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82Marine89
05-12-2008, 09:55 PM
Virtually all the nation's political attention in recent weeks has focused on the compelling state-by-state presidential nomination struggle between two Democrats and the potential for party-splitting strife over there.

But in the mTexas Rep. Ron Paul and his libertarian-minded GOP backers are collecting delegates at the local level and planning a revolt against Sen. John McCain at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul in Septembereantime, quietly, largely under the radar of most people, the forces of Rep. Ron Paul have been organizing across the country to stage an embarrassing public revolt against Sen. John McCain when Republicans gather for their national convention in Minnesota at the beginning of September.

Paul's presidential candidacy has been correctly dismissed all along in terms of winning the nomination. He was even excluded as irrelevant by Fox News from a nationally-televised GOP debate in New Hampshire.

But what's been largely overlooked is Paul's candidacy as a reflection of a powerful lingering dissatisfaction with the Arizona senator among the party's most conservative conservatives. As anticipated in late March in The Ticket, that situation could be exacerbated by today's expected announcement from former Republican Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia for the Libertarian Party's presidential nod, a slot held by Paul in 1988.

Never mind Ralph Nader, Republican and Democratic parties both face ...

... potentially damaging internal splits that could cripple their chances for victory in a narrow vote on Nov. 4.

Just take a look at recent Republican primary results, largely overlooked because McCain locked up the necessary 1,191 delegates long ago. In Indiana, McCain got 77% of the recent Republican primary vote, Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney, who've each long ago quit and endorsed McCain, still got 10% and 5% respectively, while Paul took 8%.

On the same May 6 in North Carolina, McCain received less than three-quarters of Republican votes (74%), while Huckabee got 12%, Paul 7% and Alan Keyes and No Preference took a total of 7%.

Pennsylvania was even slightly worse for the GOP's presumptive nominee, who got only 73% to a combined 27% for Paul (16%) and Huckabee (11%).

As Politico.com's Jonathan Martin noted recently, at least some of these results are temporary protest votes in meaningless primaries built on lingering affection for Huckabee and suspicion of McCain.

Given the long-since settled GOP race, thousands of other Republicans in these states, who might have put up with a McCain vote, crossed over to vote in the more exciting Democratic primaries, on their own for Sen. Barack Obama or at the urging of talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, who sought to support Hillary Clinton and prolong Democratic bloodletting.

According to a recent Boston Globe tally, Paul has a grand total of 19 Republican delegates to Romney's 260, Huckabee's 286 and McCain's 1,413.

In the last three months, Paul's forces, who donated $34.5 million to his White House effort and upward of a million total votes, have, as The Ticket has noted, been fighting a series of guerrilla battles with party establishment officials at county and state conventions from Washington and Missouri to Maine and Mississippi. Their goal: to take control of local committees, boost their delegate totals and influence platform debates.

Paul, for instance, favors a drastically reduced federal goNobody told these supporters of Texas Rep. and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul that the French can't vote in American electionsvernment, abolishing the Federal Reserve, ending the Iraq war immediately and withdrawing U.S. troops from abroad.

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NATO AIR
05-12-2008, 10:02 PM
How much uproar and damage could happen at the convention?

I don't see how it could be too much more than a minor embarrassment....

gabosaurus
05-12-2008, 10:17 PM
You GOP folks need to take Paul seriously. He is already printing convention T-shirts.

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Pale Rider
05-13-2008, 03:17 AM
Mit Romney was here at the Pepper Mill a few weeks ago and was trying to lock up Nevada for mcamnesty. Didn't happen. The Paul people were there and shut the whole show down. They had to plan it for later, of which has not happened yet. I can tell ya right now, juan mccain won't win Nevada in November. Paul will. Paul smoked everybody in the Nevada caucuses, and nothing has changed since.

avatar4321
05-13-2008, 08:37 AM
McCain already has the delegates. I don't see what Ron Paul could possibly do to cause problems at the convention. So his delegates dont like McCain... who does. But the problem is the People voted for McCain. stupid open primaries.

Pale Rider
05-13-2008, 11:52 AM
McCain already has the delegates. I don't see what Ron Paul could possibly do to cause problems at the convention. So his delegates dont like McCain... who does. But the problem is the People voted for McCain. stupid open primaries.

Mccain reached the magic number to clinch the nomination, but he didn't win Nevada. I think the Paul people just wanted to remind mccain that Ron Paul will win Nevada in November also.

We need this to happen. This whole presidential election system dominated by the dems and the repubs has to end. People want and deserve more and BETTER choices. Myself, I start voting for the person that "I" want this year. Never again will I "waste" my vote voting for someone I DON'T like just because I'm being forced to hold my nose and vote AGAINST someone. Screw that. There's plenty of people voting for who they want, and I'm going to be one of them.

I think the day we bust up this age old strange hold the dems and repubs have on the presidential election process, the better off this country will be. Actually, we could start rolling back some of the major fuck ups the country has suffered at the hands of BOTH the dems and the repubs.

82Marine89
05-13-2008, 10:54 PM
Mccain reached the magic number to clinch the nomination, but he didn't win Nevada. I think the Paul people just wanted to remind mccain that Ron Paul will win Nevada in November also.

We need this to happen. This whole presidential election system dominated by the dems and the repubs has to end. People want and deserve more and BETTER choices. Myself, I start voting for the person that "I" want this year. Never again will I "waste" my vote voting for someone I DON'T like just because I'm being forced to hold my nose and vote AGAINST someone. Screw that. There's plenty of people voting for who they want, and I'm going to be one of them.

I think the day we bust up this age old strange hold the dems and repubs have on the presidential election process, the better off this country will be. Actually, we could start rolling back some of the major fuck ups the country has suffered at the hands of BOTH the dems and the repubs.

This will be the 3rd election that I have voted my conscience and not a party hack:salute:.