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Silver
06-18-2008, 08:56 PM
Pretty much confirms it.....:finger3:


Urgent: House Democrats call for nationalization of refineries

Per Pergram-Capitol Hill

House Democrats responded to President's Bush's call for Congress to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling. This was at an on-camera press conference fed back live.

Among other things, the Democrats called for the government to own refineries so it could better control the flow of the oil supply.

They also reasserted that the reason the Appropriations Committee markup (where the vote on the amendment to lift the ban) was cancelled so they could focus on preparing the supplemental Iraq spending bill for tomorrow.

At an off-camera briefing, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) said the same. And a senior Republican House Appropriations Committee aide adds that "there were multiple reasons for the postponement" including discussion on the supplemental. But the aide said there was the thought that Democrats may wish to avoid a debate today on energy amendments.

Here are the highlights from briefing

Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY), member of the House Appropriations Committee and one of the most-ardent opponents of off-shore drilling

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We (the government) should own the refineries. Then we can control how much gets out into the market.

Hinchey on why they postponed the Appropriations markup



http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#a54ef44,2008-06-18

Gaffer
06-18-2008, 10:27 PM
Saw this this afternoon. Can't get any more socialists than this statement.

Dilloduck
06-18-2008, 10:57 PM
Saw this this afternoon. Can't get any more socialists than this statement.

Nope--and plenty of Americans have been seduced into thinking they want it.

Gaffer
06-18-2008, 11:55 PM
Nope--and plenty of Americans have been seduced into thinking they want it.

Yeah, it's evident just here on this board.

I'm guessing the second civil war will be starting in about ten years. Could be sooner. It won't be on the scale of the last one, but it's coming.

crin63
06-19-2008, 12:18 AM
I'm guessing the second civil war will be starting in about ten years. Could be sooner. It won't be on the scale of the last one, but it's coming.

I went to Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Oregon last summer and fall. I went to gun shops, gun shows and pawn shops in each of those states. I have a habit of chit chatting endlessly at those kind of places. Including California there was mention of civil war or revolution in each of those states. No one mentioned starting it, they were all just expecting and waiting for it.

glockmail
06-19-2008, 08:12 AM
So the Democrat's plan is to nationalize the refineries and sue the foreign suppliers. It's going to be a great presidential campaign. :coffee:

midcan5
06-19-2008, 02:45 PM
"Based on observations of the policies of my own government, I viewed this action as an acceptable option." Timothy McVeigh

glockmail
06-19-2008, 02:53 PM
"Based on observations of the policies of my own government, I viewed this action as an acceptable option." Timothy McVeigh
Right cause wrong target. Start with Congress or the SCOTUS.

5stringJeff
06-19-2008, 04:51 PM
Right cause wrong target. Start with Congress or the SCOTUS.

So you advocate the terrorist bombing of Congress? :uhoh:

glockmail
06-19-2008, 08:19 PM
So you advocate the terrorist bombing of Congress? :uhoh:
Terrorism is against innocents.

namvet
06-19-2008, 08:50 PM
they are truly the American terrorists.

5stringJeff
06-19-2008, 09:34 PM
Terrorism is against innocents.

The American Heritage Dictionary defines terrorism as:

"The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."

Your advocacy of a terrorist act against Congress meets the definition almost exactly. Congratulations, terrorist. Now go get yourself a degree:

glockmail
06-20-2008, 07:09 AM
The American Heritage Dictionary defines terrorism as:

"The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."

Your advocacy of a terrorist act against Congress meets the definition almost exactly. Congratulations, terrorist. Now go get yourself a degree:

That definition also describes actions of the Patriots during the American Revolution. Congratulations, Tory. And back at ya! for the neg rep. :slap:

namvet
06-20-2008, 08:11 AM
it was a scare tactic. now they back off. or is that jack off????

Rep. Hinchey Steps Off Idea of Oil Refinery Nationalization

WASHINGTON — A Democratic lawmaker stepped off the idea of nationalizing oil refineries, telling FOX News on Thursday he only means to put "national pressure" on oil companies — a day after he endorsed the idea of government refinery ownership.



source (source)

glockmail
06-20-2008, 08:16 AM
it was a scare tactic. now they back off. or is that jack off????

Rep. Hinchey Steps Off Idea of Oil Refinery Nationalization


source (source)

Is he lying now or was he lying then?

Joe Steel
06-20-2008, 08:44 AM
Pretty much confirms it.....

Urgent: House Democrats call for nationalization of refineries

Per Pergram-Capitol Hill

House Democrats responded to President's Bush's call for Congress to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling. This was at an on-camera press conference fed back live.

Among other things, the Democrats called for the government to own refineries so it could better control the flow of the oil supply.

Communists?

Not even close.

If they were, this would have been done a long time ago...as it should have.

namvet
06-20-2008, 08:48 AM
Is he lying now or was he lying then?

ah ha.

To understand how a liberal thinks, you must define terms:

To understand the liberal mindset, you have to speak their language. Like the Chinese, they tend to have a different word for everything.

Perhaps these definitions of liberal terms and phrases can help conservatives understand what they are really saying.


Investment – higher taxes for everyone else that liberals won’t have to pay

Pro-choice – standing up for the rights of women as long as they choose to follow liberal ideology and kill their unborn babies

Energy independence – confiscation of oil and gas profits coupled with a reliance on wind power for commercial airlines

Super delegates – undemocratic elites who pretend to represent public opinion

Gay – normal

Working families – anyone who doesn’t own their own business

Socialism – a system that lets government take care of everyone

Tax cuts – the government giving back your money that doesn’t really belong to you

Evolution – a fact

Global warming – the greatest threat to mankind since the dawn of time

Climate change – a fallback theory in case global warming is followed by global cooling

Tobacco – a harmful substance that should be taxed out of existence

Illegal drugs – substances that should be legalized so they could be taxed

Green – refers to money raised for environmental causes

Christianity – one of a bunch of equal religions – all of which lead to God(s)

Conservatives – Neanderthals who don’t believe government can solve all our problems

Redistribution of wealth – a method of making everyone in the world like America again

Republicans – when the layers are peeled off, their elected officials look a lot like Democrats

United Nations – the greatest organization in the world

News media – our best hope to implant unpopular policies while a preoccupied public isn’t watching

Amnesty – incumbent protection

Communism – a wonderful political system that would succeed if given a chance

Judges – creators of new law

Fairness doctrine – the best way to shut up conservative talk radio

Tax code – see wealth redistribution (domestic)

2nd Amendment – an outdated concept that lets people kill other people

AIDS – a deadly disease that is controlled politically, not medically

Super Corridor – a mythical concept of North American unification (see Trans Texas Corridor)

Environmentalism – a philosophy that makes you pay $4 for gas for your car while I drive an SUV

Embryonic stem cells – this must be the focus of research even though adult stem cells have more promise

Peace – a goal that can only be accomplished by sitting down at a table with our bitter enemies and showing them great respect

Bible – an outdated book that is not meant to be taken literally (or seriously)

Marriage – an outdated institution that could apply to a man and a woman, a man and a man, a woman and a woman, a man and a woman and another woman or a man and (fill in the blank)

Green card – an environmentally funny comedian

Air America – a radio network that keeps going bankrupt even though it is very “popular”

RINO (Republican in name only) – a friend

DINO (Democrat in name only) – an enemy

Militarism – any action taken by the U.S. Army

First Amendment – the right for you to say anything you want unless it is anti-homosexual or disagrees with what a liberal thinks

Prayer in schools – an insidious effort to force children with tender hearts to acknowledge there is a God

Nanny state – the best way to protect young children from the influence of their untrained parents

NAFTA – a chance to get America headed down the same path as Europe

Inheritance tax – a just way to punish the rich

Jimmy Carter – the greatest president (and ex-president) ever

Education – a movement to re-educate children, especially those influenced by their parents

Social disease – a necessary byproduct of open sexual mores.

U.S. Constitution – a living document that changes all the time according to the mood of the judiciary

Karl Marx – a pioneer in political thought

Islam – a more peaceful religion than Christianity

Spanking – cruel and unusual punishment; child abuse

Cuba – an island paradise where everyone prospers

got it????

Yurt
06-20-2008, 02:29 PM
Communists?

Not even close.

If they were, this would have been done a long time ago...as it should have.

thats logic, well if they were, they would have done it :poke: ever thought that they try and fail because the american people, overall, are not red like you commie....why don't you go live in a commie system if you like so much

gabosaurus
06-20-2008, 03:33 PM
How many of you are brave enough to admit membership?

http://i27.tinypic.com/29en6g6.jpg

Yurt
06-20-2008, 03:40 PM
How many of you are brave enough to admit membership?

http://i27.tinypic.com/29en6g6.jpg

why do you keep airing your sexual fantasies

Hagbard Celine
06-20-2008, 04:35 PM
ah ha.

To understand how a CONSERVATIVE thinks, you must define terms:

To understand the CONSERVATIVE mindset, you have to speak their language. Like the Chinese, they tend to have a different word for everything.

Perhaps these definitions of CONSERVATIVE terms and phrases can help RATIONAL PEOPLE understand what they are really saying.


Investment – Halliburton

Pro-life – All access pass to stick their nose in every vagina in America and impose their religious beliefs on it.

Energy independence – Backdoor deals with Saudi royals coupled with raping our homeland environment.

Elected official - One who loses the popular election but gets the office anyway due to judicial fiat.

Gay – A point of intense and exciting obsession.

Working families – The Cleavers, and nobody else.

Socialism – Pure evil. Why would we want a social net when we can work all our lives and pay premiums out of pocket for everything instead?

Tax cuts – Something to give to corporations and people who make more than $200,000 a year in exchange for campaign donations.

Evolution – I don't have tail. Do you see a tail on me?

Global warming – So-called “global warming” is just a secret ploy by wacko tree-huggers to make America energy independent, clean our air and water, improve the fuel efficiency of our vehicles, kick-start 21st-century industries, and make our cities safer and more livable. Don’t let them get away with it!

Climate change – Another county in the state of denial.

Tobacco – An industry of innocent entrepreneurs who've been terrorized by greedy liberal lawyers who had the gaul to stand up for consumer safety.

Illegal drugs – something to be kept arbitrarily illegal so that we can continue to burn the farms of brown people in South America and create jobs in the prison industry here at home.

Green – Gay

Christianity – Something we like the idea of but are too mentally weak and/or hypocritical to actually follow-through with.

Liberals - Green-skinned, baby-eating aliens who hate America, support terrorists and use big words.

Redistribution of wealth – A straw man we made up so that we'd have something intelligent-sounding to say when Libs try to fool us into becoming Communists. (kinda like "Intelligent Design")

Democrats – See "Liberals"

United Nations – A bunch of prissy foreigners. The opinions of the other 4 billion people on Earth don't matter.

News media – Fox News, Drudge Report, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter. Everything else is part of the green-skinned lib conspiracy to make our children gay. Also, they went to Universities. *shiver*

Amnesty – Not as fun as spending a perfectly good Saturday afternoon sitting in a rocking chair at the border with a six pack of Busch and a shotgun.

Communism – Any liberal policy.

Judges – Liberals who went to *shiver* Universities. Not to be trusted.

Conservative Talk Radio - Good natured, politically correct, intelligent and truthful reparte about policy in America. Working to uncover the Liberal aliens' insidious plans to instate Sharia Law, dispose of Christianity and build factories for pumping out tv dinners made of babies.

Tax code – See "tax cuts."

2nd Amendment – I wish I had been born as Wyatt Earp.

AIDS – God's punishment for the gays.

Super Corridor – Super mayne? What?

Environmentalism – See Global warming. Don't let them get away with it!

Embryonic stem cells – A liberal plot against God to eat more babies that has nothing to do with finding cures for debilitating genetic diseases.

Peace – A goal that can only be achieved through violence.

Bible – The historical and scientific alpha and omega.

Marriage – The gays want to destroy it, and in turn, all of civilization.

Green card – Just one more thing we can NEVER change no matter the need. We must CONSERVE the status quo!

Air America – We're the only ones who listen to any of this sh*t.

Perfect and free of all error – any action taken by the U.S. Army

First Amendment – A free pass to be as bigoted and intolerant as we want all the time.

Prayer in schools – Something that must be government endorsed, f*ck the first amendment.

Nanny state – See "distribution of wealth."

NAFTA – See "green card"

Inheritance tax – The only tax issue we really know anything about and which only actually influences 0.1 percent of the population--the percent we actually give tax cuts to.

Jimmy Carter – The person who excuses Dubya.

Education – Something to be suspicious of.

Social disease – God's punishment for the gays.

U.S. Constitution – See "green card."

Karl Marx – See "redistribution of wealth."

Islam – Terrorists

Spanking – Something we all do to our spouses behind closed doors, but which we use to judge others in public. (We're all incredible hypocrites)
Also, violence is always the road to peace. Even in child rearing.

Cuba – See "green card."

got it????


Tee hee! I can make stupid sh*t up too!

gabosaurus
06-20-2008, 05:19 PM
Show us your pink membership card, yurt. We know you can pack fudge with the best of them.

Yurt
06-20-2008, 05:23 PM
Show us your pink membership card, yurt. We know you can pack fudge with the best of them.

fudge? pink membership? no idea what you are talking about, more closet fantasies gabs?

5stringJeff
06-21-2008, 07:54 AM
That definition also describes actions of the Patriots during the American Revolution. Congratulations, Tory. And back at ya! for the neg rep. :slap:

Incorrect. The Patriots fought against regular troops (and mercenaries), not against civilians in the Colonies. In fact, it was overwhelmingly the British who destroyed the properties of Patriots, not the other way around.

glockmail
06-21-2008, 12:49 PM
Incorrect. The Patriots fought against regular troops (and mercenaries), not against civilians in the Colonies. In fact, it was overwhelmingly the British who destroyed the properties of Patriots, not the other way around.

….. Upset with the lack of redress concerning the new tax on tea established by the British government for importation of tea to Boston, a small band of the Boston Committee of Correspondence members (approximately fifty in number) led by Samuel Adams, proceeded to empty three ships worth and 342 chests of tea into Boston Harbor in protest. …
During a series of protests linked to the Sons of Liberty, colonists burn and sack the house of the Massachusetts lieutenant governor, Thomas Hutchinson….
… ten boxes of parchment and stamped paper were delivered to City Hall and immediately confiscated, unpacked, and burned by secret leaders of the New York Sons group. ……Violence broke out with the arrival of a shipment of stamped paper to the Royal Governor's residence. … a raucous mob captured the governor's gilded and spectacular coach and reduced it to a pile of ashes. From here the mob (consisting largely of extremist elements of the New York Sons of Liberty) raced uptown to the home of Fort George's commander, smashing numerous windows and breaking into the wine cellar to sustain their "patriotism" before descending on the rest of the house in a convulsion of vandalism.

Tarring and feathering Loyalists — those individuals who sympathized and were supportive of the British Crown, royal tax collectors, and other officials — was a common practice carried out by the more radical elements of the organizations. http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/fall96/sons.html :cheers2:

red states rule
06-21-2008, 12:59 PM
Why is Barack Obama running for office as a Democrat?

The Communist Party didn’t have enough voters.

namvet
06-21-2008, 01:02 PM
Why is Barack Obama running for office as a Democrat?

The Communist Party didn’t have enough voters.

unless they dig up Stalin................

red states rule
06-21-2008, 01:04 PM
unless they dig up Stalin................

That would be a toss up between Peanurt Carter or Ted (hic) Kennedy

retiredman
06-21-2008, 01:04 PM
open mike night at the comedy club. this thread belongs in the humor forum.

red states rule
06-21-2008, 01:07 PM
Some libs can't stand the truth about their party, what they say, and stand for

retiredman
06-21-2008, 01:28 PM
Some libs can't stand the truth about their party, what they say, and stand for

you wouldn't know truth if it bit you in the ass.

namvet
06-21-2008, 01:41 PM
Some libs can't stand the truth about their party, what they say, and stand for

what party??????

Silver
06-21-2008, 05:21 PM
you wouldn't know truth if it bit you in the ass.

\and you wouldn't know the truth because you are an ass....


WE KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH

http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm


COMMUNIST PARTY USA - ...........While the party has not directly run any candidates since the late 1980s, the CPUSA sometimes backs some candidates in various local elections (often in Northeastern industrial communities) and engages in grassroots political and labor union organizing. In the 1998 elections,

longtime CPUSA leader Hall actually urged party members to vote for all of the Democratic candidates for Congress -- arguing that voting for any progressive third party candidates would undermine the efforts to oust the "reactionary" Republicans from control of Congress.

As for issues, the CPUSA

calls for free universal health care,

elimination of the federal income tax on people earning under $60,000 a year, free college education,

drastic cuts in military spending, "massive" public works programs,

the outlawing of "scabs and union busting,"

huge tax hikes for corporations and the wealthy,
----------------------------------------------------------
Sounds alot like the rants of Democrat poiticans, doesn't it MFM ?

You all have alot in common with the Communist Party USA...

namvet
06-21-2008, 05:29 PM
\and you wouldn't know the truth because you are an ass....


WE KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH

http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm


COMMUNIST PARTY USA - ...........While the party has not directly run any candidates since the late 1980s, the CPUSA sometimes backs some candidates in various local elections (often in Northeastern industrial communities) and engages in grassroots political and labor union organizing. In the 1998 elections,

longtime CPUSA leader Hall actually urged party members to vote for all of the Democratic candidates for Congress -- arguing that voting for any progressive third party candidates would undermine the efforts to oust the "reactionary" Republicans from control of Congress.

As for issues, the CPUSA

calls for free universal health care,

elimination of the federal income tax on people earning under $60,000 a year, free college education,

drastic cuts in military spending, "massive" public works programs,

the outlawing of "scabs and union busting,"

huge tax hikes for corporations and the wealthy,
----------------------------------------------------------
Sounds alot like the rants of Democrat poiticans, doesn't it MFM ?

You all have alot in common with the Communist Party USA...

you forgot the free whores...............

Silver
06-21-2008, 05:35 PM
you forgot the free whores...............

The free whores don't enter the picture until the Dem Convention.....
but don't believe that 'free' crap....Soros will pick up the tab...

namvet
06-21-2008, 05:37 PM
The free whores don't enter the picture until the Dem Convention.....
but don't believe that 'free' crap....Soros will pick up the tab...

well ok. good. long as i get mine

glockmail
06-21-2008, 07:37 PM
\and you wouldn't know the truth because you are an ass....


WE KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH

http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm


COMMUNIST PARTY USA - ...........While the party has not directly run any candidates since the late 1980s, the CPUSA sometimes backs some candidates in various local elections (often in Northeastern industrial communities) and engages in grassroots political and labor union organizing. In the 1998 elections,

longtime CPUSA leader Hall actually urged party members to vote for all of the Democratic candidates for Congress -- arguing that voting for any progressive third party candidates would undermine the efforts to oust the "reactionary" Republicans from control of Congress.

As for issues, the CPUSA

calls for free universal health care,

elimination of the federal income tax on people earning under $60,000 a year, free college education,

drastic cuts in military spending, "massive" public works programs,

the outlawing of "scabs and union busting,"

huge tax hikes for corporations and the wealthy,
----------------------------------------------------------
Sounds alot like the rants of Democrat poiticans, doesn't it MFM ?

You all have alot in common with the Communist Party USA...

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

red states rule
06-23-2008, 05:25 AM
\and you wouldn't know the truth because you are an ass....


WE KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH

http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm


COMMUNIST PARTY USA - ...........While the party has not directly run any candidates since the late 1980s, the CPUSA sometimes backs some candidates in various local elections (often in Northeastern industrial communities) and engages in grassroots political and labor union organizing. In the 1998 elections,

longtime CPUSA leader Hall actually urged party members to vote for all of the Democratic candidates for Congress -- arguing that voting for any progressive third party candidates would undermine the efforts to oust the "reactionary" Republicans from control of Congress.

As for issues, the CPUSA

calls for free universal health care,

elimination of the federal income tax on people earning under $60,000 a year, free college education,

drastic cuts in military spending, "massive" public works programs,

the outlawing of "scabs and union busting,"

huge tax hikes for corporations and the wealthy,
----------------------------------------------------------
Sounds alot like the rants of Democrat poiticans, doesn't it MFM ?

You all have alot in common with the Communist Party USA...



Did MFM write this platform? Sounds like one of the "sermons" he gives here