Dems In A Tizzy Over Being Called Appeasers

[red states rule]

I guess the truth really does hurt - or do Dems have a guily conscience?


White House Denies Bush Targeted Obama in Speech to Israeli Knesset

snip

While Bush never mentioned Obama by name, “aggressive personal diplomacy” with Iran is an oft-stated proposal by Obama as a means to end that country’s support for insurgency in Iraq and its nuclear programs.

Obama swiftly criticized Bush for a “false political attack” and said the president’s foreign policy has failed to secure the U.S. or Israel.

“Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power — including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy — to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel,” Obama said.

Even Hillary Clinton, who has herself criticized Obama for his diplomatic positions, piled on.

“President Bush’s comparison of any Democrat to Nazi appeasers is both offensive and outrageous, on the face of it and especially in light of his failures in foreign policy,” she said. “This is the kind of statement that has no place in any presidential address and certainly to use an important moment like the 60th anniversary celebration of Israel to make a political point seems terribly misplaced.”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/15/white-house-denies-bush-targeted-obama-in-speech-to-israeli-knesset/

[manu1959]

the president’s foreign policy has failed to secure the U.S. or Israel.


really......i dont recall them being less secure than during the clinton years.....

pressure countries like Iran and Syria....


really why.....the failed sportscaster says they are not doing anything wrong....

[actsnoblemartin]

failed sportscaster :laugh2:

he is a failed human being, and a bitch


the president’s foreign policy has failed to secure the U.S. or Israel.


really......i dont recall them being less secure than during the clinton years.....

pressure countries like Iran and Syria....


really why.....the failed sportscaster says they are not doing anything wrong....

[red states rule]

Over at DNCTV Chris Matthews gave us a double play

First

Chris Matthews: Bush Sucker Punched Obama!
By Geoffrey Dickens | May 15, 2008 - 18:31 ET

On Thursday's "Hardball" Chris Matthews accused George W. Bush of delivering "a sucker punch" to Barack Obama in his speech to the Knesset. In the speech Bush warned against appeasing enemies, which Matthews took to be a cheap shot at the Illinois senator's willingness to talk to the leaders of hostile nations like Iran.

Matthews made the "sucker punch" remark on the May 15, "Hardball" in the following question to the "Dallas Morning News'" Wayne Slater:

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Let me ask you while you're up now Wayne, this question of the President. You've written about "Bush's Brain." What was he up to in the Knesset today with that, well you'd have to call it a sucker punch over there. In the Knesset, in Israel, which was, you know, so much to do with the Holocaust, let's be honest. In terms of the world and the way it looks, the necessity of a state of Israel, a Jewish state. And to go in there and basically accuse the Democrats of selling out the Jews of Europe. I mean an amazing charge right there in, in the homeland! Incredible!


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2008/05/15/chris-matthews-bush-sucker-punched-obama


Then........


Matthews Rips Guest For Ignorance of History, Then Claims Cole Attack Happened Under Bush
By Mark Finkelstein | May 15, 2008 - 18:26 ET

A Hardball epic . . .

Message to Chris Matthews: when ripping a guest for his lack of historical knowledge, try to avoid making a history mistake of your own in the same segment.

It happened on this afternoon's Hardball. After lambasting a guest for not knowing his Neville Chamberlain history, Matthews surmised that the attack on the USS Cole in October, 2000 happened under . . . President Bush.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/05/15/matthews-rips-guest-ignorance-history-then-claims-cole-attack-happ

[actsnoblemartin]

Matthews holds obama's jock strap, and thats only because obama wont let him hold something else :laugh2:

[red states rule]

Matthews holds obama's jock strap, and thats only because obama wont let him hold something else :laugh2:

Matthews clone, MFM, already has that job :laugh2:

[retiredman]

again...so Obama is an appeaser for wanting to talk to Hamas...and that is because they are a "terrorist organization" that is fighting against Israel, our ally, and has stated that they hold us accountable for our unwavering support for Israel.

Before General Petraeus got to Iraq, sunni militias were using terrorist tactics to kill not only civilian shiites in Iraq, but also to kill American soldiers. The blood of Americans was still dripping wet from their hands. And then...over the course of few months, that began to change.

Iraqi sunnis quit setting IEDs to blow up American vehicles...Iraqi sunnis quit ambushing American patrols... Iraqi sunnis militiamen and warlords decided to turn their attention on Al Qaeda in Iraq and to HELP Americans... and we responded by arming them and paying them.

What happened to facilitate that change? What happened to make the United States give weapons to the very men that had killed our troops mere months before?

I'll tell you: Petraeus started TALKING to them... and they listened. That's what. Petraeus and his staff were actually sitting down and talking with terrorist thugs with fresh American blood on their hands. He convinced them that Al Qaeda was hurting them and we would not. And as a result of talking to terrorists, we got them to stop killing us and to stop killing their countrymen and women and start killing our enemies instead. Imagine that!

A General working for a republican president talks to our enemies - the very terrorists who killed our troops - and HE is a hero... A democratic presidential candidate who pledges to similarly talk to our enemies is an appeasing fool?

typical bullshit from the Bush cum-gargling crowd.

[red states rule]

The liberal media must be worried about something. Barry was not named in the speech, and all the Barry lovers are jumping to his defense

Again, what is the problem? Given the Dems track record it has to be a guilty conscience

[manu1959]

Obama was just quoted as saying he would never negotiate with a terrorist organization ......




again...so Obama is an appeaser for wanting to talk to Hamas...and that is because they are a "terrorist organization" that is fighting against Israel, our ally, and has stated that they hold us accountable for our unwavering support for Israel.

Before General Petraeus got to Iraq, sunni militias were using terrorist tactics to kill not only civilian shiites in Iraq, but also to kill American soldiers. The blood of Americans was still dripping wet from their hands. And then...over the course of few months, that began to change.

Iraqi sunnis quit setting IEDs to blow up American vehicles...Iraqi sunnis quit ambushing American patrols... Iraqi sunnis militiamen and warlords decided to turn their attention on Al Qaeda in Iraq and to HELP Americans... and we responded by arming them and paying them.

What happened to facilitate that change? What happened to make the United States give weapons to the very men that had killed our troops mere months before?

I'll tell you: Petraeus started TALKING to them... and they listened. That's what. Petraeus and his staff were actually sitting down and talking with terrorist thugs with fresh American blood on their hands. He convinced them that Al Qaeda was hurting them and we would not. And as a result of talking to terrorists, we got them to stop killing us and to stop killing their countrymen and women and start killing our enemies instead. Imagine that!

A General working for a republican president talks to our enemies - the very terrorists who killed our troops - and HE is a hero... A democratic presidential candidate who pledges to similarly talk to our enemies is an appeasing fool?

typical bullshit from the Bush cum-gargling crowd.

[retiredman]

The liberal media must be worried about something. Barry was not named in the speech, and all the Barry lovers are jumping to his defense

Again, what is the problem? Given the Dems track record it has to be a guilty conscience


what about Petraeus talking to the very terrorists who killed our troops? he must be an appeaser too, eh RSR?

[red states rule]

Obama was just quoted as saying he would never negotiate with a terrorist organization ......

Wonder how long that poilcy will be in place? At least until they have a chance to take a few polls and focus groups to see how it plays with the kook left

[actsnoblemartin]

what about Petraeus talking to the very terrorists who killed our troops? he must be an appeaser too, eh RSR?

:link: :link: :link:

[retiredman]

Obama was just quoted as saying he would never negotiate with a terrorist organization ......

but Petraeus does and he's a hero?

care to explain that for me?

[retiredman]

:link: :link: :link:

excuse me. Are you suggesting that the sunni warlords in Iraq, who had previously been attacking and killing our troops, just decided to befriend us and we just decided to give them money and weapons so they could fight Al Qaeda in Iraq in the months after Petraeus got there and he never spoke with them about it? Are you suggesting that Petraeus just decided to start giving the folks who had attacked us more weapons without negotiating with them? Is that really what you are saying, martin? really??

[actsnoblemartin]

again...so Obama is an appeaser for wanting to talk to Hamas...and that is because they are a "terrorist organization" that is fighting against Israel, our ally, and has stated that they hold us accountable for our unwavering support for Israel.

:laugh2: hold on i cant stop laughing, hamas holds us accountable, since when

:lol:

Is obama an appeaser you ask, well what would you call meeting with hitler like people?

Before General Petraeus got to Iraq, sunni militias were using terrorist tactics to kill not only civilian shiites in Iraq, but also to kill American soldiers. The blood of Americans was still dripping wet from their hands. And then...over the course of few months, that began to change.

But the question is, do you believe we can we win the war now, not 6 months, not a year ago, not before the war, i wish we had :poke: a time machine, but we dont, so we have to deal with the realities on the ground NOW

Iraqi sunnis quit setting IEDs to blow up American vehicles...Iraqi sunnis quit ambushing American patrols... Iraqi sunnis militiamen and warlords decided to turn their attention on Al Qaeda in Iraq and to HELP Americans... and we responded by arming them and paying them.

And, the problem with that is?

What happened to facilitate that change? What happened to make the United States give weapons to the very men that had killed our troops mere months before?

actually this is not un-common during wwII, russia and france were at first our enemy, then turned against the germans. Its not like this is the first time it happened

I'll tell you: Petraeus started TALKING to them... and they listened. That's what. Petraeus and his staff were actually sitting down and talking with terrorist thugs with fresh American blood on their hands. He convinced them that Al Qaeda was hurting them and we would not. And as a result of talking to terrorists, we got them to stop killing us and to stop killing their countrymen and women and start killing our enemies instead. Imagine that!

youre talking about muslims killing other muslims, and in many cases iraqis killing other iraqis vs iranians (muslims) killing americans (pre-dominantly christian soldiers)

I disagree with your premise

A General working for a republican president talks to our enemies - the very terrorists who killed our troops - and HE is a hero... A democratic presidential candidate who pledges to similarly talk to our enemies is an appeasing fool?

Again, I think youre comparing apples and oranges. and furthermore Presidents are not the same as generals.

typical bullshit from the Bush cum-gargling crowd.

Actually, I think youre the cum catching faggot :laugh2:

[actsnoblemartin]

excuse me.

youre excused :dance:

Are you suggesting that the sunni warlords in Iraq, who had previously been attacking and killing our troops, just decided to befriend us and we just decided to give them money and weapons so they could fight Al Qaeda in Iraq

NO, but i think the situation is different as i said in a different thread. Now, im NOT calling obama an appeaser, stupid maybe :laugh2: but not an appeaser

in the months after Petraeus got there and he never spoke with them about it? Are you suggesting that Petraeus just decided to start giving the folks who had attacked us more weapons without negotiating with them? Is that really what you are saying, martin? really??

No, my argument is quite different, as on another thread, they are similar, but different.


and finally, I dont see talks with iran leading to anything, for the last thirty years, I believe iran was/is preparing for a confrontation and wont stop till they get it

[Little-Acorn]

I guess the truth really does hurt - or do Dems have a guily conscience?


White House Denies Bush Targeted Obama in Speech to Israeli Knesset

snip

While Bush never mentioned Obama by name, “aggressive personal diplomacy” with Iran is an oft-stated proposal by Obama as a means to end that country’s support for insurgency in Iraq and its nuclear programs.

Obama swiftly criticized Bush for a “false political attack” and said the president’s foreign policy has failed to secure the U.S. or Israel.

“Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power — including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy — to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel,” Obama said.

Even Hillary Clinton, who has herself criticized Obama for his diplomatic positions, piled on.

“President Bush’s comparison of any Democrat to Nazi appeasers is both offensive and outrageous, on the face of it and especially in light of his failures in foreign policy,” she said. “This is the kind of statement that has no place in any presidential address and certainly to use an important moment like the 60th anniversary celebration of Israel to make a political point seems terribly misplaced.”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/15/white-house-denies-bush-targeted-obama-in-speech-to-israeli-knesset/

Throw a stone into a pack of dogs, and you can tell which one it hits by who yelps the loudest. :poke:

[retiredman]

hold on i cant stop laughing, hamas holds us accountable, since when

stop laughing:

In 2003, Hamas declared President Bush "Islam's biggest enemy" and in 2004 it called him "the enemy of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims." A 2004 press release announced Hamas considers the U.S as an enemy and as an accomplice to the Israeli enemy aggression against the Palestinians. … The U.S will face responsibility for its position as an accomplice with Israel."
......
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2582

Is obama an appeaser you ask, well what would you call meeting with hitler like people?


followed by...

Now, im NOT calling obama an appeaser, stupid maybe but not an appeaser


moron...but wait..the moron has MORE:

during wwII, russia and france were at first our enemy, then turned against the germans

France was NEVER our enemy in WWII. France was invaded by the germans. We landed at normandy to liberate them. idiot. stick to porn...you obviously know shit about history.

but wait...even MORE:

youre talking about muslims killing other muslims, and in many cases iraqis killing other iraqis vs iranians (muslims) killing americans (pre-dominantly christian soldiers)


so you think that Iraqi sunnis weren't killing any Americans in Iraq and the GI's were all being killed by IRANIANS???? :laugh2: moron...

the POINT is.... Bush's administration is already talking with Iranians. Bush's generals are already talking with terrorist groups who had been slaughtering our troops in Iraq.... and that is, from your twisted perspective, just marvelous....but when Obama says he plans on talking with the Iranians - like Rice and Gates are already doing - or talking with terrorist organizations - like Petraeus has already done and continues to do - he is somehow an "appeaser" or "stupid".

Newsflash martin: YOU are stupid and if you were on a board other than one filled with forgiving conservative buddies of yours, you'd be eaten alive. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Really. stick to porn. Go to the lounge and start threads about music and love and girlfriends and jergens and porn...leave the discussions of foreign policy to folks with enough intellect to keep up.

[actsnoblemartin]

The rantings of a 3 year old, and you wonder why people dont respect you :poke:


hold on i cant stop laughing, hamas holds us accountable, since when

stop laughing:

In 2003, Hamas declared President Bush "Islam's biggest enemy" and in 2004 it called him "the enemy of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims." A 2004 press release announced Hamas considers the U.S as an enemy and as an accomplice to the Israeli enemy aggression against the Palestinians. … The U.S will face responsibility for its position as an accomplice with Israel."
......
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2582

Is obama an appeaser you ask, well what would you call meeting with hitler like people?


followed by...

Now, im NOT calling obama an appeaser, stupid maybe but not an appeaser


moron...but wait..the moron has MORE:

during wwII, russia and france were at first our enemy, then turned against the germans

France was NEVER our enemy in WWII. France was invaded by the germans. We landed at normandy to liberate them. idiot. stick to porn...you obviously know shit about history.

but wait...even MORE:

youre talking about muslims killing other muslims, and in many cases iraqis killing other iraqis vs iranians (muslims) killing americans (pre-dominantly christian soldiers)


so you think that Iraqi sunnis weren't killing any Americans in Iraq and the GI's were all being killed by IRANIANS???? :laugh2: moron...

the POINT is.... Bush's administration is already talking with Iranians. Bush's generals are already talking with terrorist groups who had been slaughtering our troops in Iraq.... and that is, from your twisted perspective, just marvelous....but when Obama says he plans on talking with the Iranians - like Rice and Gates are already doing - or talking with terrorist organizations - like Petraeus has already done and continues to do - he is somehow an "appeaser" or "stupid".

Newsflash martin: YOU are stupid and if you were on a board other than one filled with forgiving conservative buddies of yours, you'd be eaten alive. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Really. stick to porn. Go to the lounge and start threads about music and love and girlfriends and jergens and porn...leave the discussions of foreign policy to folks with enough intellect to keep up.

[retiredman]

the points I made are a little too tough for you aren't they marty?

go off to the lounge and denigrate rap music for a while. leave foreign policy alone. you are too stupid to discuss this.

[actsnoblemartin]

I love how you call people who disagree names, and denigrate them, and then expect them to be civil with you

Sorry mate, im not sinking to your level but nice try.

I dont debate people who call others names as much as they breathe.

But Nice try mate :laugh2:


the points I made are a little too tough for you aren't they marty?

go off to the lounge and denigrate rap music for a while. leave foreign policy alone. you are too stupid to discuss this.

[Kathianne]

Bush never mentioned Obama. Why would Obama assume he was the crux of Bush statement? Only he knows why.

[retiredman]

I love how you call people who disagree names, and denigrate them, and then expect them to be civil with you

Sorry mate, im not sinking to your level but nice try.

I dont debate people who call others names as much as they breathe.

But Nice try mate :laugh2:


I have zero expectations of your civility towards me...you have proven yourself to be incapable of any sort of intelligent control....emphasis on intelligent.

run away to the lounge. please. you can't address any of the points I made that shredded your previous two posts. don't even try.

[retiredman]

Bush never mentioned Obama. Why would Obama assume he was the crux of Bush statement? Only he knows why.

oh yeah.... all the attacks on Obama for saying he'd talk with Iran... and talk with Hamas... it really is inconceivable how he might make that connection. It is also inconceivable how every major network has also made that same connnection.... just baffling, it is!

[actsnoblemartin]

yes your holiness :laugh:, should i bow down and kiss your ring too :banana:


I have zero expectations of your civility towards me...you have proven yourself to be incapable of any sort of intelligent control....emphasis on intelligent.

run away to the lounge. please. you can't address any of the points I made that shredded your previous two posts. don't even try.

[retiredman]

yes your holiness :laugh:, should i bow down and kiss your ring too :banana:


no. but if you wanted to be treated like something other than a moronic oddity, you might try either addressing and countering the points I made or admitting that my points are, in fact, valid.

[Kathianne]

oh yeah.... all the attacks on Obama for saying he'd talk with Iran... and talk with Hamas... it really is inconceivable how he might make that connection. It is also inconceivable how every major network has also made that same connnection.... just baffling, it is!

I can see why he would assume others assume he's an appeaser. What isn't clear is that Bush was directing any of it towards him, as there is a long list from both parties to whom the remarks could reflect.

[retiredman]

I can see why he would assume others assume he's an appeaser. What isn't clear is that Bush was directing any of it towards him, as there is a long list from both parties to whom the remarks could reflect.

and if it weren't an election year, and if Obama weren't the presumed nominee, you might have more of a point.

[Kathianne]

and if it weren't an election year, and if Obama weren't the presumed nominee, you might have more of a point.

Good try at diversion. Like his middle name, he self-identified.

[actsnoblemartin]

I get it you think im a moron, but if im such a moron, why do you responding to me, :coffee:


no. but if you wanted to be treated like something other than a moronic oddity, you might try either addressing and countering the points I made or admitting that my points are, in fact, valid.

I love how you think people respond to being called names.

[retiredman]

I get it you think im a moron, but if im such a moron, why do you responding to me, :coffee:



guilty pleasure. if you hadn't neg repped me so often, I would probably not bother...but you set yourself up for it so well, and you so deserve it. I realize it really is like mugging a cripple, but I can't help myself!:laugh2:

[Yurt]

the "preacher" mfm rips martin about porn yet it is clear that mfm is the one with closet porn issues...and it looks like gay porn issues



typical bullshit from the Bush cum-gargling crowd.

you're freakin sick dude...

[bullypulpit]

I guess the truth really does hurt - or do Dems have a guily conscience?


White House Denies Bush Targeted Obama in Speech to Israeli Knesset

snip

While Bush never mentioned Obama by name, “aggressive personal diplomacy” with Iran is an oft-stated proposal by Obama as a means to end that country’s support for insurgency in Iraq and its nuclear programs.

Obama swiftly criticized Bush for a “false political attack” and said the president’s foreign policy has failed to secure the U.S. or Israel.

“Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power — including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy — to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel,” Obama said.

Even Hillary Clinton, who has herself criticized Obama for his diplomatic positions, piled on.

“President Bush’s comparison of any Democrat to Nazi appeasers is both offensive and outrageous, on the face of it and especially in light of his failures in foreign policy,” she said. “This is the kind of statement that has no place in any presidential address and certainly to use an important moment like the 60th anniversary celebration of Israel to make a political point seems terribly misplaced.”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/15/white-house-denies-bush-targeted-obama-in-speech-to-israeli-knesset/

Hmmm...Appeasers just like Chimpy's grandpa, Prescott Bush and his great-grandpa Samuel Prescott Bush? Oh, and let's not forget Prescott's involvement in a plot to establish a fascist dictatorship in America either.

Just one of the last in a series of cheap shots and attempts to play the fear card by Chimpy McPresident and his morally bankrupt administration.

[Kathianne]

Hmmm...Appeasers just like Chimpy's grandpa, Prescott Bush and his great-grandpa Samuel Prescott Bush? Oh, and let's not forget Prescott's involvement in a plot to establish a fascist dictatorship in America either.

Just one of the last in a series of cheap shots and attempts to play the fear card by Chimpy McPresident and his morally bankrupt administration.

Pssst, Bush isn't running this time.

[retiredman]

the "preacher" mfm rips martin about porn yet it is clear that mfm is the one with closet porn issues...and it looks like gay porn issues



you're freakin sick dude...

have all these guys retained you as counsel?

or are you just obsessed, you fucking queer?
:laugh2:

[manu1959]

have all these guys retained you as counsel?

or are you just obsessed, you fucking queer?
:laugh2:

do you have a problem with gay people......

[actsnoblemartin]

have all these guys retained you as counsel?

no, but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see how fake and evil you are :dance:

or are you just obsessed, you fucking queer?
:laugh2:

Youre the one talking about another man's ball, im sure i can speak for yurt when I say he is not interested :laugh2:

[manu1959]

Hmmm...Appeasers just like Chimpy's grandpa, Prescott Bush and his great-grandpa Samuel Prescott Bush? Oh, and let's not forget Prescott's involvement in a plot to establish a fascist dictatorship in America either.

Just one of the last in a series of cheap shots and attempts to play the fear card by Chimpy McPresident and his morally bankrupt administration.

so is being an appeaser a good thing or a bad thing then.....you forgot joe kennedy......and clinton.......and carter.....

[retiredman]

Youre the one talking about another man's ball, im sure i can speak for yurt when I say he is not interested :laugh2:


it's an idiom, you retard!:laugh2:

[Yurt]

have all these guys retained you as counsel?

or are you just obsessed, you fucking queer?
:laugh2:

uh, you're the one talking about cum...and rsr's balls homo...you make a sick comment like that, what do you expect closet freak

[actsnoblemartin]

you act is getting stale :laugh2:, you need some new material :dance:


it's an idiom, you retard!:laugh2:

[actsnoblemartin]

mfm is divorced from reality.


uh, you're the one talking about cum...and rsr's balls homo...you make a sick comment like that, what do you expect closet freak

[manu1959]

it's an idiom, you retard!:laugh2:

are you intolerant of mentally challenged people now preacher man.....

[retiredman]

are you intolerant of mentally challenged people now preacher man.....


if I were intolerant of him, I'd put him on ignore.

[retiredman]

uh, you're the one talking about cum...and rsr's balls homo...you make a sick comment like that, what do you expect closet freak

oh...you have certainly lived (up) to my expectations. My wife has long ago learned to live with my sailor's vocabulary. I guess nancyboys like you don't get much exposure to stuff like that.

[Yurt]

oh...you have certainly lived (up) to my expectations. My wife has long ago learned to live with my sailor's vocabulary. I guess nancyboys like you don't get much exposure to stuff like that.

cum gargler....you say that to your wife? or just those private times in the closet

[manu1959]

if I were intolerant of him, I'd put him on ignore.

i asked why you are intollerant of mentally challenged people.....you use deragatory terms like retard and gay as insults.....seems odd for a preacher and a liberal exposing acceptance and tollerance of his fellow man to use biggoted slurs like those.....

[retiredman]

i asked why you are intollerant of mentally challenged people.....you use deragatory terms like retard and gay as insults.....seems odd for a preacher and a liberal exposing acceptance and tollerance of his fellow man to use biggoted slurs like those.....

I am not intolerant of mentally challenged people. I am intolerant of obnoxious people of any level of intellect.

when the gang of nancyboys all neg reps me, they should not be surprised when I don't invite them over for tea and crumpets!

[Silver]

cum gargler....you say that to your wife? or just those private times in the closet

I didn't bother reading the thread. Whats it about ? Couples pet names?:lol:

[manu1959]

I am not intolerant of mentally challenged people. I am intolerant of obnoxious people of any level of intellect.

when the gang of nancyboys all neg reps me, they should not be surprised when I don't invite them over for tea and crumpets!

why do you use derogatory, biggoted intolerant terms like nancyboy......

[Silver]

I'm afraid to ask..whose wife is a 'cum gargler' ?:lol:

[retiredman]

why do you use derogatory, biggoted intolerant terms like nancyboy......

because they are accurately descriptive.

[actsnoblemartin]

I am not intolerant of mentally challenged people... RETARDS

thats like saying im not against blacks....N*^#$ers


I am not intolerant of mentally challenged people. I am intolerant of obnoxious people of any level of intellect.

when the gang of nancyboys all neg reps me, they should not be surprised when I don't invite them over for tea and crumpets!

[manu1959]

because they are accurately descriptive.

ah....so if i call hillary a bitch, teddy k a drunk, kerry a gold digger, obama a nigger or you a drunken mic.....it is cool becasue they are acurately descriptive....thanks.....being a liberal is pretty cool.......

[actsnoblemartin]

the only thing that is accurate is that you have the same views of people with mental illness/physical disabilities as the nazi's did.

and youll say you dont, but the nazi's didnt start with killing, they started with
demonizing


because they are accurately descriptive.

[manu1959]

I am not intolerant of mentally challenged people... RETARDS

thats like saying im not against blacks....N*^#$ers

as long as they are accurately descriptive you are cool.....so calling a white dude a nigger ain't cool.....

[actsnoblemartin]

being a liberal is a lot of fun, you get to call blacks conservatives niggers, asian conservatives other racist names, white conservatives stupid, and so on and so on.


ah....so if i call hillary a bitch, teddy k a drunk, kerry a gold digger, obama a nigger or you a drunken mic.....it is cool becasue they are acurately descriptive....thanks.....being a liberal is pretty cool.......

[retiredman]

I am not intolerant of mentally challenged people... RETARDS

thats like saying im not against blacks....N*^#$ers

I am not intolerant of you because you are mentally retarded, martin. I am intolerant of you because you are an irrational, obnoxious, scatterbrained, fawning. insulting little worm.

If you were none of those things, I would be your friend and your guide and your helper. I would answer your questions and enlighten you about anything you asked me. But you apparently think that you know it all and think that you can get away with being all of those things and with insulting MY intelligence - which is, clearly, much greater than yours - and expect me to just ignore such behavior? sorry. I can't do that.

[actsnoblemartin]

i dont believe you can be a white nigger

you dont call a black man a kike or a cracker, yes, they can be part white, but common they are consider either black or nigger.

I dont believe you can act black either, you can ghetto or smart, regardless of race


as long as they are accurately descriptive you are cool.....so calling a white dude a nigger ain't cool.....

[retiredman]

ah....so if i call hillary a bitch, teddy k a drunk, kerry a gold digger, obama a nigger or you a drunken mic.....it is cool becasue they are acurately descriptive....thanks.....being a liberal is pretty cool.......

you need to step back a second and ask yourself why you have asked that same question of republicans who attack liberals. really.

[actsnoblemartin]

I am not intolerant of you because you are mentally retarded, martin.

First of all, if i were mentally retarded, I wouldnt be able to use a computer let alone make threads and posts. But go ahead pastor compassion, tell me what my mental conditions are having never met me. I never knew you were a man of god, and a psycologist or psychiatrist, and you had magic power to diagnose people over a computer,

I am intolerant of you because you are an irrational, obnoxious, scatterbrained, fawning. insulting little worm.

Then why call me a retard, its funny because thats like me I dont hate you cause your hispanic, SPICK..

why bring up my mental health status, since you dont have a clue what o.c.d., asburgers, or anxiety truly is.

Then why call me a retard.
If you were none of those things, I would be your friend and your guide and your helper. I would answer your questions and enlighten you about anything you asked me. But you apparently think that you know it all

Yes, can you find where i ever said, i know more then anyone?, i'd love to see that thread


and think that you can get away with being all of those things and with insulting MY intelligence

Well, youre not exactly acting like a genius. I mean how smart is it to pick a fight with someone you consider a retard?

- which is, clearly, much greater than yours

Yes, again youre magic powers come in handy. You magically know my i.q.

- and expect me to just ignore such behavior? sorry. I can't do that.

yes, you cant stop bringing up my mental health status, which has nothing to do with intelligence, i.e. i.q. or making derogatory remarks, and dont fucking lie, you have even recently said shit to rsr , about his cancer.

Your not worth my time, but then again, your such a genius, and feel so good about yourself you have to lie about my mental health.

[manu1959]

you need to step back a second and ask yourself why you have asked that same question of republicans who attack liberals. really.

come on republicans are stupid......libs are smart and better than republicans....it is why you can call peole nancyboys, retards and the like.....because you are smart and the words are acurately descriptive.....i wish i was as smart as you so i could call people retarded nancyboy niggers and not be a racist biggot.....

must be so cool to be you..........

[Silver]

i dont believe you can be a white nigger

you dont call a black man a kike or a cracker, yes, they can be part white, but common they are consider either black or nigger.

I dont believe you can act black either, you can ghetto or smart, regardless of race

You need to have a talk with that icon of Democratic politics, Sen. Byrd...he can tell you all about 'white niggers' .... he mentioned them in a TV interview a few years ago, but it didn't get much press....why? Because he's Democrat, of course..

[manu1959]

i dont believe you can be a white nigger

you dont call a black man a kike or a cracker, yes, they can be part white, but common they are consider either black or nigger.

I dont believe you can act black either, you can ghetto or smart, regardless of race

i am just a stupid mouthbreathing nancyboy retard from the suburbs....this is all too complicated for me....

[Gaffer]

again...so Obama is an appeaser for wanting to talk to Hamas...and that is because they are a "terrorist organization" that is fighting against Israel, our ally, and has stated that they hold us accountable for our unwavering support for Israel.

Before General Petraeus got to Iraq, sunni militias were using terrorist tactics to kill not only civilian shiites in Iraq, but also to kill American soldiers. The blood of Americans was still dripping wet from their hands. And then...over the course of few months, that began to change.

Iraqi sunnis quit setting IEDs to blow up American vehicles...Iraqi sunnis quit ambushing American patrols... Iraqi sunnis militiamen and warlords decided to turn their attention on Al Qaeda in Iraq and to HELP Americans... and we responded by arming them and paying them.

What happened to facilitate that change? What happened to make the United States give weapons to the very men that had killed our troops mere months before?

I'll tell you: Petraeus started TALKING to them... and they listened. That's what. Petraeus and his staff were actually sitting down and talking with terrorist thugs with fresh American blood on their hands. He convinced them that Al Qaeda was hurting them and we would not. And as a result of talking to terrorists, we got them to stop killing us and to stop killing their countrymen and women and start killing our enemies instead. Imagine that!

A General working for a republican president talks to our enemies - the very terrorists who killed our troops - and HE is a hero... A democratic presidential candidate who pledges to similarly talk to our enemies is an appeasing fool?

typical bullshit from the Bush cum-gargling crowd.

We need to keep this post and flag it. mfm says the surge is successful. Why? Because Petreaus talked with the sunni insurgents. That's the term he left out. The general didn't talk with terrorists he talked with insurgents. He got them to turn on the terrorists and exposed the terrorist for the thugs they were. With the sunni's subdued he's turning to the mahdi army. A little different as they are supported and commanded by iran.

[Yurt]

I am not intolerant of you because you are mentally retarded, martin. I am intolerant of you because you are an irrational, obnoxious, scatterbrained, fawning. insulting little worm.

If you were none of those things, I would be your friend and your guide and your helper. I would answer your questions and enlighten you about anything you asked me. But you apparently think that you know it all and think that you can get away with being all of those things and with insulting MY intelligence - which is, clearly, much greater than yours - and expect me to just ignore such behavior? sorry. I can't do that.

i told you that you are a megalomaniac...who do you think you are that you can guide, be a helper or enlighten anyone? you don't know jack...your intelligence is "clearly" MUCH GREATER...you are an arrogant ass and you are not that smart closet boy

you might just want to stay in the closet more

[retiredman]

i told you that you are a megalomaniac...who do you think you are that you can guide, be a helper or enlighten anyone? you don't know jack...your intelligence is "clearly" MUCH GREATER...you are an arrogant ass and you are not that smart closet boy

you might just want to stay in the closet more

I am in no closet goyim nancyboy.

I have enlightened martin on many issues surrounding the middle east on several occasions, but no doubt, his porn addled mini-brain has forgotten the lessons.

I know more than you about some topics. Less than you about others.

I know more than you about the conflict in the middle east. you know more than me about the desperate state of the central california legal "profession".

[Silver]

You delude yourself....thats like saying you know more about Italy because you eat alot of spaghetti....get over yourself

[Yurt]

I am in no closet goyim nancyboy.

I have enlightened martin on many issues surrounding the middle east on several occasions, but no doubt, his porn addled mini-brain has forgotten the lessons.

I know more than you about some topics. Less than you about others.

I know more than you about the conflict in the middle east. you know more than me about the desperate state of the central california legal "profession".

LOL....what an idiot, you know more than me...right....the only thing you know more than me is gay porn's greatest hits....

and nice slur with goyim dumbass...you realize it is a slur and that you are goyim as well... faggotty ann...

[retiredman]

LOL....what an idiot, you know more than me...right....the only thing you know more than me is gay porn's greatest hits....

and nice slur with goyim dumbass...you realize it is a slur and that you are goyim as well... faggotty ann...

make up your mind. you whine when I called you a jew, and now you whine when I make an distinct effort to call you a non-jew.

Like I said. I know more than you do about some things. Less than you do about others. I guess one of the things that fits into the former category is the understanding of what areas are in each.:laugh2:

[actsnoblemartin]

ok...


I am in no closet goyim nancyboy.

I have enlightened martin on many issues surrounding the middle east on several occasions, but no doubt, his porn addled mini-brain has forgotten the lessons.

We have talked on many occassions, but you are NOT the only one ive talked too, nor are you the only one to enlighten me. You can be smart and an asshole, you do realize that right.

And as i said, you may be a genius, honestly... but your acting stupid, there is a difference.

I know more than you about some topics. Less than you about others.

I know more than you about the conflict in the middle east. you know more than me about the desperate state of the central california legal "profession".

[actsnoblemartin]

you just love calling people names, reverend self-righteous


make up your mind. you whine when I called you a jew, and now you whine when I make an distinct effort to call you a non-jew.

Like I said. I know more than you do about some things. Less than you do about others. I guess one of the things that fits into the former category is the understanding of what areas are in each.:laugh2:

[retiredman]

I never said I had been your only guide. I said I had sincerely tried on several occasions to provide you with enlightenment THAT YOU HAD SOUGHT ME OUT FOR.

and as for "acting stupidly", I do not come here to make friends, but to debate ideas. Given the make up of this board, more often than not, I find myself dealing with some insulting folks... like your butt buddy RSR, and lately, you yourself, and little "yurtie" as you affectionately call him. I have zero patience for morons...especially ones that insult MY intelligence and MY patriotism. Wanna avoid my wrath? don't invoke it.

[manu1959]

I never said I had been your only guide. I said I had sincerely tried on several occasions to provide you with enlightenment THAT YOU HAD SOUGHT ME OUT FOR.

and as for "acting stupidly", I do not come here to make friends, but to debate ideas. Given the make up of this board, more often than not, I find myself dealing with some insulting folks... like your butt buddy RSR, and lately, you yourself, and little "yurtie" as you affectionately call him. I have zero patience for morons...especially ones that insult MY intelligence and MY patriotism. Wanna avoid my wrath? don't invoke it.

:laugh2:

[actsnoblemartin]

I never said I had been your only guide.

ok

I said I had sincerely tried on several occasions to provide you with enlightenment THAT YOU HAD SOUGHT ME OUT FOR.

and, do you want a cookie?. I dont like the way you act, youre so mean.

and as for "acting stupidly", I do not come here to make friends,

yet you want people to be civil with you

but to debate ideas. Given the make up of this board, more often than not, I find myself dealing with some insulting folks...

hmm, you think that might be because you insult them as well?, just a thought


like your butt buddy RSR,

do i look like rsr's spokesman?

and lately, you yourself,

Well, I admit im not the most civil towards you, i am upset with you

and little "yurtie" as you affectionately call him.
I have zero patience for morons...

and i have zero patience for assholes, who are intolerant of those they disagree with.

especially ones that insult MY intelligence and MY patriotism.

I clarified my statement, if you wanna hold a grudge on that fine. and I do not question your patriotism.

Wanna avoid my wrath? don't invoke it.

Well i tried being nice, and look where that got me

[retiredman]

I prefer people are civil to me. if they aren't, like you aren't, then I am perfectly willing to be uncivil with them.

insult matches are interesting things. It is always the other guy who insults first.... we, ourselves, never ever throw the first punch and are, therefore, completely justified in throwing the second.

you don't look like RSR's spokeman, you sound like his publicist and apologist and uncritical number one fan.


I am not intolerant of people who disagree with me. I am intolerant of partisan parrot-like morons.

clarify THIS, asshole:
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=14282

[Yurt]

make up your mind. you whine when I called you a jew, and now you whine when I make an distinct effort to call you a non-jew.

Like I said. I know more than you do about some things. Less than you do about others. I guess one of the things that fits into the former category is the understanding of what areas are in each.:laugh2:

you're intellectuall dishonest and handicap...its a slur...the fact you don't know the difference shows you know nothing about jews, hence your knowledge of the middle east is worthless...faggotty ann

[Yurt]

yurtie?

[retiredman]

yurtie?

from ANM, your boy toy on 05-04-2008 09:41 PM

you two are so cute together!

[Yurt]

oh, LOL...yeah thats acts, he is quite a character... and what is a boy toy? is that some gay thing, seems so from the context....you sure do know a lot more about gay stuff than i do, i will grant you that closet boy who takes a one word message and turns into something gay :laugh2: you're spending too much time in the closet

[retiredman]

oh, LOL...yeah thats acts, he is quite a character... and what is a boy toy? is that some gay thing, seems so from the context....you sure do know a lot more about gay stuff than i do, i will grant you that closet boy who takes a one word message and turns into something gay :laugh2: you're spending too much time in the closet


I guess you have no defense for why the village idiot has a pet name for you?

and here's another news flash for you "yurtie".... I know a lot more about a lot of stuff than you do...because I have lived all over the planet for about a quarter of a century plus longer than you have and I have seen shit and done shit that you can only dream about. But hey, you just got your law license and will catch iup to me..... well.... soon, I guess.... but probably not until I have reached ambient temperature for a few years. ;)

[red states rule]

The liberal media keeps trying to blame America and pres Bush for all the worlds problems

What else is new?


CNN’s Amanpour and Phillips: Bush Foreign Policy Has ‘Failed Everywhere’
By Matthew Balan | May 19, 2008 - 16:57 ET

CNN chief international correspondent Christiane Amanpour, during a discussion of President Bush’s recent trip to the Middle East on Monday’s "American Morning," cited her discussion with unnamed "analysts and experts," and concluded " it's hard to discern any evidence of any success on this trip whatsoever." "American Morning" substitute co-host Kyra Phillips, following-up to Amanpour’s analysis, remarked, "Well, critics have come forward and said, okay, whether it's his policies in Iraq, Lebanon, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, he's failed everywhere."

The three-minute segment, which was the last in the 6 am Eastern hour of the CNN program, came after a report by CNN correspondent Aneesh Raman, which summarized the President’s trip. Amanpour, in response to Phillips’ "failed everywhere" statement, gave a more nuanced take on President Bush’s foreign policy track record. "Well, events have moved beyond anybody's expectations and control.... If you look in Lebanon, the elected U.S.-backed Prime Minister Fouad Siniora is not in control. Hamas is in control because it has a superiority -- rather Hezbollah, in terms of weapons. So the U.S.-backed allies there are not in control, basically, only in name only and de facto."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2008/05/19/cnn-s-amanpour-phillips-bush-foreign-policy-has-failed-everywhere