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The Bare Knuckled Pundit
10-02-2008, 02:34 PM
With 32% of voters saying tonight’s vice presidential debate is Very Important in deciding how they will ultimately vote and Barack Obama having pulled out to a 5.7% lead in the Real Clear Politics average of the major polls, the stakes for Alaska Governor and Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin are indeed high. Given the surge in the polls Obama has enjoyed over the past two weeks, with 74% of voters indicating they are Very Likely to watch, tonight’s debate may be one of the last opportunities for the McCain/Palin team to break the Democrat’s momentum.

Though analysts and pundits were split over who won Friday evening’s presidential debate, voters gave the win to Obama, edging out McCain 36% to 33%. In the process, Obama moved into the lead for being most trusted on 10 major issues from taxes and health care to Social Security and the environment. Though statistically insignificant at 1%, Obama has even taken the lead from McCain on the issue of who you trust more to handle the war in Iraq.

Though these numbers add to the dark clouds that have doggedly stalked the McCain campaign over the past two weeks, there is a proverbial silver lining and glimmer of hope. While McCain was narrowly lost to Obama in Rassmussen’s post-debate poll, 31% of voters were undecided. That corresponds directly with the 32% of voters indicating tonight’s showdown between the two second-seaters will greatly influence their vote in the presidential race.

While this provides the Republican ticket an opening in what appears to be a closing window of opportunity, it also compounds the pressure placed on Palin.

Having stumbled energetically through a handful of televised interviews of the past month that could most charitably by characterized as less than reassuring, expectations for her performance are exceedingly low in the media. With 54% of voters identifying her opponent, Joe Biden, as the more skilled debater, this evening's meeting provides the Republican ticket with both significant opportunities and potentially equally significant pitfalls.

As visions of Dan Quayle haunt Republicans and fill political cartoons, Palin finds herself in an unenviable position. Much like the days leading up to her selection as his running mate, McCain again looks to the Alaska Governor to provide him with game-changing relief. Having initially energized a previously uninspired Republican base and stolen the media spotlight from Obama, subsequent concerns about her substance and credibility have resulted in the bloom falling off the Alaskan rose.

That being the case, tonight’s debate may well be a tipping point.

The pressure is on for Palin to deliver a concise, focused, substantive and credible performance. Delivering that, she and McCain live to fight another day.

Should the House follow the Senate’s lead and pass the $700 billion bank bailout/rescue package, the dire economic headlines may subside and provide the Republican ticket with a long sought after respite. In conjunction with a strong showing on Palin’s part tonight, this may allow McCain to arrest the freefall he’s suffered in the polls of late. With little more than four weeks left in the campaign, it may be the Republican’s last chance to mount a credible counteroffensive in the face of the Democrat’s growing momentum.

If that is to happen, Palin must rally the troops tonight, signaling that the battle is not yet lost and steeling the troops for a final, climatic surge.

In contrast, should Palin appear out of her depth and over her head, it will confirm the growing impression among the media and the electorate that she is unqualified and was a rash, if not cynical, pick. Should that occur, for all intents and purposes, barring an unforeseen October surprise, the race will effectively be over.

So, faithful readers, the question is – Will the Alaskan rose boldly blossom yet again or die, withering sadly on the vine, a pale and faded shadowed of its once radiant self? Stay tuned for further updates as events warrant and the horticultural forecast firms up.

manu1959
10-02-2008, 02:58 PM
so 32% of voters say this will help them decide....yet obama leads 48% 42% which is 90% of the voters.....yes polls are so reliable.....

yet another great post btw.............

Psychoblues
10-03-2008, 01:30 AM
She did OK but a rose she is not.

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

PostmodernProphet
10-03-2008, 04:19 AM
I don't know....I saw thorns.....

GW in Ohio
10-03-2008, 07:44 AM
There aren't usually any winners or losers in these debates. What you get is each candidate showing what they're made of.

But......

If either side derived an advantage from last night's debate it was definitely the Republicans.

Joe Biden was Joe Biden and pretty much performed as expected. He made all the points he needed to make.

But Sarah Palin's stock rose 100% last night. Why? Because she didn't come across as a complete idiot. Her debate preparation showed, and she was able to answer questions, instead of looking like a deer caught in a semi's headlights.

The questions she answered weren't necessarily the questions that were asked, but never mind. Compared to her previous performances with Katie Couric, she was brilliant.

"Hey, can I call ya Joe?"

midcan5
10-03-2008, 08:39 AM
Hooray! Palin isn't a complete idiot!

Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?

Yurt
10-03-2008, 11:54 AM
There aren't usually any winners or losers in these debates. What you get is each candidate showing what they're made of.

But......

If either side derived an advantage from last night's debate it was definitely the Republicans.

Joe Biden was Joe Biden and pretty much performed as expected. He made all the points he needed to make.

But Sarah Palin's stock rose 100% last night. Why? Because she didn't come across as a complete idiot. Her debate preparation showed, and she was able to answer questions, instead of looking like a deer caught in a semi's headlights.

The questions she answered weren't necessarily the questions that were asked, but never mind. Compared to her previous performances with Katie Couric, she was brilliant.

"Hey, can I call ya Joe?"

i think biden got a tingle up his leg when she said that

retiredman
10-03-2008, 12:14 PM
she was adaquate. A bit too folksy for my tastes, but she did not embarrass herself or her party.

red states rule
10-03-2008, 12:17 PM
she was adaquate. A bit too folksy for my tastes, but she did not embarrass herself or her party.

Translation - Gov Palin kicked his ass, and showed respect for those damn worthless commoners

Here is one of the best parts of the debate

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GW in Ohio
10-03-2008, 01:42 PM
Translation - Gov Palin kicked his ass, and showed respect for those damn worthless commoners

Here is one of the best parts of the debate

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No, she didn't "kick his ass," and he didn't kick hers. You have a childishly partisan views of these debates.

Sarah didn't throw up all over herself, she didn't freeze up when asked a question, and she was able to regurgitate GOP talking points in a semi-coherent (though disjointed and inappropriate) manner.

So I'd say her performance was a success. It certainly reassured her GOP base, many members of which were having serious doubts about her inclusion on the ticket.

She still has no business being the vice president. Her experience is ludicrously thin, and although she likes to portray herself as the champion of Mr. and Mrs. Joe Sixpack, her views on Iraq and abortion are out of step with the majority of Americans.

red states rule
10-03-2008, 01:46 PM
No, she didn't "kick his ass," and he didn't kick hers. You have a childishly partisan views of these debates.

Sarah didn't throw up all over herself, she didn't freeze up when asked a question, and she was able to regurgitate GOP talking points in a semi-coherent (though disjointed and inappropriate) manner.

So I'd say her performance was a success. It certainly reassured her GOP base, many members of which were having serious doubts about her inclusion on the ticket.

She still has no business being the vice president. Her experience is ludicrously thin, and although she likes to portray herself as the champion of Mr. and Mrs. Joe Sixpack, her views on Iraq and abortion are out of step with the majority of Americans.

If her experience is ludicrously thin - Obama's is nonexistent

BTW, her views on Iraq are within the view of the majority


Poll: 41% Say Iraq War Succeeding, 48% Say Will Get Even Better
By Warner Todd Huston (Bio | Archive)
October 1, 2008 - 23:37 ET

Granted the focus of today's news is overwhelmingly on the bailout and the presidential race, but there is also big news on how Americans are now seeing the war effort. The pendulum has swung from despair to hopeful belief and this is important news that impinges on the elections.

Rasmussen released new data on September 30 that shows that more Americans are now viewing the war as a success and a growing number think that things will get even better in the near future. This is the highest support that Rasmussen has seen since they began to report on this issue. Curiously, news of the war has completely dropped off the radar of the Old Media.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/10/01/poll-41-say-iraq-war-succeeding-48-say-will-get-even-better



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