Can the United States Survive a Marxist President?

[stephanie]

By Antonio Sosa | Saturday, October 18th, 2008 at 6:56 pm

Barack Obama has had close ties to Marxists, including unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and Obama’s relative Kenya’s Odinga, “Your Agent for Change,” the violent anti-American thug who made a pact with the Muslims to institute Sharia (Islamic law). Those ties, added to his plans to “redistribute the wealth,” concern many Americans.

There’s the hope, however, that even if Obama were elected, the checks and balances in the U.S. will make it impossible for Obama to impose Marxism in the U.S. and deliver the U.S. to its enemies.

But are those checks and balances in place? With Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the U.S. Congress has turned dangerously left and is being manipulated by the likes of Chávez and his Islamic terrorists and Russian friends. Only the worst can be expected if the U.S. ends up with a Marxist president working with a Congress manipulated by Marxists and Islamic terrorists.

Nancy Pelosi and Chávez
On April 2008, Latin American U.S. friends were shocked to learn that Speaker of the U.S. House Nancy Pelosi not only refused to step forward and approve the vital Colombia free-trade agreement, but she prevented anyone else voting on it.

After President Bush submitted the pact to a vote under fast-track rules, she changed them to ensure it wouldn’t go anywhere anytime soon. By a 224 to 195 House vote, the voting timeline rule on trade pacts was changed from 90 days to whenever. Pelosi now can hold up Colombia’s treaty however long her caprice dictates.

“The message Democrats sent today,” Bush warned after Thursday’s vote, “is that no matter how steadfastly you stand with us, we will turn our backs on you when it is politically convenient.” President Bush was right.

In spite of tremendous pressure and intimidation from Chávez, Correa, FARC and all other anti-U.S. forces, Colombia’s president Álvaro Uribe has remained a steadfast friend of the U.S. And he has been able to provide more security and prosperity to Colombians than any other president in recent history.

Democrats Freeze the Colombian FTA with the “Chavez Rule,” was the headline at Noticias 24 following Pelosi’s historic move to block free trade with Colombia. (See Latin American Media Paints Pelosi As a Chavez Lackey.)


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[Kathianne]

There is also the Ayers and the Chavez connection:


http://news.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/editorials/view.bg?articleid=1125136&srvc=home&position=rated

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/datelinedc/s_593877.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2099925/posts

[theHawk]

The anser is no, we will not survive. He will have complete power with absolutely no checks to balance his power, a full "yes-man" Congress, a liberal court. Its a reciepe for dicatorship.

[avatar4321]

we will survive. Atleast, I will. cause i am too stubborn not to.

[Sitarro]

Continental flies to Carraccus each night out of Houston but is talking about ending this service because of threats from the little troll to confiscate the planes.

[Nuc]

Bush is a Marxist president. This bailout is totally counter capitalism and only serves to reinforce lack of responsibility and accountability. :link:

[diuretic]

What a load of old bollocks. I mean, really, the GOP is on the nose, it's over for McCain-Palin and the right wing nutters are ignored.

None of that makes Obama a Marxist. To suggest he is anything but a capitalist is so stupid as to defy words. Yes, if you believe Obama is a Marxist then you are very stupid and you need to seek help.

There that teen weeny consideration of evidence.

McCain is a Nazi. He wants to enslave your nation and to meet with Angela Merkel to promote a great Nazi alliance between Germany and the US.

Bullshit isn't it? And that's how stupid your claims of Obama as a Marxist are.

Really stupid indeed.

[Kathianne]

What a load of old bollocks. I mean, really, the GOP is on the nose, it's over for McCain-Palin and the right wing nutters are ignored.

None of that makes Obama a Marxist. To suggest he is anything but a capitalist is so stupid as to defy words. Yes, if you believe Obama is a Marxist then you are very stupid and you need to seek help.

There that teen weeny consideration of evidence.

McCain is a Nazi. He wants to enslave your nation and to meet with Angela Merkel to promote a great Nazi alliance between Germany and the US.

Bullshit isn't it? And that's how stupid your claims of Obama as a Marxist are.

Really stupid indeed.

As your tag line says, 'eat the rich', seems you may have an iron in these coals. Not that a true Alinsky proselyte would ever tell a fib. ;)

[diuretic]

As your tag line says, 'eat the rich', seems you may have an iron in these coals. Not that a true Alinsky proselyte would ever tell a fib. ;)

Thanks for that remind Kathianne, I need to change it. The rich are loaded with bad stuff, fat, cholesterol, cocaine....I'll fix it, thank you for the info. :laugh2:

[Kathianne]

Thanks for that remind Kathianne, I need to change it. The rich are loaded with bad stuff, fat, cholesterol, cocaine....I'll fix it, thank you for the info. :laugh2:

For anyone that wants a place to start an inquiry of our banter, take a look at the outline at this link:

http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:yjO4xBEIHVsJ:www.ssc.wisc.edu/~oliver/Soc626/Lectures/Tactics.rtf+alinsky+disinformation+site:.edu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

[diuretic]

For anyone that wants a place to start an inquiry of our banter, take a look at the outline at this link:

http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:yjO4xBEIHVsJ:www.ssc.wisc.edu/~oliver/Soc626/Lectures/Tactics.rtf+alinsky+disinformation+site:.edu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

I have always used the source, Alinsky himself, I have never gone to a reference.

I have used him and to great effect and that was for a police union. And his teachings can be used to great effect by any small person or goup up against power. Reference Frederick Douglass. You demand, you must demand.

[Kathianne]

I have always used the source, Alinsky himself, I have never gone to a reference.

I have used him and to great effect and that was for a police union. And his teachings can be used to great effect by any small person or goup up against power. Reference Frederick Douglass. You demand, you must demand.

Nah, that was a syllabus for a soc. grad class. I've read Alinsky several times. There was a time I bought into it too.

[namvet]

ive already made arrangements to have ALL my financial assements moved overseas. and my wife and I as well !!!!

this is not about some god damned NI..ER its alll about ME !!!!

[No1tovote4]

If we can survive a Republican spendthrift we can surely survive a Socialist. I'd prefer not to have to, but we will survive.

[bullypulpit]

ive already made arrangements to have ALL my financial assements moved overseas. and my wife and I as well !!!!

this is not about some god damned NI..ER its alll about ME !!!!

Okay...B'bye now, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. :laugh2:

[theHawk]

What a load of old bollocks. I mean, really, the GOP is on the nose, it's over for McCain-Palin and the right wing nutters are ignored.

None of that makes Obama a Marxist. To suggest he is anything but a capitalist is so stupid as to defy words. Yes, if you believe Obama is a Marxist then you are very stupid and you need to seek help.

There that teen weeny consideration of evidence.

McCain is a Nazi. He wants to enslave your nation and to meet with Angela Merkel to promote a great Nazi alliance between Germany and the US.

Bullshit isn't it? And that's how stupid your claims of Obama as a Marxist are.

Really stupid indeed.

You seem to be forgetting that Obama sat in a Black Liberation Theology church for 20 years. The entire premise of the religion is one that worships Jesus as a black Marxist rebel. His own religion worships the idea of a Marxist Jesus, and you honestly believe Obama himself doesn't subscribe to the same ideology of his own god?

So of course none of what McCain and the Republicans do or say make him a Marxist, Obama's own religion does.

[April15]

We have survived a fascist one and are only somewhat worse for the wear. I can't see Barrack as being worse, only far better for America and the people who comprise this nation.

[Sitarro]

We have survived a fascist one and are only somewhat worse for the wear. I can't see Barrack as being worse, only far better for America and the people who comprise this nation.

There is a reason for that....... you're and idiot.

[OCA]

The anser is no, we will not survive. He will have complete power with absolutely no checks to balance his power, a full "yes-man" Congress, a liberal court. Its a reciepe for dicatorship.

Hawk, we survived W with his view of "unlimited executive powers" and his trampling of the constitution i'm sure that in the future if a Marxist ever runs we'll survive him/her.

[OCA]

There is a reason for that....... you're and idiot.

Sitarro why not try and defeat 15 with facts instead of taking the low road everytime.

[OCA]

You seem to be forgetting that Obama sat in a Black Liberation Theology church for 20 years. The entire premise of the religion is one that worships Jesus as a black Marxist rebel. His own religion worships the idea of a Marxist Jesus, and you honestly believe Obama himself doesn't subscribe to the same ideology of his own god?

So of course none of what McCain and the Republicans do or say make him a Marxist, Obama's own religion does.


Oh for the love of Christ!!!!!!!!!!:laugh2::laugh2:

[Kathianne]

Oh for the love of Christ!!!!!!!!!!:laugh2::laugh2:

I don't think Christ had anything to do with Wright.

[OCA]

I don't think Christ had anything to do with Wright.

And neither does Obama anymore.

Hey my wife once attended a radical Apostolic church that taught women were supposed to be submissive and seen not heard, even though she left it long ago does that mean she is still a follower?

You guys are grasping at straws in the final two weeks.

[theHawk]

And neither does Obama anymore.

Hey my wife once attended a radical Apostolic church that taught women were supposed to be submissive and seen not heard, even though she left it long ago does that mean she is still a follower?

You guys are grasping at straws in the final two weeks.

You are seriously comparing someone going to a church once, to a man who went to a church for TWENTY fucking years? And dedicated his book to his pastor?

If you go to a church and don't believe in what they are teaching, then you stop going and find another. Obama chose to be a member of his church and admitted that his pastor was like an uncle to him.

The only one reaching for straws here is you. :poke:

[Kathianne]

And neither does Obama anymore.

Hey my wife once attended a radical Apostolic church that taught women were supposed to be submissive and seen not heard, even though she left it long ago does that mean she is still a follower?

You guys are grasping at straws in the final two weeks.

What Hawk said. Anyone searching for 'answers' could wind up in a crazy place. 20 years of crazy? D'oh.

[Gaffer]

Hawk, we survived W with his view of "unlimited executive powers" and his trampling of the constitution i'm sure that in the future if a Marxist ever runs we'll survive him/her.

A marxist is running now. Don't count on surviving him.

[Kathianne]

A marxist is running now. Don't count on surviving him.

That is what OCA is banking on, he may be wrong but doesn't care.

[OCA]

You are seriously comparing someone going to a church once, to a man who went to a church for TWENTY fucking years? And dedicated his book to his pastor?

If you go to a church and don't believe in what they are teaching, then you stop going and find another. Obama chose to be a member of his church and admitted that his pastor was like an uncle to him.

The only one reaching for straws here is you. :poke:

And, if that is true, how is that resonating with the voters? Hows that working for you guys? I among a majority of Americans could give a shit less, same with Ayres.

The voters said they wanted a forward vision not old bullshit, you guys keep going back to the old shit and your numbers keep falling...............gee, wonder why?

[OCA]

A marxist is running now. Don't count on surviving him.

Who? The communists running somebody?

You guys are stetching................running out of shit to shovel, time is running short, two weeks left until I can start rebuilding the Republican party................no RINOS who supported McCain needed.

[Nukeman]

And, if that is true, how is that resonating with the voters? Hows that working for you guys? I among a majority of Americans could give a shit less, same with Ayres.That right there is the problem with the US today. Too many ASSHOLES "not giving a shit". Keep it up and you will have the US you want....

[OCA]

That right there is the problem with the US today. Too many ASSHOLES "not giving a shit". Keep it up and you will have the US you want....

Yeah because you only give a shit if you are right of center.

That right there is the whole fucking problem but I expect someone of your mental stature won't understand that.

[Nukeman]

Yeah because you only give a shit if you are right of center.

That right there is the whole fucking problem but I expect someone of your mental stature won't understand that.Whats the matter projecting your own mental feebleness onto others???? Can't except the fact that YOUR wrong!!!!!

[Gaffer]

Who? The communists running somebody?

You guys are stetching................running out of shit to shovel, time is running short, two weeks left until I can start rebuilding the Republican party................no RINOS who supported McCain needed.

You haven't figured out that obamanation is a marxist? You really aren't pay much attention to things are you.

What's this you guys shit? I'm an independent who would not be voting for mccain if there was a democrat running against him.

So you are the one that runs the republican party. Thanks for telling me. Now I know why it is filled with so many shit heads. It's all oca's fault. Now you, mr ego, are going to rebuild it. All by yourself? No rino's allowed? How you going to keep them out? Will it be built in your own image?

Somehow I don't believe their are enough oca's out there to form the new republican party that you envision.

You do realize that your credibility here ranks right there with the sage and joey steals. And lets not forget the booze influenced psyco.

[OCA]

You haven't figured out that obamanation is a marxist? You really aren't pay much attention to things are you.

What's this you guys shit? I'm an independent who would not be voting for mccain if there was a democrat running against him.

So you are the one that runs the republican party. Thanks for telling me. Now I know why it is filled with so many shit heads. It's all oca's fault. Now you, mr ego, are going to rebuild it. All by yourself? No rino's allowed? How you going to keep them out? Will it be built in your own image?

Somehow I don't believe their are enough oca's out there to form the new republican party that you envision.

You do realize that your credibility here ranks right there with the sage and joey steals. And lets not forget the booze influenced psyco.

You are sadly mistaken thinking that i'm the only one out there that feels this way, thats one reason why McCain will lose...........much of the base isn't going to turn out for him.

[OCA]

Whats the matter projecting your own mental feebleness onto others???? Can't except the fact that YOUR wrong!!!!!

Lets pick up the quality of the content here, I need motivation.

:lame2:

[Kathianne]

You are sadly mistaken thinking that i'm the only one out there that feels this way, thats one reason why McCain will lose...........much of the base isn't going to turn out for him.

So what if the 'majority' is with a shit call, it's still a shit call. Welcome to that.

[OCA]

So what if the 'majority' is with a shit call, it's still a shit call. Welcome to that.

Could it be that your call is a shit call? Is it ever possible that you could be wrong?

[Kathianne]

Could it be that your call is a shit call? Is it ever possible that you could be wrong?

Every bit as much as yours' have been. Starting with 'Clinton's don't lose.'

[OCA]

Every bit as much as yours' have been. Starting with 'Clinton's don't lose.'


Ok that was wrong but the fact that you are going to "old news" is telling, it means you know yur positions on the current campaign aren't holding up.

[Kathianne]

Ok that was wrong but the fact that you are going to "old news" is telling, it means you know yur positions on the current campaign aren't holding up.

Nothing of the sort. Indeed, I'm coming from a presumption of losing the election via my choice. Not my first, second, third choice. Just my eventual choice. Reality says I'll shed no tears. Then again, history may prove the lack of tears wrong.

You on the other hand, wish for tears. Wish for something that is a manipulation of the system. If you pull it off, well glory be. Not likely, you know it, but don't care.

[Gaffer]

You are sadly mistaken thinking that i'm the only one out there that feels this way, thats one reason why McCain will lose...........much of the base isn't going to turn out for him.

There are a lot out there that won't vote for mccain. But, unlike you, they are not pulling for obamanation. The messiah and a dem controlled congress will destroy this nation. It will be worse than carter. There won't be any rebuilding of the republican party. The dems and the media will totally destroy any chance of that.

You don't cut your nose off hoping in four years it will grow back and you will look better.

[April15]

There are a lot out there that won't vote for mccain. But, unlike you, they are not pulling for obamanation. The messiah and a dem controlled congress will destroy this nation. It will be worse than carter. There won't be any rebuilding of the republican party. The dems and the media will totally destroy any chance of that.

You don't cut your nose off hoping in four years it will grow back and you will look better.In this case it will be the surgical re attachment of the nose when Barrack is sworn in.

[stephanie]

with the cult worshipping of the Obambam..

I'm surprised we don't see a lot of people with brown noses..:coffee:

[DragonStryk72]

Okay, well, apparently need to develop a flow chart of some kind, cause so far he's a Muslim Extremist, A Christian Fundamentalist, A capitalist, a Marxist, an "elitist", a man raised on welfare, etc. ad nauseum.

Or maybe we roll dice for it.... ooh lok 23 he's a fundamentalist today!

[stephanie]

one word sums up the Obambam..

fraud.

[theHawk]

And, if that is true, how is that resonating with the voters? Hows that working for you guys? I among a majority of Americans could give a shit less, same with Ayres.

The voters said they wanted a forward vision not old bullshit, you guys keep going back to the old shit and your numbers keep falling...............gee, wonder why?

Oh wow, so some biased poll numbers don't show an uptick after its brought up, so that must mean we should never talk about it again. If the voters want to vote for some shitbag liberal who sat in Rev. Wright's church for twenty years then they will. It doesn't mean I will stop pointing out what a closet Marxist Obama is. Just because the masses overlook it doesn't mean we're wrong to talk about it. I doubt half of Obama's moronic followers could even explain what a Marxist is.

[Gaffer]

Okay, well, apparently need to develop a flow chart of some kind, cause so far he's a Muslim Extremist, A Christian Fundamentalist, A capitalist, a Marxist, an "elitist", a man raised on welfare, etc. ad nauseum.

Or maybe we roll dice for it.... ooh lok 23 he's a fundamentalist today!

He is first and foremost a marxist. He is not a muslim, though he would be considered an apostate. He will use them to achieve his goals, expecting he can placate them later. He has never been a christian fundamentalist. Even the term christian does not apply to him. He's a black supremest. He's an elitist and has never been a capitalist. He's never been on welfare. He is an extremely good liar. He is the perfect example of affirmative action achievements.

He's self centered and egotistical and has never done anything for himself. He has got where he is because of the efforts of others to put him there. And when in office those others will be pulling the strings.

[namvet]

In this case it will be the surgical re attachment of the nose when Barrack is sworn in.

you'll have to find it first. where is it???? up ACORNS ass. but of course

[April15]

you'll have to find it first. where is it???? up ACORNS ass. but of courseActually, you hold in your heart. It is time to give it back!

[namvet]

Actually, you hold in your heart. It is time to give it back!

no i don't. I gave my share. now im a taker. not a giver. got it????

[April15]

no i don't. I gave my share. now im a taker. not a giver. got it????As a veteran of America you should be getting the best of everything. But alas it seems that Semper Fi only goes to the battlefield. At home it turns to AMF. Sad sad deal.

[namvet]

As a veteran of America you should be getting the best of everything. But alas it seems that Semper Fi only goes to the battlefield. At home it turns to AMF. Sad sad deal.

whats a Semper Fi ?????

[retiredman]

whats a Semper Fi ?????

I can't believe you asked that question! The marines are a part of the naval service, you know. I would have thought that their slogan would be part of your lexicon.

[manu1959]

Okay, well, apparently need to develop a flow chart of some kind, cause so far he's a Muslim Extremist, A Christian Fundamentalist, A capitalist, a Marxist, an "elitist", a man raised on welfare, etc. ad nauseum.

Or maybe we roll dice for it.... ooh lok 23 he's a fundamentalist today!

that is because his story changes depending on who he is talking to.....

don't forget he was concieved at the selma march....and got food stamps before they existed....

[retiredman]

Oh wow, so some biased poll numbers don't show an uptick after its brought up, so that must mean we should never talk about it again. If the voters want to vote for some shitbag liberal who sat in Rev. Wright's church for twenty years then they will. It doesn't mean I will stop pointing out what a closet Marxist Obama is. Just because the masses overlook it doesn't mean we're wrong to talk about it. I doubt half of Obama's moronic followers could even explain what a Marxist is.

Actually, I can. It would seem clear to me that you are the one misusing the term.

[April15]

I can't believe you asked that question! The marines are a part of the naval service, you know. I would have thought that their slogan would be part of your lexicon.He's being a smart ass!

[namvet]

He's being a smart ass!

your right. everyone likes a little ass but no one likes a smart ass :coffee:

[retiredman]

He's being a smart ass!

I doubt it. I would wager he didn't know what Semper Fi was until I told him.

[namvet]

there has GOT to be a mental disorder speading in maine

[No1tovote4]

there has GOT to be a mental disorder speading in maine
If you are convinced it is contagious, why are you standing so close?

Go Navy!

[retiredman]

there has GOT to be a mental disorder speading in maine

if you haven't gotten any less geeky looking since that picture of you on the weather decks, I find it completely understandable that you might not be aware of the marine corps motto.

[namvet]

If you are convinced it is contagious, why are you standing so close?

Go Navy!

im not. im hundreds of miles away. thank god.