Carrier

[Abbey Marie]

Anyone watching this on PBS? It's a fascinating (entertaining) documentary about life on board the USS Nimitz. It follows various people and gets up close and personal about life on board for 6 months.

The fifth hour is on tonight at 9pm est. You don't need to see it from the beginning, as each episode is self-contained.

http://www.pbs.org/weta/carrier/

[Hagbard Celine]

That one racist idiot needs to be taught a lesson. He alone is creating a negative, racial environment for all his fellow seamen. Haha. "Seamen." What an ignorant hick. That's all I could think watching it last night.

[Abbey Marie]

That one racist idiot needs to be taught a lesson. He alone is creating a negative, racial environment for all his fellow seamen. Haha. "Seamen." What an ignorant hick. That's all I could think watching it last night.

It was interesting to hear him talk about how he was taught to think that way by his parents. I wish the black guy who talked to him while he was wasted could give him the same talk sober. He made excellent points, and I was impressed that he even bothered to do it. Unfortunately, the guy had zero recollection of it.

The show had a lot of other good stuff though. Like the guy who was on sexual assault advisory duty ("SAVI", I forget the actual title) while in port, and then he has sex with a female airman? What an idiot.

[Pale Rider]

Anyone watching this on PBS? It's a fascinating (entertaining) documentary about life on board the USS Nimitz. It follows various people and gets up close and personal about life on board for 6 months.

The fifth hour is on tonight at 9pm est. You don't need to see it from the beginning, as each episode is self-contained.

http://www.pbs.org/weta/carrier/

One of my friends from Reno Harley Davidson served a tour on the USS Nimitz. You should hear some of HIS stories... gaaawd. I'm sure glad I was in the Air Force.

But yeah, I've been watching it on PBS-HD.

[retiredman]

my plan is to order the series on DVD so I can watch it all at once when I get back from mexico. It will be like a trip down memory lane.:salute:

[Abbey Marie]

my plan is to order the series on DVD so I can watch it all at once when I get back from mexico. It will be like a trip down memory lane.:salute:

Were you deployed on the Nimitz?

[Pale Rider]

Were you deployed on the Nimitz?

Abbey.... you're a saint for trying to politely engage this butt crack after the way he's talked to you... he doesn't deserve your niceness...

[retiredman]

Were you deployed on the Nimitz?

Ike... same class

[Mr. P]

Anyone watching this on PBS?

Yep, and it has been a very interesting doc. Glad I went ARMY, at least we had some space!

[LiberalNation]

Watching, makes you not want to join the navy.

[Pale Rider]

Watching, makes you not want to join the navy.

No shit. Six months at sea. Jammed in like sardines. No social life. Forget that.

Go Air Force... :salute:

[jimnyc]

I was aboard the Intrepid in NY once. I believe I was on another in NC as well, the USS North Carolina while on vacation. Things are HUGE!! Whole damn floating city, and then some.

[LiberalNation]

No shit. Six months at sea. Jammed in like sardines. No social life. Forget that.

Yeah if your jampacked like that and then they say no social life or your in deep shit, would be nearly impossible for a lot of people.

[retiredman]

Yeah if your jampacked like that and then they say no social life or your in deep shit, would be nearly impossible for a lot of people.

it is not like you have a lot of time to socialize. the pace of operations on a deployed carrier is nearly overwhelming.

[Pale Rider]

Yeah if your jampacked like that and then they say no social life or your in deep shit, would be nearly impossible for a lot of people.

My friend I worked with at Renp H-D was on the Nimitz... he punched an officer in a hallway and was able to claim mental stress. He got out early, but he told me they worked practically non stop. I don't know how they expect people to do it.

We had it made in the Air Force... I'll admit it. There were many weeks during the week I wouldn't even spend five hours total at the base. We'd go to work, sit through roll call and announcements, and if there wasn't anything for our shop to do, we'd "cut back," and that meant everybody went home except for one person, and we'd rotate the person each week. Sure we had Operational Readiness Inspections, Mobility Inspections and other things that required we work 12 on 12 off for a week or so, but still, we had it made in the Air Force, even when we deployed. I was never gone for more than three months, and that was to Lebanon. It also helped to be a Specialist, or which there was only three shops. People in other jobs like Crew Chiefs worked all the time.

In my opinion, there's only one branch of the military to join. Sure it's the hardest one to get in, but it's worth it.

[LiberalNation]

it is not like you have a lot of time to socialize. the pace of operations on a deployed carrier is nearly overwhelming.

It ain't worth the pay if your enlisted and don't plan to make a career out of the navy IMO. A few days in port at a neat place is all the real fun.

[hjmick]

In my opinion, there's only one branch of the military to join. Sure it's the hardest one to get in, but it's worth it.

The Puddle Pirates? Coast Guard? :poke: :laugh2:

[retiredman]

It ain't worth the pay if your enlisted and don't plan to make a career out of the navy IMO. A few days in port at a neat place is all the real fun.

it is actually pretty fun to be a part of the fast paced operation. You really don't have a lot of time to mope around.

[Pale Rider]

It ain't worth the pay if your enlisted and don't plan to make a career out of the navy IMO. A few days in port at a neat place is all the real fun.

Are you still contemplating ROTC? Officers make decent money, and the increased bennies aren't bad either. Officers Club, Officers housing, everybody has to salute you... :salute:

If I had it to do over again, I'd be an officer for sure.

[LiberalNation]

lol but I can mope while being overworked at the same time.

[LiberalNation]

Are you still contemplating ROTC? Officers make decent money, and the increased bennies aren't bad either. Officers Club, Officers housing, everybody has to salute you... :salute:

Yeah for now, my first year of college will decide whether I stick with it and get a commision or not tho. Getting the scholorship stuff done so it's an option can't hurt anything.

Yeah that carrier show where the officer cut in front of the enlisted soldier going for a dental appointment showed the difference even in little things.

[retiredman]

Yeah for now, my first year of college will decide whether I stick with it and get a commision or not tho. Getting the scholorship stuff done so it's an option can't hurt anything.

Yeah that carrier show where the officer cut in front of the enlisted soldier going for a dental appointment showed the difference even in little things.


the food in the officer's mess is shitty compared to the crew's, however. be aware of that!

[Pale Rider]

Yeah for now, my first year of college will decide whether I stick with it and get a commision or not tho. Getting the scholorship stuff done so it's an option can't hurt anything.

Yeah that carrier show where the officer cut in front of the enlisted soldier going for a dental appointment showed the difference even in little things.

Well hell... if you have perfect twenty, twenty vision, you could even be a fighter pilot...or any kind of a pilot... in the AIR FORCE that is. Fly a tanker or a cargo plane, or even a passenger plane carrying people to and from Area 51... :D

[LiberalNation]

Nah i wear glasses, no perfect vision. I couldn't even get into air force rotc. Their standards were crazy hard. Like a 28 act minimum. 19 is the min for army and I scored a 24. Medical exam is gona suck, got to get a pelvic exam and an anal rectum exam both external/visual but still that sucks. No one likes to drop their pants for strange doctors. What they think they're gona find down there.

[Mr. P]

Yeah for now, my first year of college will decide whether I stick with it and get a commision or not tho. Getting the scholorship stuff done so it's an option can't hurt anything.

Yeah that carrier show where the officer cut in front of the enlisted soldier going for a dental appointment showed the difference even in little things.

I heard her spout that BS too...and that's what it was, BS! What most don't understand is he was there for his annual flight physical. It's a MUST or he doesn't fly. He's a very important part of the carrier mission. She just had a tooth ace. He was a priorityto the ships mission, not moved ahead because he was an officer.

[Pale Rider]

Nah i wear glasses, no perfect vision. I couldn't even get into air force rotc. Their standards were crazy hard. Like a 28 act minimum. 19 is the min for army and I scored a 24. Medical exam is gona suck, got to get a pelvic exam and an anal rectum exam both external/visual but still that sucks. No one likes to drop their pants for strange doctors. What they think they're gona find down there.

They look for hemorrhoids, nasty rashes like herpes, etc.. Everybody has to do it, and the people doing the exam are probably no more thrilled with it than you are.

And ya know, even if you were an officer in the Army, chances are you'd wind up in a hot zone.

[LiberalNation]

I'm gona be a nurse, I'll prolly end up in Germany or a US base but there's always a chance. Least a freakin ship isn't likely.

[Abbey Marie]

I'm gona be a nurse, I'll prolly end up in Germany or a US base but there's always a chance. Least a freakin ship isn't likely.

Just think how nice it will be to work around healthy young men instead of incontinent elderly folks. :)

[manu1959]

Just think how nice it will be to work around healthy young men instead of incontinent elderly folks. :)

she plays for the girls team....health young men don't do jack for her....

[Abbey Marie]

she plays for the girls team....health young men don't do jack for her....

Indeed. I meant as her patients. No benefits!

[LiberalNation]

Just think how nice it will be to work around healthy young men instead of incontinent elderly folks. :)

Unless I get sent to a VA hospital. God I hope i don't hafta work in a VA hospital.

[Pale Rider]

she plays for the girls team....health young men don't do jack for her....

Being a nurse, maybe if she got a good look at some man stuff, she might change her mind... :dunno:

[LiberalNation]

Certainly wrinkled old men aren't impressive. I’ve changed and bathed so many old men. Glad I’m getting to quit that job.

[Pale Rider]

Unless I get sent to a VA hospital. God I hope i don't hafta work in a VA hospital.

There are no active duty military working in V.A. hospitals. It's all civilian.

[LiberalNation]

Oh goody.

[Abbey Marie]

Being a nurse, maybe if she got a good look at some man stuff, she might change her mind... :dunno:

Not picturing... not picturing... :coffee:

[Pale Rider]

Certainly wrinkled old men aren't impressive. I’ve changed and bathed so many old men. Glad I’m getting to quit that job.

Yeah that almost sounded as bad as when I worked in the Supermax prison, and an inmate in an observation cell threw shit out this tiny hole down by the floor in the door jam, and it flew out and went all over my boots and pant legs. He gathered up what was left a couple times and threw it again, and when he couldn't throw any more, he pissed to rinse it all out. I quit that day.

[Mr. P]

Certainly wrinkled old men aren't impressive. I’ve changed and bathed so many old men. Glad I’m getting to quit that job.

I promise that in the dark it WILL be the old guy that gets ya off, not the young stud that has no idea what he's doing. :laugh2:

[retiredman]

I promise that in the dark it WILL be the old guy that gets ya off, not the young stud that has no idea what he's doing. :laugh2:

amen brother!

I may not be as good as I once was, but I am as good once as I ever was.

[NATO AIR]

I love this documentary! It makes me miss the Navy at points, though I've only been out about 4 months.

I could have been on another deployment just like them if I had stayed for another 9 months or so on the Abe Lincoln, which just left Singapore on its way to the Gulf last week.

It is very admirable for the Navy to show warts and all what its really like, I remain absolutely amazed they showed all of this.

The racism, the sex, the favoritism, the passion, the pride, the chief's mess, the heat, the stress, etc. They're capturing it all in this series.

I even had to eat my words... last year my supervisor and I were walking back to the ship after a bit of liberty in San Diego and he told me about when he was on the Nimitz in '05 and the CO went off on the 1MC after a man overboard was called away late at night. I thought he was telling a sea story (i.e. pulling my leg) when he said the CO told the crew he if it was some malicious son of a bitch who threw a chemlight in the water he would hang somebody's ass out to dry and make them wish they were never born.

Sure enough, 1st episode the CO said those exact words. I have to send my supervisor and his shop all kinds of goodies for thinking he was full of it.

A dynamic captured in the documentary well is the discipline where leaders from E-5 and above to the officers get in people's asses for messing up but at the same time do as much as possible to keep them in the Navy by changing their behavior and mindset. That alone is a full time job for some people but it can work, and when it does, its about as rewarding an achievement as any we have in the Navy.

Also great how the CO & CMC are both from the Delta down south and instantly play well off each other throughout the deployment, complimentary styles and all.

I am again, really proud of the Navy for allowing this documentary. I just wish they'd done it for the Kitty Hawk in '05 instead of the Nimitz! Not that I'd want to be in it but we had a bad ass CO & Admiral who led a hell of a crew.

[Abbey Marie]

Nato, it's nice to hear that it is really representative of life on a carrier.

I was stuck by how some people interveiwed felt the carrier was right for them because they aren't the type to shoot at anyone, or are uncomfortable with the whole idea of war, while others would like more opportunity to shoot and drop bombs. I was surprised by both attitudes. I would have expected most people who join the service (any branch), to be accepting of and ready to fight/kill, but not be particularly itching to.

Btw, don't you just love that opening theme song? I am trying to find a way to download it/buy it, but no luck so far. There is a clip about it by the composer on the PBS site I pasted in my first post. It sounds like it could be a Clapton blues song, but it's not.

[Pale Rider]

Nato, it's nice to hear that it is really representative of life on a carrier.

I was stuck by how some people interveiwed felt the carrier was right for them because they aren't the type to shoot at anyone, or are uncomfortable with the whole idea of war, while others would like more opportunity to shoot and drop bombs. I was surprised by both attitudes. I would have expected most people who join the service (any branch), to be accepting of and ready to fight/kill, but not be particularly itching to.

Btw, don't you just love that opening theme song? I am trying to find a way to download it/buy it, but no luck so far. There is a clip about it by the composer on the PBS site I pasted in my first post. It sounds like it could be a Clapton blues song, but it's not.

Check this out Abbey... http://www.pbs.org/weta/carrier/the_film_music_in_the_film.htm

[Abbey Marie]

Check this out Abbey... http://www.pbs.org/weta/carrier/the_film_music_in_the_film.htm

Thanks, Pale. That's where I saw the clip.

[Mr. P]

Nato, it's nice to hear that it is really representative of life on a carrier.

I was stuck by how some people interveiwed felt the carrier was right for them because they aren't the type to shoot at anyone, or are uncomfortable with the whole idea of war, while others would like more opportunity to shoot and drop bombs. I was surprised by both attitudes. I would have expected most people who join the service (any branch), to be accepting of and ready to fight/kill, but not be particularly itching to.

Btw, don't you just love that opening theme song? I am trying to find a way to download it/buy it, but no luck so far. There is a clip about it by the composer on the PBS site I pasted in my first post. It sounds like it could be a Clapton blues song, but it's not.

Did you catch the one who said the Navy was not really the military but just a job?

[retiredman]

Did you catch the one who said the Navy was not really the military but just a job?

those guys whose job is to run the distilling plant in a three section watch for six straight months are really a lot closer to municipal water system employees than they are to warriors, eh?

[NATO AIR]

It really depends on where you work... yet it is much more like a job at times. Primarily the groundhog day aspect of it.

I know quite a number of soldiers/Marines who do not appreciate killing or are interested in war. In fact, it seems most of them are that way that I know. They enjoy saving lives and defending people.

I do see some people in the Navy joining because they want to reconcile their fear of violence or killing with their desire to serve the country and contribute to its security.

The pilots are the most bloodthirsty bunch I know!

If you work in intel or in weapons (like the AWSEP folks hauling bombs and missiles around the hangar bays), its more like a war to you. Your actions have direct consequences. If you're a maintainer on the aircraft or support equipment or an operations specialist monitoring the ship's movements and the battlespace around it, perhaps not so much. You feel lost in your own world wrapped in your own responsibilities and problems.

[Pale Rider]

I wish the Discovery Channel would do one of these documentaries on the Air Force called "Flight Line." :salute:

[NATO AIR]

I wish the Discovery Channel would do one of these documentaries on the Air Force called "Flight Line." :salute:

Wouldn't most of the filming end up at the nearest golf course or bar then?

:laugh2:

[Mr. P]

Wouldn't most of the filming end up at the nearest golf course or bar then?

:laugh2:

:laugh2: You got that right NATO! :laugh2:

:salute: