approval ratings are low in 2011...............then we nominate the hardest conservative we can find and plow under any moderate who might even think of announcing their nomination and VOILA! the oval office is ours again.

One landmine though................Obama's economic policies are better than Johnny's given the current situation so maybe that might be good enough to get him a 2nd term.

[Kathianne]

You see my plan is thusly...........4 yrs of Obama..........a couple things go wrong...........his approval ratings are low in 2011...............then we nominate the hardest conservative we can find and plow under any moderate who might even think of announcing their nomination and VOILA! the oval office is ours again.

One landmine though................Obama's economic policies are better than Johnny's given the current situation so maybe that might be good enough to get him a 2nd term.

"We?" :laugh2:

In all seriousness, I'm not wedded to the Republican party. I think we are more likely to see a real conservative arise from another party, the folks trying though just can't seem to grasp that all politics are local and start there.

They will though, the mess that is likely to come will change the country, I'm just not sure we can take the first round.

[theHawk]

He says its "not about race". Does Powell honestly believe that Obama would be where he is today if he wasn't black?

Not entirely sure what this endorsement means, Powell was part of the Bush administration that got us into Iraq.

[retiredman]

my guess is that Powell's endorsement will resonate with moderate republicans and independents. McCain can't be pleased.

Of course...I can!:laugh2:

[Immanuel]

So what? Powell has never been a true blood Republican. He's always been kind of middle of the road. If he chooses to endorse Barack Obama this time around, I am not surprised and it does not change my opinion of either Senator Obama or Colin Powell. I simply disagree with Colin Powell in this case.

Immie

[retiredman]

So what? Powell has never been a true blood Republican. He's always been kind of middle of the road. If he chooses to endorse Barack Obama this time around, I am not surprised and it does not change my opinion of either Senator Obama or Colin Powell. I simply disagree with Colin Powell in this case.

Immie

there was a time when your party was one that held the moderate middle of the road position. When Barry Goldwater beat Nelson Rockefeller in '64, that all started to change... and for the worse, from my perspective.

[stephanie]

there was a time when the Democrat party was moderate..now they are so far left, they are into Socialism almost Communism, from my perspective..

[Classact]

Nice foaming at the mouth, classact. Too bad you made no sense at all.
Powell's endorsement was a reaction to McCain's negativity. You have to cut the Middle East cord sometime. The "mission" was "accomplished" many years ago. Time to stop throwing our money down a rat hole and let someone else take care of the mess.About the time they can't get your groceries to the supermarket on the solar panels and windmills the openly gay buck sergeants will be leading drafted US soldiers, maybe your kids, back into Iraq to fix what Obama screwed up.

The anti war killed three million in the Vietnam era and if Obama wins they will kill over ten million unless Iran gets a nuke then you can add a few more millions. You will be begging for friends that support the guy who would have stayed in Iraq for 100 years when no one was shooting at us.

[Immanuel]

there was a time when your party was one that held the moderate middle of the road position. When Barry Goldwater beat Nelson Rockefeller in '64, that all started to change... and for the worse, from my perspective.

Not my party.

It would be nice if your party was somewhere close to middle of the road.

Immie

[Sitarro]

my guess is that Powell's endorsement will resonate with moderate republicans and independents. McCain can't be pleased.

Of course...I can!:laugh2:

Another semi-black endorsing the semi-black Dimwit......... who could possibly give a shit. Look at the polls on the military, while a huge percentage of all polled are for McCain, especially the Marines, over 70 percent of black military personnel are for the guy that has skin kind of like theirs........ pathetic.

Have you started packing for the land of refried beans yet?

[gabosaurus]

He says its "not about race". Does Powell honestly believe that Obama would be where he is today if he wasn't black?

Does anyone believe McCain would we where he was today if he wasn't a POW in Viet Nam? That appears to be his primary qualification to be president.

[stephanie]

:lol:

and just what the hell is that man-boys qualifications you all have running...

way friggin funny..

[Yurt]

Does anyone believe McCain would we where he was today if he wasn't a POW in Viet Nam? That appears to be his primary qualification to be president.

if that is the case, what is obama's qualification? running for office :laugh2:

[retiredman]

Have you started packing for the land of refried beans yet?

nbo. as I have told you on countless occasions, we will not even put the house on the market until 2011.

[avatar4321]

I was watching CSPAN when they announced it and a caller from 2nd ACR called in and said that pappy Bush acknowledged he made a mistake on TV interview and actually cried when he listened to Powell over Gen. Swartzkoff to not take the Iraq government down on the first war. The guy said we could have saved this Iraq War and all the casualties if we hadn't listened to Gen. Powell since we had an overwhelming force to take the nation. Powell is a suck ass dove.

doves are symbols of peace. Powell hasnt brought peace.

[avatar4321]

my guess is that Powell's endorsement will resonate with moderate republicans and independents. McCain can't be pleased.

Of course...I can!:laugh2:

That's rather sad. I mean moderate republicans and independents dont know how to think for themselves? They have to be told by famous government officials?

like I said, sad.

[avatar4321]

Does anyone believe McCain would we where he was today if he wasn't a POW in Viet Nam? That appears to be his primary qualification to be president.

Actually that was his primary qualification for his house seat. However, since he won the house seat he has done quite a lot. Agree or disagree you cant say he hasnt dont what he thought was best or accomplished things.

However, he isnt running as a POW.

[retiredman]

That's rather sad. I mean moderate republicans and independents dont know how to think for themselves? They have to be told by famous government officials?

like I said, sad.


no one ever said that anyone couldn't think for themselves. There is no doubt that many moderate republicans and independents are conflicted and undecided about this choice. Hearing Powell will certainly aid some of them in making their decisions.

[Sitarro]

no one ever said that anyone couldn't think for themselves. There is no doubt that many moderate republicans and independents are conflicted and undecided about this choice. Hearing Powell will certainly aid some of them in making their decisions.

imbeciles maybe but they vote Dimocrat anyway.

[retiredman]

imbeciles maybe but they vote Dimocrat anyway.

and doesn't it just piss you off that the imbeciles on the right and the middle may indeed vote for a democrat this year because of just how badly Bush has tarnished the republican brand?

[stephanie]

lets see, what do they call all them Democrats who are pissed that Hillary didn't get the nomination and is voting for John McCain..

doesn't that just piss off a few liberals...too bad:coffee:

[avatar4321]

no one ever said that anyone couldn't think for themselves. There is no doubt that many moderate republicans and independents are conflicted and undecided about this choice. Hearing Powell will certainly aid some of them in making their decisions.

Anyone who votes for someone simply because someone else votes for them, doesnt need to be voting. It's incredibly shallow. Ive never thought political endorsements were anything more than the endorser (and, no suprise, the media) flipping off the rest of the people by telling them that they are too stupid to make the decision themselves.

Im all for people making decisions and even sharing why they support someone. But the way endorsements are portrayed is so condescending. You should vote for so and so because this famous person said so.

I have a dream that someday Americans will be educated when they vote for their leaders.

[Sitarro]

and doesn't it just piss you off that the imbeciles on the right and the middle may indeed vote for a democrat this year because of just how badly Bush has tarnished the republican brand?

I'm not pissed off, I don't care, you and others like you actually believe that you will win if that skinny faggot gets elected....... reality check, you won't win shit. This pile of shit is working on 600 million spent to try and win the election, who do you think he owes? Don't bother with the horse shit about 600 million coming from down to earth Americans with hope for change, it will just make you look more ignorant and naive than we already think you are.:cool:

[emmett]

Anyone who votes for someone simply because someone else votes for them, doesnt need to be voting. It's incredibly shallow. Ive never thought political endorsements were anything more than the endorser (and, no suprise, the media) flipping off the rest of the people by telling them that they are too stupid to make the decision themselves.

Im all for people making decisions and even sharing why they support someone. But the way endorsements are portrayed is so condescending. You should vote for so and so because this famous person said so.

I have a dream that someday Americans will be educated when they vote for their leaders.


I hear ya! I have a dream too! That one day people will vote Libertarian when they are of that mindset but vote Republican because they are afraid!

[Nuc]

Let's face it, we all cheered Powell when it looked like he was Bill Cosby with a bazooka. But now that we know he is actually a NAMBLA member, communist, socialist, Democrat who probably has oral sex with Oprah almost every day and who is endorsing Hussein Obama simply because they are both half Negros (which makes them and Tiger Woods about 1 1/2 of James Brown) we should bring back the Confederacy.

Right? :lol:

At least McCain has Lieberman in the traitor sweepstakes! :salute:

[diuretic]

He says its "not about race". Does Powell honestly believe that Obama would be where he is today if he wasn't black?

Not entirely sure what this endorsement means, Powell was part of the Bush administration that got us into Iraq.

You think Obama is where he is just because he's black? Not because he has made McCain look like a complete twat? Not because in a time of chaos he's kept his head while McCain was running around like a headless chicken?

No?

Then you must be a racist yourself.

[diuretic]

there was a time when the Democrat party was moderate..now they are so far left, they are into Socialism almost Communism, from my perspective..

So many people wish it. The fact is the Democatic party are capitalists. No socialism there, not a tiny bit of it.

[Nuc]

I hear ya! I have a dream too! That one day people will vote Libertarian when they are of that mindset but vote Republican because they are afraid!

Yep, cowards! This year they may as well vote Libertarian because the Republicans stand as much chance of gaining the Presidency as Barr does. Vote their conscience.

[Sitarro]

So many people wish it. The fact is the Democatic party are capitalists. No socialism there, not a tiny bit of it.

It's the Democrat Party, where do you get this democratic party shit?

[Sitarro]

Let's face it, we all cheered Powell when it looked like he was Bill Cosby with a bazooka. But now that we know he is actually a NAMBLA member, communist, socialist, Democrat who probably has oral sex with Oprah almost every day and who is endorsing Hussein Obama simply because they are both half Negros (which makes them and Tiger Woods about 1 1/2 of James Brown) we should bring back the Confederacy.

Right? :lol:

At least McCain has Lieberman in the traitor sweepstakes! :salute:

Tiger is only one eighth black, he is mostly Thai. I was never impressed with Powell, affirmative action was the only reason he made General.

[Sitarro]

You think Obama is where he is just because he's black? Not because he has made McCain look like a complete twat? Not because in a time of chaos he's kept his head while McCain was running around like a headless chicken?

No?

Then you must be a racist yourself.

This post is complete bullshit. Osama wouldn't get a dogcatcher position if he was white. How was McCain returning to Washington to do his job running around like a headless chicken? How was Osama disrupting the meeting at the White House keeping his big round head.

Not only is Osama where he is because he is just the right shade of black(true black would have never worked for the racist in the Democrat Party), it's also the reason he made the grades at Harvard and was named to the bullshit Harvard Revue. The Professors gave him special treatment to feel better about themselves just as the pathetic guilt ridden white dimwits who are backing him today. He is an Ivy League trained liar and cheat, nothing more.

[diuretic]

This post is complete bullshit. Osama wouldn't get a dogcatcher position if he was white. How was McCain returning to Washington to do his job running around like a headless chicken? How was Osama disrupting the meeting at the White House keeping his big round head.

Not only is Osama where he is because he is just the right shade of black(true black would have never worked for the racist in the Democrat Party), it's also the reason he made the grades at Harvard and was named to the bullshit Harvard Revue. The Professors gave him special treatment to feel better about themselves just as the pathetic guilt ridden white dimwits who are backing him today. He is an Ivy League trained liar and cheat, nothing more.

Don't you mean Obama? Osama is a different name.

As for McCain's hysteria, how could you have faith in a bloke that was running around like Chicken Little? And all the time Obama was calm and in charge. That's why he will win. He's presidential, McCain is feral.

[retiredman]

Don't you mean Obama? Osama is a different name.

As for McCain's hysteria, how could you have faith in a bloke that was running around like Chicken Little? And all the time Obama was calm and in charge. That's why he will win. He's presidential, McCain is feral.

As I can recall, McCain "suspended his campaign" to go back and attempt to lead congressional republicans in their efforts to fix the financial crisis. I can recall that he supported the administration's bill, but couldn't get hardly any congressional republicans to follow his "lead". As I can recall, he stated that he would NOT debate Obama until a deal was done, and then turned right around and debated Obama even though a deal had not been done.

[Classact]

doves are symbols of peace. Powell hasnt brought peace.Powell is like Bob Novak and that puke at the State Department that leaked the name of Valerie Plame... The DOD, State Dept. and Justice Dept. are filled to the brim with left leaning doves that like to throw sand in the drive train to fuck up the gears. He's from the same ilk of those who wrote the threat assessment saying Iran wasn't a threat, enough to make you want to puke!

[red states rule]

Powell is like Bob Novak and that puke at the State Department that leaked the name of Valerie Plame... The DOD, State Dept. and Justice Dept. are filled to the brim with left leaning doves that like to throw sand in the drive train to fuck up the gears. He's from the same ilk of those who wrote the threat assessment saying Iran wasn't a threat, enough to make you want to puke!

This is Powell's revenge for Iraq. I remember well how the left trashed Powell. The liberal media savaged him when he was in the Bush afministration

The head of the NAACP called him a slave on the plantation doing what his master tells him to do

This will do little for the messiah, and will have no impact on the military vote which is breaking 3-1 for the Palin/McCain ticket

[retiredman]

I guess all the republicans can really hope for now is a validation of the Bradley effect. Pretty sad... the GOP reduced to hoping that America really is secretly racist after all.:laugh2:

[diuretic]

They can rename it in that case.

[Immanuel]

my guess is that Powell's endorsement will resonate with moderate republicans and independents. McCain can't be pleased.

Of course...I can!:laugh2:

Unlike the vast majority of Democrats who must be told to vote for Obama and who wouldn't consider going against their party, this independent doesn't give a rat's ass who Colin Powell is voting for. I respect and have always liked Colin Powell and to be frank with you, if he were running regardless of party, I would be voting for him. He's a good man who doesn't want the job. We disagree on a few issue, but so do I and both candidates today.

I still am not going to suddenly decide to vote for a radical socialist who associates with enemies of the state.


I guess all the republicans can really hope for now is a validation of the Bradley effect. Pretty sad... the GOP reduced to hoping that America really is secretly racist after all.:laugh2:

You know what? When everything looks bleak... turn to God.

I'm sure that whatever the outcome of this election... it is in God's hand. When God hands Obama a defeat life will be so Grand. :laugh2:

Unfortunately, what's troubling is the thought that now might be the time that the wrath of God may be focusing on us. Although, I'm not so sure which parties candidate is God's wrath going to be manifest through. Your worship of the man known as Obama is quite troubling to me, knowing that you are a man of God that is.

Immie

[retiredman]

Unlike the vast majority of Democrats who must be told to vote for Obama and who wouldn't consider going against their party, this independent doesn't give a rat's ass who Colin Powell is voting for. I respect and have always liked Colin Powell and to be frank with you, if he were running regardless of party, I would be voting for him. He's a good man who doesn't want the job. We disagree on a few issue, but so do I and both candidates today.

I still am not going to suddenly decide to vote for a radical socialist who associates with enemies of the state.



You know what? When everything looks bleak... turn to God.

I'm sure that whatever the outcome of this election... it is in God's hand. When God hands Obama a defeat life will be so Grand. :laugh2:

Unfortunately, what's troubling is the thought that now might be the time that the wrath of God may be focusing on us. Although, I'm not so sure which parties candidate is God's wrath going to be manifest through. Your worship of the man known as Obama is quite troubling to me, knowing that you are a man of God that is.

Immie


knock it off, Immie. I certainly do not worship any politician.

[Immanuel]

knock it off, Immie. I certainly do not worship any politician.

Then Party?

Come on MFM, take a look at what you write. Would God approve? The answer to that is a resounding NO!

Immie

[red states rule]

Then Party?

Come on MFM, take a look at what you write. Would God approve? The answer to that is a resounding NO!

Immie

To MFM, I am sure the Chosen One - Obama - would approve

[LiberalNation]

Good political move for Powell regardless. Having the presidents ear and a high powered job if you want it is never a bad thing.

Obama: Powell will have a role in adminstration

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_el_pr/obama

WASHINGTON – Colin Powell will have a role as a top presidential adviser in an Obama administration, the Democratic White House hopeful said Monday.

"He will have a role as one of my advisers," Barack Obama said on NBC's "Today" in an interview aired Monday, a day after Powell, a four-star general and President Bush's former secretary of state, endorsed him.

"Whether he wants to take a formal role, whether that's a good fit for him, is something we'd have to discuss," Obama said.

Being a top presidential adviser, especially on foreign policy, would be familiar ground to Powell on a subject that's relatively new to the freshman Illinois senator. Obama has struggled to establish his foreign policy credentials against GOP candidate John McCain, a decorated military veteran, former prisoner of war and ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

[Immanuel]

Good political move for Powell regardless. Having the presidents ear and a high powered job if you want it is never a bad thing.

Obama: Powell will have a role in adminstration

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_el_pr/obama

WASHINGTON – Colin Powell will have a role as a top presidential adviser in an Obama administration, the Democratic White House hopeful said Monday.

"He will have a role as one of my advisers," Barack Obama said on NBC's "Today" in an interview aired Monday, a day after Powell, a four-star general and President Bush's former secretary of state, endorsed him.

"Whether he wants to take a formal role, whether that's a good fit for him, is something we'd have to discuss," Obama said.

Being a top presidential adviser, especially on foreign policy, would be familiar ground to Powell on a subject that's relatively new to the freshman Illinois senator. Obama has struggled to establish his foreign policy credentials against GOP candidate John McCain, a decorated military veteran, former prisoner of war and ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Just goes to prove that people who serve him will be repaid for their favors. It makes the thought that people like William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright may have roles to play as well. That is not exactly a comforting thought.

Immie

[LiberalNation]

William Ayers never served him and he broke with Wright for trying to torpedo his campaign. Powell is a known top political advisor not a personal friend.

[Immanuel]

William Ayers never served him and he broke with Wright for trying to torpedo his campaign. Powell is a known top political advisor not a personal friend.

William Ayers never served him? Hell, he launched his political career in Ayers' living room. They've worked together before and despite his lies they are still in cahoots. The same goes for Wright. He did not break with Wright. He chose the political move of disavowing Wright for the time being while he ran a campaign that was being hurt by Wright's controversial nature.

When the election is over these men and other radicals will receive their rewards.

William Ayers will fit in just fine as far as Obama is concerned as Sec. of Education. Obama has endorsed his book.

Immie

[LiberalNation]

When the election is over these men and other radicals will receive their rewards.
Paranioa doesn't flatter you. We will see. Obama is not the anti-christ, the world wont collapse as soon as he takes office.

[red states rule]

I want to know why Powell was not asked about Obama's judgement in his opposition to the surge

Obama said it would not work, and was proven wrong

Wright and Ayers also goes to Obama's judgement - poor judgement that is

[namvet]

for me this is old news. I heard this months ago

[Immanuel]

Paranioa doesn't flatter you. We will see. Obama is not the anti-christ, the world wont collapse as soon as he takes office.

I never said Obama was the Anti-Christ. We don't know who the Anti-Christ is and will not until he is revealed. For all we know John McCain could be the Anti-Christ although, I always believed the Anti-Christ would come into power loved by the world. I don't see John McCain fitting that bill.

As for rewarding his friends, I do not foresee Barack Obama being any different (as in there will be no CHANGE) than other Presidents. He WILL reward his cronies once he has arrived in the Oval Office. My concern is that his cronies are all enemies of the state, not exactly people that I would want to lead the state.

Immie

[namvet]

Paranioa doesn't flatter you. We will see. Obama is not the anti-christ, the world wont collapse as soon as he takes office.

famous last words from a liberal. tell us the sun is shinning so we can go see for ourselves

[retiredman]

Then Party?

Come on MFM, take a look at what you write. Would God approve? The answer to that is a resounding NO!

Immie


Party? Would God approve of my being a Democrat? I have no idea. Who the hell are you to pretend YOU have some inside info on what political party God would or would not approve of?

[Immanuel]

Then Party?

Come on MFM, take a look at what you write. Would God approve? The answer to that is a resounding NO!

Immie


Party? Would God approve of my being a Democrat? I have no idea. Who the hell are you to pretend YOU have some inside info on what political party God would or would not approve of?

Do you need reading glasses, my friend?

Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed, friend?

Did I ask if God would approve of what party you belong to? No, I asked if God would approve of the things you write? No, I don't think he would.

Personally, I don't think the Lord would approve of either party or its leaders.

And, Yes, I do believe you worship the Democratic Party.

Immie

[retiredman]

Do you need reading glasses, my friend?

Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed, friend?

Did I ask if God would approve of what party you belong to? No, I asked if God would approve of the things you write? No, I don't think he would.

Personally, I don't think the Lord would approve of either party or its leaders.

And, Yes, I do believe you worship the Democratic Party.

ImmieWhat did the "then Party" have to do with? I said I did not worship any politician and then you said "Then Party"? and went on to suggest that God would not approve of what I write. Explain. or edit.

As to worshipping the democratic party... I do not and find your assertion to the contrary to be insulting.

And I happen to think that God doesn't really care all that much when people toss out words like shit or fuck... Like Lenny Bruce said, "there are no such things as dirty words, just dirty minds".

[hjmick]

He says its "not about race". Does Powell honestly believe that Obama would be where he is today if he wasn't black?

I will believe his endorsement is not about race the same day someone provides a list of inexperienced, liberal Whites Powell has endorsed. Other than that, more power to him. I have great respect for Colin Powell. This is America, as far as I know, people are free to endorse whom ever they want. For now at least.

[Immanuel]

What did the "then Party" have to do with? I said I did not worship any politician and then you said "Then Party"? and went on to suggest that God would not approve of what I write. Explain. or edit.

As to worshipping the democratic party... I do not and find your assertion to the contrary to be insulting.

And I happen to think that God doesn't really care all that much when people toss out words like shit or fuck... Like Lenny Bruce said, "there are no such things as dirty words, just dirty minds".

"Then Party?" was a question (that is what that last character means) as to whether or not you worship your party. Yes, I believe you do. You CLAIM not to worship, Barack Obama. I have yet to see proof that this is not true. However, since you claim not to, I then ask if you worship the party instead.

I do not believe that God would approve of what you write. I think God would be highly insulted that a man of God would write many of the things you write. I think the same of my own writings and many of the people on site as well, but I am not a preacher.

As for finding my assertions to be insulting, well, that is too bad. Because a preacher should be willing to accept the fact that he is a sinner. He should never be "Holier than thou". Humility is a supreme trait of good preachers. Everything I say to you, I say in brotherly love hoping to help to make you a better preacher.

As for Lenny Bruce, who cares what he says? He's wrong. Words have meaning. If I were to use the N-word, I would be crucified BY YOU as a racist and rightly so. Words have meanings and when dirty minds use dirty words they are most definitely dirty.

Immie

[retiredman]

"Then Party?" was a question (that is what that last character means) as to whether or not you worship your party. Yes, I believe you do. You CLAIM not to worship, Barack Obama. I have yet to see proof that this is not true. However, since you claim not to, I then ask if you worship the party instead.

I do not believe that God would approve of what you write. I think God would be highly insulted that a man of God would write many of the things you write. I think the same of my own writings and many of the people on site as well, but I am not a preacher.

As for finding my assertions to be insulting, well, that is too bad. Because a preacher should be willing to accept the fact that he is a sinner. He should never be "Holier than thou". Humility is a supreme trait of good preachers. Everything I say to you, I say in brotherly love hoping to help to make you a better preacher.

As for Lenny Bruce, who cares what he says? He's wrong. Words have meaning. If I were to use the N-word, I would be crucified BY YOU as a racist and rightly so. Words have meanings and when dirty minds use dirty words they are most definitely dirty.

Immie

I worship God. Period. I am a democrat and I intend to vote for my party's presidential candidate. Period. I worship neither my party nor its candidate. Period.

As to my language, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[retiredman]

I will believe his endorsement is not about race the same day someone provides a list of inexperienced, liberal Whites Powell has endorsed. Other than that, more power to him. I have great respect for Colin Powell. This is America, as far as I know, people are free to endorse whom ever they want. For now at least.

and here I thought you were a parrothead....NOT a dittohead! ;)

[stephanie]

It seems the ONLY THING a Democrat worships is (the party)..

good grief, look at the videos of the little kids singing the master(Obambam) praises, or the group of boys who was marching and saluting and shouting their love and praise for their master(Obambam)..

this has become something scary to watch..the friggin person is just a man-boy...Not some God..but you couldn't tell from his supporters..

[Immanuel]

I worship God. Period. I am a democrat and I intend to vote for my party's presidential candidate. Period. I worship neither my party nor its candidate. Period.

As to my language, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Hehe,

Well, I wish I could say I worship God. Period! I'm sure we all have our own Gods and unfortunately, I must admit to being no different than other human beings, although, I do NOT worship either party or any candidate.

I'm sure the time will come when God will ask me why I didn't always put him first and I will not be able to answer.

We will have to agree to disagree, but that doesn't mean we can't be friends and discuss it at times. :cheers2: I'm not giving up!

Immie

[Sitarro]

Don't you mean Obama? Osama is a different name.

As for McCain's hysteria, how could you have faith in a bloke that was running around like Chicken Little? And all the time Obama was calm and in charge. That's why he will win. He's presidential, McCain is feral.

Your attempt at painting McCain as a lunatic while the golden boy was calm is nothing but bullshit, is that what your pathetic papers are saying down under? McCain did the correct thing by suspending his campaign and returning to Washington, that is his job as a U.S. Senator, that is what he was elected by the people of Arizona to do. It was that skinny faggot Osamabama that disrupted the meeting at the White House and refused to postpone the useless debate that McCain eventually kicked his ass in. What the fuck is a campaign anyway? Wasting a lot of time and money to travel around the country selling themselves to people that are so shallow that they won't vote for someone unless they visit their state? I think the "Financial Crisis" and the voting on the spending of a TRILLION dollars trumps a asinine, antiquated joke known as a campaign. Osamabama will spend over 600,000,000 dollars on his before it's over and the faggot is barely above the margin of error in the polls, he's been campaigning for TWO YEARS and is barely leading the Republican candidate in a traditionally Democrat voting cycle, what a sorry ass little man he is. He has the full cooperation of the Hollywood elites, the Mass Media around the world, Worthless shits like Chavez, Castro, Putin, Hammas backing him and still, he really isn't winning. The world wants him in there to weaken the United States, you pussies hate us for our success, I say fuck you and stay out of our election...... we have enough outside corruption taking part in favor of the little brown dildo whose allegiance is to Africa.

Nobody here gives a flying shit what asshole other countries elect, why do you care about who we elect?

[hjmick]

and here I thought you were a parrothead....NOT a dittohead! ;)

Did Rush make similar comments? I don't listen, can't stand the guy. I was listening to a discussion on The Doug McIntyre radio show this morning and someone brought it up (probably a dittohead). Made sense to me, and it had crossed my mind before I turned on the show.

Honestly, I hope he's being honest and it has nothing to with race. My problem is, I'm something of a cynic.

Ultimately, I am not bothered by Powell's decision. It's his choice and I see no reason to hate on the man. And if anyone claims surprise at his choice, well they just haven't been paying attention. The rumors have been swirling for a couple of months ago.

[retiredman]

Rush actually made a verbatim comment! But I can understand how real dittoheads could have flooded other venues with it. I KNEW you weren't a real dittohead... and that you secretly wished you had a pencil thin moustache!

[stephanie]

call people dittoheads..they can call you Democrats cult members..:coffee:

[retiredman]

call people dittoheads..they can call you Democrats cult members..:coffee:

call me anything, but don't call me late for dinner!


oh, and I actually think that most dittoheads are quite proud of that moniker.:laugh2:

[Sitarro]

Rush actually made a verbatim comment! But I can understand how real dittoheads could have flooded other venues with it. I KNEW you weren't a real dittohead... and that you secretly wished you had a pencil thin moustache!

So, someone that is a member and contributor to the Democrat cult, a member of a pretend church club, a person that lives in an all white state and one that will soon abandon America to become a refried bean eating Mexican is calling others dittoheads....... that's rich.:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

[Immanuel]

oh, and I actually think that most dittoheads are quite proud of that moniker.:laugh2:

Seeing as how it comes from the mouths of AirAmerica AirHeads, I can see why it would be something to be proud of.

I can't believe you listen to Rush!

I can't stomach more than 45 seconds of him anymore. You really are a closet conservative! :laugh2: Or maybe, I have caught that dreaded liberalism disease? No, no, no, can't be. You're a conservative through and through.

Immie

[retiredman]

So, someone that is a member and contributor to the Democrat cult, a member of a pretend church club, a person that lives in an all white state and one that will soon abandon America to become a refried bean eating Mexican is calling others dittoheads....... that's rich.:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

dittoheads proudly refer to themselves as dittoheads.


and why are you always so disagreeable and nasty?

[Sitarro]

Seeing as how it comes from the mouths of AirAmerica AirHeads, I can see why it would be something to be proud of.

I can't believe you listen to Rush!

I can't stomach more than 45 seconds of him anymore. You really are a closet conservative! :laugh2: Or maybe, I have caught that dreaded liberalism disease? No, no, no, can't be. You're a conservative through and through.

Immie

Can't stomach 45 seconds eh, I feel the same about going to church, can't stomach it.

[theHawk]

Good political move for Powell regardless. Having the presidents ear and a high powered job if you want it is never a bad thing.

Obama: Powell will have a role in adminstration

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_el_pr/obama

WASHINGTON – Colin Powell will have a role as a top presidential adviser in an Obama administration, the Democratic White House hopeful said Monday.

"He will have a role as one of my advisers," Barack Obama said on NBC's "Today" in an interview aired Monday, a day after Powell, a four-star general and President Bush's former secretary of state, endorsed him.

"Whether he wants to take a formal role, whether that's a good fit for him, is something we'd have to discuss," Obama said.

Being a top presidential adviser, especially on foreign policy, would be familiar ground to Powell on a subject that's relatively new to the freshman Illinois senator. Obama has struggled to establish his foreign policy credentials against GOP candidate John McCain, a decorated military veteran, former prisoner of war and ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

So in other words, the Obama administration will be a continuation of the failed Bush administration....

[Immanuel]

Can't stomach 45 seconds eh, I feel the same about going to church, can't stomach it.

Well, that is okay. The question is what do you believe not how many times did you go to church while you were alive or how much did you tithe? Maybe you just have not found the right church to suit you.

My reasons for not being able stomach Rush, or most talk show hosts, is the hatred and the hypocrisy they tend to show. As a conservative myself, sometimes I feel like the only "compassionate conservative" (but I know that is not true) I just don't like it when conservatives behave like intolerant liberals and Rush, Sean, Michael Savage etc. all seem to display that part of liberalism. It is so unbecoming of true conservatives. :D

Immie

[Ravenskeep]

the fat boy a position with HIS guv-uh-mint. Probly make him Sekretery of State agin.

His criminal actions of several years ago will now make him even more wealthy, at the expense of thousands of dead and the American taxpayer.

Bummer!:alcoholic:

[teajsgramp]

A great American hero and public servant is just amazing. The McCain campaign just keeps stooping lower and lower. Must have learned a lot from his buddies Bushie Boy and Karl Rove. Good luck wallowing in the mud!

[stephanie]

Oh boy, another one..:dance:

[Mr. P]

Oh boy, another one..:dance:

They're like roaches aren't they.

[Yurt]

A great American hero and public servant is just amazing. The McCain campaign just keeps stooping lower and lower. Must have learned a lot from his buddies Bushie Boy and Karl Rove. Good luck wallowing in the mud!

english please

[retiredman]

english please
then the post makes complete sense.

Bottom line: Powell's endorsement of Obama will certainly not hurt the Obama campaign and may, in fact, help some undecided voters make up their minds....despite the caterwauling from the conservatives here.

[namvet]

A great American hero and public servant is just amazing. The McCain campaign just keeps stooping lower and lower. Must have learned a lot from his buddies Bushie Boy and Karl Rove. Good luck wallowing in the mud!

I read yesterday your girly man is considering him for a position in his puppet regime. that's a good idea considering your girly man has less experience than Palin. its a fact your girly man's foreign policy will be run by foreigners. girly man

[red states rule]

then the post makes complete sense.

Bottom line: Powell's endorsement of Obama will certainly not hurt the Obama campaign and may, in fact, help some undecided voters make up their minds....despite the caterwauling from the conservatives here.

Seriously, has Powell changed the "minds" of any libs who were still in the undecided?

Powell wants press time and possibly a job Obama wins.

[namvet]

I see no diff between him and Murtha. and neither does the military

[retiredman]

Seriously, has Powell changed the "minds" of any libs who were still in the undecided?

Powell wants press time and possibly a job Obama wins.

RSR: I would suggest that libs are not the type of undecided voter that Powell's endorsement will influence. Independents and moderate republicans might very well consider his opinion to be of some value, wouldn't you think?

[red states rule]

RSR: I would suggest that libs are not the type of undecided voter that Powell's endorsement will influence. Independents and moderate republicans might very well consider his opinion to be of some value, wouldn't you think?

At this point, Powell's endorsement will have little impact. Now we know Powell has a job waiting for him if Obama wins.

Powell can support anyone his wants. He says it is a matter of judegement - then why was Powell not asked about Obama's poor judgement on the surge?

[theHawk]

At this point, Powell's endorsement will have little impact. Now we know Powell has a job waiting for him if Obama wins.

Powell can support anyone his wants. He says it is a matter of judegement - then why was Powell not asked about Obama's poor judgement on the surge?

Are you kidding, you expect the media to actually practice journalism?

[red states rule]

Are you kidding, you expect the media to actually practice journalism?

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/143106.jpg

[retiredman]

At this point, Powell's endorsement will have little impact. Now we know Powell has a job waiting for him if Obama wins.

Powell can support anyone his wants. He says it is a matter of judegement - then why was Powell not asked about Obama's poor judgement on the surge?

Your opinion as to the effect of Powell's endorsement is just that.

Regarding the surge. I think that Obama has been quite clear about that: the surge worked MILITARILY as well as anyone could have expected. It has NOT, however, brought about the civil reconciliation that it was designed to do. So... successful in one sense, and a failure in another.

AND, when one looks at Afghanistan where the surge troops could have also been used, one sees that we have been unable to do what we needed to do there simply because we did not have the troop strength to do it.

[red states rule]

Your opinion as to the effect of Powell's endorsement is just that.

Regarding the surge. I think that Obama has been quite clear about that: the surge worked MILITARILY as well as anyone could have expected. It has NOT, however, brought about the civil reconciliation that it was designed to do. So... successful in one sense, and a failure in another.

AND, when one looks at Afghanistan where the surge troops could have also been used, one sees that we have been unable to do what we needed to do there simply because we did not have the troop strength to do it.

Like most Dems, Obama said the surge would fail before it even started

In January 2007, Obama said he did not know of any Middle East expert or military officer that believed that the surge would "make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground."



.Obama: "We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a civil war. And until we acknowledge that reality -- we can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops, I don't know any expert on the region or any military officer that I've spoken to privately that believes that that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground." (CBS' "Face The Nation," 1/14/07)

Obama: "I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse." (MSNBC's "Response To The President's Speech On Iraq," 1/10/07)

After the surge was in effect, Obama said it had potentially worsened the situation in Iraq:

In July 2007, Obama said the surge had not worked in Iraq.

Obama: "Well, actually, I think there was a very serious debate, and it's based on some fundamental differences. I think reasonable people can differ on this issue because there are no good options in Iraq. We should not have gone. At this point we have bad options and worse options. But we are facing a choice. My assessment is that the surge has not worked and we will not see a different report eight weeks from now." (NBC's "The Today Show," 7/18/07)

In November 2007, Obama said the surge has not worked, and had potentially worsened the situation in Iraq.

Obama: "Finally, in 2006-2007, we started to see that, even after an election, George Bush continued to want to pursue a course that didn't withdraw troops from Iraq but actually doubled them and initiated a search and at that stage I said very clearly, not only have we not seen improvements, but we're actually worsening, potentially, a situation there." (NBC's "Meet The Press," 11/11/07)

http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idcategory=34&idSub=186&idArticle=15779


Fast forward to today

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/

[retiredman]

RSR:

This is what I said:

"Regarding the surge. I think that Obama has been quite clear about that: the surge worked MILITARILY as well as anyone could have expected. It has NOT, however, brought about the civil reconciliation that it was designed to do. So... successful in one sense, and a failure in another.

AND, when one looks at Afghanistan where the surge troops could have also been used, one sees that we have been unable to do what we needed to do there simply because we did not have the troop strength to do it."

what do YOU have to say in response to that?

[red states rule]

RSR:

This is what I said:

"Regarding the surge. I think that Obama has been quite clear about that: the surge worked MILITARILY as well as anyone could have expected. It has NOT, however, brought about the civil reconciliation that it was designed to do. So... successful in one sense, and a failure in another.

AND, when one looks at Afghanistan where the surge troops could have also been used, one sees that we have been unable to do what we needed to do there simply because we did not have the troop strength to do it."

what do YOU have to say in response to that?

Obama said the surge would NOT reduce violence and would fail. He said what most Dems said

The fact is, violence is way down, and Iraq is making progress. The government is making progress

This is only one example of Obama's poor judgement. If it were up to Obama, Iraq would be much worse,a dn the terrorists would have probably won

When Gen Powell said it was Mccain who had the poor judgement, I wonder why he was not asked about Obama's judegment on the surge

[Yurt]

Obama said the surge would NOT reduce violence and would fail. He said what most Dems said

The fact is, violence is way down, and Iraq is making progress. The government is making progress

This is only one example of Obama's poor judgement. If it were up to Obama, Iraq would be much worse,a dn the terrorists would have probably won

When Gen Powell said it was Mccain who had the poor judgement, I wonder why he was not asked about Obama's judegment on the surge

not only that, i believe obama said it would make matters worse

[retiredman]

Obama said the surge would NOT reduce violence and would fail. He said what most Dems said

The fact is, violence is way down, and Iraq is making progress. The government is making progress

This is only one example of Obama's poor judgement. If it were up to Obama, Iraq would be much worse,a dn the terrorists would have probably won

When Gen Powell said it was Mccain who had the poor judgement, I wonder why he was not asked about Obama's judegment on the surge

and I would suggest that neither you, nor anyone else, can possibly guarantee that sunnis and shiites in Iraq will not go back to fighting one another with a vengeance the minute we leave. I happen to think they will. I happen to think that the real terrorists who are OUR enemies are not in Iraq nor have they ever been. I happen to think that your previously stated theory that Al Qaeda and Iran will join forces to rule the Iraqi people against their will is without merit.

[red states rule]

and I would suggest that neither you, nor anyone else, can possibly guarantee that sunnis and shiites in Iraq will not go back to fighting one another with a vengeance the minute we leave. I happen to think they will. I happen to think that the real terrorists who are OUR enemies are not in Iraq nor have they ever been. I happen to think that your previously stated theory that Al Qaeda and Iran will join forces to rule the Iraqi people against their will is without merit.

It is a fact most Dems are still pulling for the terrorists and total failure in Iraq

The point is, Obama was wrong on Iraq and the surge. Now Biden says how the messiah will be tested by terrorists - and given his piss poor judgement no wonder the terrorists are pulling for him to win the election

This after libs said how the world will love America if the chosen on wins

[retiredman]

It is a fact most Dems are still pulling for the terrorists and total failure in Iraq

The point is, Obama was wrong on Iraq and the surge. Now Biden says how the messiah will be tested by terrorists - and given his piss poor judgement no wonder the terrorists are pulling for him to win the election

This after libs said how the world will love America if the chosen on wins

no. I know of no democrat who is pulling for the terrorists. Obama's judgment on Iraq from the outset was spot on... and America knows it. Obama has stated that the surge worked militarily and failed politically. The goals of the surge were not met. And you cannot, as I said, possibly guarantee that sunnis and shiites in Iraq will not go back to fighting one another with a vengeance the minute we leave. And why should they? What about the occupation by American forces for six years will undo a millenium of hatred?

[red states rule]

no. I know of no democrat who is pulling for the terrorists. Obama's judgment on Iraq from the outset was spot on... and America knows it. Obama has stated that the surge worked militarily and failed politically. The goals of the surge were not met. And you cannot, as I said, possibly guarantee that sunnis and shiites in Iraq will not go back to fighting one another with a vengeance the minute we leave. And why should they? What about the occupation by American forces for six years will undo a millenium of hatred?

Oh? Do I need to remind you have the "support" Dems showed the surge?

You must NOT have read your messiah's words about the surge - or you are ignoring them

Once again, you refuse to acknowldge the truth and blindly defend your guy regardless of the facts

Yes I know you feel the "infidels" being in Iraq is nad news - is that why Biden is promising a possible terrorist attack? Is that why he has been taken off the campaugn trail?

[retiredman]

Oh? Do I need to remind you have the "support" Dems showed the surge?

You must NOT have read your messiah's words about the surge - or you are ignoring them

Once again, you refuse to acknowldge the truth and blindly defend your guy regardless of the facts

Yes I know you feel the "infidels" being in Iraq is nad news - is that why Biden is promising a possible terrorist attack? Is that why he has been taken off the campaugn trail?

I did not support the surge because I felt, and still feel, that it was not the best use of our limited resources. I have always felt that Afghanistan was the place we needed to clean up... and again... as I have said over and over again... you cannot possibly guarantee that sunnis and shiites in Iraq will not go back to fighting one another with a vengeance the minute we leave. The surge has not made the hatred between them melt away.

Regarding Biden, he is very much ON the trail, campaigning in Colorado today

[retiredman]

and regarding democrat's comments. You very much need to show me any elected democrat who ever said anything that was "pulling for the terrorists".

[red states rule]

and regarding democrat's comments. You very much need to show me any elected democrat who ever said anything that was "pulling for the terrorists".

What have Dems done to support the troops? From what I have seen they have done nothing to assist them

Dems have done everything possibe to undermine them, smear them, and cast them as the enemy in Iraq

[retiredman]

What have Dems done to support the troops? From what I have seen they have done nothing to assist them

Dems have done everything possibe to undermine them, smear them, and cast them as the enemy in Iraq


RSR:

YOU said:

"It is a fact most Dems are still pulling for the terrorists"

I dispute that statement. You need to show me quotes from democrats - especially any democrats in office - where they have EVER "pulled for the terrorists".

My guess is, that you will not be able to do so but will, nonetheless, obfuscate as you do so well.

[theHawk]

RSR:

YOU said:

"It is a fact most Dems are still pulling for the terrorists"

I dispute that statement. You need to show me quotes from democrats - especially any democrats in office - where they have EVER "pulled for the terrorists".

My guess is, that you will not be able to do so but will, nonetheless, obfuscate as you do so well.

Not most democrats, just elected democrats. A defeat for America is a victory for them. Just look at Obama, the proof is in the pudding!

[retiredman]

Not most democrats, just elected democrats. A defeat for America is a victory for them. Just look at Obama, the proof is in the pudding!


please post a quote where any elected democrat has "pulled for the terrorists"

[red states rule]

please post a quote where any elected democrat has "pulled for the terrorists"

Well I have not seen where the Dems were pulling for the troops. Unless you count Dems calling the troops Nazi's, terrorists, uneducated, comparing them to Pol Pot, saying the war is lost, calling them infidels, saying the surge was a waste of lives and resources, running the Gen Betray Us ad, calling them cold blooded killers, and Dems and the liberal media releasing classified info thereby making the job of the troops harder - support

[red states rule]

RSR:

YOU said:

"It is a fact most Dems are still pulling for the terrorists"

I dispute that statement. You need to show me quotes from democrats - especially any democrats in office - where they have EVER "pulled for the terrorists".

My guess is, that you will not be able to do so but will, nonetheless, obfuscate as you do so well.


Based on your posts, I suspect you would like nothing better for the violence to start up again, to see the liberal media covering more death and destruction, and see elected Dems rushing to hold a press conference to say how Iraq is a lost cause

[retiredman]

Based on your posts, I suspect you would like nothing better for the violence to start up again, to see the liberal media covering more death and destruction, and see elected Dems rushing to hold a press conference to say how Iraq is a lost cause

so...you admit that you have NOTHING to back up your statement that "It is a fact most Dems are still pulling for the terrorists"???

Thank you for proving my prediction of your obfuscation.

[red states rule]

so...you admit that you have NOTHING to back up your statement that "It is a fact most Dems are still pulling for the terrorists"???

Thank you for proving my prediction of your obfuscation.

They were pulling for the terrorists. They wanted tio the US to lose in Iraq. they did everything they could to undermine the troops

and you supported everyone of their attempts

[retiredman]

They were pulling for the terrorists. They wanted tio the US to lose in Iraq. they did everything they could to undermine the troops

and you supported everyone of their attempts


you are wrong. no democrat in office ever pulled for terrorists....that is your twisted partisan opinion and CERTAINLY not a FACT.

If it WERE a FACT, you would post a quote where any democrat stated that he was pulling for the terrorists. You cannot do so.

busted.

[red states rule]

you are wrong. no democrat in office ever pulled for terrorists....that is your twisted partisan opinion and CERTAINLY not a FACT.

If it WERE a FACT, you would post a quote where any democrat stated that he was pulling for the terrorists. You cannot do so.

busted.

MFM, Dems never lifted a finger to help the troops. They smeared, insulted, and constantly tried to insert a surrender date in spending bills

Dems said over and over again the war was lost, and YOU called the troops infidels

Dems never wanted to the troops to win in Iraq, they wanted the US to lose the war

THAT IS PULLING FOR TERRORISTS

[retiredman]

MFM, Dems never lifted a finger to help the troops. They smeared, insulted, and constantly tried to insert a surrender date in spending bills

Dems said over and over again the war was lost, and YOU called the troops infidels

Dems never wanted to the troops to win in Iraq, they wanted the US to lose the war

THAT IS PULLING FOR TERRORISTS

no. you are mischaracterizing as usual. surrender was never called for by any democrat. and no democrat ever pulled for the terrorists.

And, to the citizens of Iraq, our troops ARE infidels.... I thought you knew that.

[red states rule]

no. you are mischaracterizing as usual. surrender was never called for by any democrat. and no democrat ever pulled for the terrorists.

And, to the citizens of Iraq, our troops ARE infidels.... I thought you knew that.

If you are a former memebr of the US military, you should be pissed over the Dems treatment and support of the troops

But then again, you would never go against your party, no matter what they say or do

However the troops know damn well how Dems feel about them - they are going with Palin/McCain by a 3-1 ratio

[retiredman]

If you are a former memebr of the US military, you should be pissed over the Dems treatment and support of the troops

But then again, you would never go against your party, no matter what they say or do

However the troops know damn well how Dems feel about them - they are going with Palin/McCain by a 3-1 ratio


still cannot find a democratic quote for democrats pulling for terrorists?

I didn't think so. All you have is insults

[red states rule]

still cannot find a democratic quote for democrats pulling for terrorists?

I didn't think so. All you have is insults

Like you MFM, their actions speak much louder then their words

Funny how terrorist groups are backing the Dems and Obama in this election.

[namvet]

I was informed this morning we now have tentatively 44% (all branch's) of the military's committment to resign or leave servce. including many senior line officers who say they will NOT work for Osama. our goal is still 100%.

the long gray line is going to fail you for the first time in history. the blanket of protection you spit on or sleep under will be removed if we get our way. Osama will have to protect you using the UN or other sources. mainly conscription. and we hope impeachment of this Nazi. oh you liberals can't go to Canada. the door was closed years ago

you stand divided

we stand united

[red states rule]

I was informed this morning we now have tentatively 44% (all branch's) of the military's committment to resign or leave servce. including many senior line officers who say they will NOT work for Osama. our goal is still 100%.

the long gray line is going to fail you for the first time in history. the blanket of protection you spit on or sleep under will be removed if we get our way. Osama will have to protect you using the UN or other sources. mainly conscription. and we hope impeachment of this Nazi. oh you liberals can't go to Canada. the door was closed years ago

you stand divided

we stand united

MFM thumps his chest about his service and his patriotism - while at the same time defends the party that has turned their back on the troops

Then cops an attitude when you call him on his own actions and words

[Immanuel]

I was informed this morning we now have tentatively 44% (all branch's) of the military's committment to resign or leave servce. including many senior line officers who say they will NOT work for Osama. our goal is still 100%.

the long gray line is going to fail you for the first time in history. the blanket of protection you spit on or sleep under will be removed if we get our way. Osama will have to protect you using the UN or other sources. mainly conscription. and we hope impeachment of this Nazi. oh you liberals can't go to Canada. the door was closed years ago

you stand divided

we stand united

Well, I'm certainly glad that you can't just quit! Heck, if I remember correctly, George Bush hasn't even allowed you to not re-enlist when your enlistments expired.

It's a scary thought though having half of the military, if not all of it, up and quit on us. It also leads to worry about a military coup. God, I pray you are only joking.

Immie

[red states rule]

Well, I'm certainly glad that you can't just quit! Heck, if I remember correctly, George Bush hasn't even allowed you to not re-enlist when your enlistments expired.

It's a scary thought though having half of the military, if not all of it, up and quit on us. It also leads to worry about a military coup. God, I pray you are only joking.

Immie

Why should they stay in? Obama will never use them to fight terrorists. He will use them as Meals on Wheels for the world

[Immanuel]

Why should they stay in? Obama will never use them to fight terrorists. He will use them as Meals on Wheels for the world

I would not be so sure of that. Those who oppose him, both foreign and domestic, will be declared terrorists. I think the military will be used during a Obama Presidency.

Immie

[red states rule]

I would not be so sure of that. Those who oppose him, both foreign and domestic, will be declared terrorists. I think the military will be used during a Obama Presidency.

Immie

Immie, Obama is a typical lib who thinks talking to terrorists is the way to go. Why do you think terror groups are openly supporting him? Do you think they would fear and respect him?

Obama will use the military. Perhaps as waiters and bartenders at WH social gatherings

[AFbombloader]

Well, I'm certainly glad that you can't just quit! Heck, if I remember correctly, George Bush hasn't even allowed you to not re-enlist when your enlistments expired.

It's a scary thought though having half of the military, if not all of it, up and quit on us. It also leads to worry about a military coup. God, I pray you are only joking.

Immie

The circumstance of being kept beyond their enlistment date is stop-loss, and there is not a blamked policy for it. It goes by AFSC/MOS and it is generally for critical career fields. Now it is true that it can be applied to any forces deemed necessary for national security reasons. But this has never been the case as far as I can see, I could not find any cases where a blanket stop-loss was used.

As to the military getting out or reigning. With the majority of contracts being 4 years, you could safely assume about 25% would be up for reenlistment in any given year. Officers fall into a different group. From what I can see, they can request a resignation in writing, but it may or may not be approved. There were legal terms and payback of education costs involved.

I do know a lot of people I talk to are not happy with the way this election is going, but I have met none who say they will quit right away if Obama gets elected. There are some who have said they will not stay in, maybe the nomber are refering to those people.

AF:salute:

[Immanuel]

Immie, Obama is a typical lib who thinks talking to terrorists is the way to go. Why do you think terror groups are openly supporting him? Do you think they would fear and respect him?

Obama will use the military. Perhaps as waiters and bartenders at WH social gatherings

Think about what I said about those who oppose him.

Sure, he'll "talk" with buddies, but when it comes to those "irrational" right wingers who won't submit to his socialistic ideas... well, Lord have pity on their souls.

Immie

[Immanuel]

The circumstance of being kept beyond their enlistment date is stop-loss, and there is not a blamked policy for it. It goes by AFSC/MOS and it is generally for critical career fields. Now it is true that it can be applied to any forces deemed necessary for national security reasons. But this has never been the case as far as I can see, I could not find any cases where a blanket stop-loss was used.

As to the military getting out or reigning. With the majority of contracts being 4 years, you could safely assume about 25% would be up for reenlistment in any given year. Officers fall into a different group. From what I can see, they can request a resignation in writing, but it may or may not be approved. There were legal terms and payback of education costs involved.

I do know a lot of people I talk to are not happy with the way this election is going, but I have met none who say they will quit right away if Obama gets elected. There are some who have said they will not stay in, maybe the nomber are refering to those people.

AF:salute:

I must say that is somewhat encouraging.

:salute:

Immie

[red states rule]

Think about what I said about those who oppose him.

Sure, he'll "talk" with buddies, but when it comes to those "irrational" right wingers who won't submit to his socialistic ideas... well, Lord have pity on their souls.

Immie

I guess now I will be branded for life as a racist, and one of those "irrational" right wingers

What libs like Obama do not get is that the terrorists want all us dead

[Immanuel]

I guess now I will be branded for life as a racist, and one of those "irrational" right wingers

What libs like Obama do not get is that the terrorists want all us dead

Thank God, I'm "semi-rational"!

I feared that if Hillary won, I'd be branded as a pro-life terrorist and I've only prayed in front, on the side walk, of an abortion clinic once and there was only one other person with me. We weren't making a scene, no signs or anything. There weren't even customers going in or out.

Oh, yeah, there was also the time I marched for Crisis Pregnancy Center Donations and another time when I held up a sign on the major highway through Brandon enduring being cussed at, having soda thrown at us, flipped off etc. Remember those liberals are oh so tolerant.

Immie

[namvet]

Osama will help our cause anyway. he is gonna wack the military. so why stay??? many in service will be delusional enough to think he'll make world peace. no need for them to serve. so we're counting on Osama to help here big time.

yes I have talked to service members who told me they will leave as fast as they can if he's elected.

[red states rule]

Thank God, I'm "semi-rational"!

I feared that if Hillary won, I'd be branded as a pro-life terrorist and I've only prayed in front, on the side walk, of an abortion clinic once and there was only one other person with me. We weren't making a scene, no signs or anything. There weren't even customers going in or out.

Oh, yeah, there was also the time I marched for Crisis Pregnancy Center Donations and another time when I held up a sign on the major highway through Brandon enduring being cussed at, having soda thrown at us, flipped off etc. Remember those liberals are oh so tolerant.

Immie

Being a white male, I have already ben branded a racist. If Obama wins, the hate from libs will only increase as their liberalsim blows up in their face - and the left looks for excuses

[Mr. P]

Think about what I said about those who oppose him.

Sure, he'll "talk" with buddies, but when it comes to those "irrational" right wingers who won't submit to his socialistic ideas... well, Lord have pity on their souls.

Immie

This would be a true National disaster...but is exactly why the founders provided the 2nd amendment. IMO

[red states rule]

Speaking of tolerant libs...


Obama Supporter Assaults Female McCain Volunteer in New York

October 17, 2008 - by Oleg Atbashian
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While the Democrat-leaning media continues to scare undecided voters with bedtime stories about some mythical angry McCain supporter whom nobody has seen, here is a real district attorney’s complaint documenting an unprovoked assault by an enraged Democrat against a McCain volunteer in midtown Manhattan: “Defendant grabbed the sign [informant] was holding, broke the wood stick that was attached to it, and then struck informant in informant’s face thereby causing informant to sustain redness, swelling, and bruising to informant’s face and further causing informant to sustain substantial pain.”
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-supporter-assaults-female-mccain-volunteer-in-new-york/

[namvet]

Will military veterans support Obama's "retreat and declare defeat" strategy


As things now stand, it appears that Barack Obama, if nominated by the Democrats and elected in November, may very well become the commander in chief of America's military force. As commander in chief he actually would have the Constitutional authority, under existing legislation passed by previous, but recent congresses to implement the policies to do what he has unconstitutionally tried to force President Bush to do — pull out of the war on terror. His bill S 433, introduced in January 2007, would redeploy the Armed forces in Iraq and implement a "political settlement in Iraq, thereby ending the civil war in Iraq." That sounds like a recipe for surrender to me.

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mostert/080228

[namvet]

The circumstance of being kept beyond their enlistment date is stop-loss, and there is not a blamked policy for it. It goes by AFSC/MOS and it is generally for critical career fields. Now it is true that it can be applied to any forces deemed necessary for national security reasons. But this has never been the case as far as I can see, I could not find any cases where a blanket stop-loss was used.

As to the military getting out or reigning. With the majority of contracts being 4 years, you could safely assume about 25% would be up for reenlistment in any given year. Officers fall into a different group. From what I can see, they can request a resignation in writing, but it may or may not be approved. There were legal terms and payback of education costs involved.

I do know a lot of people I talk to are not happy with the way this election is going, but I have met none who say they will quit right away if Obama gets elected. There are some who have said they will not stay in, maybe the nomber are refering to those people.

AF:salute:

you wouldn't believe the number of officers i saw leave in Nam.

[AFbombloader]

Osama will help our cause anyway. he is gonna wack the military. so why stay??? many in service will be delusional enough to think he'll make world peace. no need for them to serve. so we're counting on Osama to help here big time.

yes I have talked to service members who told me they will leave as fast as they can if he's elected.

I believe they are here, and in every branch. I never doubted you or that fact. I have been throught a gutting by Clinton, and I fear what Obama will do will make that look like the Reagan days! And now you have old Joe saying there will be some international test in the firt 6 months. Good for him there will still be some of us in the forces in 6 month. Not this guy! I officially have finished working and am now outprocessing the Air Force. My retirement ceremony is Friday.

AF:salute:

[AFbombloader]

you wouldn't believe the number of officers i saw leave in Nam.

I believe you, and I know there will be some now.

[retiredman]

Will military veterans support Obama's "retreat and declare defeat" strategy


http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mostert/080228

I, for one, will be glad when we actually start fighting the folks who attacked us and get ourselves unentangled from a civil conflict in Iraq. IMHO, sunnis and shiites in Iraq will never get along, and whenever we DO leave, the Iraqi military will devolve into sunni and shiite militias and they'll go at it.

[red states rule]

I, for one, will be glad when we actually start fighting the folks who attacked us and get ourselves unentangled from a civil conflict in Iraq. IMHO, sunnis and shiites in Iraq will never get along, and whenever we DO leave, the Iraqi military will devolve into sunni and shiite militias and they'll go at it.

Yea, I bet the messiah will even raise his voice to them MFM. Lets face it, you libs fight and hate your fellow Americans then you do the terrorists who attacked us on 9-11

[retiredman]

Yea, I bet the messiah will even raise his voice to them MFM. Lets face it, you libs fight and hate your fellow Americans then you do the terrorists who attacked us on 9-11
why do you think that we can somehow make sunnis and shiites in Iraq stop hating one another by occupying their country?

[namvet]

I believe they are here, and in every branch. I never doubted you or that fact. I have been throught a gutting by Clinton, and I fear what Obama will do will make that look like the Reagan days! And now you have old Joe saying there will be some international test in the firt 6 months. Good for him there will still be some of us in the forces in 6 month. Not this guy! I officially have finished working and am now outprocessing the Air Force. My retirement ceremony is Friday.

AF:salute:

and thank you sir for your service. enjoy your retirement :salute::salute:

[No1tovote4]

why do you think that we can somehow make sunnis and shiites in Iraq stop hating one another by occupying their country?
When did he say that?

One thing we know is that if we leave a strong government there they can keep a modicum of security in place. While there may be attacks on each other, like gang violence here, there can be a nation held together if we leave strong leadership. Pretending it is impossible is denying the past. Those kinds of attacks happened when Saddam was in place...

Believing we should leave before we provide at least that is IMO, setting it up for a failure of monumental proportions that will be blamed for decades on "evil Americans" and used as a recruitment tool even more effective because of the extremity of the violence that will run unchecked.

Going caused some people do join terrorist groups for sure, it was foolish to begin, but leaving early and ensuring total collapse will cause more. Now that we are there, we must give them a good chance to survive before we leave any other option is immoral and dangerous.

[red states rule]

why do you think that we can somehow make sunnis and shiites in Iraq stop hating one another by occupying their country?

The violence is down and the government is making progess. Here in America, libs hate anyone who disagrees with them, and acts of violence are happening - are we getting as bad as Iraq?

[Immanuel]

This would be a true National disaster...but is exactly why the founders provided the 2nd amendment. IMO

True, but times have changed. The arms we would have to bare today would be no match for the power of the U.S. Military wielded by a CIC gone wild. Just ask the Iraqi Army of 2003. Ask David Koresh... er, too late!

Americans would not stand a chance defending our country and our rights from our own government today. Don't even try to tell me that the American Revolutionaries stood against similar odds. Even with the arms they could bare, the organization would be non-existant and spell doom for a new revolut. There would be no organization and quite frankly, I would fear the outcome of a revolt more than I fear socialism.

That being said, in that sense, the 2nd Amendment is worthless today for that particular use.

I'm encouraged by the fact that I believe that even though Barack Obama and I do not see eye to eye, he cannot single handedly change America to his vision of how it should be. We've still got a chance even after 8 years of a Barack Obama Presidency. The pendulum will swing back. Of this I am sure.

Immie

[No1tovote4]

True, but times have changed. The arms we would have to bare today would be no match for the power of the U.S. Military wielded by a CIC gone wild. Just ask the Iraqi Army of 2003. Ask David Koresh... er, too late!

Americans would not stand a chance defending our country and our rights from our own government today. Don't even try to tell me that the American Revolutionaries stood against similar odds. Even with the arms they could bare, the organization would be non-existant and spell doom for a new revolut. There would be no organization and quite frankly, I would fear the outcome of a revolt more than I fear socialism.

That being said, in that sense, the 2nd Amendment is worthless today for that particular use.

I'm encouraged by the fact that I believe that even though Barack Obama and I do not see eye to eye, he cannot single handedly change America to his vision of how it should be. We've still got a chance even after 8 years of a Barack Obama Presidency. The pendulum will swing back. Of this I am sure.

Immie
We have already seen that an effective insurgency can be brought to bear on the US military. To say that weapons such as we have would be ineffective is pretty much denies current news.

[namvet]

we probably have more gang wars here than in Iraq.

[AFbombloader]

We have already seen that an effective insurgency can be brought to bear on the US military. To say that weapons such as we have would be ineffective is pretty much denies current news.
One question, how many Americans would be willing to blow themselves uplike the terrorists are? I don't feel all that many would. We are not as fanatical, at least not in the same way as they are, are we?

[Immanuel]

We have already seen that an effective insurgency can be brought to bear on the US military. To say that weapons such as we have would be ineffective is pretty much denies current news.

I'm sorry, but I completely disagree.

There is a huge difference between what is going on in Iraq today and what would go on in America if a revolt were to take place. Even in Iraq, the insurgency has no chance against the U.S. Military. They swarm around like gnats doing about the same amount of damage and hope for a military victory is non-existant. Their only hope is that the U.S. will elect a President that really is willing to throw in the towel (not saying Obama is) and walk away defeated.

The situation in America is a lot different and would be even less sucessful than the insurgency.

Immie

[red states rule]

we probably have more gang wars here than in Iraq.

Do we need a surge in Chicago? (update)
Posted by: McQ on Friday, September 05, 2008

Isn't this the Democratic stronghold which the presidential contender from that party claims as home?
An estimated 125 people were shot and killed over the summer. That's nearly double the number of soldiers killed in Iraq over the same time period.
Really it's not "nearly double" (the total killed in Iraq during that period is 91) but it does make an interesting point - especially when you talk about a city vs. an entire country at war.

Not to worry - it's Bush's fault.

UPDATE: Actually it is nearly double. I added May and September into the number when, in fact, in the article, they counted from May 28 (Memorial Day) to Sept 1 (Labor Day). The total casualties in Iraq was 65 during that 3 month period. My bad.

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=9242

[No1tovote4]

One question, how many Americans would be willing to blow themselves uplike the terrorists are? I don't feel all that many would. We are not as fanatical, at least not in the same way as they are, are we?
Most IED are set off remotely and without necessary suicide. This too misunderstands the capability of a desperate mind. Just as all revolutionaries are desperate, and we would be if it came to this, necessity breeds invention and human nature is all that is necessary after that.

[AFbombloader]

Most IED are set off remotely and without necessary suicide. This too misunderstands the capability of a desperate mind. Just as all revolutionaries are desperate, and we would be if it came to this, necessity breeds invention and human nature is all that is necessary after that.

There are documented suicide bombings in Iraq, as well as other places in the area like Israel. My point was more to the mindset of the American vs. the fanatical person over there. I don't see Americans like that, even if the times turned desperate.

[No1tovote4]

There are documented suicide bombings in Iraq, as well as other places in the area like Israel. My point was more to the mindset of the American vs. the fanatical person over there. I don't see Americans like that, even if the times turned desperate.
I see many Americans with the Anarchist cookbook, and those without the capability cheering them on if it came down to such action becoming necessary.

[Immanuel]

I see many Americans with the Anarchist cookbook, and those without the capability cheering them on if it came down to such action becoming necessary.

A disorganized band at best and as you said foolish, well, you said desperate. Foolish would fit.

Immie

[Mr. P]

True, but times have changed. The arms we would have to bare today would be no match for the power of the U.S. Military wielded by a CIC gone wild. Just ask the Iraqi Army of 2003. Ask David Koresh... er, too late!

Americans would not stand a chance defending our country and our rights from our own government today. Don't even try to tell me that the American Revolutionaries stood against similar odds. Even with the arms they could bare, the organization would be non-existant and spell doom for a new revolut. There would be no organization and quite frankly, I would fear the outcome of a revolt more than I fear socialism.

That being said, in that sense, the 2nd Amendment is worthless today for that particular use.

I'm encouraged by the fact that I believe that even though Barack Obama and I do not see eye to eye, he cannot single handedly change America to his vision of how it should be. We've still got a chance even after 8 years of a Barack Obama Presidency. The pendulum will swing back. Of this I am sure.

Immie

Remember, MANY who own guns are former military...we know the tactics of war. We wouldn't be as overwelmed as you may think, I promise.

[Immanuel]

Remember, MANY who own guns are former military...we know the tactics of war. We wouldn't be as overwelmed as you may think, I promise.

I'm beginning to think you are delusional! :D

Immie

[Mr. P]

I'm beginning to think you are delusional! :D

Immie

Look to the history of Vietnam if you think gorilla warfare won't succeed against the military.

If the government made such a move I'd give it 6 months max before they're beat.

[Immanuel]

Look to the history of Vietnam if you think gorilla warfare won't succeed against the military.

If the government made such a move I'd give it 6 months max before they're beat.

Now, I know you're delusional. :D

Immie

[namvet]

Colin Powell also stated that Sarah Palin was not qualified to be President of the USA. Odd since she is more qualified than Osama, who Powell endorsed. Is Powell a racist??? After all he is a black man endorsing a black man and attacking a white woman.

The importance of Powell's admission regarding Supreme Court appointment is clear: Powell is not remotely a conservative and has been lying to America by pretending to be a normal citizen -- even a patriot -- while actually being a closet liberal.
Shame on him. He has been dealing in serious deceit big time. the military has lost ALL respect for this lying asshat.


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[hjmick]

I'm not convinced that Powell was ever comfortable in the Republican party. I sometimes get the feeling he chose the party because it was under Republican presidents that he rose in the ranks and subsequently given his positions of power. This is not to say that these opportunities were not deserved and earned, to the contrary, I believe him to be an honorable man and I have the utmost respect for him and the service he gave to the country. He earned everything he achieved, in my opinion. I just wouldn't be surprised if there were an old voter registration form out there with his name and a check mark in the box next to "Democrat" for party affiliation.

All that being said, I have no respect for any voter who allows the endorsement of any public figure to influence their vote. All voters should do their own research on the candidates and issues and make up their own mind. Sadly, there are far to many who wait for Brangelina to endorse a candidate or issue before they make a decision.

[Immanuel]

I'm not convinced that Powell was ever comfortable in the Republican party. I sometimes get the feeling he chose the party because it was under Republican presidents that he rose in the ranks and subsequently given his positions of power. This is not to say that these opportunities were not deserved and earned, to the contrary, I believe him to be an honorable man and I have the utmost respect for him and the service he gave to the country. He earned everything he achieved, in my opinion. I just wouldn't be surprised if there were an old voter registration form out there with his name and a check mark in the box next to "Democrat" for party affiliation.

All that being said, I have no respect for any voter who allows the endorsement of any public figure to influence their vote. All voters should do their own research on the candidates and issues and make up their own mind. Sadly, there are far to many who wait for Brangelina to endorse a candidate or issue before they make a decision.

That's funny, I thought there was a question about him running for President as a Dem at one time. I thought he switched parties around the time George Bush ran for President and considered him for the job of Sec of State. I'm not positive about that, but I think I remember him changing parties. As I said before, I respect the man and his decision to support Barack Obama does not change that one bit. Not everyone has to distrust Barack Obama as much as I do.

I read his book around the time of Bush's election. I am not sure, but I thought he was a Dem.

Immie

[retiredman]

Look to the history of Vietnam if you think gorilla warfare won't succeed against the military.

If the government made such a move I'd give it 6 months max before they're beat.


giant hairy primates were involved in the war in Vietnam?????:laugh2:

[Mr. P]

giant hairy primates were involved in the war in Vietnam?????:laugh2:

You were Navy you wouldn't understand. :poke:

[manu1959]

You were Navy you wouldn't understand. :poke:

have you ever seen navy camo......

[retiredman]

You were Navy you wouldn't understand. :poke:

I sure as hell know how to spell guerrilla. I guess that's not because I was in the Navy, but because, unlike you, I have an IQ in three digits and can speak and write the English language with more skill than a first grader.

[manu1959]

I sure as hell know how to spell guerrilla. I guess that's not because I was in the Navy, but because, unlike you, I have an IQ in three digits and can speak and write the English language with more skill than a first grader.

and so the slow crawl back into the gutter begins......

[Mr. P]

I sure as hell know how to spell guerrilla. I guess that's not because I was in the Navy, but because, unlike you, I have an IQ in three digits and can speak and write the English language with more skill than a first grader.

Awwww, how nice for you. Some day you may even attempt to use that BIG IQ, huh?

[manu1959]

Awwww, how nice for you. Some day you may even attempt to use that BIG IQ, huh?

and one day he will discover that 1.32.....is not a big number......

[red states rule]

and one day he will discover that 1.32.....is not a big number......

It is up to 1.32?

Wow, the night classes are starting to pay off

[Immanuel]

I sure as hell know how to spell guerrilla. I guess that's not because I was in the Navy, but because, unlike you, I have an IQ in three digits and can speak and write the English language with more skill than a first grader.

Was that necessary? Mr. P's comment to you was obviously in jest.

Immie

[No1tovote4]

have you ever seen navy camo......
Yes.

[Mr. P]

have you ever seen navy camo......

Solid White I think, so they blend with the French surrender flag. I may be wrong.


and so the slow crawl back into the gutter begins......

Doesn't take long does it.


and one day he will discover that 1.32.....is not a big number......

His caregiver will need to explain this to him.

[Mr. P]

Was that necessary? Mr. P's comment to you was obviously in jest.

Immie

It was indeed in jest...but yes it was necessary for MFM, that's how he is, a consistent ass.

[namvet]

I'm not convinced that Powell was ever comfortable in the Republican party. I sometimes get the feeling he chose the party because it was under Republican presidents that he rose in the ranks and subsequently given his positions of power. This is not to say that these opportunities were not deserved and earned, to the contrary, I believe him to be an honorable man and I have the utmost respect for him and the service he gave to the country. He earned everything he achieved, in my opinion. I just wouldn't be surprised if there were an old voter registration form out there with his name and a check mark in the box next to "Democrat" for party affiliation.

All that being said, I have no respect for any voter who allows the endorsement of any public figure to influence their vote. All voters should do their own research on the candidates and issues and make up their own mind. Sadly, there are far to many who wait for Brangelina to endorse a candidate or issue before they make a decision.

would you believe at voting locations ive seen people flip a coin before going in ????

[hjmick]

would you believe at voting locations ive seen people flip a coin before going in ????

Yes, actually, I do believe that. Scary, ain't it?

[namvet]

Yes, actually, I do believe that. Scary, ain't it?

ive heard voters say they will pick the dog with the least flea's :laugh2::laugh2:

[retiredman]

Awwww, how nice for you. Some day you may even attempt to use that BIG IQ, huh?

anything you say, gorilla!:laugh2:

[manu1959]

would you believe at voting locations ive seen people flip a coin before going in ????

heads i vote .......... tails i go to the bar .........

[retiredman]

and so the slow crawl back into the gutter begins......

not so. I made a humorous observation. Mr.P didn't seem to want to join in the laughter. If one cannot laugh at one's own failings, it is a sad sad thing...doncha think?

[Immanuel]

would you believe at voting locations ive seen people flip a coin before going in ????

Hand them a two headed coin and say, "Heads McCain; Tails Obama".

Immie

[Mr. P]

not so. I made a humorous observation. Mr.P didn't seem to want to join in the laughter. If one cannot laugh at one's own failings, it is a sad sad thing...doncha think?

And I made a :poke: at the Navy...what, no sense of humor? Give er up MFM..admit yer just an ass.

[namvet]

http://politicaldemotivation.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/automotivator.jpg

[retiredman]

And I made a :poke: at the Navy...what, no sense of humor? Give er up MFM..admit yer just an ass.

whatever ....gorilla!:laugh2:

[Immanuel]

whatever ....gorilla!:laugh2:

I thought we had eliminated most of the spelling NAZIs. Guess one still exists. Maybe we'll have to start pointing out typos on his part?

We all make them. I've caught myself typing and posting know when I meant no before and Lord nose ;) there are plenty of errors that I miss and never sea. ;)

Immie

Note: those spelling errors were intended even the ones I missed.

[Mr. P]

I thought we had eliminated most of the spelling NAZIs. Guess one still exists. Maybe we'll have to start pointing out typos on his part?

We all make them. I've caught myself typing and posting know when I meant no before and Lord nose ;) there are plenty of errors that I miss and never sea. ;)

Immie

Note: those spelling errors were intended even the ones I missed.

Yea right! :poke:

Seriously, it happens..big deal.

[Yurt]

and so the slow crawl back into the gutter begins......

:lol:

you sure about that word?

[retiredman]

I thought we had eliminated most of the spelling NAZIs. Guess one still exists. Maybe we'll have to start pointing out typos on his part?

We all make them. I've caught myself typing and posting know when I meant no before and Lord nose ;) there are plenty of errors that I miss and never sea. ;)

Immie

Note: those spelling errors were intended even the ones I missed.

using "gorilla" instead of "guerrilla" is now a "typographical" error?????:laugh2:
gmafb!

[red states rule]

The libs love Powell now folks

Colin Powell: A House Negro No More!
Former Uncle Tom, House Negro, and unrepentant war criminal, Colin Powell, gave his coveted endorsement to Barack Obama last weekend, hailing our future President as a "transformational figure".

Transformational, indeed! Saturday night, Powell was a still just a lapdog of the Bush Junta, a lying liar who lied about WMD's in Iraq, and had blood on his hands for the millions of innocent Iraqis that Bush murdered so he could steal their oil. But on Monday morning, Powell crawled out of his bed a "man of courage", a "true patriot", and a "great American". That's quite a transformation. And all he had to do to cleanse himself of his past sins was declare his unconditional love for Obama.

When it comes right down to it, blind devotion is all Obama really asks of any of us. In return, he annointest us with hope, change, and free health care until our cup runneth over. Even DicKKK Halliburton Cheney, Rummy RumselKKKd, and KKKarl Rove can be absolved of their crimes - and cured of various maladies ranging from male-pattern baldness to racism - if they simply drop to their knees and declare fealty to our future President, Barack Obama. And he will be our president, as long as the superstitious, bible-clinging evangelical nutjobs of the GOP don't get in his way.

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