The NYT Just Can't Seem To Stop Themselves

[Kathianne]

Another hit piece out tomorrow:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Besides the headline, there's not much there, there. On the other hand, it comes to mind, why aren't they looking in Chicago at all for Obama's past? They would just need to follow up on what already appeared in the major locals and some of the neighborhood papers about the 'community organizing', Wright, Meeks, Ayers, Rezko, etc.

[Joe Steel]

This is stunning. The New York Times has examined Miss Wasilla's political history. What they found should shock even Republicons.

Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html)

She thinks government is a make-work project for her family and friends.

[Kathianne]

This is stunning. The New York Times has examined Miss Wasilla's political history. What they found should shock even Republicons.

Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html)

She thinks government is a make-work project for her family and friends.

Dupe post:

http://debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=17722

Merged

[Joe Steel]

Another hit piece out tomorrow:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Besides the headline, there's not much there, there. On the other hand, it comes to mind, why aren't they looking in Chicago at all for Obama's past? They would just need to follow up on what already appeared in the major locals and some of the neighborhood papers about the 'community organizing', Wright, Meeks, Ayers, Rezko, etc.

Not much there?

There's enough there to frighten the socks off anyone who has even the slightest hope for self-government. Ms. Wasilla isn't just a another politician. She's a corrupting influence which could destroy government and take America with it as it goes.

[Kathianne]

Not much there?

There's enough there to frighten the socks off anyone who has even the slightest hope for self-government. Ms. Wasilla isn't just a another politician. She's a corrupting influence which could destroy government and take America with it as it goes.

LOL! Not one new thing there Joe, same old stuff. It's a hit piece and the public is sick of those, haven't you noticed?

BTW, ever read NY or Chicago political news? Even if true, Palin doesn't come close to being a corrupting influence that could destroy government, far from it.

[Joe Steel]

LOL! Not one new thing there Joe, same old stuff. It's a hit piece and the public is sick of those, haven't you noticed?

BTW, ever read NY or Chicago political news? Even if true, Palin doesn't come close to being a corrupting influence that could destroy government, far from it.

A politician who looks no farther than personal acquaintances for staff members is a danger to the health of any organization. Add emotional disturbances in the chief executive officer and you've got a real problem.

And the use of personal email accounts seems, at a minimum, contrary to the spirit of open government if not the letter of the law.

[Kathianne]

A politician who looks no farther than personal acquaintances for staff members is a danger to the health of any organization. Add emotional disturbances in the chief executive officer and you've got a real problem.

And a US Senator, whose wife suddenly gets a big pay raise:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/09/hospital_offici.html


Hospital officials say Obama's wife deserved big raise

Officials at the University of Chicago Hospitals say a promotion and large pay increase given to Sen. Barack Obama's wife shortly after the Democrat was elected to Congress were well-deserved boosts for an executive who is "worth her weight in gold." The Chicago Tribune has the story...

She certainly is:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080826/pl_mcclatchy/3028337


...In 2006, Sen. Obama sought, but didn't get, a $1 million earmark for the medical center. Aides and university officials said at the time that Michelle Obama had nothing to do with the request, and that her husband was merely trying to help a constituent like many others.

Obama, however, later said that he should have asked another senator to request the earmark for his wife's workplace. "This is something that slipped through our cracks, through our screening system," he said.

Michelle Obama also was named to the board of TreeHouse Foods , which makes specialty foods and whose biggest customer is Wal-Mart . Her compensation for that totaled $101,083 in 2006, according to the Chicago Tribune . That brought her earnings in 2006 to a total of $374,701...

Not even looking at Rezko & Co.

[Joe Steel]

And a US Senator, whose wife suddenly gets a big pay raise:



What's you point?

Michelle Obama isn't on Barack Obama's staff, is she?

Is she in government in any capacity?


Not even looking at Rezko & Co.

Or Rafaelo Fiorelli, the Italian con-man McCain and Rick Davis, McCain's lobbyist campaign manager, seem to like so much.

[Kathianne]

What's you point?

Michelle Obama isn't on Barack Obama's staff, is she?

Is she in government in any capacity?



Or Rafaelo Fiorelli, the Italian con-man McCain and Rick Davis, McCain's lobbyist campaign manager, seem to like so much.

Using influence, even attempting to seemed to be your complaint. Alas, I guess you mean for those you don't care for. Poor, bitter, JS.

[Joe Steel]

Using influence, even attempting to seemed to be your complaint. Alas, I guess you mean for those you don't care for. Poor, bitter, JS.

Did you read the article?

Miss Wasilla puts her friends into government and fires employees she doesn't like or who insist on doing their jobs in ways she doesn't like.

[Kathianne]

Did you read the article?

Miss Wasilla puts her friends into government and fires employees she doesn't like or who insist on doing their jobs in ways she doesn't like.

Joe, I read it, I posted the article before you, remember? Difference is, I understood what I read and have been reading for over 3 weeks. It is a hit piece. There is nothing new there.

[Joe Steel]

Joe, I read it, I posted the article before you, remember? Difference is, I understood what I read and have been reading for over 3 weeks. It is a hit piece. There is nothing new there.

Obviously, you didn't understand it.

It's an indictment of a dangerously self-serving, petty tyrant.

[Kathianne]

Obviously, you didn't understand it.

It's an indictment of a dangerously self-serving, petty tyrant.

Joe, all your posts and foot stomping will not make you win these arguments. You need to bring more than hope and pig headedness.

[Kathianne]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/13/AR2008091302596_pf.html


As Mayor of Wasilla, Palin Cut Own Duties, Left Trail of Bad Blood

By Alec MacGillis
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 14, 2008; A01

WASILLA, Alaska -- On Sept. 24, 2001, Mayor Sarah Palin and the City Council held their first meeting after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The council condemned the attacks and approved a $5,000 gift to a disaster relief fund. Palin said she would try to obtain materials from both attack sites to include in the town's "Honor Garden."

And then the council and mayor returned to their normal business: approving funds to upgrade the public well, issuing a restaurant permit and taking up a measure forbidding residents from operating bed-and-breakfasts in their homes. After a lively debate, the bed-and-breakfast measure lost, 4 to 1...

Same crap as NYTimes, though hard to believe, even more petty. Gee, think politicians have enemies? :laugh2:

[Joe Steel]

Joe, all your posts and foot stomping will not make you win these arguments. You need to bring more than hope and pig headedness.

I've deluged the forum with evidence. It has convicted Miss Wasilla beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Kathianne]

I've deluged the forum with evidence. It has convicted Miss Wasilla beyond a reasonable doubt.

Repeating the gossip from enemies of Palin on such a myriad of topics, is just another example of why the MSM has experience such a drop in both credibility and circulation. That one-sided gossip is what you are bringing to the game, saying it's 'beyond a reasonable doubt.' The doubt came years ago and this season appears to possibly be the final one for the print media at least. The bias is so clear that even some writers are beginning to warn of the hubris.

[Gaffer]

I've deluged the forum with evidence. It has convicted Miss Wasilla beyond a reasonable doubt.

You have proved nothing and deluged the forum with garbage and tripe.

I am with Kath on calling for the msm to investigate obamanation. He has the shadiest past since bill clinton with more coming out all the time. Real news media would have dug into this years ago and he would not be where he is.

The media has gone beyond liberal, they are communist propaganda tools.

[Kathianne]

The people are not only seeing the bias, they are reacting to it. Obama should be taking on the media, on that issue alone he might win:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11912.html




Poll: Half of U.S. says press pro-Obama
By: Alexander Burns
July 21, 2008 05:48 PM EST

Half of Americans think the press is trying to help Sen. Barack Obama win the presidential election, according to a new poll by Rasmussen Reports.

In an automated survey of 1000 likely voters, Rasmussen found that 49 percent of respondents believed reporters would favor Obama in their coverage this fall, compared with just 14 percent who expected them to boost Sen. John McCain. The number of Americans who see pro-Obama bias in the press has increased by five percent in the last month.

According to Rasmussen’s numbers, less than a quarter of voters – 24 percent – now trust the press to report on the election without bias.

“People are looking at reporters the way reporters want us to look at Wikipedia,” said Rasmussen Reports CEO Scott Rasmussen. “It’s useful information, but you’ve got to check the source.”

...Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg Public Policy Center, suggested a different source for the public’s concerns about bias: the press itself.

“As the press covers reports of disparities in amount[s] of coverage,” Jamieson said, “the belief, often reinforced in conservative media, that the press are biased against the Republican should increase.”

Jamieson pointed to a study released last week by the Tyndall Report, a media-monitoring group, that showed Obama vastly outstripping McCain in press coverage, as the kind of report that would “magnify this perception of bias among non-Obama supporters.”
See Also

* McCain is odd-man out on 'time horizon'
* News in hot spots appears to aid Obama
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Among the largest group of non-Obama supporters – Republicans – fears of slanted coverage did run especially high, with 78 percent of respondents saying the media would attempt to assist Obama’s bid. A mere 21 percent of Democrats suspected similar bias in favor of McCain.

Rasmussen said he was unsurprised that Republicans suspected pro-Obama leanings among reporters, as the finding was consistent with his firm’s previous polling on media bias. If anything, Rasmussen said, he was surprised that there weren’t more respondents alleging that the media supported McCain.

“There’s been a netroots push to say the media’s biased in the other direction,” Rasmussen explained. According to this poll, any such online effort has not shifted public opinion more broadly.
...

[Joe Steel]

Repeating the gossip from enemies of Palin on such a myriad of topics, is just another example of why the MSM has experience such a drop in both credibility and circulation. That one-sided gossip is what you are bringing to the game, saying it's 'beyond a reasonable doubt.' The doubt came years ago and this season appears to possibly be the final one for the print media at least. The bias is so clear that even some writers are beginning to warn of the hubris.

It's documented fact. Dismissing it as "gossip" won't change the truth.

You can put lipstick on pig but it's still a pig.

[Kathianne]

It's documented fact. Dismissing it as "gossip" won't change the truth.

You can put lipstick on pig but it's still a pig.

what has she been convicted of?

[stephanie]

You can put lipstick on pig but it's still a pig.

you and your Democrat party should know all about lipsticks and pigs..

[Gaffer]

you and your Democrat party should know all about lipsticks and pigs..

A communist disguised as a democrat is still a communist.

[stephanie]

A communist disguised as a democrat is still a communist.

Exactly..
The Democrat party of old is no more.
They have been taken over by Socialist and Communist.

[PostmodernProphet]

what has she been convicted of?

her principals.....

[Joe Steel]

what has she been convicted of?

Lies, corruption, abuse of office.

[Kathianne]

Lies, corruption, abuse of office.

Convicted? :laugh2:

[Joe Steel]

Convicted?

Beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Kathianne]

Beyond a reasonable doubt.

Joe, you are a piece of work. :laugh2: Are you paid by the post?

[stephanie]

Don't forget, in the liberal and Democrat world..you are guilty until proven innocent..that is until it is one of their own...

[midcan5]

Both Palin and McCain are so mediocre you'd think the republicans would be embarrassed. McCain was the last man standing in bunch of mediocrity. Huckabee or Romney were better choices, but one had a heart and the other was Mormon so that ruins your chances in a party of far right wingnuts. Amazing that republicans can bind greed and church into a coalition of tools, truly a study in ideology at its worst.



A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

[stephanie]

Both Palin and McCain are so mediocre you'd think the republicans would be embarrassed. McCain was the last man standing in bunch of mediocrity. Huckabee or Romney were better choices, but one had a heart and the other was Mormon so that ruins your chances in a party of far right wingnuts. Amazing that republicans can bind greed and church into a coalition of tools, truly a study in ideology at its worst.



A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

Jon Cary and Al Bore....:laugh2::cow: