Report: Judiciary may hold hearings on impeachment

[red states rule]

I do hope the ems are stupid wnough to do this. If the Republicans can;t win this election, then maybe the Dems will lose it for them

Report: Judiciary may hold hearings on impeachment

After insisting for nearly two years that impeachment was strictly "off the table," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi may be changing her tune.

The Democratic leader said Thursday that the House Judiciary Committee could be holding hearings on impeachment articles introduced by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) sometime in the near future. After introducing 35 articles of impeachment against President Bush last month, Kucinich is planning to introduce another single article Thursday, accusing the president of misleading the country into war with Iraq.

Politico reports Kucinich's efforts may be paying off:

Pelosi has said previously that impeachment "was off the table," so her comments this morning were surprising, and clearly signaled a new willingness to entertain the idea of ousting Bush, although no one in the Democratic leadership believes that is likely since the president has only six months left in this term.

"This is a Judiciary Committee matter, and I believe we will see some attention being paid to it by the Judiciary Committee," Pelosi told reporters. "Not necessarily taking up the articles of impeachment because that would have to be approved on the floor, but to have some hearings on the subject."

Pelosi added: "My expectation is that there will be some review of that in the committee."

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Report_Judiciary_may_hold_hearings_on_0710.html

[Psychoblues]

I'm with you, rsr. I hope they do it as well. It's about time someone started thinking about something serious on this board!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joe Steel]

I think Congress' low approval rating is getting to Pelosi. She's probably realized she could lose her position as Speaker if she doesn't allow impeachment to proceed. America hates Bush and Cheney and they're tired of seeing her protect them.

[Psychoblues]

I don't think Pelosi is heading up this call for impeachment, JS.




I think Congress' low approval rating is getting to Pelosi. She's probably realized she could lose her position as Speaker if she doesn't allow impeachment to proceed. America hates Bush and Cheney and they're tired of seeing her protect them.

Correct me if I am wrong?!?!!??!????!??!?!?!?!?!?!

[Joe Steel]

I don't think Pelosi is heading up this call for impeachment, JS.

Correct me if I am wrong?!?!!??!????!??!?!?!?!?!?!

She's not heading it but, as Speaker, she can allow it or block it. Up to now, she's opposed impeachment. Now she seems to be changing her mind. I think that's because she sees the widespread, seething hatred of Bush and Cheney for their shredding of the Constitution and war crimes and she doesn't want to appear to be opposing justice by protecting them from impeachment.

[5stringJeff]

And what exactly would Bush be impeached for?

[Psychoblues]

Just how many times must we post the articles of impeachment of gwb before you accept the truths as espoused in them, jeff?



And what exactly would Bush be impeached for?

The entire document is too large to post but you can find it all in the Dennis Kucinich web site. If need be I will post the link but surely you can find it as it has been posted numerous times and you continually ignore it. Your ignorance is really not my problem but I will help if you insist.

[Joe Steel]

And what exactly would Bush be impeached for?

Willfully failing to faithfully execute the office of President.

[Abbey Marie]

Willfully failing to faithfully execute the office of President.

:laugh2: Go for it.

[Gaffer]

Willfully failing to faithfully execute the office of President.

That's not a charge, that's an opinion.

[5stringJeff]

Willfully failing to faithfully execute the office of President.

I'm sure the same could be said by the political opponents of every President, going back to George Washington. Got any specifics there, high speed?

[Joe Steel]

That's not a charge, that's an opinion.

The opinion of the prosecutor is the basis of any prosecution.

[5stringJeff]

The opinion of the prosecutor is the basis of any prosecution.

The opinion of the prosecutor must be supported by facts in order to have any standing.

[Abbey Marie]

The opinion of the prosecutor is the basis of any prosecution.

Yeah, I suppose they could try to Nifong the President.

[Little-Acorn]

...the articles of impeachment of gwb..... the truths as espoused in them.....
:lol: :lol: :lame2: :lame2: :lol: :lol:

When the kook left starts believing its own fables this sincerely, no other reply is possible......:laugh2:

[avatar4321]

The opinion of the prosecutor is the basis of any prosecution.

I hope beyond all hope that you never get into a position where you can prosecute anyone for a crime. The opinion of the prosecutor is NOT the basis of any prosecution. The law is. Anyone who forgets that is corrupt and shouldnt be anywhere near positions of power. They should be the ones sitting at the defense table.

[Joe Steel]

I'm sure the same could be said by the political opponents of every President, going back to George Washington. Got any specifics there, high speed?

Sure do, low watt.

Lies. Lies and more lies.

Bush lies when the truth if faster, easier and cheaper.

His presidency is nothing but lies.

Lying to the American People, especially to start a war, is not faithful execution of the office of president.

[avatar4321]

I think Congress' low approval rating is getting to Pelosi. She's probably realized she could lose her position as Speaker if she doesn't allow impeachment to proceed. America hates Bush and Cheney and they're tired of seeing her protect them.

Do you honestly think wasting time on impeachment while gas prices are over $4 per gallon and financial institutions are failing is really going to get Congressional opinion ratings up?

[avatar4321]

Sure do, low watt.

Lies. Lies and more lies.

Bush lies when the truth if faster, easier and cheaper.

His presidency is nothing but lies.

Lying to the American People, especially to start a war, is not faithful execution of the office of president.

I know you guys love that mantra. But you know, one of these decades you really might want to support it.

[Joe Steel]

I hope beyond all hope that you never get into a position where you can prosecute anyone for a crime. The opinion of the prosecutor is NOT the basis of any prosecution. The law is. Anyone who forgets that is corrupt and shouldnt be anywhere near positions of power. They should be the ones sitting at the defense table.

Nonsense.

Based on an examination of the evidence, the prosecutor may believe a law has been violated and may place the issue before a jury. The jury may or may not agree with the prosecutor's opinion.

[Gaffer]

Sure do, low watt.

Lies. Lies and more lies.

Bush lies when the truth if faster, easier and cheaper.

His presidency is nothing but lies.

Lying to the American People, especially to start a war, is not faithful execution of the office of president.

Again, its your opinion. No facts or evidence.

[Joe Steel]

Again, its your opinion. No facts or evidence.

Millions and millions of words have been written in condemnation of Bush's abuse of his office.

You've ignored every one of them.

Why should I try to light the way for someone who keeps his eyes tightly shut?

[Gaffer]

Millions and millions of words have been written in condemnation of Bush's abuse of his office.

You've ignored every one of them.

Why should I try to light the way for someone who keeps his eyes tightly shut?

Millions of words of condemnation and not a bit of evidence presented. My eyes are not shut, they are tired of reading the same bullshit over and over.

Present facts and evidence, not "I HATE BUSH". We already know that.

[Joe Steel]

Millions of words of condemnation and not a bit of evidence presented. My eyes are not shut, they are tired of reading the same bullshit over and over.

Present facts and evidence, not "I HATE BUSH". We already know that.

OK.


Resolved, that President George W. Bush be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:

Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against President George W. Bush for high crimes and misdemeanors.

In his conduct while President of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has committed the following abuses of power.

1. Article I - Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq.

2. Article II - Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression.

3. Article III - Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War.

4. Article IV - Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States.

5. Article V - Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression.

6. Article VI - Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of HJRes114.

7. Article VII - Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.

8. Article VIII - Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter.

9. Article IX - Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor

10. Article X - Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes

11. Article XI - Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq

12. Article XII - Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation's Natural Resources

13. Article XIII - Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries

14. Article XIV - Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency

15. Article XV - Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq

16. Article XVI - Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors

17. Article XVII - Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives

18. Article XVIII - Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy

19. Article XIX - Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to 'Black Sites' Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture

20. Article XX - Imprisoning Children

21. Article XXI - Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government

22. Article XXII - Creating Secret Laws

23. Article XXIII - Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act

24. Article XXIV - Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment

25. Article XXV - Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens

26. Article XXVI - Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements

27. Article XXVII - Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to Comply

28. Article XXVIII - Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice

29. Article XXIX - Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965

30. Article XXX - Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare

31. Article XXXI - Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency

32. Article XXXII - Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change

33. Article XXXIII - Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911.

34. Article XXXIV - Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001

35. Article XXXV - Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders

Articles of Impeachment for President George W Bush (http://www.impeachbush.tv/progress/dk_aoi_bush/)

[avatar4321]

Nonsense.

Based on an examination of the evidence, the prosecutor may believe a law has been violated and may place the issue before a jury. The jury may or may not agree with the prosecutor's opinion.

A law has either been broken or it hasnt. The opinion of the prosecutor is irrelevant. And im freaking tired of corrupt DAs who seem to think that they are the ones who determine this rather than the law itself. I'm tired of corrupt cops who overcharge and refuse to actually follow the law.

This is corruption pure and simple.

[avatar4321]

OK.

You seem to still be confusing the difference between making accusations and proving them with facts.

No where in your post did you post a single fact.

[mundame]

OK.


Good list. I'd prefer a war crimes trial because it would scoop up more terrible administration miscreants, like Rumsfeld, but this isn't a serious effort, as I'm sure you all realize.

(Oh, come on -------------------- Dennis????)

It's just July of an election year, and as of August and September, it would be nice to have a juicy congressional recitation of all ol' Bush's manifold faults and misdeeds.

Business as usual.

[Joe Steel]

Good list. I'd prefer a war crimes trial because it would scoop up more terrible administration miscreants, like Rumsfeld, but this isn't a serious effort, as I'm sure you all realize.

(Oh, come on -------------------- Dennis????)

It's just July of an election year, and as of August and September, it would be nice to have a juicy congressional recitation of all ol' Bush's manifold faults and misdeeds.

Business as usual.

Of course, indictment, prosecution, conviction and execution is the ideal but we have to take what we can get.

[Joe Steel]

A law has either been broken or it hasnt. The opinion of the prosecutor is irrelevant. And im freaking tired of corrupt DAs who seem to think that they are the ones who determine this rather than the law itself. I'm tired of corrupt cops who overcharge and refuse to actually follow the law.

This is corruption pure and simple.

Whom do you think decides the facts warrant a prosecution?

Do you think a voice from the clouds tells the prosecutor?

[Little-Acorn]

it would be nice to have a juicy congressional recitation of all ol' Bush's manifold faults and misdeeds.

I actually agree. It would be useful to reveal before the entire country, top Democrats wallowing in their hatred for Republicans and screeching out their usual empty rhetoric, with the complete lack of relevant factual basis that has always characterized their tired, debunked lies, this time in the full glare of public spotlights. The American public would finally get a chance to see where all the solemn pronouncements actually originate, and how venal, hate-filled, and small the people are who keep reciting them. It would hasten the Democrats' exit from the U.S. political landscape, into the dustbin of history to join other failed socialists of their ilk.


Business as usual.
Yes. But in public, this time. The sooner the better.

[red states rule]

I'm with you, rsr. I hope they do it as well. It's about time someone started thinking about something serious on this board!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope the Dems watse time and show the voters what their priorities are. There is still plenty of time for Dems to blow their chances in November

[red states rule]

I think Congress' low approval rating is getting to Pelosi. She's probably realized she could lose her position as Speaker if she doesn't allow impeachment to proceed. America hates Bush and Cheney and they're tired of seeing her protect them.

Yep, forget about dealing with gas prices, fixing SS and Medicare, cutting spending, dealing with Iran - go for impeachment

[red states rule]

And what exactly would Bush be impeached for?

How about beating Dems in 2 elections? To Dems, that is an unforgivable sin

[mundame]

Of course, indictment, prosecution, conviction and execution is the ideal but we have to take what we can get.


Well said. http://wade.hu/smiley/kategoriak/%E1llatok/animal-smiley-016.gif

[red states rule]

Well said. http://wade.hu/smiley/kategoriak/%E1llatok/animal-smiley-016.gif

Get over your rabid hate guys. Pres Bush will be your President until 1/20/2009

Get over it, take your meds, and see your shrink when needed

[avatar4321]

Whom do you think decides the facts warrant a prosecution?

Do you think a voice from the clouds tells the prosecutor?

The police officer who originally arrests the person decides whether there are facts enough. And its not based on his opinion. Either the facts support prosecution or they don't. There is opinion involved. Justice is blind.

[red states rule]

The bottom line is, the little space cadet, Dennis Kucinich is a nut job. He is a left wing kook, and this impeachment stunt will go nowhere. He is trying to appease the rabid kook left who is consumed with hate

[Joe Steel]

The police officer who originally arrests the person decides whether there are facts enough. And its not based on his opinion. Either the facts support prosecution or they don't. There is opinion involved. Justice is blind.

That's absurd.

Prosecutors evaluate evidence and develop an opinion of its probative value. Based on their opinion, they prosecute or not.

[Abbey Marie]

Of course, indictment, prosecution, conviction and execution is the ideal but we have to take what we can get.

Smells Like Dem Spirit. :laugh2:

[red states rule]

Smells Like Dem Spirit. :laugh2:

Sounds more like a sermon from our resident preacher

[mundame]

Dennis Kucinich is a nut job. He is a left wing kook, and this impeachment stunt will go nowhere.


He's a nut, but he's not THAT much of a nut ---- they are willing to use him, and he's willing to be used.

Nancy Pelosi SAID there would be hearings, after all ---- anyone think this is strange timing?

Of course not.



They'll have some nice little hearings about how awful everything has been, to tar Bush and feather McCain, right before the election.

[red states rule]

He's a nut, but he's not THAT much of a nut ---- they are willing to use him, and he's willing to be used.

Nancy Pelosi SAID there would be hearings, after all ---- anyone think this is strange timing?

Of course not.



They'll have some nice little hearings about how awful everything has been, to tar Bush and feather McCain, right before the election.

Dems have a history of using people then tossing them aside. Does the name Cindy "Crackpot" Sheehan ring a bell?