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Psychoblues
07-14-2008, 04:52 PM
Hmmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,I wonder what they're still trying to hide about this case?

"Report Sought Answers on Who Knew About Friendly Fire Incident

White House officials interviewed as part of an investigation into the misleading information given to the public and the Tillman family in the weeks after the death of Corporal Pat Tillman have said they do not recall when they first learned that Tillman was killed as a result of friendly fire, according to a proposed report released today by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

The committee set out to determine when top officials at the White House and Defense Department learned that Tillman had been killed in a friendly fire incident. Tillman, a former NFL star and perhaps the most famous soldier to die in Afghanistan, was killed on April 22, 2004. His death was widely covered by the media and Tillman was posthumously awarded a Silver Star just days after his death.

It was not until over a month later, on May 29, 2004, that the public and Tillman's family were officially informed that his death was very likely due to friendly fire.

The committee says that in their quest to find out when officials first knew about the possibility that Tillman's death was not due to enemy fire, they were "frustrated by a near universal lack of recall," according to the report.

The committee interviewed several senior White House officials including former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, communications director Dan Bartlett, former Press Secretary Scott McClellan, and chief speech writer Michael Gerson.............."

More: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5371986&page=1


As usual, I smell an even bigger coverup than we already know about!!!!!!!! But, this is not surprising from a conservative administration, is it? Going all the way back to tricky dicky, R. Reagan (Iran/Contra), etc. the modem operandi is always "I don't know". As was the case in Watergate we'll have to depend on honest and competent journalism to get to the real truth of what happened.

April15
07-14-2008, 06:29 PM
In short Raygun policy is still in use today. " I don't remember sir."

Psychoblues
07-14-2008, 09:59 PM
You don't know who tricky dicky is, do you, april?



In short Raygun policy is still in use today. " I don't remember sir."

That's OK. There have been times that I've wished that I didn't either. I voted for the crook twice.

actsnoblemartin
07-14-2008, 10:02 PM
:cheers2:


You don't know who tricky dicky is, do you, april?


that would be richard nixson for 100 alex

:laugh2:




That's OK. There have been times that I've wished that I didn't either. I voted for the crook twice.

Psychoblues
07-14-2008, 10:05 PM
I think it is spelled "Nixon", marteen.



:cheers2:

Why do you drink so much when you're posting?

actsnoblemartin
07-14-2008, 10:08 PM
cause you serve me such good stuff barkeep :coffee:, that i forget how to spell doncha know :laugh2:


I think it is spelled "Nixon", marteen.




Why do you drink so much when you're posting?

Psychoblues
07-14-2008, 10:19 PM
Belly up, marteen!!!!!!!!!!!!



cause you serve me such good stuff barkeep :coffee:, that i forget how to spell doncha know :laugh2:

We've got H20 runnin' out our ears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

actsnoblemartin
07-14-2008, 10:31 PM
:)


Belly up, marteen!!!!!!!!!!!!

works for me, ive lost 12 pounds in 3 weeks, doing it the right way :)

soon, ill only be losing 1-2 pounds a week

but u cant always lose hugs sums either



We've got H20 runnin' out our ears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Psychoblues
07-14-2008, 10:48 PM
Marteen. You gotta quit posting within my post, partner. Somebody might think I wrote that "hugs sums" remark and I want to make clear that it is purely your own bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love ya like a brother, marteen, but IT ain't you, Pussycat. So quit pretending, OK?

:cheers2::laugh2::salute::cheers2:

actsnoblemartin
07-14-2008, 11:01 PM
My bullshit is made of pure gold brother :laugh2:


Marteen. You gotta quit posting within my post, partner. Somebody might think I wrote that "hugs sums" remark and I want to make clear that it is purely your own bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love ya like a brother, marteen, but IT ain't you, Pussycat. So quit pretending, OK?

:cheers2::laugh2::salute::cheers2:

actsnoblemartin
07-14-2008, 11:02 PM
blah


Marteen. You gotta quit posting within my post, partner. Somebody might think I wrote that "hugs sums" remark and I want to make clear that it is purely your own bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!

testing


I love ya like a brother, marteen, but IT ain't you, Pussycat. So quit pretending, OK?

123

:cheers2::laugh2::salute::cheers2:

Psychoblues
07-14-2008, 11:27 PM
You didn't adress it so I assume you didn't get it, marteen.



blah

If you read back through the thread you'll find it but even then I'm not so certain you'll actually understand it. I won't make your problem my own, Pussycat.

manu1959
07-14-2008, 11:43 PM
how many of these occured in the civil war....war of 1812.....wwi....wwii....korea.....

why is this one special....

manu1959
07-14-2008, 11:44 PM
You didn't adress it so I assume you didn't get it, marteen.
If you read back through the thread you'll find it but even then I'm not so certain you'll actually understand it. I won't make your problem my own, Pussycat.

he deffends you and tries to be your friend and you diss him.....tragic....

actsnoblemartin
07-14-2008, 11:45 PM
im really lost here. can you just tell me your point, cause i cant tell if your kidding or insulting here, and id rather give u the benefit of the doubt and let you explain to me what you meant, and let me have another try at that question

Tonight is getting too annoying


You didn't adress it so I assume you didn't get it, marteen.




If you read back through the thread you'll find it but even then I'm not so certain you'll actually understand it. I won't make your problem my own, Pussycat.

Psychoblues
07-14-2008, 11:59 PM
Marteen, you posted within my post and didn't include anything to indicate your overwriting. Go back to your post here, #8 I think, and reread it. I think you'll catch it. If you continue to have a prob I'll give additional instruction, my friend.




im really lost here. can you just tell me your point, cause i cant tell if your kidding or insulting here, and id rather give u the benefit of the doubt and let you explain to me what you meant, and let me have another try at that question

Tonight is getting too annoying

I meant nothing arbitrary or disconcerting in my remarks, marteen.

actsnoblemartin
07-15-2008, 12:02 AM
Thank you my dear friend, i always give you the benefit of the doubt, cause your kind to me :)


Marteen, you posted within my post and didn't include anything to indicate your overwriting. Go back to your post here, #8 I think, and reread it. I think you'll catch it. If you continue to have a prob I'll give additional instruction, my friend.





I meant nothing arbitrary or disconcerting in my remarks, marteen.

Psychoblues
07-15-2008, 12:04 AM
You are very welcome, marteen my friend.



Thank you my dear friend, i always give you the benefit of the doubt, cause your kind to me :)

Some of these jerks just love to see you chasing your tail, don't cha know?

emmett
07-15-2008, 12:59 PM
Martin, you really need to get a life son. Sitting around in the middle of the day having a conversation with David about nothing is not the way I want you to live.

We have got to find you a girlfriend.

April15
07-15-2008, 01:54 PM
Don't change dicks in the middle of a screw
Vote Nixon in 72.

theHawk
07-15-2008, 02:16 PM
As usual, I smell an even bigger coverup than we already know about!!!!!!!! But, this is not surprising from a conservative administration, is it? Going all the way back to tricky dicky, R. Reagan (Iran/Contra), etc. the modem operandi is always "I don't know". As was the case in Watergate we'll have to depend on honest and competent journalism to get to the real truth of what happened.

Tillman was killed by friendly fire, period. Is the White House somehow responisble for that particular incident? Are they trying to cover up when they learned it could of been friendly fire? Are they not supposed to just let the Army conduct their investigation? Or are they supposed to micro-manage every situation and investigation?

gabosaurus
07-15-2008, 04:57 PM
We should let the Army investigate something that they tried to cover up earlier?

theHawk
07-15-2008, 08:46 PM
We should let the Army investigate something that they tried to cover up earlier?

Yes, the Army is perfectly capable of policing its own. Maybe a few officers tried to hide things. The JAG or whatever the Army equivlant is, its meant to find out any wrong doing within the Army.

gabosaurus
07-16-2008, 12:12 AM
Whenever the military hierarchy does an "investigation" of itself, it always comes out the same: Bullshit in, bullshit out.

theHawk
07-16-2008, 08:10 AM
Whenever the military hierarchy does an "investigation" of itself, it always comes out the same: Bullshit in, bullshit out.

You do realize that the Abu Ghraib story was first broke by the Army doing its own investigation right?

Psychoblues
07-16-2008, 09:08 PM
That's not true, hawk. The Washington Times sat on that story for months waiting for the Army tro break it so they could contribute. The Army kept dragging their feet so the Washington Times sold it to the Washington Post and they broke it. The army, as usual, didn't know how to handle the bad news.



You do realize that the Abu Ghraib story was first broke by the Army doing its own investigation right?