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stephanie
03-15-2007, 05:45 PM
Woo we....If Edwards is elected President, I'm taking all my money and burying it in the ground...:slap:

By JOHN DISTASO
Senior Political Reporter
2 hours, 3 minutes ago


Goffstown – Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards proposed today that the United States spend $5 billion annually to lead a worldwide effort to end global poverty through education and health care initiatives.

The former North Carolina senator said his effort would not only be a “good and moral thing,” but it would also make the United States safer.

“We know that terrorists thrive in failed states and in states torn apart by internal conflict and poverty,” he said in a speech at Saint Anselm College. In Africa and Muslim countries, he said, millions of children are being educated “in madrassas run by militant extremists.

“When you understand that,” he said, “it suddenly becomes clear: global poverty is not just a moral issue for the United States,” but also a “national security issue.”

In his 30-minute address to students, faculty and activists, Edwards also reiterated his plan for domestic universal health care, an ambitious effort to address global warming and repair of this nation’s public education system, which he said “remains shockingly unequal” more than 50 years after the landmark Brown v. Board of Education ruling outlawing segregated schools.

While yet to produce a specific budget for his plan, Edwards estimated the U.S. would contribute $3 billion of an estimated $10 billion worldwide cost to bring “basic education” to 23 million children in impoverished nations by 2015.

He would commit $600 million for overseas health-related initiatives, including programs for clean water.

Bringing economic opportunities to the poor worldwide, he said, would cost about $1.4 million.

Wealthy Americans would foot the bill, Edwards said.

“If, and I’m not saying at this moment I’m going to do it, but if there has to be another revenue source, it can’t come from middle or low-income taxpayers,” he told reporters after the speech.

He said his previously announced domestic poverty initiatives, including universal health care, would cost about $15 billion. “So, we’re talking about $15 billion to $20 billion, and I’m going to have to find ways to pay for that,” he said.

But, he added, “Middle class families should not have their taxes increased. They are already overburdened with taxes and are carrying an unfair share, relative to income, of the tax burden in this country.”

For more details on Edwards' plan, see the New Hampshire Union Leader and UnionLeader.com tomorrow.
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Edwards%3A+World+poverty+mus t+end%2C+rich+must+pay&articleId=8fc697b7-db6a-4197-baad-f5d00433e6af

Nienna
03-15-2007, 06:36 PM
The terrorists seem to be doing pretty well in France, growing & all. Heck, isn't it even the fastest-growing religion here in the US of A? Financial poverty isn't what's causing Islam to prosper. Moral poverty is the cause. People are searching for purpose, meaning, belonging, and boundaries. Christianity is the new Satanism, but Islam is hailed as "the religion of peace" in the press. Governments are bending over backward to accommodate Muslim "requests." That's why this religion is growing.

Mr. P
03-15-2007, 07:06 PM
Typical democrat ‘class war’ shit. It’s old and they haven’t figured out it doesn’t really work very well anymore.

Gaffer
03-15-2007, 08:41 PM
It has never worked. Look at russia for a prime example of socialism. Every socialist society fails economically. This country would do the same if run by someone like edwards.

LiberalNation
03-15-2007, 08:48 PM
World poverty will never end. There always going to be people who have more than others.

Hobbit
03-15-2007, 09:50 PM
World poverty will never end. There always going to be people who have more than others.

Exactly. Jesus said, "The poor will always be with you." Here in the U.S., our prosperity means that only the very poorest of the poor have to worry about such staples as food and shelter. By encouraging prosperity, we give the poor jobs, as well as greater amounts of charity giving. This, more than anything else, will help the poor. If you are determined to take from others and give to the poor, you only make everybody poor.

manu1959
03-15-2007, 09:58 PM
you know what i say....talk is cheap....you first mr. edwards...if you give all yours away and move into a trailer park so will i

GW in Ohio
03-16-2007, 11:39 AM
$5 billion is chump change in Washington these days. Bush pisses away $5 billion in Iraq every week.

Stop behaving like stereotypical Republicans with this "The poor will always be with us, so what's the use of trying to help them?" shit.

Raising the standard of living in poor countries is not only the Christian thing to do, it also is to our benefit to not have poor desperate countries that might turn to radical Islamofascism as a solution.

stephanie
03-16-2007, 11:57 AM
First ya all tell us, we should keep our noses out of other countries..(Iraq)

Then ya all tell us, were suppose to take care of the WHOLE WORLD..

I'm sooooooo confused...

:uhoh:

Hobbit
03-16-2007, 11:58 AM
$5 billion is chump change in Washington these days. Bush pisses away $5 billion in Iraq every week.

Stop behaving like stereotypical Republicans with this "The poor will always be with us, so what's the use of trying to help them?" shit.

Raising the standard of living in poor countries is not only the Christian thing to do, it also is to our benefit to not have poor desperate countries that might turn to radical Islamofascism as a solution.

Not through tax money. Handouts discourage prosperity, which is the best way to raise the standard of living of the poor. In fact, our billions upon billions of dollars in foreign aid every year have not led to more developed countries, but have instead led to the formation of government panels in other countries designed to determine how to get the most American aid for their country.

GW in Ohio
03-16-2007, 12:20 PM
First ya all tell us, we should keep our noses out of other countries..(Iraq)

Then ya all tell us, were suppose to take care of the WHOLE WORLD..

I'm sooooooo confused...

:uhoh:

steph: We shouldn't invade other countries. (It's not considered polite in international circles.) But we should try to intervene economically whenever possible. Raising the standard of living around the world means fewer poor, desperate nations who might turn to things like terrorism.

stephanie
03-16-2007, 01:31 PM
steph: We shouldn't invade other countries. (It's not considered polite in international circles.) But we should try to intervene economically whenever possible. Raising the standard of living around the world means fewer poor, desperate nations who might turn to things like terrorism.

Yeah...It's sure helped us in Middle East..:poke:

GW in Ohio
03-16-2007, 01:48 PM
Yeah...It's sure helped us in Middle East..:poke:

You're referring to our.......[ahem]....intervention in Iraq?

Yes, that's done wonders to win us friends and influence people.

All the major terrorist groups have reported dramatic upswings in their recruiting. The more urbane among them have sent thank-you notes to the White House.

stephanie
03-16-2007, 01:55 PM
You're referring to our.......[ahem]....intervention in Iraq?

Yes, that's done wonders to win us friends and influence people.

All the major terrorist groups have reported dramatic upswings in their recruiting. The more urbane among them have sent thank-you notes to the White House.

I am not talking about Iraq...

Your comment.......And all the major terrorist GROUPS have reported...

good grief..:poke:

-Cp
03-16-2007, 02:10 PM
I think it's funny how libs always thing you'll be able to "Fix" poverty by throwing money at it..

The reason most ppl are poor - regardless of the country they live in - is a psychological issue not a money issue...

They're poor because they're too lazy to get off their asses and do something... enablers like libs help keep them there by offering even more hand-outs...

Dilloduck
03-16-2007, 02:29 PM
I think it's funny how libs always thing you'll be able to "Fix" poverty by throwing money at it..

The reason most ppl are poor - regardless of the country they live in - is a psychological issue not a money issue...

They're poor because they're too lazy to get off their asses and do something... enablers like libs help keep them there by offering even more hand-outs...

If heard people in Africa BEGGING countries to stop pouring money into it because the dictators and warlord just use it to buy weapons.

GW in Ohio
03-16-2007, 02:30 PM
I think it's funny how libs always thing you'll be able to "Fix" poverty by throwing money at it..

The reason most ppl are poor - regardless of the country they live in - is a psychological issue not a money issue...

They're poor because they're too lazy to get off their asses and do something... enablers like libs help keep them there by offering even more hand-outs...

Thank you for articulating the basic conservative position toward the poor:

Fuck 'em.



:salute: :dance: :salute:

stephanie
03-16-2007, 02:33 PM
Thank you for articulating the basic conservative position toward the poor:

Fuck 'em.



:salute: :dance: :salute:

Could you be any more dramatic..:coffee:

Dilloduck
03-16-2007, 02:37 PM
Thank you for articulating the basic conservative position toward the poor:

Fuck 'em.



:salute: :dance: :salute:

Conservatives do more for the poor------Democrats just talk about it.

GW in Ohio
03-16-2007, 02:57 PM
"They're poor because they're too lazy to get off their asses and do something... enablers like libs help keep them there by offering even more hand-outs..."

And some people say you conservatives are not compassionate.......

:lol: :cheers2: :lol:

stephanie
03-16-2007, 03:01 PM
"They're poor because they're too lazy to get off their asses and do something... enablers like libs help keep them there by offering even more hand-outs..."

And some people say you conservatives are not compassionate.......

:lol: :cheers2: :lol:

Sometimes the truth hurts......:poke:

Hobbit
03-16-2007, 03:08 PM
I wouldn't say it's the African people so much as it is the African leadership. The dictators are kicking back and expanding their empires with cheap weapons bought with foreign aid while the majority of the people have no electricity. To make matters worse, global warming activists insist that the Africans can only get electricity through expensive, inefficient methods, because they have low emmissions, despite the fact that Africa has ready access to such things as oil and coal. They're also not allowed to fight diseases in the traditional, chemical way. Mosquito nets are poor replacements for a dose of DDT, but that's what they have to use, so malaria still runs rampant. Radical Islam is also holding the country down, spreading its virus across the continent through force with Saudi funding. There are many factors contributing to African poverty, but I'd say laziness is at the bottom.

avatar4321
03-16-2007, 04:20 PM
I think it's funny how libs always thing you'll be able to "Fix" poverty by throwing money at it..

The reason most ppl are poor - regardless of the country they live in - is a psychological issue not a money issue...

They're poor because they're too lazy to get off their asses and do something... enablers like libs help keep them there by offering even more hand-outs...

I disagree with one aspect. There are psychological issues much of the time. But then there are also problems with liberals overregulating people so much that they cant.

Gaffer
03-16-2007, 09:04 PM
I wouldn't say it's the African people so much as it is the African leadership. The dictators are kicking back and expanding their empires with cheap weapons bought with foreign aid while the majority of the people have no electricity. To make matters worse, global warming activists insist that the Africans can only get electricity through expensive, inefficient methods, because they have low emmissions, despite the fact that Africa has ready access to such things as oil and coal. They're also not allowed to fight diseases in the traditional, chemical way. Mosquito nets are poor replacements for a dose of DDT, but that's what they have to use, so malaria still runs rampant. Radical Islam is also holding the country down, spreading its virus across the continent through force with Saudi funding. There are many factors contributing to African poverty, but I'd say laziness is at the bottom.

Couldn't rep you for this. It's what I was going to say too.