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[namvet]

Secret Service visits Lufkin woman after 'death threat' allegation from an Obama volunteer



By JESSICA SAVAGE
The Lufkin Daily News

Tuesday, October 07, 2008

A Lufkin woman received a surprise visit from the Secret Service last week because of a "death threat" comment she reportedly made about Sen. Barack Obama to a campaign volunteer asking for her support of the presidential candidate.

Two federal agents arrived at Jessica Hughes' home Thursday to ask her if she said, "I will never support Obama and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor."
Hughes said her words were deliberately twisted by a volunteer who was apparently unhappy Hughes was rude during a phone conversation the two had. The Lufkin mother, a Republican, said she received a call on her cell phone Wednesday from a woman with the Obama Volunteers of Texarkana.

"She asked if I was an Obama supporter, to which I replied, 'No, I don't support him. Your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the state Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time.' (And then) I hung up."

(Hughes is referring to a "born alive" Illinois bill that did not pass in the Illinois state Senate in 2005 and had previously been opposed by Obama because he said it undermined Roe v. Wade, according to FactCheck.org, a non-partisan organization. A federal version of the bill, which Obama said he would have supported, passed by unanimous consent and was signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2002.)

Obama Campaign Communications for Texas director Josh Taylor declined to comment Monday, refusing to answer any questions and referring the matter to the Secret Service, which he said is conducting an investigation. A message left with a Secret Service agent in Houston was not immediately returned.

Hughes said she was surprised to see two Secret Service agents at her door, and upset to learn that the conversation she had with the volunteer apparently had not been recorded.

"I find it hard to believe that (campaign volunteers) don't tape these calls. They call people unsolicited and they aren't monitoring the calls or recording them? I think that is absolutely ridiculous," she said.

"I mean, how often must this happen — that someone is rude to a volunteer that they don't want to talk to?"

Hughes said she wants to file a countercomplaint against the volunteer.

"She has made a charge that will follow me the rest of my life," she said.

"I find that repugnant and violating — that some person got her undies in a bundle because she didn't like what I had to say."





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so in addition to "fixing" the vote the storm troopers have a policy of intimidating those who disagree. seizing power by force. Sieg Heil Osama

[mundame]

Interesting story! People do need to be careful what they say; this caller woman turned her in!

It's a good reminder about careful speech. Thanks, namvet.

[Gaffer]

Interesting story! People do need to be careful what they say; this caller woman turned her in!

It's a good reminder about careful speech. Thanks, namvet.

The caller turned her in and lied about what she said. The amazing part to me is that their wasn't a recording of the incident and agents went to this woman's house based on hearsay. Sounds like the woman has a good defamation of character suit.

[April15]

Secret Service visits Lufkin woman after 'death threat' allegation from an Obama volunteer




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so in addition to "fixing" the vote the storm troopers have a policy of intimidating those who disagree. seizing power by force. Sieg Heil Osama

No big deal as I am on no fly list after Homeland security came to my house about a post i made 6 or so years ago about Bush and assassination. I can not obtain a passport either because of my deriding comment about Bush.

[mundame]

No big deal as I am on no fly list after Homeland security came to my house about a post i made 6 or so years ago about Bush and assassination. I can not obtain a passport either because of my deriding comment about Bush.


Wow! Good heavens, April15. Has all that changed your posting behavior?

[Gaffer]

No big deal as I am on no fly list after Homeland security came to my house about a post i made 6 or so years ago about Bush and assassination. I can not obtain a passport either because of my deriding comment about Bush.

One difference is you actually made the statement. This lady didn't. But it's a prime example of things to come.

[mundame]

The caller turned her in and lied about what she said. The amazing part to me is that their wasn't a recording of the incident and agents went to this woman's house based on hearsay. Sounds like the woman has a good defamation of character suit.


Why? She can't possibly sue.

How do we really know the caller lied rather than the woman the story is about? We don't know, because the call wasn't recorded.

The caller reported an assassination threat to the Secret Service and they acted, but it's ALL hearsay, both sides.

[avatar4321]

No big deal as I am on no fly list after Homeland security came to my house about a post i made 6 or so years ago about Bush and assassination. I can not obtain a passport either because of my deriding comment about Bush.

then you probably shouldnt threaten people.

[namvet]

or maybe this was an isolated incident??? yeah right

[April15]

Wow! Good heavens, April15. Has all that changed your posting behavior?Not at all! More people have woken up to what the administration is and are commenting in much the same way as I did way back then. Not on this forum but on many others and in letters to editors.

[April15]

then you probably shouldnt threaten people.What I said was not a threat. That is what makes it so funny. What I wrote was that this nation would be better off is bush was. That is an opinion. But it got a visit nonetheless.

[namvet]

Not at all! More people have woken up to what the administration is and are commenting in much the same way as I did way back then. Not on this forum but on many others and in letters to editors.

well that's certainly grounds for assassination ?????

[Immanuel]

Why? She can't possibly sue.

How do we really know the caller lied rather than the woman the story is about? We don't know, because the call wasn't recorded.

The caller reported an assassination threat to the Secret Service and they acted, but it's ALL hearsay, both sides.

Or, maybe it was recorded and the tape proves that the volunteer is a liar so they don't want to share it.

Immie

[GW in Ohio]

Secret Service visits Lufkin woman after 'death threat' allegation from an Obama volunteer




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so in addition to "fixing" the vote the storm troopers have a policy of intimidating those who disagree. seizing power by force. Sieg Heil Osama

Let's see....

Your post contains the following assertions:


The Democrats will steal the election for Obama by rigging the votes. (Do you really think they have to do this? I mean, Obama's up by double digits across the country.)
Democrats are Nazi storm troopers who intimidate anyone who disagrees with them.
Democrats will seize power by force, via a military coup.


You have a lot of credibility, as evidenced by these assertions. You are obviously one of the smartest people in the Republican ranks.

[theHawk]

Let's see....

Your post contains the following assertions:


The Democrats will steal the election for Obama by rigging the votes. (Do you really think they have to do this? I mean, Obama's up by double digits across the country.)
Democrats are Nazi storm troopers who intimidate anyone who disagrees with them.
Democrats will seize power by force, via a military coup.


You have a lot of credibility, as evidenced by these assertions. You are obviously one of the smartest people in the Republican ranks.

The evidence is all around you, you just choose to ignore it because it benefits you.

Obama has been able to squelched free speech during his run for the Presidency. Do you honestly think he won't use his powers as President to do more of the same?

If Obama is elected, we'll have never seen such a tyrant since King George III.

Actually, he'll probably be worse.

[Gaffer]

Let's see....

Your post contains the following assertions:


The Democrats will steal the election for Obama by rigging the votes. (Do you really think they have to do this? I mean, Obama's up by double digits across the country.)
Democrats are Nazi storm troopers who intimidate anyone who disagrees with them.
Democrats will seize power by force, via a military coup.


You have a lot of credibility, as evidenced by these assertions. You are obviously one of the smartest people in the Republican ranks.

The only point your wrong on is the third one. There won't be a military coup, they will use subversion and media propaganda.

[GW in Ohio]

The evidence is all around you, you just choose to ignore it because it benefits you.

Obama has been able to squelched free speech during his run for the Presidency. Do you honestly think he won't use his powers as President to do more of the same?

If Obama is elected, we'll have never seen such a tyrant since King George III.

Actually, he'll probably be worse.

You guys are just stone-cold crazy as loons.

Which is why I come back here.

[mundame]

You guys are just stone-cold crazy as loons.

Which is why I come back here.


At least you've GOT a reason. Lucky you.

[DragonStryk72]

The evidence is all around you, you just choose to ignore it because it benefits you.

Obama has been able to squelched free speech during his run for the Presidency. Do you honestly think he won't use his powers as President to do more of the same?

If Obama is elected, we'll have never seen such a tyrant since King George III.

Actually, he'll probably be worse.

Unlike Bush's "no free speech" zones? Are you seriously trying to assert that the Republicans aren't just as bad?

Oh yes, we've never seen a president who would take away rights, run roughshod over the constitution, screw over our economy, and generally manage to have about a scandal a week since his election, except of course for the one we have right now.

[Immanuel]

Unlike Bush's "no free speech" zones? Are you seriously trying to assert that the Republicans aren't just as bad?

Oh yes, we've never seen a president who would take away rights, run roughshod over the constitution, screw over our economy, and generally manage to have about a scandal a week since his election, except of course for the one we have right now.

A scandal a week? That was Clinton.

Of course, President Bush has had one long lasting fiasco instead of scandals.

Other than that, I would have to agree with you.

Immie

[theHawk]

Unlike Bush's "no free speech" zones? Are you seriously trying to assert that the Republicans aren't just as bad?

Oh yes, we've never seen a president who would take away rights, run roughshod over the constitution, screw over our economy, and generally manage to have about a scandal a week since his election, except of course for the one we have right now.

No, the Republicans aren't nearly as bad as Dems. They don't counter the other sides arguements by threatening legal action against them, they counter with their own opinion.

[mundame]

No, the Republicans aren't nearly as bad as Dems. They don't counter the other sides arguements by threatening legal action against them, they counter with their own opinion.


Threatening legal action against them? Are you saying that if people yell "Kill him!" from crowds at McCain's rallies, apparently referring to Obama, that this should be legal and no one should come after them? No Secret Service, no police, yelling "kill him" should just be free speech?

April15 apparently got in trouble enough threatening Bush on the Internet that he got his passport yanked AND can't fly on domestic airplanes!! (Wow, I'd love to have read that post, must have been a post-and-a-half.) Do people think posts threatening to kill presidents should be legal and carry no penalty?