McCain Can Kiss Ohio Goodbye

[krisy]

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Appeals court sides with Ohio secretary of state
By Terry Kinney
Associated Press Writer / October 11, 2008
Email| Print| Single Page| Yahoo! Buzz| ShareThisText size – + CINCINNATI—A federal appeals court sided with Ohio's top elections official Friday in her running battle with Republicans over how to verify the eligibility of newly registered voters.

The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals set aside a federal judge's order a day earlier that Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner institute the means to verify voter registration information and make it available to Ohio's 88 county election boards.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/10/11/appeals_court_sides_with_ohio_secretary_of_state/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Latest+news



I am so disgusted with this woman. She is completley biased. This isn't the first stunt she has tried to pull.

[avatar4321]

What the freaking heck? How on earth can you tell someone they cant verify voter registration? How ridiculous is that??/

[krisy]

What the freaking heck? How on earth can you tell someone they cant verify voter registration? How ridiculous is that??/

I'm with you av. As an Ohioan,I am outraged,and from reading around on the net I can see that many others are too. Why in the world would someone in charge of elections NOT want to verify that voters are real?!!! Or that there aren't made up voters?

First of all.she is lazy

Second,she,in my opinion,believes those fraudulent votes will be on Obama's behalf.

Greta Van Sustern has been covering this and has the Sec of State's e mail to let her know what people think. Ohio is very important in any election. This really sucks that we don't still have Ken Blackwell. He didn't take crap from anyone. Republican or democrat.

[theHawk]

Looks like they've already stole the election.


This election is going to rip this country apart.

[krisy]

Looks like they've already stole the election.


This election is going to rip this country apart.


no doubt. Between the economy and a candidate that is sooo far left,it seems people are more divided than ever.

Can someone appeal an appeals court decision?:coffee:

My husband put up a McCain/Palin sign in the yard yesterday. Of course,this morning while my neighbor and I were talking about the economy,she had to say...."well your voting for the wrong person if you want things to turn around""

I told her that I don't vote for socialists.:salute:

[mundame]

Conservatives have been complaining for four solid years about leftists saying the Ohio election was stolen from Kerry by the GOP in 2004. Rightists have been calling that "whining" for four years.

So how is this different? The election hasn't even happened yet and conservatives are already saying the other side is stealing the vote in Ohio?

I think they probably ARE indeed, but I don't see how you can denigrate people complaining about voter fraud and then go straight to doing it yourselves.

[theHawk]

Conservatives have been complaining for four solid years about leftists saying the Ohio election was stolen from Kerry by the GOP in 2004. Rightists have been calling that "whining" for four years.

So how is this different? The election hasn't even happened yet and conservatives are already saying the other side is stealing the vote in Ohio?

I think they probably ARE indeed, but I don't see how you can denigrate people complaining about voter fraud and then go straight to doing it yourselves.


Because there was no proof. We have proof that the left is enganged in rampant election fraud. Heard of ACORN? :poke:

[mundame]

Because there was no proof. We have proof that the left is enganged in rampant election fraud. Heard of ACORN? :poke:


Okay, that's a good argument.

It doesn't look too good, however. Ohio needs to get a lot more squeaky clean than it is if it's going to be a central battleground again and again.

[gabosaurus]

I am sure McCain will counter by stealing Florida. Again.

[actsnoblemartin]

I am sure McCain will counter by stealing Florida. Again.


thats funny, mccain wasnt the republican nominee in 04, or 00

does your hate ever allow you an ounce of intelligence?

[avatar4321]

I am sure McCain will counter by stealing Florida. Again.

Florida was never stolen by anyone in the first place. You're delusional if you think it was.

Let's face it our electorial system is already undermined. No matter who wins there are claims of cheating. If people feel like theyve been cheated there is more of a chance of a violent reaction. this is not good for the nation and this is exactly why there should be complete above the board oversight. So the people know the process is legitimate

[krisy]

Conservatives have been complaining for four solid years about leftists saying the Ohio election was stolen from Kerry by the GOP in 2004. Rightists have been calling that "whining" for four years.

So how is this different? The election hasn't even happened yet and conservatives are already saying the other side is stealing the vote in Ohio?

I think they probably ARE indeed, but I don't see how you can denigrate people complaining about voter fraud and then go straight to doing it yourselves.

As Hawk pointed out,there was no proof. There has been accusations of this fraud in 9 battleground states. Funny how it's just in the battleground states,isn't it? Why wouldn't a honest Sec of State want to make sure that the election is clean?

I'm also not going to go so far as to say if McCain looses,it's because of voter fraud and Jennifer Brunner.I do wonder tho,why this election was prretty much neck and neck and then all of the sudden Obama takes a good lead in the polls. When the left looses,it's ALWAYS because someone must have cheated them.

[PostmodernProphet]

Can someone appeal an appeals court decision?
first of all, if the decision was made by a short panel, it can be appealed to a full panel, and second, of course, it can be appealed to the Supreme Court if leave is granted....

[PostmodernProphet]

Conservatives have been complaining for four solid years about leftists saying the Ohio election was stolen from Kerry by the GOP in 2004. Rightists have been calling that "whining" for four years.

So how is this different? The election hasn't even happened yet and conservatives are already saying the other side is stealing the vote in Ohio?

I think they probably ARE indeed, but I don't see how you can denigrate people complaining about voter fraud and then go straight to doing it yourselves.

for one thing, we have evidence.....something you folks never bothered to present.....

[OCA]

Looks like they've already stole the election.


This election is going to rip this country apart.

WOW! Sounds eerily similar to comments in 2000, didn't we say that was bullshit crying?

Don't lower yourself Hawk.

[Kathianne]

Conservatives have been complaining for four solid years about leftists saying the Ohio election was stolen from Kerry by the GOP in 2004. Rightists have been calling that "whining" for four years.

So how is this different? The election hasn't even happened yet and conservatives are already saying the other side is stealing the vote in Ohio?

I think they probably ARE indeed, but I don't see how you can denigrate people complaining about voter fraud and then go straight to doing it yourselves.

Perhaps because the fraud found in 2004 was all on the Democrats side? Mind you, I'll complain about Ohio SOS and the court ruling. I may well criticize the election results, but I won't spend the next 4 or 8 years whining about it.

Truth is, with the exception of the small window at and shortly after the election, McCain has waged a horrible campaign. No need to steal it, he's begging Obama to take it.

[OCA]

McCain has waged a horrible campaign.

I told you that would happen.................way back in the spring when he sowed up the nomination, I told you the election was over then, just wrong on whom the Demo nominee would be is all.

[Kathianne]

I told you that would happen.................way back in the spring when he sowed up the nomination, I told you the election was over then, just wrong on whom the Demo nominee would be is all.

Still doesn't change all that you've written since, though I don't remember the spring stuff, I'll trust you on that.

[OCA]

Still doesn't change all that you've written since, though I don't remember the spring stuff, I'll trust you on that.

Who needs to change or worry about what i've written since? That stuff was thought provoking and spectacular commentary masterpieces.

[Kathianne]

Who needs to change or worry about what i've written since? That stuff was thought provoking and spectacular commentary masterpieces.

While that makes me laugh, it's more of the same. OCA, I do believe both Jim and I are hoping/challenging you to do more than beat your chest.

[OCA]

While that makes me laugh, it's more of the same. OCA, I do believe both Jim and I are hoping/challenging you to do more than beat your chest.

No, its not simply "beating of the chest"........its recorded fact.

[Kathianne]

No, its not simply "beating of the chest"........its recorded fact.

:rolleyes: 'There he goes, again.' :laugh2:

[OCA]

A thought just occurred to me, on this board if you argue against the Repub side you are a shit debater, if you argue for the Repub side you are brilliant.

[Kathianne]

A thought just occurred to me, on this board if you argue against the Repub side you are a shit debater, if you argue for the Repub side you are brilliant.

Actually I think there's times Diuretic is brilliant and have repped him for it. You are not Diuretic, your heart isn't in it. Well at least not yet.

[OCA]

Actually I think there's times Diuretic is brilliant and have repped him for it. You are not Diuretic, your heart isn't in it. Well at least not yet.

Whats said in rep then is certainly different then what is said in public.

[Kathianne]

Whats said in rep then is certainly different then what is said in public.

I've said so in public too, for Diuretic.

[GW in Ohio]

Looks like they've already stole the election.


This election is going to rip this country apart.

Stop whining. Your side hasn't even lost yet.

Once McCain loses and Sarah Palin goes back to shooting wolves from planes, you can start whining about how the Democrats stole the election, and the country is going to hell in a handbasket, and blah, blah, blah.........

:lalala::lalala::lalala:

[Gaffer]

Stop whining. Your side hasn't even lost yet.

Once McCain loses and Sarah Palin goes back to shooting wolves from planes, you can start whining about how the Democrats stole the election, and the country is going to hell in a handbasket, and blah, blah, blah.........

:lalala::lalala::lalala:

So how many times do you plan to vote? You'll have a busy day driving around casting ballots.

[GW in Ohio]

So how many times do you plan to vote? You'll have a busy day driving around casting ballots.

I'll vote at least twice. I'm registered as "Gaffer" in another precinct. When I show up to vote using that persona, I pretend I'm a cranky old guy who thinks we've delivered the country into the hands of the socialists.

[Immanuel]

first of all, if the decision was made by a short panel, it can be appealed to a full panel, and second, of course, it can be appealed to the Supreme Court if leave is granted....

By the time that could be accomplished, my guess is that it will be too late.

I can't believe that a Registrar of Voters would appeal to the courts asking that the courts allow her to avoid doing her job, yet keep that same job.

Immie

[Immanuel]

I'll vote at least twice. I'm registered as "Gaffer" in another precinct. When I show up to vote using that persona, I pretend I'm a cranky old guy who thinks we've delivered the country into the hands of the socialists.

Pretend? ;)

Immie

[mundame]

I'll vote at least twice. I'm registered as "Gaffer" in another precinct. When I show up to vote using that persona, I pretend I'm a cranky old guy who thinks we've delivered the country into the hands of the socialists.


Excellent. http://www.pagealumni.us/boards/style_emoticons/default/toothy4.gif

[krisy]

I'll vote at least twice. I'm registered as "Gaffer" in another precinct. When I show up to vote using that persona, I pretend I'm a cranky old guy who thinks we've delivered the country into the hands of the socialists.

As gaffer's daughter in law,I can tell you that you are wrong about the cranky old guy thing,but right on about delivering our country into the hands of a socialist. :no:

[mundame]

I don't know, if Gaffer does the personal attack thing in his family like he does here, you may be the only one who likes him.

[krisy]

I don't know, if Gaffer does the personal attack thing in his family like he does here, you may be the only one who likes him.


Never....I couldn't ask for a nicer dad in law:dance:

Let's remember tho,there are many on both sides here that are guilty of personal attacks.

[OCA]

As gaffer's daughter in law,I can tell you that you are wrong about the cranky old guy thing,but right on about delivering our country into the hands of a socialist. :no:

Krisy, what administration is currently in the process of nationalizing a large part of the banking system which is blatant socialism?

[Immanuel]

I don't know, if Gaffer does the personal attack thing in his family like he does here, you may be the only one who likes him.

Most likely not, I can attest to that.


Never....I couldn't ask for a nicer dad in law:dance:


Quit brown-nosing... it is unbecoming. :coffee:

BTW, have you told him what you want for Christmas yet? Right after he reads that post my be a good time to hit him up. :laugh2:

Immie

[krisy]

Krisy, what administration is currently in the process of nationalizing a large part of the banking system which is blatant socialism?

OCA, I didn't agree with the bailout. It's something that I disagree with Bush on. He is gone in less than 100 days tho. I'm talking about the guy who looks like he may win this election. Obama stands for nothing but big governent all around,and wonderful things like cutting taxes for 95% of Americans when 40% don't even pay taxes. Government run health care,the Fairness Doctrine.Not to mention,as big of a deal as the bailout is.....IMO,Bush doesn't want to control my speech and any other aspects of my life.

Something you might like to know tho......at my brother's house this weekend. My hubby,brother and I actually talked about you-lol!!! If I'm correct,you want the Republicans to loose as a kind of slap in the face....to wake them up. I actually brought this up over there and we talked for a while about how maybe that could be a good thing.

I still can't vote for Obama tho....it's just too dangerous. I think Repubs are allready hearing the message ,loud and clear.

[krisy]

Most likely not, I can attest to that.



Quit brown-nosing... it is unbecoming. :coffee:

BTW, have you told him what you want for Christmas yet? Right after he reads that post my be a good time to hit him up. :laugh2:

Immie


:laugh2:

You blew my cover...I was going to hit him up for my new car for Christmas tonight when my hubby calls him.

He is a very good dad and grandpa,truly.

[mundame]

Something you might like to know tho......at my brother's house this weekend. My hubby,brother and I actually talked about [OCA]-lol!!! If I'm correct,you want the Republicans to loose as a kind of slap in the face....to wake them up. I actually brought this up over there and we talked for a while about how maybe that could be a good thing.



A lot of people think that, but I would like to see the party replaced entirely --- Republicans out, Libertarians in. It's not impossible --- Republicans replaced Whigs, after all.

[krisy]

A lot of people think that, but I would like to see the party replaced entirely --- Republicans out, Libertarians in. It's not impossible --- Republicans replaced Whigs, after all.

Are Libertarians pro life? I didn't think they had a definite stance on that.

There are some good conservative Republicans still out there. Steve Chabot,from Ohio,is a great one. He got my SIlLs mom a disability check after her diabetes made her go legally blind. She was initially turned down. She wrote him a letter explaining to him that she had worked all her life and raised a family(was even shot at one of her jobs) and was denied this check when she truly deserved it.

Within two months she recieved her first check.

[Immanuel]

Are Libertarians pro life? I didn't think they had a definite stance on that.



Not really, but neither is Mundame.

Libertarians believe that the government should stay out of the issue of abortion, which when you think about it means that they are on the pro-choice side of the issue.

Immie

PS sorry about blowing your cover.

[red states rule]

http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/143654.jpg

[Kathianne]

I want that shirt, but can't afford it. Is it available via a government handout?

[Gaffer]

I don't know, if Gaffer does the personal attack thing in his family like he does here, you may be the only one who likes him.

Saying you deserve what you get is not a personal attack. It's an observation.

Another observation is that you and oca have been consistently wrong on all your visions of future events. So there is hope for us.

[Gaffer]

Krisy, what administration is currently in the process of nationalizing a large part of the banking system which is blatant socialism?

Bush and the dems. The repubs have been against it. McCain will continue it and obamanation will expand it. It's a done deal, once again, in spite of what the rest of the country wants.

[Gaffer]

I'll vote at least twice. I'm registered as "Gaffer" in another precinct. When I show up to vote using that persona, I pretend I'm a cranky old guy who thinks we've delivered the country into the hands of the socialists.

What would I expect from a lib.

[Kathianne]

Home / News / Nation
Appeals court sides with Ohio secretary of state
By Terry Kinney
Associated Press Writer / October 11, 2008
Email| Print| Single Page| Yahoo! Buzz| ShareThisText size – + CINCINNATI—A federal appeals court sided with Ohio's top elections official Friday in her running battle with Republicans over how to verify the eligibility of newly registered voters.

The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals set aside a federal judge's order a day earlier that Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner institute the means to verify voter registration information and make it available to Ohio's 88 county election boards.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/10/11/appeals_court_sides_with_ohio_secretary_of_state/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Latest+news



I am so disgusted with this woman. She is completley biased. This isn't the first stunt she has tried to pull.


But now overturned again, will it go to SCOTUS?

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20081014/NEWS0106/310150008


Court casts doubt on Ohio voter rolls

By Jon Craig and Dan Horn • jcraig@enquirer.com | dhorn@enquirer.com • October 14, 2008

....

Late in the day – in a victory for Republicans – the full Cincinnati-based 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a decision made last week by three of its members. The result: Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner must create computer programs to cross check all new voter registrations so that county boards of elections can doublecheck new registrants.

The Secretary of State will now have to verify new registrations by comparing information on them with data from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles or the Social Security Administration.

“As far as we can tell, the problem with the current system (of cross-checking) is not that it is insufficiently user-friendly, but that it is effectively useless,” wrote Judge Jeffrey Sutton, writing for the majority.

The court split 9-6 along mostly partisan lines. The only appeal would be to the U.S. Supreme Court, and it wasn’t clear Tuesday night if that would happen.....

[krisy]

But now overturned again, will it go to SCOTUS?

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20081014/NEWS0106/310150008


Great news!!! Glad someone in Ohio sees how important this is........


Jennifer Brunner is so lazy,it may end up in the Supreme Court