Investigators Release Reports on Obama's Communist Connections

[No_Socialism]

Investigators Release Reports on Obama's Communist Connections

Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (PDF) (http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf)
Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (PDF) (http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf)

Washington, DC- Two veterans of investigations into Communist influence on the U.S. political process have released two new explosive reports on Barack Obama's ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. The reports will shed important new light on Barack Obama's mysterious past.

WHO: Herbert Romerstein, an author and investigative journalist, served as an investigator for the much-feared U. S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, the House Committee on Internal Security, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was head of the Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation for the United States Information Agency. One of his recent books is the acclaimed THE VENONA SECRETS: EXPOSING SOVIET ESPIONAGE AND AMERICA'S TRAITORS.

Cliff Kincaid is an investigative journalist who specializes in analyzing the effects of communist and terrorist influence on the U.S. media. He is founder and president of America's Survival, Inc., and editor of Accuracy in Media's AIM Report. He is the author or coauthor of nine books, including WHY YOU CAN'T TRUST THE NEWS, and was instrumental in denying access to the U.S. media market to the Islamic terrorist Al-Jazeera television channel.

Major findings include:

o Barack Obama has been influenced, surrounded and backed by communists, socialists, and those sympathetic to the Arab/Palestinian cause in the Middle East.
o Obama has been in the middle of two international communist networks – one in Hawaii and one in Chicago.
o The Hawaii network included communists Frank Marshall Davis, who was Obama’s personal mentor; actor/singer Paul Robeson; and labor leader Harry Bridges. The network was judged a security threat to the United States and the subject of a congressional hearing on the “Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States.”
o The Hawaii communist network was organized directly by and from Moscow.
o Obama covered up the true identity of Frank Marshall Davis in his book, Dreams From My Father.
o The Chicago network included identified communists and socialists, was committed to a communist victory in the Vietnam War, and took instructions from the communist Castro regime in Cuba.
o In addition to communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who were members of the Weather Underground, the Chicago network includes many veterans of the communist Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) who now proclaim themselves “Progressives for Obama.”
o One of the leaders of “Progressives for Obama” is former SDS leader Tom Hayden, who wrote a letter to a communist Vietnamese official during the Vietnam War hoping for a “victory” over the U.S.
o Several SDS officials and the SDS itself had connections to the Communist Party USA.
o The SDS openly promoted communism, the regimes in Hanoi and Havana, and condemned alleged U.S. “imperialism.”
o There is evidence that Obama backer Bernardine Dohrn, who traveled to Cuba to meet with communist officials, was involved in a bombing that killed a policeman.
o Ayers, who helped launch Obama’s political career, has traveled to Venezuela on several occasions and is an enthusiastic backer of the brand of communism being practiced and promoted by Hugo Chavez.
o Ayers’ university office door and wall are plastered with communist, anti-Israel, and pro-Hugo Chavez propaganda.
o Bernardine Dohrn has participated in two events organized by the Open Society Institute of Obama backer and billionaire leftist George Soros.
o The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), a group that included a convicted espionage agent for communist East Germany, backed and promoted Obama’s political career.
o Obama spoke at a memorial service on behalf of a leading Chicago socialist activist.
o It appears that Obama actually worked for Ayers in a Chicago educational reform program that dispensed millions of dollars of grants.
o Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer, who picked Obama as her successor, has a record of involvement in communist front activities.
o Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod, as well as Obama himself, have not explained why Ayers, Dohrn, then-State Senator Alice Palmer, and Dr. Quentin Young came together at the Ayers/Dohrn home to launch Obama’s political career.
o Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, a client of Axelrod, issued a controversial and misleading statement defending Obama’s relationship with communist terrorist Bill Ayers.
o Illinois Lt. Governor Pat Quinn, another Axelrod client, designated “Quentin Young Day” in the state, in honor of an Obama supporter once questioned about his involvement in backing SDS activities and who was accused of being a CPUSA member. (Young refused to deny he was a CPUSA member before a congressional committee but during an informal interview said he had never joined the CPUSA).

[hjmick]

10...9...8...

[glockmail]

Here come the apologists....

:popcorn:

[hjmick]

Here come the apologists....

:popcorn:

They're not signed on right now. Probably out collecting their talking points from DailyKos and Huffington Post. :laugh2:

[Pale Rider]

Here come the apologists....

:popcorn:


They're not signed on right now. Probably out collecting their talking points from DailyKos and Huffington Post. :laugh2:

mfm is here... but he's still sucking on his bottle of hussein kool aide... he'll be in in just to a bit make up some lame excuse for this...

[No_Socialism]

Wow the Hillary message board is all over this:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=12113

[No_Socialism]

New thread about this on the Hillary message board:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=12760

[Pale Rider]

Wow the Hillary message board is all over this:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=12113

This is a very interesting comment left by one of the members....


Yes--especially interesting when you consider Rev Wright's explosive comments about AIDS being introduced by the US Govt. This was a Soviet misinformation campaign in the 1980s. It makes the Communist links to Wright and Obama's church point and makes Obama even scarier. This is quite well known, and yet another thing that the media ignores, even when talking about Wright's actual comment. Its even on US govt websites:

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archiv...14-777030.html

[No_Socialism]

Our Future?

http://caosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/obamunism.jpg

[No_Socialism]

Story picked up:

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ELECTION 2008
Report: Obama mentored by Communist Party figure
Investigations show ties to radicals who shaped him, helped launch his political career

Barack Obama had extensive ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA, in Hawaii and Chicago, according to two new reports released yesterday in Washington, D.C., by two experienced internal security investigators.

Investigative journalist Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein, a former investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, presented evidence Obama was mentored, while attending high school in Hawaii, by Frank Marshall Davis, an African-American poet and journalist who was also a CPUSA member.

The authors, in a separate report, document Obama's ties to radicals in Chicago who helped launch his career.

In a paper entitled "Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection," the authors document that in 1948, Davis decided to move from Chicago to Honolulu at the suggestion of what they describe as two "secret CPUSA members," actor Paul Robeson and Harry Bridges, the head of the International Longshoremen's and Warehousemen Union, or ILWU.

In Chicago, Davis had worked for the Chicago Star newspaper; in Honolulu, he was hired as a reporter for the Honolulu Record, both identified by Kincaid and Romerstein as "communist front newspapers."

In his autobiography, "Dreams from My Father," Obama discusses the influence a mentor identified in the book only as "Frank" had on his intellectual development.

Obama described Frank as a drinking companion of his grandfather, who had boasted of his association with African-American authors Richard Wright and Langston Hughes during the time Frank was a journalist in Chicago.

Romerstein, in addition to having served as investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, served in the same capacity with the House Committee on Internal Security and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was the head of the Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation for the U.S. Information Agency. Romerstein is also co-author of the influential book "The Venona Secrets: Exposing Soviet Espionage and America's Traitors," which included extensive documentation of the communist activities of Roosevelt administration staffer Alger Hiss.

Kincaid is the founder and president of America's Survival Inc., an independent watchdog group that monitors the U.N. and international terrorism. He is also editor of Accuracy in Media's AIM Report.

Are you a member of the Communist Party?

Kincaid and Romerstein quote Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979

A transcript of a 1956 hearing before the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee discovered by internal security affairs researcher and writer Max Friedman showed Davis took the Fifth Amendment when asked by the subcommittee if he was or had ever been a member of the Communist Party.

In the second report, "Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection," Kincaid and Romerstein present evidence supporting their contention the SDS organization from which the Weather Underground organization and radicals Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn came, received financial contributions from the CPUSA, which in turn receive its funding from Moscow.

Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Ayers' and Dorhn's Chicago home by Alice Palmer. Palmer had named Obama to succeed her in the state Senate in 1995, when she decided to run for a U.S. congressional seat.

Nine years before Palmer picked Obama to be her successor, she was the only African-American journalist to travel to the Soviet Union to attend the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, according to an article Palmer wrote in the CPUSA newspaper, People's Daily World, June 19, 1986.

"There has been no explanation of why Ayers et al. played a role in launching Obama's political career," Kincaid wrote.

Kincaid and Romerstein present documentation that Tom Hayden, another major figure in the SDS, is today one of four principal initiators of the "Progressives for Obama" movement, which calls for ending the war in Iraq "as quickly as possible, not in five years."

According to Kincaid and Romerstein, U.S. Peace Council executive committee member Frank Chapman "blew the whistle on communist support for Obama's presidential bid and his real agenda" in a letter to the People's Weekly World after Obama's win in the Iowa Democratic Party caucuses.

"Obama's victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle," Chapman wrote. "Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface.

Kincaid and Romerstein wrote, "The clear implication of Chapman's letter is that Obama himself, or some of his Marxist supporters, are acting like moles in the political process. The suggestion is that something is being hidden from the public."

Link (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066)
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[Yurt]

the problem is, the majority of the left has no problem with communist ideas. we have been too long from the red scare and even then elements of this great society actually believed the communist had it right. most people want to be cradled and have someone else responsible...

[No_Socialism]

I sent this e-mail to Cliff Kincaid (one of the authors of the report):

Hi Cliff,

I've been following your reports on Obama's ties to socialism and communism for a few months and have written a few blogs about it myself. I would like to point out some things that you didn't include in your report(s). Not sure if you already knew about them or not...

- Obama's Church is rooted in "black liberation theology". Liberation theology is rooted in Marxism:

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The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.

Black theology is one of the many theologies in the Americas that became popular during the liberation theology movement. They include Hispanic theology, Native American theology, Asian theology and Womanist theology.

http://www.tucc.org/talking_points.htm
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Question: "What is Liberation Theology?"

Answer: Simply put, Liberation Theology is an attempt to interpret Scripture through the plight of the poor. It is largely a humanistic doctrine. It started in South America in the turbulent 1950's when Marxism was making great gains among the poor because of its emphasis on the redistribution of wealth, allowing poor peasants to share in the wealth of the colonial elite and thus upgrade their economic status in life.

http://www.gotquestions.org/liberation-theology.html
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Ken Blackwell has put out some good information on this topic:

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Barack Obama just gave an eloquent speech, but one that does not address the underlying nature of Senator Obamas beliefs. Rev. Jeremiah Wright, like Mr. Obama, believes in a state-centered 21st century form of big-government socialism. This 21st century form of socialism is at the heart of the Liberation Theology Rev. Wright preaches from the pulpit. Today, Mr. Obama again made it clear, with all his eloquence, that he still embraces these beliefs that would require dismantling the free-market system that has made our countrys economy the most prosperous in all of human history.

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080318/pl_usnw/frc_action___s_ken_blackwell__eloquent_speech__tro ubling_worldview)
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- Obama Endorses Bernie Sanders, the only openly socialist senator in the US Senate.

Obama endorsing Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIlIpOkRh2A
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIlIpOkRh2A)

"Sanders is the first self-described socialist to be elected to the U.S. Senate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

- The CPUSA actively supported Obama's campaign per their website (it has since been removed)

"Our Party actively supported Obama during the primary election."
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/858/1/39/

I saw it first hand when it was on the cpusa website. There are still some blogs that reference this. It has been removed from the CPUSA website.

- Obama's Platform is Very Much in Line with the Democratic Socialists of America...

Issue: Progressive Taxation
Obama's Platform: Yes
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Yes
Modern Liberals: Yes

Issue: Strong skepticism for capitalism
Obama's Platform: Yes
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Yes
Modern Liberals: Somewhat

Issue: Immigration
Obama's Platform: Less Restrictive
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Less Restrictive
Modern Liberals: Mostly Less Restrictive

Issue: Abortion
Obama's Platform: Pro Choice
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Pro Choice
Modern Liberals: Pro Choice

Issue: More Public Education / Less Private
Obama's Platform: Yes
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Yes
Modern Liberals: Yes

Issue: Same Sex Marriage
Obama's Platform: Yes
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Yes
Modern Liberals: Yes

Issue: Universal Healthcare
Obama's Platform: Yes
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Yes
Modern Liberals: Yes

Issue: More Regulation
Obama's Platform: Yes
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Yes
Modern Liberals: Mostly Yes

Issue: Free Trade
Obama's Platform: Mostly No
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Mostly No
Modern Liberals: Mostly Yes

Issue: Lower Defense Spending
Obama's Platform: Yes
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Yes
Modern Liberals: Mostly Yes

Issue: Gun Control
Obama's Platform: Strict
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Strict
Modern Liberals: Strict

Issue: More Environmental Protection Laws
Obama's Platform: Yes
Democratic Socialists & Social Democracy: Yes
Modern Liberals: Mostly Yes

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In its broadest sense, democratic socialism could refer to any attempts to bring about socialism through democratic means as opposed to violent insurrection. This can sometimes include social democracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism
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From the DSA's website:

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If I am going to devote time to politics, why shouldn’t I focus on something more immediate?

Although capitalism will be with us for a long time, reforms we win now—raising the minimum wage, securing a national health plan, and demanding passage of right-to-strike legislation—can bring us closer to socialism.

What can young people do to move the US towards socialism?

Schools, Colleges and Universities are important to American political culture. They are the places where ideas are formulated and policy discussed and developed. Being an active part of that discussion is a critical job for young socialists.

http://www.dsausa.org/pdf/widemsoc.pdf
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And this one is very disturbing:

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Private corporations seem to be a permanent fixture in the US, so why work towards socialism?

In the short term we can’t eliminate private corporations, but we can bring them under greater democratic control.

http://www.dsausa.org/pdf/widemsoc.pdf
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So if they say that in the short term they cannot eliminate private corporations, what does that say about the long term? Also, "greater democratic control" means more state control of corporations via regulations and taxation. That is their plan for the short term.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb18/mgabriel_2007/obamasoc.jpg

[No_Socialism]

I got a reply! Seriously:

"We didn't put everything into our reports. There is much more."

:popcorn:

[Dilloduck]

Im afraid Im' gonig to have to agree with Yurt on this one---no one sees communism as a threat to America. I'm guessing they see communism as something that will save those who cannot or will not compete in a capitalistic economy.

[Pale Rider]

Im afraid Im' gonig to have to agree with Yurt on this one---no one sees communism as a threat to America. I'm guessing they see communism as something that will save those who cannot or will not compete in a capitalistic economy.

Well I'll certainly disagree with both of you. The liberals who want womb to tomb government to take care of them might, but conservatives like me don't, and I mean we conservatives who have served in the military REALLY don't.

This country might be on the fast track down the toilet, but that sure doesn't mean there isn't a bunch of us left that would love to save it.

[Dilloduck]

Well I'll certainly disagree with both of you. The liberals who want womb to tomb government to take care of them might, but conservatives like me don't, and I mean we conservatives who have served in the military REALLY don't.

This country might be on the fast track down the toilet, but that sure doesn't mean there isn't a bunch of us left that would love to save it.

There are a bunch of us left (and we all aren't veterans) but I don't think there are enough to stop the slide into the pit.

[Pale Rider]

There are a bunch of us left (and we all aren't veterans) but I don't think there are enough to stop the slide into the pit.

Well... I can agree with that. Our future does look very dismal at times. I just had to say something in response to the "no one" reference.

I know you're a good man dillo... I put you in the "we care" crowd.

[No_Socialism]

Unbelievable! The band that opened for Obama's Oregon rally (The Decemberists) is named after an 1825 revolt over the Imperial Russian succession (Decembrist revolt) that Meloy views as an attempted communist revolution. They also open many of their shows by playing the Soviet National Anthem! I kid you not...

http://pajamasmedia.com/files/2008/05/atbashian1.jpg


http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/communists-for-obama/ (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/communists-for-obama/)

Google It (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%27Decemberists+soviet%27&btnG=Google+Search)

[Pale Rider]

And we're hearing any of this from the MSM why? Oh that's right... hussein is their messiah, and what he has done and who he really is makes no difference to them. He's not George Bush.

[Dilloduck]

He's not George Bush.

That's all they need to say really but it's sounds a bit too trite. :laugh2:

[ranger]

I worry because no socialist country has survived the economic problems. I mean none of the citizens have. The elitists running the place have a fun time.

[manu1959]

I worry because no socialist country has survived the economic problems. I mean none of the citizens have. The elitists running the place have a fun time.

the northern european countries seem to do pretty well......

anyway i was listening to the radio today and they were speaking of obama's admiration for his mother and how he uses her for his political compas and touchstone and then they go on to talk about her communist bent and that he spent most of of his youth outside of the us and away from the black experience.....

[No_Socialism]

BARACK OBAMA HID HIS FATHER'S SOCIALIST AND ANTI-WESTERN CONVICTIONS FROM HIS READERS

There's a big mystery at the heart of Barack Obama's Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance. What was Barack Obama doing seeking out Marxist professors in college? Why did Obama choose a Communist Party USA member as his socio- political counselor in high school? Why was he spending his time studying neocolonialism and the writings of Frantz Fanon, the pro-violence author of "the Communist Manifesto of neocolonialsm", in college? Why did he take time out from his studies at Columbia to attend socialist conferences at Cooper Union?

And there is more mystery in the book. Why does Obama consider working in a consulting house for international business like being "a spy behind enemy lines?" Why does he repeatedly find it so hard to explain his political views to others? Why was he driven to become a left-aligned political organizer? It's a question Obama again and again can't seem to answer to the satisfaction of the interlocutors in his own memoir.

...continued...

http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/04/gregs-guide-to-barack-obamas-d.html

[Pale Rider]

The more I hear about this sons a bitch hussein, and the more I hear him speak, the more I actually hate this prick, and I'm starting to get the distinct impression that all this dirt on this little American hating, racist, ass wad is just the tip of the iceberg.

[ranger]

He's a socialist through and through and if he gets in office, the country will go into the tank, big time.

[namvet]

Osama is FUBAR

[No_Socialism]

I'm asking illuminatitv (http://www.youtube.com/user/illuminatitv) and Glenn Beck to cover Obama's Marxist past...

Here are the sources:

1. Obama's Father Was a Socialist
http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/04/gregs-guide-to-barack-obamas-d.html

2. Obama's Mother Sought Out Marxist Teachers
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0703270151mar27,0,5157609.story?page=1
(http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0703270151mar27,0,5157609.story?page=1)
3. Obama's teen Mentor was Frank Marshall Davis (a known communist)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/

4. Obama Attended Socialist Conferences at Cooper Union
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/01/14/2007-01-14_obamas_quiet_yrs_in_nyc_pols_rise_stuns_.html
(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/01/14/2007-01-14_obamas_quiet_yrs_in_nyc_pols_rise_stuns_.html)
5. Obama was hand picked by Alice Palmer, a known communist, to succeed her in the Illinois state senate
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

6. Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Bill Ayers' and Bernardine Dorhn's Chicago home. Ayers is a former terrorist from the Weather Underground and communist
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf

7. Obama attended several meetings with the Democratic Socialists in Chicago
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-international-socialist-connections/
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/

8. Obama endorsed openly socialist senator Bernie Sanders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIlIpOkRh2A

9. The Chicago Democratic Socialists Endorsed Obama
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html

10. The Communist Party USA Endorsed Obama:

"Our Party actively supported Obama during the primary election."
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/858/1/39/

(This line has since been removed from the CPUSA website)

11. Obama's church is rooted in black liberation theology, liberation theology is rooted in Marxism (you already covered this)

12. The band that opened for Obama's Oregon rally (The Decemberists) is named after an 1825 revolt over the Imperial Russian succession (Decembrist revolt) that Meloy views as an attempted communist revolution. They also open many of their shows by playing the Soviet National Anthem...
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/communists-for-obama/

There are many more references, you can get to a lot of them via the links provided above.

[No_Socialism]

Jeez, his mom was a commie too!

"Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report. Many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice. Ann Dunham met and married the Kenyan economics student Barack Obama, Sr, at the University of Hawaii in 1960, and in 1967 married the Indonesian student Lolo Soetero. It is unclear why Soetero's student visa was revoked in 1967 - the fact but not the cause are noted in press accounts. But it is probable that the change in government in Indonesia in 1967, in which the leftist leader Sukarno was deposed, was the motivation. "
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/front_page/jb26aa01.html

[Classact]

Jeez, his mom was a commie too!

"Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report. Many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice. Ann Dunham met and married the Kenyan economics student Barack Obama, Sr, at the University of Hawaii in 1960, and in 1967 married the Indonesian student Lolo Soetero. It is unclear why Soetero's student visa was revoked in 1967 - the fact but not the cause are noted in press accounts. But it is probable that the change in government in Indonesia in 1967, in which the leftist leader Sukarno was deposed, was the motivation. "
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/front_page/jb26aa01.htmlYou are my new hero, I've stolen all your great work and used it on this site and I have the target rich liberal site tied in knots here: http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16825&pid=246585&st=0&#entry246585

Anyone with time to burn in need of liberal targets please join in with me and share the fun on both sites! These guys have a radio station and I bet they don't talk about my posts there.

[No_Socialism]

You are my new hero, I've stolen all your great work and used it on this site...

Yes, please everybody that cares about this country GET THE WORD OUT! Use whatever info I have posted here. E-mail it, post it, whatever!!!

:salute:

[No_Socialism]

You are my new hero, I've stolen all your great work and used it on this site and I have the target rich liberal site tied in knots here: http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16825&pid=246585&st=0&#entry246585

Anyone with time to burn in need of liberal targets please join in with me and share the fun on both sites! These guys have a radio station and I bet they don't talk about my posts there.

Why did they close your post? You have Obama Loving Mods over there that couldn't handle the truth?

[No_Socialism]

Check this blog out. Look at the HUGE list of reasons to not vote for Obama in the left frame.

http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/comrade-obamas-growing-list-of.html

Simply amazing that anyone could vote for this guy in good conscious.

[No_Socialism]

Another article on this:

Barack Obama's communist connections (http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/080526)

[theHawk]

Well... I can agree with that. Our future does look very dismal at times. I just had to say something in response to the "no one" reference.

I know you're a good man dillo... I put you in the "we care" crowd.

There aren't many poeple at all that really believe socialism and communism to be a real threat to our freedoms. These people that call themselves "progressives", usually hold a very cynical view of America, and are in turn apathetic to the socialist movement. Many of them are nothing more than shitbag liberals who really despise capitalism and Christianity.

While I don't believe the majority of America holds this view, they do seem to be content on being lead down that path by those leftist extremists. Either most don't realize what a dangerous path this is, or they simply refuse to believe our great country can eventually fall to the forces of socialism and marxism. I think it has largely to do with the successful propaganda war the left wing media has waged agaisnt the Republicans. People see the Republicans as being corrupt, and hypocrits as well. The media has largely been successful in translating those Republican failures into conservative failures.

Its really quite disturbing to see these "progressives" and liberals treat Obama with such fanfare. There are posters and t-shirts with his image on it, reminiscent of the propaganda of socialst, communist, and totalitarian leaders. This assclown has the background of a total liberal partisan hack, yet is touted as the one who will 'reach across the isle'. He has openly admited stances which contradict the constitution, such as strict gun control and a federal government takeover of the health care industry. Instead of there being outrage he is being praised for these stances, not just by the moonbat kooks, but also by the large amount of apathetic "progressives".

[No_Socialism]

Another article on this:

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The candidates and the communists [forgotten but not gone]

Sen. McCain’s communist connections consist of bombing the communists during the Vietnam War and then being shot down, badly injured, captured, and tortured by them. On the other hand, Sen. Barack Obama was mentored by an identified Communist Party member in Hawaii who had functioned as a Stalinist agent. That was before Obama developed cordial relationships with communist terrorists who openly supported the communist regime that tortured McCain and killed 58,000 of our fellow Americans.

Can we have some coverage of the contrast between the two candidates on Memorial Day? It’s not just a matter of McCain serving in the military and Obama not doing so. It’s a matter of which side they were on.

McCain was on the American side during the Vietnam War. He personally risked his life and carried out the U.S. policy of resisting the communist military conquest of South Vietnam. Obama had friendly associations with those who had been on the other side and they helped launch his political career in Chicago. Obama can’t solve this problem by occasionally wearing an American flag lapel pin.

Keep in mind that we are not talking about associating with those who simply opposed U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. Obama’s friends, such as Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, cheered for a communist victory and visited Havana, Cuba and Hanoi, North Vietnam to bring that about. Like his comrades in the communist Students for a Democratic Society, Tom Hayden of “Progressives for Obama” wrote a letter urging a communist military victory over the U.S. These were people who actually supported the enemy.

In the case of Frank Marshall Davis, Obama’s childhood mentor, we are dealing with someone who was on the communist side long before the Vietnam War. Davis supported Stalinist Russia even after the Hitler-Stalin pact. This relationship may help explain why Obama would leave Hawaii, associate with Marxist professors and attend socialist conferences in college (as he admits in his book, Dreams From My Father), and then associate with terrorists, communists, and socialists in Chicago, where he would launch his political career. Davis was a key influence over the young Obama, filling his head with anti-American thoughts.

Thanks to Joseph Farah’s WorldNetDaily and his excellent reporter, Jerome R. Corsi, many people are learning the basic facts about these relationships.

At an event sponsored by America’s Survival, Inc. [which I founded] an audience member wondered what the media reaction would be if it were discovered that a Republican presidential candidate had been mentored by a Nazi or fascist during his growing-up years. You and I know that it would be enough of a story that the candidate would be forced from the race. The candidate would be peppered with questions about this relationship at every turn. Reporters would be scrambling to dig up more details about this relationship.

But rather than focus on Davis, some in the liberal media are making fun of McCain’s war injuries. Brent Baker reveals that, during a report on the release of McCain’s medical records, Dr. Jon LaPook asserted on CBS News that “people” notice that McCain is “not able to raise his arm” and think “doesn’t that look funny?” Baker asked, “Who thinks McCain’s limitation, caused by an attack on him after his plane crashed in North Vietnam and he was denied medical care, looks funny? In what circles does CBS’s doctor travel?” The answer, of course, is the circle of Obama’s friends, where veteran correspondent Linda Douglass has now ended up. She has taken a job as a press secretary and adviser to Obama and previously worked for CBS News, ABC News, and National Journal.

Significantly, the basic facts of the Obama-Davis relationship were originally disclosed by Professor Gerald Horne, a contributing editor of the Communist Party journal Political Affairs, who talked about Obama coming under the influence of Davis during a speech at the reception of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) archives at the Tamiment Library at New York University.

Horne, a history professor at the University of Houston, noted that Davis, who had moved to Honolulu from Kansas in 1948 “at the suggestion of his good friend [and secret CPUSA member] Paul Robeson,” came into contact with Obama and his family. As Horne describes it, Davis “befriended” a “Euro-American family” that had “migrated to Honolulu from Kansas and a young woman from this family eventually had a child with a young student from Kenya East Africa who goes by the name of Barack Obama, who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago.”

However, in Obama’s 1995 book, Dreams from My Father, Frank Marshall Davis was identified only as “Frank.” Among other things, according to Obama’s own account, “Frank” told him that blacks had a reason to hate and that he should not believe all of that (expletive deleted) about the American way of life.

When one of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s supporters brought up the issue of Davis’s influence over Obama, by circulating an article I had written for AIM about Davis playing the role of Obama’s mentor, he was pilloried by the left-wing blogs. The reaction suggests awareness that the role of Davis in the formation of Obama’s political views could sink the candidate. They are desperate to keep this information suppressed.

Horne is not the only significant figure to talk about the influence of “Frank” on Obama. Dr. Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who knew and interviewed Davis and wrote a dissertation on his life and career, confirmed to me that the “Frank” is, in fact, Frank Marshall Davis.

Takara, an Obama supporter, confirmed that Davis was a significant influence over Obama during the three or four years that he attended the Punahou prep school. These would have been the years 1975-1979. She said Obama had been introduced to Davis by his grandfather, Stanley Dunham, who considered Davis a “strong black male figure” and thought he exerted a “positive” influence over the young man in his high-school years.

Asked why she thought Obama didn’t identify Davis in his book by his full name, she replied, “Maybe he didn’t want people delving into it.” She said that this could have had something to do with Davis’s lifestyle, rather than his politics. “Frank’s was a place where you could have drinks,” she said.

Yet, Obama has been open about some things—such as his past drug use. It is difficult to understand why he would not name “Frank” as Frank Marshall Davis simply because “Frank” drank or hosted people who did. It is apparent that Obama covered up his full name because of the notoriety surrounding Davis’s political views. Remember this was a black communist who stayed with the CPUSA even while others, such as Richard Wright and Langston Hughes, broke with it.

So how long will Obama’s cover-up persist?

There are many in the liberal and conservative media who want desperately to avoid this subject. The liberals want to protect Obama. The “conservatives” avoiding the subject don’t want to be accused of “McCarthyism” if they mention it. But thanks to WorldNetDaily and other new media outlets, the story is coming out and won’t be ignored.

The candidates and the communists [forgotten but not gone] (http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/ss_politics0173_05_25.asp)
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[Classact]

Why did they close your post? You have Obama Loving Mods over there that couldn't handle the truth?I made a post and at the end of the post I placed the picture of Obama with the sickle and hammer. They removed the picture and left a link to the picture and closed the post for mod review... guess they are still reviewing it.

[No_Socialism]

There is lots of FEAR I have been seeing from Obama supporters on this stuff. I even saw one that logged into a GOP website and tried to convince "other" conservatives that pointing out Obama's past communist & socialist connections made the GOP look bad!

This is all the more reason to GET THE MESSAGE OUT. Send this info to as many people that care about our freedom as you can!

[mundame]

Yes, please everybody that cares about this country GET THE WORD OUT! Use whatever info I have posted here. E-mail it, post it, whatever!!!

:salute:


Yes, I agree this is an issue that matters. Obama is the leftmost member of the United States Senate -------------------------

And somehow he's running for president??????

Ho, boy.

[GW in Ohio]

Investigators Release Reports on Obama's Communist Connections

Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (PDF) (http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf)
Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (PDF) (http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf)

Washington, DC- Two veterans of investigations into Communist influence on the U.S. political process have released two new explosive reports on Barack Obama's ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. The reports will shed important new light on Barack Obama's mysterious past.

WHO: Herbert Romerstein, an author and investigative journalist, served as an investigator for the much-feared U. S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, the House Committee on Internal Security, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was head of the Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation for the United States Information Agency. One of his recent books is the acclaimed THE VENONA SECRETS: EXPOSING SOVIET ESPIONAGE AND AMERICA'S TRAITORS.

Cliff Kincaid is an investigative journalist who specializes in analyzing the effects of communist and terrorist influence on the U.S. media. He is founder and president of America's Survival, Inc., and editor of Accuracy in Media's AIM Report. He is the author or coauthor of nine books, including WHY YOU CAN'T TRUST THE NEWS, and was instrumental in denying access to the U.S. media market to the Islamic terrorist Al-Jazeera television channel.

Major findings include:

o Barack Obama has been influenced, surrounded and backed by communists, socialists, and those sympathetic to the Arab/Palestinian cause in the Middle East.
o Obama has been in the middle of two international communist networks – one in Hawaii and one in Chicago.
o The Hawaii network included communists Frank Marshall Davis, who was Obama’s personal mentor; actor/singer Paul Robeson; and labor leader Harry Bridges. The network was judged a security threat to the United States and the subject of a congressional hearing on the “Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States.”
o The Hawaii communist network was organized directly by and from Moscow.
o Obama covered up the true identity of Frank Marshall Davis in his book, Dreams From My Father.
o The Chicago network included identified communists and socialists, was committed to a communist victory in the Vietnam War, and took instructions from the communist Castro regime in Cuba.
o In addition to communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who were members of the Weather Underground, the Chicago network includes many veterans of the communist Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) who now proclaim themselves “Progressives for Obama.”
o One of the leaders of “Progressives for Obama” is former SDS leader Tom Hayden, who wrote a letter to a communist Vietnamese official during the Vietnam War hoping for a “victory” over the U.S.
o Several SDS officials and the SDS itself had connections to the Communist Party USA.
o The SDS openly promoted communism, the regimes in Hanoi and Havana, and condemned alleged U.S. “imperialism.”
o There is evidence that Obama backer Bernardine Dohrn, who traveled to Cuba to meet with communist officials, was involved in a bombing that killed a policeman.
o Ayers, who helped launch Obama’s political career, has traveled to Venezuela on several occasions and is an enthusiastic backer of the brand of communism being practiced and promoted by Hugo Chavez.
o Ayers’ university office door and wall are plastered with communist, anti-Israel, and pro-Hugo Chavez propaganda.
o Bernardine Dohrn has participated in two events organized by the Open Society Institute of Obama backer and billionaire leftist George Soros.
o The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), a group that included a convicted espionage agent for communist East Germany, backed and promoted Obama’s political career.
o Obama spoke at a memorial service on behalf of a leading Chicago socialist activist.
o It appears that Obama actually worked for Ayers in a Chicago educational reform program that dispensed millions of dollars of grants.
o Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer, who picked Obama as her successor, has a record of involvement in communist front activities.
o Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod, as well as Obama himself, have not explained why Ayers, Dohrn, then-State Senator Alice Palmer, and Dr. Quentin Young came together at the Ayers/Dohrn home to launch Obama’s political career.
o Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, a client of Axelrod, issued a controversial and misleading statement defending Obama’s relationship with communist terrorist Bill Ayers.
o Illinois Lt. Governor Pat Quinn, another Axelrod client, designated “Quentin Young Day” in the state, in honor of an Obama supporter once questioned about his involvement in backing SDS activities and who was accused of being a CPUSA member. (Young refused to deny he was a CPUSA member before a congressional committee but during an informal interview said he had never joined the CPUSA).

You guys make me proud. You don't get any of that candy-ass rationality here....no pretense to sanity whatsoever.

You guys are full-bore, crazy-ass right-wing loonies.

And I'm so proud......:salute::cheers2::salute:

[glockmail]

I made a post and at the end of the post I placed the picture of Obama with the sickle and hammer. They removed the picture and left a link to the picture and closed the post for mod review... guess they are still reviewing it.
Don't hold your beath waiting for them to publish it. Free Speech doesn't matter to rabid Liberals.

[No_Socialism]

This is why I don't want socialism in this country:

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Venezuela scrambles for food despite oil boom

· Milk, eggs and sugar no longer available in shops
· Chávez's socialist policies are to blame, critics say

http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/11/13/venezuela372.jpg
Line outside a state-run market in Caracas, Venezuela. Photograph: Jorge Silva/Reuters

At first glance the supermarket off Avenida Francisco Miranda appeared to be a gourmet dream. Smoked salmon in the freezer. An aisle filled with Italian olive oil, balsamic vinegar and pesto. Another aisle stacked with Perrier, champagne and the finest Scotch.

But of milk, eggs, sugar and cooking oil there was no sign. Where were they? The question yesterday prompted a puzzled look from the manager. "There isn't any. Everybody knows that. Pasta is probably the next to go," he shrugged.

Welcome to Venezuela, a booming economy with a difference. Food shortages are plaguing the country at the same time that oil revenues are driving a spending splurge on imported luxury goods, prompting criticism of President Hugo Chávez's socialist policies.

Milk has all but vanished from shops. Distraught mothers ask how they are supposed to feed their infants. Many cafes and restaurants serve only black coffee.

Families say eggs and sugar are also a memory. "The last time I had them was September," said Marisol Perez, 51, a housewife in Petare, a sprawling barrio in eastern Caracas.

When supplies do arrive long queues form instantly. Purchases are rationed and hands are stamped to prevent cheating. The sight of a milk truck reportedly prompted a near-riot last week.

Up to a quarter of staple food supplies have been disrupted, according to Datanalisis, a public opinion and economic research group. To Chávez's detractors the scarcity is evidence that his revolutionary "21st century socialism" is driving South America's oil power towards ruin.

Government price controls on staple foods are so low that producers cannot make a profit, they say, and farms and businesses hesitate to invest in crops or machinery, or stockpile inventories, for fear of expropriations.

"We've warned about this from the beginning - all of these price controls in the long run end up producing shortages," Ismael Perez, of the industry group Conindustria, told Reuters.

The government says that shortages are exaggerated by the media and that they reflect greater spending power by the poor thanks to social programmes which have directed oil revenues into the slums .

Some 10,000 tonnes of imported milk will alleviate scarcity by Christmas and government-funded socialist cooperatives will boost domestic production in the long term, say officials.

Despite the problems Chávez remains popular and is expected to win a referendum next month which will abolish term limits, enabling him to stand for continuous re-election and fulfil his wish to stay in power until 2021 or even 2030. Some analysts warn that populist policies are aggravating the "oil curse" which floods oil producers with cash and makes it cheaper to import goods than to make them.

Well-connected people who can exploit the black market are fuelling a boom not only in luxury food and drink but also cars and holidays. Chávez has railed against the soaring imports of Scotch and Hummers, saying they undermined the effort to create a socialist "new man".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/nov/14/venezuela.international
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[Yurt]

it never ceases to amaze me how easily duped the masses are. this country has one of the highest standards of living in the entire world. our poor are wealthier than most "middle" income people in many countries, yet, our current system is wrong somehow. *shakes head*

[mundame]

Milk has all but vanished from shops. Distraught mothers ask how they are supposed to feed their infants.


They should have breast-fed; more fool them.

If you're gonna do socialism, you definitely have to go back to the basics.

[No_Socialism]

They should have breast-fed; more fool them.

If you're gonna do socialism, you definitely have to go back to the basics.

Ya, just plan on breast feeding them until they are teenagers... :laugh2:

[No_Socialism]

New Article:

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It’s the Communism, Stupid

The Weather Under-ground, or Weathermen, wasn’t just home-grown and domestic in nature, although it had evolved from the so-called Students for a Democratic Society.


Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to deflect a question about his relationship with terrorist Bill Ayers by saying that he “engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old” and that he was now a professor and a neighbor. The real issue is whether Obama shares Ayers’ communist views. Obama admitted to exchanging ideas with Ayers on an irregular basis but did not say what those ideas were. But we know that Ayers, rather than just being a 1960s “radical,” was a member of a Marxist-Leninist communist group.

The Weather Under-ground, or Weathermen, wasn’t just home-grown and domestic in nature, although it had evolved from the so-called Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), which laid siege to college campuses and tried to take over administration buildings. Their openly proclaimed goal was world communism and they had links to hostile foreign powers.

“We’re revolutionary communists,” Ayers himself said in 1969.

The FBI said that the Weather Underground had more contacts abroad than the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA.

EDIT: Read the rest here:
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/its-the-communism-stupid/
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[mundame]

I'm fairly impressed with all this.

I knew a lot of those SDS/Weatherman people back in the day, but haven't met any of them since Vietnam ended; but Obama seems to have had a lot of ongoing contact and big relationships with real communists and socialists. So I can say this sort of thing is actually quite rare (there aren't a lot of commies around).

He's finding them, though. I don't like it. Makes me nervous; I think Obama IS a socialist, actually-factually.

[No_Socialism]

New Article:

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Obama's communist ties investigated
Chad Groening - OneNewsNow - 5/30/2008

Barack Obama An investigative journalist and a national defense analyst are accusing Barack Obama of once having ties with members of the Communist Party USA.

Cliff Kincaid, president of America’s Survival, has teamed up with Herbert Romerstein, a former investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities. Both have compiled evidence of Obama's past ties with Communist Party figures.

Kincaid says while a teenager in Hawaii, Obama was mentored by a Communist Party USA member known as Frank Marshall Davis. "[H]e was a Stalinist agent. And this is a fellow who clearly had a major influence over a young Barack Obama," he points out.

Davis most likely filled Obama with anti-American thoughts and ideas, Kincaid contends.

Kincaid says their evidence then documents how Obama went off to college where he became friends with various Marxist professors and attended socialist conferences. After college, Obama returned to Chicago and began his political career. "And lo and behold, he lands right in the middle of another communist network," he continues.

According to Kincaid, this new association involved the former members of the Communist Students for a Democratic Society, and the Weather Underground terrorists Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers.

"[These people] ... launched Barack Obama's political career in their own home," he details. Kincaid hopes the media will ask Obama to explain his past associations with these individuals.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Printer.aspx?id=126368
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[No_Socialism]

Gotta start keeping track of all the articles:

Obama’s International Socialist Connections (http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-international-socialist-connections/)

Is Barack Obama A Marxist Mole? (http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/)

Report: Obama mentored by Communist Party figure (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066)

Communists for Obama (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/communists-for-obama/)

Comrade Obama's growing list of Communist influences (http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/comrade-obamas-growing-list-of.html)

BARACK OBAMA HID HIS FATHER'S SOCIALIST AND ANTI-WESTERN CONVICTIONS FROM HIS READERS (http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/04/gregs-guide-to-barack-obamas-d.html)

Barack Obama's communist connections (http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/080526)

The candidates and the communists [forgotten but not gone] (http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/ss_politics0173_05_25.asp)

It’s the Communism, Stupid (http://www.aim.org/aim-report/its-the-communism-stupid/)

Obama's communist ties investigated (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Printer.aspx?id=126368)

[No_Socialism]

One Obama supporter saw a lot of this info and said "Oh ya? Well if this is all true then why isn't it on Fox News?"

Answer:

1 - Perhaps they are saving this stuff for the general election. I doubt they want to help Hillary too much right now.

2 - They HAVE talked about some of it:

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[mundame]

One Obama supporter saw a lot of this info and said "Oh ya? Well if this is all true then why isn't it on Fox News?"



Fox is running a series on Hannity called "Real Barack Obama" and this Saturday and Sunday at 9PM Daniel Pipes (my hero) will discuss the connection between Barack and some Chicago Muslim named Rashid Khalidi.

I doubt it will be a program that flatters Obama. I expect to watch it.

[Abbey Marie]

One Obama supporter saw a lot of this info and said "Oh ya? Well if this is all true then why isn't it on Fox News?"
...


Maybe because Rupert Murdoch has admitted he likes Obama? :dunno:

[Hagbard Celine]

You guys are sad.

Does the phrase "paranoid McCarthyism" ring any bells? :rolleyes:

[mundame]

You guys are sad.

Does the phrase "paranoid McCarthyism" ring any bells? :rolleyes:


Joe McCarthy saved our country from European-type socialism.

[namvet]

Joe McCarthy saved our country from European-type socialism.

THE tail gunner joe???? who looked under every bed in America for commies????:laugh2:

[Hagbard Celine]

Joe McCarthy saved our country from European-type socialism.

Joe McCarthy instituted an era of fear and paranoia that was directly responsible for the imprisonment and ruin of hundreds of good Americans who had and have a right to believe in whatever political philosophy they want. He was a sinister, divisive character and we're well rid of him.
Also, to illustrate how ridiculous your statement is, take a look at present-day Europe and tell me which side is better off? Whose currency is worth more? Whose citizens have more benefits? Whose citizens are better educated?

[namvet]

I remember my parents laffing their butts off at everything about him in the papers. and so did the country

[No_Socialism]

You guys are sad.

Does the phrase "paranoid McCarthyism" ring any bells? :rolleyes:

Whether McCarthy "cried wolf" or not is up for debate...

But I think the evidence shows that Obama is a potential "wolf" and that needs to be looked into!

[No_Socialism]

Barack and Michelle's Marxist Quotes (Feel Free to Add to This List):

"They don't want the whole pie," she told the women. "There are some who do, but most Americans feel blessed just being able to thrive a little bit. But that is becoming even more out of reach. If we don't wake up as a nation with a new kind of leadership, for how we want this country to work, then we won't get universal health care. The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more."
- Michelle Obama

Commentary: Well I can't say it any better than Mr. Beck does:

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"So we're going to provide a $4,000 tuition credit, every student, every year, but, students, you're going to have to give back something in return. You're going to have to participate in community service. You're going to have to work in a homeless shelter, or a veteran's home, or an underserved school, or join the Peace Corps."
- Barack Obama

Commentary: So he wants to make "every student, every year" an employee of the state? And is this another step towards socializing higher education?

"And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns, or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiments as a way to explain their frustrations"
- Barack Obama

Commentary: Karl Marx famously claimed that religion was an opiate of the masses. He was explaining his view that the wealthy bourgeoise cynically used religion as a device to keep the poor, simple proletariat happy in their misery and squalor so they would find it immoral to rise up and overthrow their capitalists oppressors.

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,"
- Barack Obama

Commentory: Hmm, is this quote for Marxist or Fascist? I can't decide...

"It’s because you have an obligation to yourself. Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation."
- Barack Obama

"The great task before our founders was putting into practice the ideal that government could simultaneously serve liberty and advance the common good. and Government, he believed, had an important role to play in advancing our common prosperity."
- Barack Obama

Commentary: Collective before individual? Common prosperity? "In bourgeois (capitalist) society capital is independent and has individuality, while the living person is dependent and has no individuality." - Karl Marx

"I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets."
- Barack Obama (Dreams of My Father)

"Political discussions, the kind at Occidental had once seemed so intense and purposeful, came to take on the flavor of the socialist conferences I sometimes attended at Cooper Union"
- Barack Obama (Dreams of My Father)

Commentary: Nothing more to say here...

"Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness."
- Barack Obama

Commentary: No, not because it would increase revenue, but for "fairness". Yes that's right...punish success...

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs13/300W/f/2007/042/e/d/Socialism_by_miniamericanflags.jpg

I'll find more later...

Oh ya...and why is Socialism so bad anyway? This is why:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/nov/14/venezuela.international

[No_Socialism]

Educational vid on the dangers of "ism" (Communism, Socialism, Marxism)

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[glockmail]

I remember my parents laffing their butts off at everything about him in the papers. and so did the country That was the liberal way of dealing with McCarthy: demonize him and call him a joke. Lots of people fell for it. The reality is just what Mundame said. Thank God someone had the balls to do what needed to be done back then.

[No_Socialism]

Investigators Release Reports on Obama's Communist Connections

Videos from this conference have been released:

Part 1:

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Part 2:

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Part 3:

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Part 4:

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Part 5:

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Part 6:

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Part 7:

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Part 8:

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[No_Socialism]

Wow...check out this blog:

Socialism, Marxism, Communism & Obama
http://obamaism.blogspot.com/