The Coming Counterrevolution To Hush The Alternative Media

[stephanie]

enjoy your freedoms while you can..just in case:cheers2:

By BRIAN C. ANDERSON | Posted Wednesday, October 08, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Conservative-friendly media better get ready. Should Barack Obama win the presidency and the Democrats control Congress, as now seems likely, they will launch a full-scale war to drive critics — especially on political talk radio — right out of legitimate public debate.

Conservative-friendly media better get ready. Should Barack Obama win the presidency and the Democrats control Congress, as now seems likely, they will launch a full-scale war to drive critics — especially on political talk radio — right out of legitimate public debate.

Signs of what the new environment will be like for the right are already evident:

• When the National Rifle Association recently released television and radio ads in Pennsylvania targeting Obama's history of anti-gun votes, the Obama campaign's general counsel fired off bullying letters to stations that ran the spots, implying that they may have violated public-interest obligations.

• When the 527 group, the American Issues Project, came out with a commercial linking Obama to former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers, the campaign (unsuccessfully) complained to the Department of Justice that AIP had broken campaign finance laws, and managed to spook some stations away from the ad.

• When two different conservative writers looking into Obama's background appeared on Chicago's WGN-AM Radio, the campaign's "action wire" energized its activists to bombard the station with rage-filled phone calls and e-mails, making the program more difficult to conduct.

(The show, hosted by the eminently reasonable Milt Rosenberg, had on both occasions invited the Obama campaign to send a representative to respond; the campaign preferred to answer with digital brownshirts.)

These crude efforts are only a start.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=308354689539729

[Mr. P]

What's that phrase...? To control the people you must first control the media.

Don't feel like ya got em beat with the net, they're working on regulating (controlling) that too.

[Gaffer]

He's the 21st century Mussolini. If he gets in office I will be proven right within two years.

[diuretic]

Settle down. The NRA were trying to verbal Obama and they got a slap.

Jeez, get a bloody grip. You have had BushCheney in there for 8 years screwing over your constitutional rights and only now it's an issue?

I dunno, some people just don't get it. You've been fucked over by the Evil Empire something chronic and now some right wing nutter yells "boo!" everyone shits their pants on command.

Come on you lot, you're not that weak are you?

[avatar4321]

Settle down. The NRA were trying to verbal Obama and they got a slap.

Jeez, get a bloody grip. You have had BushCheney in there for 8 years screwing over your constitutional rights and only now it's an issue?

I dunno, some people just don't get it. You've been fucked over by the Evil Empire something chronic and now some right wing nutter yells "boo!" everyone shits their pants on command.

Come on you lot, you're not that weak are you?

Despite the accusations against Bush/Cheney, I still have every right I had before their administration.

Obama, on the other hand, has connections to radicals who want to overthrow the Constitution. He has made campaign statements to the effect that he wants to restore the grossly misnamed "Fairness Doctrine". He has made it clear he wants to punish people for exercising their freedom and being successful in life. He has mentioned taking away guns (and vice verse). He has supported candidates in other countries who want to enforce Sharia law on their people and rise up against the people who lose. He has used intimidation tactics to silence his own critics.

And you think we are stretching here?

[GW in Ohio]

Despite the accusations against Bush/Cheney, I still have every right I had before their administration.

Obama, on the other hand, has connections to radicals who want to overthrow the Constitution. He has made campaign statements to the effect that he wants to restore the grossly misnamed "Fairness Doctrine". He has made it clear he wants to punish people for exercising their freedom and being successful in life. He has mentioned taking away guns (and vice verse). He has supported candidates in other countries who want to enforce Sharia law on their people and rise up against the people who lose. He has used intimidation tactics to silence his own critics.

And you think we are stretching here?

My advice to you semi-hysterical right wingers is to get out of your little closed circles, where no one contradicts your loony notions.

You've got too much political in-breeding going on. Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly or Hannity says something outrageous and you take it as gospel and embellish it, until you come up with really stupid ideas like:


Obama, on the other hand, has connections to radicals who want to overthrow the Constitution.

If you ever repeated idiotic statements like that outside of your wacko inbred circle, you'd be an object of ridicule.

[Immanuel]

Settle down. The NRA were trying to verbal Obama and they got a slap.

Jeez, get a bloody grip. You have had BushCheney in there for 8 years screwing over your constitutional rights and only now it's an issue?

I dunno, some people just don't get it. You've been fucked over by the Evil Empire something chronic and now some right wing nutter yells "boo!" everyone shits their pants on command.

Come on you lot, you're not that weak are you?


Despite the accusations against Bush/Cheney, I still have every right I had before their administration.

Obama, on the other hand, has connections to radicals who want to overthrow the Constitution. He has made campaign statements to the effect that he wants to restore the grossly misnamed "Fairness Doctrine". He has made it clear he wants to punish people for exercising their freedom and being successful in life. He has mentioned taking away guns (and vice verse). He has supported candidates in other countries who want to enforce Sharia law on their people and rise up against the people who lose. He has used intimidation tactics to silence his own critics.

And you think we are stretching here?

Wrong diuretic! I have been criticizing the Bush Admin since they announced the Patriot Act.

Avatar, although, I may not have suffered a loss of rights, Bush/Cheney opened the door a lot wider for their successors to remove my rights. I said (on other sites) that the Patriot Act was an open door for Hillary Clinton to screw over conservatives when she entered the Oval Office. Well, I was right about the open door, I was simply wrong as to which socialist would enter the Oval Office next.

Immie

[avatar4321]

My advice to you semi-hysterical right wingers is to get out of your little closed circles, where no one contradicts your loony notions.

You've got too much political in-breeding going on. Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly or Hannity says something outrageous and you take it as gospel and embellish it, until you come up with really stupid ideas like:



If you ever repeated idiotic statements like that outside of your wacko inbred circle, you'd be an object of ridicule.

He has connections to Ayers, Acorn, Odinga, Al-Mansour. He has close connections to each of these individuals and groups.

It's a fact, deny it all you want He has close connections to all of them. Its not some right winged conspiracy. Its not some smear. Its a fact.

Is seeing a D next to the nexts Presidents name worth destroying the country???

[GW in Ohio]

He has connections to Ayers, Acorn, Odinga, Al-Mansour. He has close connections to each of these individuals and groups.

It's a fact, deny it all you want He has close connections to all of them. Its not some right winged conspiracy. Its not some smear. Its a fact.

Is seeing a D next to the nexts Presidents name worth destroying the country???

avatar: The "connections" Obama has to those people and entities are so tenuous, they're non-existent for all practical purposes.

But I realize that desperate Republicans have little else to campaign on. Bush and his policies are completely discredited and McCain isn't making any headway campaigning in an above-board manner.

So you have to try and manufacture "issues" like this bullshit connection between Obama and Ayers.

Good luck....

[avatar4321]

avatar: The "connections" Obama has to those people and entities are so tenuous, they're non-existent for all practical purposes.

But I realize that desperate Republicans have little else to campaign on. Bush and his policies are completely discredited and McCain isn't making any headway campaigning in an above-board manner.

So you have to try and manufacture "issues" like this bullshit connection between Obama and Ayers.

Good luck....

Tenuous? Al Mansour helped finance his educaton. Ayers was instrumental on starting his politcal carrer. The man worked as a lawyer for ACORN and helped Odinga run for office on the tax payers money. These are tenuous connections? Nonsense!

But then I guess I have to remember Im talking to a guy who is worried that President Bush is not leaving office.

And if you dont think character and judgment is an important issue, then you are naive.

[mundame]

Obama, on the other hand, has connections to radicals who want to overthrow the Constitution. He has made campaign statements to the effect that he wants to restore the grossly misnamed "Fairness Doctrine". He has made it clear he wants to punish people for exercising their freedom and being successful in life. He has mentioned taking away guns (and vice verse). He has supported candidates in other countries who want to enforce Sharia law on their people and rise up against the people who lose. He has used intimidation tactics to silence his own critics.



At least two threads here are implying that leftists are more into censorship of speech than rightists.

I agree with that. Because of the strong and aggressive "PC speech" attacks on campuses and really everywhere that attempt to shut people up from saying what we really think. It's coordinated attacks, and it's mainly leftist.

Rightists hate certain ideas and will attack the person discussing them too, such as people who favor abortion freedoms.

However, over and over I have seen leftists attack the very DISCUSSION of issues such as race, indeed the very mention that someone is black, as if to bring it up is wrong and must never be said. Coordinated cries of "Racist, racist!" start immediately. GW, you've done that.

I've learned to just say stuff, if I want to talk about issues at all, but I agree that there is a strong desire among leftists to stop talk so they can overcome ideas with silence.

This probably is going to become a problem, if we let them get away with it.

[stephanie]

avatar: The "connections" Obama has to those people and entities are so tenuous, they're non-existent for all practical purposes.

But I realize that desperate Republicans have little else to campaign on. Bush and his policies are completely discredited and McCain isn't making any headway campaigning in an above-board manner.

So you have to try and manufacture "issues" like this bullshit connection between Obama and Ayers.

Good luck....


still sounding like a walking talking DNC parrot..you are so enamored with the notion of a Democrat getting into office, you have no desire to question his connections..

you are what they call a tool.

[Immanuel]

avatar: The "connections" Obama has to those people and entities are so tenuous, they're non-existent for all practical purposes.

But I realize that desperate Republicans have little else to campaign on. Bush and his policies are completely discredited and McCain isn't making any headway campaigning in an above-board manner.

So you have to try and manufacture "issues" like this bullshit connection between Obama and Ayers.

Good luck....


Tenuous? Al Mansour helped finance his educaton. Ayers was instrumental on starting his politcal carrer. The man worked as a lawyer for ACORN and helped Odinga run for office on the tax payers money. These are tenuous connections? Nonsense!

But then I guess I have to remember Im talking to a guy who is worried that President Bush is not leaving office.

And if you dont think character and judgment is an important issue, then you are naive.

You both forgot Wright and Farrakan.

GW those connections are not tenuous. Senator Obama may claim that he hardly knows these people but I believe that to be pure BS. Of course, he claims to barely know them. He wants to win. Those connections would be the end of the campaign for him. He OWES them and I imagine when he enters the White House, they will all come a collectin'.

Immie

[namvet]

its called the Osama "truth squad". in my state he's trying to stop the media and free speech against him. and to that end he's trying to use state prosecutors and even the sherriff dept's. he's also using it in SC and now Indiana. I posted this on here awhile back. rise of the Osama Nazi's is working in YOUR state to.


The Indiana campaign of presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama announced the formation of an "Indiana Truth Squad" today to “debunk any unfounded attacks against Senator Obama in the final weeks of the Indiana campaign and show Hoosiers why Barack Obama is the only candidate in this race who will bring change we can believe in.” A press release from the campaign identifies former U.S. Rep. Tim Roemer and Sen. Earline Rogers as members of Obama’s Indiana Truth Squad, along with Obama’s Chicago media guru, David Axelrod. Allow me to offer the first challenge to this so-called truth squad to tell Hoosiers and the American people the full truth about Sen. Barack Obama’s drug use.

Osama's hit squad (Osama's hit squad)

Obama Camp Threatens to Prosecute Critics in Missouri; Governor Blunt Responds
link (link)


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[namvet]

Settle down. The NRA were trying to verbal Obama and they got a slap.

Jeez, get a bloody grip. You have had BushCheney in there for 8 years screwing over your constitutional rights and only now it's an issue?

I dunno, some people just don't get it. You've been fucked over by the Evil Empire something chronic and now some right wing nutter yells "boo!" everyone shits their pants on command.

Come on you lot, you're not that weak are you?

you've hardly distinguished yourself. this coming from a nation who has the blood of felons and criminals surging thru your viens. hmmmm????

[GW in Ohio]

You both forgot Wright and Farrakan.

GW those connections are not tenuous. Senator Obama may claim that he hardly knows these people but I believe that to be pure BS. Of course, he claims to barely know them. He wants to win. Those connections would be the end of the campaign for him. He OWES them and I imagine when he enters the White House, they will all come a collectin'.

Immie

Immie: The Rev. Wright connection is a problem for Obama. But you have to bear in mind that he did disavow Wright and condemn the things he said, albeit belatedly.

But let's get real here.....

During the course of a lifetime in politics, any political figure is going to associate with many, many people and some of those people might be unsavory. In almost all cases, those associations with unsavory individuals have no influence on the political figure's positions or beliefs. Their value is mainly ammunition for political opponents who seek to discredit them.

Look, John McCain's associations with that Keating guy were pretty bad. Other senators were indicted, as I remember. McCain got off with a reprimand. He used very bad judgment and acted badly.

But it's over. I don't think McCain's ties to Keating should be an issue in this campaign and Obama hasn't hardly mentioned them.

It would be nice if the Republicans also campaigned on the issues instead of trying to discredit Obama by manufacturing stuff from his past.

But campaigning on the issues isn't working for them, is it?

[stephanie]

there's no hope for most Democrats..they don't give a damn that he associates with unrepentant terrorist, foreign enemies of the United States..

as long as their MAN-BOY gets elected their willing to overlook it all..

I hope they will be the first to suffer the consequences...:cheers2:

[mundame]

I've followed Obama's connections with Ayers closely and while I don't care so much about his '60s stuff, the guy is right now, front and center, an actual communist, and he worked closely with Obama to radicalize black children to grow up communist revolutionaries!! Ayers was specific about that: this is what he wanted from his "community organizing."

This is not okay with me.

The Wright thing shows he hates whites.

The parentage/schooling in Indonesia/Muslim relatives in Africa show me Obama is WAY too Muslim for my comfort. And way too interested in the turmoil in Africa.

None of this works for me at all.

[mundame]

What I actually think is that most people don't know about all this. They are in denial; they think that Obama must be like them, a normal American.

But actually he's WAY left and I don't actually believe he is in any sense on my side.

But I also think he's going to win, unless there is a darn powerful October Surprise coming up, involving war, which I wouldn't care for either.

[stephanie]

I've followed Obama's connections with Ayers closely and while I don't care so much about his '60s stuff, the guy is right now, front and center, an actual communist, and he worked closely with Obama to radicalize black children to grow up communist revolutionaries!! Ayers was specific about that: this is what he wanted from his "community organizing."

This is not okay with me.

The Wright thing shows he hates whites.

The parentage/schooling in Indonesia/Muslim relatives in Africa show me Obama is WAY too Muslim for my comfort. And way too interested in the turmoil in Africa.

None of this works for me at all.

get ready to be called a RIGHT-WING conspiracy nut who is desperate to smear the boy king..

[mundame]

get ready to be called a RIGHT-WING conspiracy nut who is desperate to smear the boy king..


As opposed to what you call me?

Hey, it would make a change.

[stephanie]

As opposed to what you call me?

Hey, it would make a change.

whatever.

[Immanuel]

Immie: The Rev. Wright connection is a problem for Obama. But you have to bear in mind that he did disavow Wright and condemn the things he said, albeit belatedly.

But let's get real here.....

During the course of a lifetime in politics, any political figure is going to associate with many, many people and some of those people might be unsavory. In almost all cases, those associations with unsavory individuals have no influence on the political figure's positions or beliefs. Their value is mainly ammunition for political opponents who seek to discredit them.

Look, John McCain's associations with that Keating guy were pretty bad. Other senators were indicted, as I remember. McCain got off with a reprimand. He used very bad judgment and acted badly.

But it's over. I don't think McCain's ties to Keating should be an issue in this campaign and Obama hasn't hardly mentioned them.

It would be nice if the Republicans also campaigned on the issues instead of trying to discredit Obama by manufacturing stuff from his past.

But campaigning on the issues isn't working for them, is it?

GW Ohio,

I think it is wrong of Democrats to sweep Senator Obama's connections under the rug. Maybe, I'm being pessimistic, but those connections worry me, just as the connections that George Bush had with the PNAC (Project for A New America (or whatever it is)) should have worried me. GWB's connections didn't worry me because I didn't know anything about them until right around the end of the Kerry campaign. People should know about Senator Obama's connections before the election not afterwords.

The worse part about this is that it is not just one or two strange people that we are talking about, it is a dozen or more and I'm betting there are more that we don't know about.

I'm hoping this is just pessimism, but I don't want to wake up to a brand new America in January. One that more closely resembles East Germany than the America I know and love.


get ready to be called a RIGHT-WING conspiracy nut who is desperate to smear the boy king..

And, Mundame, we MIGHT even forgive you for your fanatical abortion stance. :laugh2: But don't count on it.

Immie

[mundame]

And, Mundame, we MIGHT even forgive you for your fanatical abortion stance. :laugh2: But don't count on it.

Immie


I have no interest in "forgiveness" from you or others here, thanks anyway.

I believe what I believe, and sometimes I talk about it, that's all.

This is a battleground, and I am well aware that if people here had a killing button they could push from the comfort of their desk chairs, I and nearly everyone here would be dead inside five minutes.

I do not think that that the alleged commitment to "life" by rightists here would make them pause even a moment in killing millions that disagree with them, if they could do so easily.

[Binky]

Well, either way you slice it, we're in for a world of hurt no matter which bozo we elect. We'll either remain more of the same, or we'll be flying way out in left field.

And come Jan. 20th, we'll once again, be bending over and taking it in the rear.

[stephanie]

good grief, the wild and crazy imagination of some here is halirous..and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there...:cuckoo:


:lmao::lmao:

[darin]

My advice to you semi-hysterical right wingers is to get out of your little closed circles, where no one contradicts your loony notions.

You've got too much political in-breeding going on. Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly or Hannity says something outrageous and you take it as gospel and embellish it, until you come up with really stupid ideas like:



If you ever repeated idiotic statements like that outside of your wacko inbred circle, you'd be an object of ridicule.

In an effort to curtail the BS and Drama and otherwise mean-spirited things, GW has been removed from thread for going straight for personal insults.

[stephanie]

It's scary to see the cult mentality for the Obambam..

I wonder if they will follow him, the way people followed Hitler??

[Immanuel]

I have no interest in "forgiveness" from you or others here, thanks anyway.

I believe what I believe, and sometimes I talk about it, that's all.

This is a battleground, and I am well aware that if people here had a killing button they could push from the comfort of their desk chairs, I and nearly everyone here would be dead inside five minutes.

I do not think that that the alleged commitment to "life" by rightists here would make them pause even a moment in killing millions that disagree with them, if they could do so easily.

1) I was teasing you.

2) You do not need my forgiveness.

3) I would not be the one to push the button on your name.

4) I am committed to life and to women. There is no one on whom (not even JS) I would "delete" given that button even if there were no consequences to me for doing so.

Immie

[darin]

Well, either way you slice it, we're in for a world of hurt no matter which bozo we elect. We'll either remain more of the same, or we'll be flying way out in left field.



that's a cop out from a person who doesn't understand politics. We're NOT in a world of hurt. People will live, die, marry, prosper, and fail no matter who is elected; regardless.

[stephanie]

People may live, die, marry and fail..I'm not sure about the prosper part..

[Immanuel]

that's a cop out from a person who doesn't understand politics. We're NOT in a world of hurt. People will live, die, marry, prosper, and fail no matter who is elected; regardless.


People may live, die, marry and fail..I'm not sure about the prosper part..

Make no doubt about it, there will be people who prosper under an Obama Presidency. Who that is and at whose expense is the question.

Immie

[avatar4321]

You both forgot Wright and Farrakan.

GW those connections are not tenuous. Senator Obama may claim that he hardly knows these people but I believe that to be pure BS. Of course, he claims to barely know them. He wants to win. Those connections would be the end of the campaign for him. He OWES them and I imagine when he enters the White House, they will all come a collectin'.

Immie

I realized i forgot about Wright after I posted. But I had to go to court so i figured it took priority over editing.

[Immanuel]

I realized i forgot about Wright after I posted. But I had to go to court so i figured it took priority over editing.

I'm sure it did for your client, but you let the rest of us down. Shame on you! :lol: j/k

Immie

[avatar4321]

What I actually think is that most people don't know about all this. They are in denial; they think that Obama must be like them, a normal American.

But actually he's WAY left and I don't actually believe he is in any sense on my side.

But I also think he's going to win, unless there is a darn powerful October Surprise coming up, involving war, which I wouldn't care for either.

I don't think he is going to win. And I dont think the Obama supporters are so confident either. Obama should be 15+ points ahead. He is barely in the lead and who knows how off the polls are. You also dont see people who are confident in a win cheating the way the Democrats are trying.

He very may well win. If he does, we will deal with it somehow, but im not about to have this race pronounced over.

[Immanuel]

I don't think he is going to win. And I dont think the Obama supporters are so confident either. Obama should be 15+ points ahead. He is barely in the lead and who knows how off the polls are. You also dont see people who are confident in a win cheating the way the Democrats are trying.

He very may well win. If he does, we will deal with it somehow, but im not about to have this race pronounced over.

Avatar4321... the eternal optimist. :)

Immie

[mundame]

1) I was teasing you.

2) You do not need my forgiveness.

3) I would not be the one to push the button on your name.

4) I am committed to life and to women. There is no one on whom (not even JS) I would "delete" given that button even if there were no consequences to me for doing so.

Immie


I'm sure all that is true, and thank you for being a peaceful person; there are too few, too few. http://macg.net/emoticons/peace.gif

[Kathianne]

You both forgot Wright and Farrakan.

GW those connections are not tenuous. Senator Obama may claim that he hardly knows these people but I believe that to be pure BS. Of course, he claims to barely know them. He wants to win. Those connections would be the end of the campaign for him. He OWES them and I imagine when he enters the White House, they will all come a collectin'.

Immie

Immie, two years ago I warned some that were excited about Obama to hold on, he wasn't just a good looking, brilliant black man, there was more to him and much that couldn't be found. It's starting to trickle out, but will flood out, after he's elected:

http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/10132008/postopinion/editorials/obamas_hot_ayers_133420.htm


OBAMA'S HOT AYERS

October 13, 2008 --

Barack Obama blasted John McCain last week for focusing on the Democratic nominee's links to shady char acters instead of the economy.

Actually, McCain's said plenty about the economy. But Obama clearly would rather talk about anything but his past.

Obama first became defensive when McCain running mate Sarah Palin accused him of "palling around with terrorists" - a reference to his ties to Bill Ayers, who co-founded the radical Weather Underground and bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol and NYPD headquarters.

Obama's main answer? All of that happened when he was eight years old.

That's lame, for sure.

But Ayers' distant past isn't the only reason to distrust him. He has a present, as well - and Obama is a part of it.

The two of them have worked hard to radicalize Chicago's public schools.

Ayers' work funding radical "education" groups in Chicago came just in the last 12 years. And he teamed up directly with Obama on that.

As The Wall Street Journal has reported, Ayers and Obama worked for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. "CAC translated Mr. Ayers' radicalism into practice," notes the Journal. "It required schools to affiliate with 'external partners' " for their funding.

"Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead, CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers," such as ACORN.

Ayers seemed to envision schools as "sites of resistance" and for teaching kids to oppose "oppression," with a focus on America's evil and racist past - and an eye toward "social transformation."

This is the swamp in which Obama operated: The Journal notes that Obama was chairman of the CAC board, which handled fiscal matters. ...

[Kathianne]

I hope this isn't a double post, I read this yesterday:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-mk-bd-12-oct12,0,5393672.column


chicagotribune.com
Daley reins in radicals — the Chicago Way

John Kass

5:26 PM CDT, October 11, 2008

Turn on the TV news when John McCain is picking up undecided voters by invoking Barack Obama's relationship with unrepentant American terrorist William Ayers and, invariably, some liberal talking head will sniff in disgust and say Ayers is no big deal where Obama comes from.

Unfortunately, that's true. Ayers is a terrorist. But this is Chicago.

Obama and Ayers are neighbors and they worked together on school issues with the same foundation. Obama's political coming-out party was held in Ayers' living room when Obama was running for his first political office.

And the boss of Chicago is Mayor Richard Daley. Mayor Shortshanks has thrown his protective embrace around both men. These are facts.

But the reason Ayers is not a big deal in Chicago has to do with the Chicago Way, and the left fork of that road that has been bought and paid for by the Daley machine, subsidized by taxpayers who foot the bill for public relations contracts from City Hall....

[Immanuel]

Immie, two years ago I warned some that were excited about Obama to hold on, he wasn't just a good looking, brilliant black man, there was more to him and much that couldn't be found. It's starting to trickle out, but will flood out...

Good looking? I didn't realize he was. Is he?

Immie

[Kathianne]

Good looking? I didn't realize he was. Is he?

Immie

Yep, he has that 'aura'. :laugh2: Seriously, yeah he is.

[Immanuel]

Well, then, I guess that must be what it takes to be qualified to be the leader of the free world; because that has got to be all he has... that and his "devilish charm".

Immie

[namvet]

Well, then, I guess that must be what it takes to be qualified to be the leader of the free world; because that has got to be all he has... that and his "devilish charm".

Immie



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[manu1959]

My advice to you semi-hysterical right wingers is to get out of your little closed circles, where no one contradicts your loony notions.
You've got too much political in-breeding going on. Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly or Hannity says something outrageous and you take it as gospel and embellish it, until you come up with really stupid ideas like:
If you ever repeated idiotic statements like that outside of your wacko inbred circle, you'd be an object of ridicule.

My advice to you semi-hysterical left wingers is to get out of your little closed circles, where no one contradicts your loony notions.

You've got too much political in-breeding going on. Keith Overblown or Colms says something outrageous and you take it as gospel and embellish it, until your spokes people come up with really stupid ideas like:

McCain, on the other hand, wants strict constitutionalist that will reinstate slavery.

If you ever repeated idiotic statements like that outside of your wacko inbred circle, you'd be an object of ridicule.

[stephanie]

:lol::clap:

[Abbey Marie]

there's no hope for most Democrats..they don't give a damn that he associates with unrepentant terrorist, foreign enemies of the United States..

as long as their MAN-BOY gets elected their willing to overlook it all..

I hope they will be the first to suffer the consequences...:cheers2:

I began to realize our country was headed for inexorable ruin, when American left wing-nuts started blaming us for the 9-11 attacks. Really, is there anything left to hope for when it gets that bad?

[avatar4321]

I began to realize our country was headed for inexorable ruin, when American left wing-nuts started blaming us for the 9-11 attacks. Really, is there anything left to hope for when it gets that bad?

Yes. there is. Our children.

[hjmick]

Michael Barone has an interesting commentary out today, kind of follows this topic:

The coming liberal thugocracy (http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/13/the-coming-thugocracy/print/)

"Today's liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that once prided themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.

Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Mr. Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech they don't like and seem utterly oblivious to claims this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead."

[Kathianne]

Michael Barone has an interesting commentary out today, kind of follows this topic:

The coming liberal thugocracy (http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/13/the-coming-thugocracy/print/)

"Today's liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that once prided themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.

Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Mr. Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech they don't like and seem utterly oblivious to claims this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead."
Indeed. I believe Stephanie wrote about the Rosenberg program when that happened. It was even worse when Corsi was on.

Then there are the articles about Obama that went missing, over a year ago. Can't find them, even on Nexus/Lexus. Same with is official website. He changes his mind; realizes something is there that may cause problems-zip down the memory hole. It's like 1984 showed up 24 years late.

[Abbey Marie]

Yes. there is. Our children.

Yes, our children. Those precious minds that are being indoctrinated in the public schools and almost every university, to believe in all those lib ideals.

[Kathianne]

Yes, our children. Those precious minds that are being indoctrinated in the public schools and almost every university, to believe in all those lib ideals.

It's the parent's job to inoculate against that. When it comes to a 'global view' it's parents, not school that influences. Take heart.

[mundame]

I began to realize our country was headed for inexorable ruin, when American left wing-nuts started blaming us for the 9-11 attacks. Really, is there anything left to hope for when it gets that bad?


No, I agree with you. That was a REAL bad sign. I thought so too.

I think the kernal of it is that it is acceptable to say that openly, and nobody offers to put them in a mental institution --- it's....respectable to say.

Saying totally insane partisan things with no proof of any kind is now just fine, to work people up.

[Abbey Marie]

No, I agree with you. That was a REAL bad sign. I thought so too.

I think the kernal of it is that it is acceptable to say that openly, and nobody offers to put them in a mental institution --- it's....respectable to say.

Saying totally insane partisan things with no proof of any kind is now just fine, to work people up.

And the level of partisan anger is unprecedented in my liftetime.

[mundame]

And the level of partisan anger is unprecedented in my liftetime.

I agree, and I remember the 'Sixties well. The young college people were really furious then, but that was about it; other groups were not as angry.

Now everybody is angry.

[hjmick]

I'm not angry, I'm disgusted.