The Noahide Movement

[TheSage]

The Noahide Movement is a quickly growing phenomenon. It is theocratic in nature, and in my opinion should be avoided if at all possible.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noahide_Laws
According to rabbinic Judaism, as expressed in the Talmud, the Noahide Laws apply to all humanity through mankind's descent from one paternal ancestor who in Hebrew tradition is called Noah (the head of the only family to survive during The Flood). In Judaism, בני נח B'nei Noah (Hebrew, "Descendants of Noah", "Children of Noah") refers to all of mankind.[citation needed]

The Talmud also states: "Righteous people of all nations have a share in the world to come" (Sanhedrin 105a). Any non-Jew who lives according to these laws is regarded as one of "the righteous among the gentiles". Maimonides writes that this refers to those who have acquired knowledge of God and act in accordance with the Noahide laws out of obedience to Him. According to what scholars consider to be the most accurate texts of the Mishneh Torah, Maimonides continues on to say that anyone who upholds the Noahide laws only because they appear logical is not one of the "righteous among the nations," but rather he is one of the wise among them. The more prolific versions of the Mishneh Torah say of such a person: "..nor is he one of the wise among them."[citation needed]

According to the Biblical narrative, the Deluge covered the whole world killing every surface-dwelling creature except Noah, his family and the creatures of the ark. After the flood, God sealed a covenant with Noah with the following admonitions (Genesis 9):

Food: "Also, flesh with the life -the blood- in it do not eat." (9:4)
Murder: "I will also inquire about your blood, your life, from all animals, and from each human I will inquire about his brother's blood. Who sheds the blood of man, by man his blood will be shed, because in the image of God was man made."
The Talmud (tractate Sanhedrin 56a/b, quoting Tosefta Sanhedrin 9:4) states that the instruction to not eat "flesh with the life" was given to Noah, and that Adam and Eve had already received six other commandments. Adam and Eve were not enjoined from eating from a living animal since they were forbidden to eat any animal.[7] The remaining six are exegetically derived from a seemingly superfluous sentence in Genesis 2:16.

Judaism holds that gentiles (or goyim "non-Jews [literally 'Nations']") are not only not obligated to adhere to all the laws of the Torah (indeed, they are forbidden to fulfill some laws, such as the keeping of the Sabbath in the exact same manner as Israel[8]). Rabbinic Judaism and its modern-day descendants discourage proselytization. The Noahide Laws are regarded as the way through which non-Jews can have a direct and meaningful relationship with God or at least comply with the minimal requisites of civilization and of divine law.[citation needed]



I would suggest that any curious person do their own extensive research.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=the+noahide+movement&btnG=Google+Search

[TheSage]

THis is the noahide opinion of jesus, from an official noahide site.



http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm
Who Was Jesus?
The Bible gave a warning about a dangerous, false prophet who would arise to test our faith in G-d. In Deuteronomy 13, G-d describes this false prophet as a member of the Jewish people (v. 2, 7) who would tell true prophecies and would have the power of miracles. G-d Himself would give this false prophet the power to perform miracles and reveal prophecy, but the false prophet would try to seduce the people away from G-d's Law and towards strange gods unknown to Judaism. The purpose would be to test whether we are truly committed to living under the Law, or whether we will be dazzled and fall for the temptation to join a false path to salvation (v. 3-6, 7-8, 11). In this Biblical passage, G-d repeatedly commands the Jews to kill this false prophet, lest the evil spread and destroy many souls.




In Deuteronomy 17, this false prophet is also described as someone who would rebel against the authority of the judges of the Jewish people, and who should be put to death for his rebelliousness (v. 8-13, esp. v. 12). Who are the judges? The highest court in Israel was the Sanhedrin, which was established by Moses (Exodus 18:13-26; Numbers 11:16-29), and which lasted more than 15 centuries. The members of the Sanhedrin were the rabbis known as "Pharisees" (Pirushim, "those with the explanation"). G-d gave permanent authority to these judges to interpret the Law and G-d's Word, and it is a commandment to follow their decisions without turning even slightly to the right or the left (Deut. 17:11). But the false prophet would challenge the authority of the Sanhedrin, thus revealing himself to be an evil man.


Permanent authority.



In the book of the prophet Daniel, this false prophet is described as a king (the eleventh horn on a terrible beast) who would wage war against the Jews (the "holy ones"; see Deut. 14:2 on this term) and would change the Law including the calendar and the holidays (Daniel 7:8, 20-25). Elsewhere, this false prophet is described as a king who would disregard the G-d of his fathers, exalting himself as a god and giving honor to this new god-head (Daniel 11:36-39).

The man known today as "Jesus" fulfilled all these prophecies. He became a "king" (over the Christian church) who changed the original Law, doing away with the Hebrew calendar and the Biblical holidays (Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Sukkos the Festival of Tabernacles, Passover, etc.). He disregarded the one, infinite G-d of the Hebrew Bible in favor of a new "trinity" that included himself. And he repeatedly broke the Law by committing terrible sins, while openly challenging the G-d-given authority of the rabbis of the Sanhedrin.

Naturally, Jesus did sometimes pretend to respect the Law, but whenever he thought he could get away with it, he turned right around and broke that same Law. In Matthew 5:17-19, he declared that he came to fulfill the Law, and in Matthew 23:1-3 he defended the authority of the rabbis. But the rest of the time, he rebelled against the Law—thus showing that his occasional words of piety were meant only to hide his evil agenda. The following sins of Jesus are recorded in the "New Testament":

Jesus repudiated the laws of kosher food (Mark 7:18-19). [Compare this to the prophet Daniel's strict adherence to kashrus, in Daniel chapter 1.]
He repudiated the laws of honoring one's parents, and called on his followers to hate their parents; he also dishonored his own mother (Matthew 10:34-36; Matthew 12:46-50; Luke 14:26).
He violated the Sabbath by picking grain, and incited his disciples to do the same (Matthew 12:1-8; Mark 2:23-26).
4) He again violated the Sabbath by healing a man's arm, which was not a matter of saving a life, and he openly defied the rabbis in his total repudiation of the Sabbath (Matthew 12:9-13; Mark 3:1-5). [Compare this to G-d's view of violating the Sabbath, in Numbers 15:32-36, Nehemiah 10:30-32, and dozens of other places throughout the Bible.]
Jesus brazenly defied and disobeyed the rabbis of the Sanhedrin, repudiating their authority (This is recorded in many places throughout the New Testament, but look especially at Matthew 23:13-39 and John 8:44-45).
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":

He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
The false, rebellious message of Jesus has been thoroughly rejected by the vast majority of the Jewish people, as G-d commanded. Unfortunately, however, this same message has brought a terrible darkness upon the world; today, over 1.5 billion gentiles believe in Jesus. These lost souls mistakenly think they have found salvation in Jesus; tragically, they are in for a rude awakening. Truth and eternal life are found directly from G-d, through performing His Law. Any "mediator" only separates man from G-d:



down a little...



What is the true key to salvation? Those who return to the Law (the Seven Commandments for the Children of Noah, according to the eternal covenant made with Noah in Genesis 9) and who assist the Jewish people (Isaiah 60, 61, 66) will be saved and will participate in the miracles and revelations, including worshipping in the Third Temple, under the kingship of the Messiah. As described in many places, including Jeremiah 16:19-21 and Zechariah 8:20-23, all the old gentile religions of the world will disappear, and their followers will turn to the Jews for spiritual leadership. Until then, Christians are spiritually blinded, and cannot yet understand G-d's wisdom in the Bible.

[Evil]

Really, needed to tell all again?:uhoh:

[TheSage]

Really, needed to tell all again?:uhoh:
If you'll notice this is the only thread on the noahide movement explicitly. The forum was erased. Remember? duh.

[Evil]

If you'll notice this is the only thread on the noahide movement explicitly. The forum was erased. Remember? duh.

:lol:

Thing is who would of forgotten?

[TheSage]

three levels of noahide convert.




http://jesus-messiah.com/html/noahide.html
There Are Three Levels Of Noahide Converts

Level #1: Is the person or group who thinks they can keep the Law as a matter of choice. These believe that to keep the law by choice makes their keeping the law by *faith.* These reinterpret Paul's writings in such a manner that they have Paul saying that a person can keep the Law by faith as long as they also claim salvation by Jesus. They reinterpret Paul to say that if a person keeps the Law for salvation and does not believe in Jesus, the Law by itself can not save. These have the doctrine that it takes both Law and Jesus to save a person. These also teach and believe that Jesus saves them and then puts the Law in their heart. The New Covenant then is not New in the sense of a different or replacement one, but the old Covenant written in the heart. Thus, the word *New* means Old but new only because a person has a new heart as its sanctuary. These believe the Law is the New Covenant and the Gospel must convert the world to the Law or it is a false Gospel. These reject animal sacrifices and the Old Testament Priesthood but praise to the high heaven modern Rabbis who are nothing but Pharisees under a new identity. The Talmud is the Bible of these Rabbis?

Level #2: Is the person or group who believes that the Law Covenant was not ended at Calvary. They believe that both the Law and the Gospel are different in purpose. These believe the New Covenant adds Gentiles to the Law but Jews only need keep the Old Covenant they have no part in the New Covenant. They believe the two Covenants are in existence parallel at the same time. This is called Dual Covenant Theology. What this person believes, is that the Law is for Jews and the New Covenant is for Gentiles to make them converts to the concision, but won't use the word *concision* because it idenifies their actual religious philosophy.

These also believe that animal sacrifices maybe offered to Jesus by Jews and Gentiles if done by *faith* and *free-will* providing they are not offered for atonement or the remission of sins? They strongly demand that the New Covenant includes Law-keeping. These teach and believe that it was the plan of Jesus to bring all the world under the provisions of keeping the Law by and through the preaching of the Gospel of Grace. So Gentiles are by the Grace of God brought to Law-keeping through Jesus as the Messiah. Gentiles are then saved by grace but afterward they must keep the Law or they cannot be saved or continue to claim salvation. These believe the current Jews have all the revelation on the Scriptures and that Catholic and Protestant teachings against Law-keeping are antisemitic. This group looks for the Jews to accept Jesus as Messiah and if the Jews continue in Law-keeping by faith and or animal sacrifices, then they are saved none-the-less.

Level #3: This person or group flat out denies Jesus was the Messiah and claims that the whole world must be converted to the Seven Noahide Laws or they not only cannot be saved, they must be destroyed from the earth because they are worse than dogs who would deny the lofty and excellent life of Law-keeping. These believe the Pharisee Rabbis who are modern Talmudist are the only Ministers of God to the world and their words are the words of God. They teach no one can change the word or law of a Rabbi and a Gentile cannot tell or teach these Rabbis anything. The red heifer deal of the Rabbis saying they want to understand Christianity is all a falsehood. All they want is Christian money!

These Gentile converts to Noahidism wear all the Jewish paraphernalia in Synagogue worship including the males wearing a god-hat. These make several trips to Israel and never come home with a crown of thrones to testify of their aliyeh to Messiah Jesus (although they visit all the Jesus tourist sites to get more holy or improve their salvation experience), but they come back all boasting about that god-hat that gets them into Jewish holy places and the Synagogues. These come to love the wailing wall more than they do Calvary. These hate anyone who teaches that the New Testament is the New Covenant and that it replaced the Law.

Now that you are aware of the head-on-battle, the question is, will making this information help to save some innocent and tender heart from becoming an antichrist by conversion to the Seven Noahide Laws ? Will providing this background save someone from denying the full or a partial work of Calvary? We hope so.

[TheSage]

:lol:

Thing is who would of forgotten?





Thing is...THis is a public forum. There are new viewers here as well.

Either discuss the subject matter or get off my hump.

[Gaffer]

Don't want to discuss your subject. I want to change the subject and talk about something else like you do in the other threads.

I'm taking this thread to cuba.

[MtnBiker]

I'm taking this thread to cuba.

I've heard they make cigars.

[TheSage]

Don't want to discuss your subject. I want to change the subject and talk about something else like you do in the other threads.

I'm taking this thread to cuba.


Find a thread where I'm "hijacking" and I will re-explain to you the relevance of my comments. You probably just didn't see the connection. Deal? Otherwise, stow it.

[Gaffer]

I heard that too. maybe cindy shithand will pick up a few to bring back with her. She can then go visit slick willie and he'll show her how to use them.

[MtnBiker]

She can then go visit slick willie and he'll show her how to use them.

Whoa! that's a bad visual.

[Gaffer]

Whoa! that's a bad visual.

Yes it is. Just the suggestion of that is too much information.

Where's the puke icon when you need it?

[TheSage]

Yes it is. Just the suggestion of that is too much information.

Where's the puke icon when you need it?

I believe the puke icon got all used up in reactions to pictures of your mother.

[Gaffer]

I believe the puke icon got all used up in reactions to pictures of your mother.

You truely are a child.

[TheSage]

You truely are a child.

no. "revenge-derailing" is childish, especially when I don't derail, but provide a slightly different and more comprehensive interpretation of events.

[Gaffer]

no. "revenge-derailing" is childish, especially when I don't derail, but provide a slightly different and more comprehensive interpretation of events.

You derail with the same old garbage over and over. Like a kid interrupting his parents.

[TheSage]

You derail with the same old garbage over and over. Like a kid interrupting his parents.


blah blah blah

[TheSage]

Check this out.



http://www.noahide.com/minimum.htm
The Law is Only a Minimum
In contrast to the wicked Christian doctrine that the Law is too difficult to follow and that everyone falls short of the Law, the Bible (Hebrew Scriptures) clearly teaches that G-d's Law is the absolute minimum that He expects everyone to follow. The Law is merely the foundation for our spiritual service to G-d; we start by obeying every detail of the Law--which is not too difficult--and then we can begin building our spiritual "house" in this world, helping to bring the revelation of G-d's kingdom into the physical world.

In other words, the purpose of life is to serve G-d with everything we have. This starts by obeying His Law completely, and on that basis we are now able to harness our energies and opportunities every single day for His goals, not ours.

The Law contains two parallel (but separate) paths for the world: 613 commandments for the Jews, and 66 commandments (contained in the 7 Noachide Laws) for gentiles. Once a Noachide is committed to keeping the 66 mitzvos, he may (and really should) take on the responsibility for additional mitzvos, with certain clear exceptions: Non-Jews may not observe Shabbos (or holidays) in the manner of Jews (by avoiding the 39 categories of work), nor may non-Jews put on tefillin or tzitzis, put up a mezuzah, or be called up for a public Torah reading in a synagogue. There are other restrictions as well, including certain limitations on Torah study (depending partly on individual circumstances).

But many or most of the 613 mitzvos can be observed by Noachides for spiritual benefit. Indeed, some of these additional commandments are important (though technically not required) for gentiles to observe, while other commandments would also be a good idea.

Our generation, as the Lubavitcher Rebbe has repeatedly declared, is the last generation of exile and darkness, and the first generation of Moshiach (the Messiah) and the Redemption. All of us -- Jews and Noachides -- have an urgent responsibility to transform the world immediately in order to bring Moshiach, and this involves going well beyond the minimum of the Law.

A recent influx of money has enabled a number of orthodox Jewish activists and rabbis to begin organizing Noachide activities and to investigate the Torah rules for how Noachides carry out additional mitzvos. However, our recent activities have nearly exhausted the available funds. We therefore do not yet have all the detailed answers, but we have been making rapid progress.

The following list is therefore only a short summary, not a complete explanation, of additional mitzvos that should be adopted as quickly as possible by Noachides everywhere:

Noachides should pray, at least once every day. There are specific rules how prayer should be done, rules that are routinely violated (out of sheer ignorance) by Christians. There is a proper way to pray, and a wrong way.

Noachides should observe a variety of Torah rules for modesty in dress and behavior, especially between men and women. There are both similarities and differences in how these rules apply to men and women.

Noachides may not observe any religious holidays outside the rabbinical traditions of Torah -- most especially including such Christian holidays as X-mas, Easter, Halloween, All Saint's Day, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, and probably even the "new year" (January 1st). Alien religious holidays are forbidden even under the minimum of the Noachide code; these are violations of the commandment against idolatry.

Instead, Noachides should commemorate at least the following holidays: Rosh Hashanah, Sukkos, the 19th of Kislev (the chasidic "new year"), Chanukah, Purim, Shavuos -- and each person's birthday on the Hebrew calendar. However, Noachide participation in these holidays is different in various ways from the manner of Jewish observance. Each holiday must be observed according to precise rules.

Noachides, generally speaking, should not limit the number of children they have. Moreover, a proper Torah education for their children is absolutely essential. Ultimately, such a Torah-learning program will be similar to the programs for Jewish children, but with many important differences.

Right now, a supplemental daily home-schooling Torah program is being developed and used to teach Noachide children. All parents must rapidly get involved, teaching their children at least one hour per day (after school, for example) according to this program. As the number of participating families grows, it will soon be possible to organize full-time Noachide chedarim (day schools for grade-school children) in many communities. This approach to education, based on the three-thousand-year-old Jewish yeshiva system, drastically minimizes secular studies (math, science, history, English, social studies, computers & other technical studies) in favor of total immersion in Torah, the Word of G-d. This includes written Torah, oral Torah, halacha (religious law), Hebrew language, etc.; this philosophy of education is fundamentally opposite the one used in public and private schools and in standard home-schooling programs. -- A NEW DARK AGE

Noachides should give tzedaka (charity) for genuinely poor people, interest-free loans to others who are not as poor, and support for Torah education. We can easily identify numerous people who need genuine charitable assistance of one type or another: The elderly, unwed mothers & pregnant teens (who might otherwise have abortions), inner-city children, etc. The assistance is not just through money; in many cases, people need organized programs and activities to help them get involved in positive community affairs, rather than becoming isolated and lonely.

Again, there are a number of exact rules as to how to give such money, time, etc.

It would also be good to give contributions to the Israeli settlers in the West Bank, whose communities are now becoming endangered by the growing PLO occupation forces and terrorist actions. These brave families and yeshivos need much support from Americans. --political much?

The Noachide commandment of "justice" primarily means teaching one's neighbors, friends, associates, etc., the details of the Noachide code, and that G-d sees and hears everything, rewarding every good deed and punishing every sin. This means outreach. Noachides must turn Christians away from their idolatry and their disregard of G-d's Law, and must bring all gentiles to a full acceptance of G-d's Law, including the oral Torah and the complete authority of the orthodox rabbis.This will quickly revolutionize our society, restoring morality, respect for authority, and the fear of G-d throughout the land. Similar efforts, of course, must also be extended to foreign countries. --theocracy

Certain materials, including fliers and books, are already available for this outreach, and audiotape lectures are being developed.

We learn from the prophet Isaiah that Noachides will play a very important role in bringing non-observant Jews back to their 613 commandments. As part of the outreach effort to other gentiles, Noachides must further direct their energies toward teaching Jews the important of Jewish law. Noachides must also aggressively combat the schemes of Christian missionaries, who are stealing Jewish--and gentile--souls away from eternal life under G-d's Law to the evil of Christian idolatry.

To prepare the way for establishing proper Noachide courts of law, Noachides must make a special effort--beyond all other Torah studies--to learn, in detail, the exact requirements of every part of the Noachide code. This is a difficult, long-term task, because the details of the Noachide laws apply to every possible situation in life. But a thorough learning of the Noachide halachos will open the door for selecting G-d-fearing Noachide judges for the future courts. This project can begin immediately with the study of the existing books on the Noachide laws, and will later be followed up with rabbinically-supervised yeshiva programs that still need to be organized.

A number of other programs must be organized by Noachide communities, including making kosher meat available as a substitute for the improper meat in the stores (this is particularly needed in parts of the country remote from Jewish communities); helping arrange proper Noachide marriages, and creating family support networks for childbirth, death, etc.; financially assisting the building and expansion of orthodox Jewish synagogues to have additional rooms for Noachide meetings; teaching other gentiles how to attain financial discipline and pay off outstanding debts (especially credit card debts); and so forth.

All the above recommendations will accelerate the revelation of Moshiach (the Messiah), so there is no time to waste. Let's get to work!



Do you believe this theocratic crap?

[OCA]

I believe the puke icon got all used up in reactions to pictures of your mother.


RWA this is your one and only warning, don't make me look like a fuck for being the one who had your back when we discussed bringing you back to the board. Do not get personal with others family members.

Quit turning all threads not started by you into bullshit rants on irrelevant topics.

[TheSage]

RWA this is your one and only warning, don't make me look like a fuck for being the one who had your back when we discussed bringing you back to the board. Do not get personal with others family members.

Quit turning all threads not started by you into bullshit rants on irrelevant topics.


Oh. I see. You can mock me for my wife leaving me, but I was over the line here. I get it.

[OCA]

A simple question of "was your wife into you" is hardly mocking, and actually yes I can mock you just like you can mock Gaffer.....you may not mock his family members, understand?

[TheSage]

A simple question of "was your wife into you" is hardly mocking, and actually yes I can mock you just like you can mock Gaffer.....you may not mock his family members, understand?

Oh. So I can call you a smelly Greek with no repercussions? Cool.

[OCA]

Oh. So I can call you a smelly Greek with no repercussions? Cool.

Your vaudeville act is wearing thin.

[TheSage]

Your vaudeville act is wearing thin.

Taaa-Daaaa! :p

[TheSage]

Your vaudeville act is wearing thin.

Sorry man. I actually like Greeks. We just had the greek festival in atl a couple months ago. It was kickass.

[eighballsidepocket]

In simple summation, the Noahide movement is in essence a return to the outmode Old Testament life of living by Mosaic Law in order to appease, please, or in some way get God to accept you.

Jesus fullfilled the Law in full at the cross, and now we are justified by "grace" alone through faith in the one and only one who was capable of fullfilling the Mosaic Law.

Both Jew and Gentile was come to the same Saviour, and both will be saved/converted/, be born from above/ or born again via the same way..........through faith in the finished work of Jesus at Calvary's cross. Jesus was the propitiation, and attonement for man's sinful nature.

Grace = unmerited favor = we couldn't in anyway through are own volitional acts, please God, or fullfill the requirements of the Law. The Law condemmed us, as "dead" in our sins/trespasses. The Law indeed is good, as it showed us our depraved state.

Noahidic teaching wants to ressurrect pre-Mosaic law living and have a convoluted idea that there are basic Laws that weren given to Adam and Eve and finally to Noah that seem to say it all, and supercede all other Laws.

Noahidic teaching also can't accept the fact that Jews can also become Christians and accept Christ through faith as gentiles have for many centurys. In fact the first converts to Christianity were Jews...........It started at Pentacost in Jerusalem when the 11 apostles preached to the multitudes of Jews that were gathering in Jerusalem for the Pentacost holidays, and many became believers immediately after hearing Peter speak with unheard of power. Also these Jews came from many nations and didn't speak Hebrew or aramiac yet they all miraculously understood what the Apostles were pronoucing.

They are nowadays called Messianic Jews......or Jews who have found their Messiah.........They are Christian Jews. Noahidic followers totally deny this and of course are totally disagreeing with direct biblical accounts.
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They are not much different from the folks that the Apostle Paul encountered while dealing with problems with the gentile church at Galatia. In his letter/epistle to the Galatian Christians, he/Paul warned them of a group of Jews he called "Judiazers". These folks were telling the Gentile Christians that they were really not abiding in the true Christian faith unless they were circumcized and adopted many Jewish/religious ordinances. Paul chastised these folks he called Judiazers, as folks trying to drag these new believers back into living by the Law or Laws of the Jews to be acceptable or justified before God.

Paul taught correctly that the desire to obey God was not an external thing with the true believer/Christian, but was a desire that was supernaturally placed in every man and woman who became converted or born-again. It was the Holy Spirit that had come to reside in the believer and motivated the believer in his/her's deepest inner man/woman to desire to love, and obey God. External warnings and do's and don't in order to please God were no longer necessary, and of course never did meet God's criteria, as man could only fail by trying to be good, when his inner self was still lost and not converted with the residing Holy Spirit in his soul.
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I totally agree! The Noahidic movement is totally unbiblical, and it is totally opposite of God's teachings both in the O.T. and N.T.. It is spurious, and possible dangerous if it takes hold with large numbers of people. It has no room or appreciation for anyone or anything unless it is gentile in nature.

[TheSage]

Eightball. What do you think of my pet theory that dispensationalism is a trojan horse placed inside christianity by masons to convert them into noahides?

[eighballsidepocket]

Eightball. What do you think of my pet theory that dispensationalism is a trojan horse placed inside christianity by masons to convert them into noahides?

How about you let me get back to you on that topic. I need to do a little, refresher research on the dispensationalism verses covenants doctrines topic.

Currently I'm dealing with Calvinism and Arminianism with a couple Christian folks/buddies and a bible study I'm involved with. It's been an interesting journey, too.