Americans Want to WIN in Iraq, are Liberals listening???

[Bonnie]

National Survey by Public Opinion Strategies Says Push To Renounce War in
Washington on Different Page Than Majority of American People on Iraq War

ALEXANDRIA, Va., Feb. 20 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- In the wake of the
U.S. House of Representatives passing a resolution that amounts to a vote
of no confidence in the Bush administration's policies in Iraq, a new
national survey by Alexandria, VA-based Public Opinion Strategies (POS)
shows the American people may have some different ideas from their elected
leaders on this issue.
The survey was conducted nationwide February 5-7 among a bi-partisan,
cross-section of 800 registered voters. It has a margin of error of plus or
minus 3.5 percent. The survey was commissioned by The Moriah Group, a
Chattanooga-based strategic communications and public affairs firm.
"The survey shows Americans want to win in Iraq, and that they
understand Iraq is the central point in the war against terrorism and they
can support a U.S. strategy aimed at achieving victory," said Neil
Newhouse, a partner in POS. "The idea of pulling back from Iraq is not
where the majority of Americans are."
- By a 53 percent - 46 percent margin, respondents surveyed said that
"Democrats are going too far, too fast in pressing the President to
withdraw troops from Iraq."

- By identical 57 percent - 41 percent margins, voters agreed with these
two statements: "I support finishing the job in Iraq, that is, keeping
the troops there until the Iraqi government can maintain control and
provide security" and "the Iraqi war is a key part of the global war on
terrorism."

- Also, by a 56 percent - 43 percent margin, voters agreed that "even if
they have concerns about his war policies, Americans should stand behind
the President in Iraq because we are at war."

- While the survey shows voters believe (60 percent- 34 percent) that Iraq
will never become a stable democracy, they still disagree that victory
in Iraq ("creating a young, but stable democracy and reducing the
threat of terrorism at home") is no longer possible. Fifty-three percent
say it's still possible, while 43 percent disagree.

- By a wide 74 percent - 25 percent margin, voters disagree with the
notion that "I don't really care what happens in Iraq after the U.S.
leaves, I just want the troops brought home."
"How Americans view the war does not line up with the partisan messages
or actions coming out of Washington," said Davis Lundy, president of The
Moriah Group. "There are still a majority of Americans out there who want
to support the President and a focused effort to define and achieve
victory."
While the Bush administration may find some comfort and support in
these poll results, their efforts to increasingly tie the war to Iran do
not seem to be working. By a 63 percent-32 percent margin, poll respondents
say the US should hold direct talks with Iran about the situation in Iraq
and they narrowly reject (49 percent-47 percent) the statement "a stable
Iraq is the best way to protect America from the nuclear threat of Iran."
Voters also say they are more concerned about the War in Iraq (53 percent)
than the growing influence of Iran (35 percent).
Finally, when asked which statement best describes their position on
the Iraq War, voters are evenly divided (50 percent - 49 percent) between
positions of "doing whatever it takes to restore order until the Iraqis can
govern and provide security to their country," and positions that call for
immediate withdrawal or a strict timetable.
- 27 percent said "the Iraq war is the front line in the battle against
terrorism and our troops should stay there and do whatever it takes to
restore order until the Iraqis can govern and provide security to their
country."

- 23 percent said "while I don't agree that the U.S. should be in the war,
our troops should stay there and do whatever it takes to restore order
until the Iraqis can govern and provide security to their country."

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http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/02-20-2007/0004531316&EDATE=

[Birdzeye]

Public Opinion Strategies (POS) is a political polling company based in Virginia.

"IRI's annual reports for 2003 and 2004 include among their lists of volunters a significant number of Republican pollsters, consultants, strategists, public opinion researchers, and campaign website designers, some of whom have come under fire for unethical practices.

"For example, Rob Autry and Gene Ulm are with Public Opinion Strategies, the largest Republican polling firm. POS was responsible for the "Harry and Louise" ad in the early 90's that scuttled Clinton's health insurance proposals. In 2001, it was charged with violating Virginia's polling disclosure laws, and it has also been accused of using push polls to influence elections."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Public_Opinion_Strategies

[TheStripey1]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Public_Opinion_Strategies

typical... when the polls all say get out, therepubliclowns manufacture one that says the opposite...

but I guess this just goes to prove... some people just don't MIND being lied to...

obtw... Jesus was a liberal... do you conservatives all hate jesus too?

[Bonnie]

typical... when the polls all say get out, therepubliclowns manufacture one that says the opposite...

but I guess this just goes to prove... some people just don't MIND being lied to...

obtw... Jesus was a liberal... do you conservatives all hate jesus too?

Well Jesus was no liberal in the sense of liberals in our government. He preached that charity should be just that charity, not forced socialism. It's called free will, and yes I hold him in very high regard.

Adn do you really wnat to get into the skewed polling debate, because there is plenty of that which "helps" the liberal causes including the MSM..

[-Cp]

obtw... Jesus was a liberal... do you conservatives all hate jesus too?

Really? Which of the following definitions of the word - do you think - Jesus fit into?

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

- It can't be this description because Jesus didn't get involved politically and he certainly wasn't on earth to establish or reform ANY religion, he was here to change the hearts of man and to die for their sin.

2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

- Again, Jesus belonged to no politicla party or agenda.

3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

- Not applicable

4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

- Christ demands us to give ourselves to him - that is anything BUT "individual freedom".

5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

- Christ wasn't here for our "personal expression"

6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.

- See answers above, Christ wasn't political

7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.

- Christ was very INTOLERANT towards the pharasies and other self-righteous people.

8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

- Christ tells us we need to stop trying to find freedom in ourselves or ideas and surrender all of ourselves to Him.

9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.

- I suppose you could say Christ "Donated Liberally" as he gave his life, but this word used in action is not the same meaning as saying someone is a "liberal".

10. given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
11. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
12. of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.
13. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
–noun 14. a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.
15. (often initial capital letter) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain.

- These last 5 - once again - have no bearing on Christ or who he was and why he was here.


I'd suggest you stop getting your advice on Christ from the likes of Alan Colmes (who in his book has a chapter entitled "Jesus was a Liberal") and surrender your life to the ONE Christ who you falsely claim is was a LIberal and live a life holy unto him.

[TheStripey1]

Well Jesus was no liberal in the sense of liberals in our government. He preached that charity should be just that charity, not forced socialism. It's called free will, and yes I hold him in very high regard.

Adn do you really wnat to get into the skewed polling debate, because there is plenty of that which "helps" the liberal causes including the MSM..

Jesus was a liberal. He wanted to feed the hungry, cloth the naked, house the homeless, heal the infirm... if democrats aka liberals, want to do that for the poor in our country, then if you hold Jesus is as high of a regard as you claim to, why do you deny them?

[TheStripey1]

Really? Which of the following definitions of the word - do you think - Jesus fit into?

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.



Have you ACTUALLY read the book? Or are you basing your beliefs on what others tell you?

[-Cp]

Have you ACTUALLY read the book? Or are you basing your beliefs on what others tell you?

Typical Lib - won't answer the question..

Which book are you referring to?

[avatar4321]

typical... when the polls all say get out, therepubliclowns manufacture one that says the opposite...

but I guess this just goes to prove... some people just don't MIND being lied to...

obtw... Jesus was a liberal... do you conservatives all hate jesus too?

Maybe Jesus the illegal immigrant you have working for you is liberal, but Jesus Christ the Son of God is far from it.

[avatar4321]

Jesus was a liberal. He wanted to feed the hungry, cloth the naked, house the homeless, heal the infirm... if democrats aka liberals, want to do that for the poor in our country, then if you hold Jesus is as high of a regard as you claim to, why do you deny them?

If Democrats wanted to do any of those things, they wouldn't be promoting the beuacracy which is inefficient and CANT fix those things.

You want to help the poor by keeping them poor. We want to help the poor by teaching them to better themselves and become independent of others.

You are big in statistics. Just take a look at the surveys which show conservatives are far more giving to the poor then liberals are. The only thing liberals are good at giving away is other peoples money.

[Birdzeye]

Well Jesus was no liberal in the sense of liberals in our government. He preached that charity should be just that charity, not forced socialism. It's called free will, and yes I hold him in very high regard.

Adn do you really wnat to get into the skewed polling debate, because there is plenty of that which "helps" the liberal causes including the MSM..

Oh, I don't deny that. I'm just pointing out that the results of this "poll" should be taken with a grain of salt. It contradicts what most other polls are telling us.

[avatar4321]

Typical Lib - won't answer the question..

Which book are you referring to?

I think he is trying to refer to the Bible, Of course if he read that, he would realize Christ never one advocated that government should steal from people to give to others. He encouraged individuals to be chartible with their own money. Not the money of others.

Christ wasn't a reformer. Quite the opposite, He was inviting the Israelites to return to the Lord and the standard He gave them, not creating some radical new standard. There was nothing new at what He taught. Adam taught it. Abraham taught it. Moses taught it, but the people rejected it so the Lord gave them the Law of Moses to point them to the coming of the Messiah who would once again restore the higher law and priesthood to them.

[avatar4321]

Oh, I don't deny that. I'm just pointing out that the results of this "poll" should be taken with a grain of salt. It contradicts what most other polls are telling us.

I think that was the point of this poll.

[Bonnie]

Oh, I don't deny that. I'm just pointing out that the results of this "poll" should be taken with a grain of salt. It contradicts what most other polls are telling us.

Fair enough..

[Bonnie]

Jesus was a liberal. He wanted to feed the hungry, cloth the naked, house the homeless, heal the infirm... if democrats aka liberals, want to do that for the poor in our country, then if you hold Jesus is as high of a regard as you claim to, why do you deny them?

Oh please don't insult my intelligence by equating motivations of the libs in our government to the divinity of Christ.

Christ had no power agenda libs do..they empower themselves by taking that which does not belong to them and buying votes with it in the name of doing what's "right and just" at the expense mostly of the middle class. If they truly want to help the downtrodden they would stop taxing to death the businesses that actully supply jobs to the poor and working classes, and allow them to stand on their own two feet.
Our welfare system in this country has netted some 4 trillion dollars since the inception of a socialism here, and, it has yielded nothing, if it had we would no longer have a welfare state. If the liberals truly want to help the poor let them give from their own pockets and stop being hypocrites.

[glockmail]

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obtw... Jesus was a liberal... do you conservatives all hate jesus too?

The founding fathers of the US were all liberals too. Too bad you don't care for either's message.

[avatar4321]

The founding fathers of the US were all liberals too. Too bad you don't care for either's message.

ah but they would be conservatives today. After all, they would want their original intent to be followed if no one else did.

[Gaffer]

typical... when the polls all say get out, therepubliclowns manufacture one that says the opposite...

but I guess this just goes to prove... some people just don't MIND being lied to...

obtw... Jesus was a liberal... do you conservatives all hate jesus too?

Typical of tigger. Hijack the poll thread for christian bashing.

[glockmail]

ah but they would be conservatives today. After all, they would want their original intent to be followed if no one else did. That was my point, lost on Stripe. :clap:

[TheStripey1]

Typical Lib - won't answer the question..

Which book are you referring to?

the Bible of course...

have you read it?

[TheStripey1]

Maybe Jesus the illegal immigrant you have working for you is liberal, but Jesus Christ the Son of God is far from it.

based on what?

Have you ACTUALLY read the Bible or do you just thumb through it looking at the pretty pictures?

[TheStripey1]

If Democrats wanted to do any of those things, they wouldn't be promoting the beuacracy which is inefficient and CANT fix those things.

You want to help the poor by keeping them poor. We want to help the poor by teaching them to better themselves and become independent of others.

You are big in statistics. Just take a look at the surveys which show conservatives are far more giving to the poor then liberals are. The only thing liberals are good at giving away is other peoples money.

where have I posted any statistics? link it...

conservatives give more????
maybe they have a guilty conscience because they KNOW they aren't following the tenets of Christ's teachings... and they HOPE that their "generosity" will get them into heaven...

[TheStripey1]

Oh, I don't deny that. I'm just pointing out that the results of this "poll" should be taken with a grain of salt. It contradicts what most other polls are telling us.

that's because it's a republiclown poll... given by republiclowns to republiclowns for the republiclowns benefit...

[-Cp]

the Bible of course...

have you read it?

I have - lots.. now please answer the question to me previous post:

What part of Christ fits the definition of a Liberal?

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

- It can't be this description because Jesus didn't get involved politically and he certainly wasn't on earth to establish or reform ANY religion, he was here to change the hearts of man and to die for their sin.

2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

- Again, Jesus belonged to no politicla party or agenda.

3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

- Not applicable

4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

- Christ demands us to give ourselves to him - that is anything BUT "individual freedom".

5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

- Christ wasn't here for our "personal expression"

6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.

- See answers above, Christ wasn't political

7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.

- Christ was very INTOLERANT towards the pharasies and other self-righteous people.

8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

- Christ tells us we need to stop trying to find freedom in ourselves or ideas and surrender all of ourselves to Him.

9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.

- I suppose you could say Christ "Donated Liberally" as he gave his life, but this word used in action is not the same meaning as saying someone is a "liberal".

10. given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
11. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
12. of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.
13. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
–noun 14. a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.
15. (often initial capital letter) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain.

- These last 5 - once again - have no bearing on Christ or who he was and why he was here.

[TheStripey1]

I think he is trying to refer to the Bible, Of course if he read that, he would realize Christ never one advocated that government should steal from people to give to others. He encouraged individuals to be chartible with their own money. Not the money of others.

Christ wasn't a reformer. Quite the opposite, He was inviting the Israelites to return to the Lord and the standard He gave them, not creating some radical new standard. There was nothing new at what He taught. Adam taught it. Abraham taught it. Moses taught it, but the people rejected it so the Lord gave them the Law of Moses to point them to the coming of the Messiah who would once again restore the higher law and priesthood to them.

ahhh, someone who has actually read the book...

maybe you can help me find the passage where JESUS says you can kill your brother and steal his goods because you think you deserve them more than he does...

and yes, I AM speaking about Iraq...

[TheStripey1]

The founding fathers of the US were all liberals too. Too bad you don't care for either's message.

the founding fathers were deists... not christians...

liberals? they had slaves... you call that liberal?

[TheStripey1]

ah but they would be conservatives today. After all, they would want their original intent to be followed if no one else did.

what would the founding fathers say about King George the W?

[TheStripey1]

Typical of tigger. Hijack the poll thread for christian bashing.


It's about Iraq, jack... poah gaffer... can't follow the trail without a flashlight...

but what do you care if I bash the pseudo christians, you're a godless heathen... at least you said you were last week... did you find JEEEEEEEEEEEEZUS over the weekend?

[glockmail]

[1]the founding fathers were deists... not christians...

[2]liberals? they had slaves... you call that liberal?

1. A common misconception among contemporary liberals.
2. Contemporary liberals have slaves: minorities and unions. :laugh2:

[avatar4321]

based on what?

Have you ACTUALLY read the Bible or do you just thumb through it looking at the pretty pictures?

There are pictures in the Bible? what Bible are you reading? the kiddie version?

[TheStripey1]

I have - lots.. now please answer the question to me previous post:

What part of Christ fits the definition of a Liberal?

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

- It can't be this description because Jesus didn't get involved politically and he certainly wasn't on earth to establish or reform ANY religion, he was here to change the hearts of man and to die for their sin.

2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

- Again, Jesus belonged to no politicla party or agenda.

3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

- Not applicable

4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

- Christ demands us to give ourselves to him - that is anything BUT "individual freedom".

5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

- Christ wasn't here for our "personal expression"

6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.

- See answers above, Christ wasn't political

7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.

- Christ was very INTOLERANT towards the pharasies and other self-righteous people.

8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

- Christ tells us we need to stop trying to find freedom in ourselves or ideas and surrender all of ourselves to Him.

9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.

- I suppose you could say Christ "Donated Liberally" as he gave his life, but this word used in action is not the same meaning as saying someone is a "liberal".

10. given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
11. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
12. of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.
13. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
–noun 14. a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.
15. (often initial capital letter) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain.

- These last 5 - once again - have no bearing on Christ or who he was and why he was here.


you tell me... as this is the passage I was referring to... which of your dictionary definitions best fit Jesus' own words?


King James Version of the Holy Bible, Matthew 25:

The Judgment of the Nations
31 ¶ When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 and before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 for I was ahungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee ahungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 for I was ahungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee ahungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

[avatar4321]

you tell me... as this is the passage I was referring to... which of your dictionary definitions best fit Jesus' own words?

great verses, but where do they say rob from your fellow man and give to the poor?

[Gaffer]

It's about Iraq, jack... poah gaffer... can't follow the trail without a flashlight...

but what do you care if I bash the pseudo christians, you're a godless heathen... at least you said you were last week... did you find JEEEEEEEEEEEEZUS over the weekend?

You sure are a hateful son of a bitch.

As I said typical of you to bash christians instead of discussing polls about iraq. I don't take any creedence in polls whether they are right or left wing. But I firmly believe that the majority of Americans are in favor of supporting the war and the troops.

If you do any reading of other than leftie liberal bullshit you will find that the surge is working which will piss you off no end. Because the last thing you want is for the administration to be successful at anything.

If you want to rant about christians take it to the religious forum.

[TheStripey1]

great verses, but where do they say rob from your fellow man and give to the poor?


do you understand what he is/was saying, ava? he says if you don't take care of the least of society, that HE will send you down to be with the devil... are you ready for everlasting hell and damnation, ava? a lot of your pals will be there...

[TheStripey1]

You sure are a hateful son of a bitch.

As I said typical of you to bash christians instead of discussing polls about iraq. I don't take any creedence in polls whether they are right or left wing. But I firmly believe that the majority of Americans are in favor of supporting the war and the troops.

If you do any reading of other than leftie liberal bullshit you will find that the surge is working which will piss you off no end. Because the last thing you want is for the administration to be successful at anything.

If you want to rant about christians take it to the religious forum.

conservatives hate liberals, jesus was a liberal therefore conservatives hate jesus...

and I did comment ON the poll... did you miss it in your haste to spew your hatred of liberals?

most americans consider bush's war on iraq to be a mistake... as per the polls... personally, I don't like polls either... they are usually only 1000 people polled and they never tell you where those people live...

[avatar4321]

do you understand what he is/was saying, ava? he says if you don't take care of the least of society, that HE will send you down to be with the devil... are you ready for everlasting hell and damnation, ava? a lot of your pals will be there...

I understand Him perfectly. You, however, are trying to read your socialist idealogy into what he says.

[-Cp]

conservatives hate liberals, jesus was a liberal therefore conservatives hate jesus...

and I did comment ON the poll... did you miss it in your haste to spew your hatred of liberals?

most americans consider bush's war on iraq to be a mistake... as per the polls... personally, I don't like polls either... they are usually only 1000 people polled and they never tell you where those people live...

CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE ANY SORT OF BIBLICAL PASSAGES THAT ASSERT THAT CHRIST WAS A "LIBERAL"?

You're PARABLE of the Sheep and the goats doesn't make ths case Christ was or is a Liberal..

[manu1959]

Jesus was a liberal. He wanted to feed the hungry, cloth the naked, house the homeless, heal the infirm... if democrats aka liberals, want to do that for the poor in our country, then if you hold Jesus is as high of a regard as you claim to, why do you deny them?

no the liberals want to take my money and give it to those that can not figure out how to make money....you know i have to pass a drug test every 2 weeks to get my money.....tell ya what....if they can pass a drug test every two weeks they can have some....oh and i have to have a physical every year to prove i don't smoke and do not drink to excess....or they cancel my life and health insurance......if they can pass that.....i will give them that as well....

[GW in Ohio]

"Americans Want to WIN in Iraq, are Liberals listening???"

You have got this so wrong.

Over 2/3 of Americans acknowledge that President Shit-for-Brains and his coterie of neocons have made a horrible mess of things with their ill-advised invasion of Iraq.

There is no "winning" in Iraq. There is no good outcome possible.

The best we can hope for is to keep the boy king distracted by other things for the remainder of his term so he does not have an opportunity to cause any further mischief in the world. In 2008 we will have a real president, who can begin to repair the damage caused by the Bush administration.

[glockmail]

"Americans Want to WIN in Iraq, are Liberals listening???"

You have got this so wrong.

Over 2/3 of Americans acknowledge that President [---]-for-Brains and his coterie of neocons have made a horrible mess of things with their ill-advised invasion of Iraq.

There is no "winning" in Iraq. There is no good outcome possible.

The best we can hope for is to keep the boy king distracted by other things for the remainder of his term so he does not have an opportunity to cause any further mischief in the world. In 2008 we will have a real president, who can begin to repair the damage caused by the Bush administration.

So what would you have done about Saddam, his support of terrorists, his assassination attempt on an ex-president, and his threats against the US and our allies?

[GW in Ohio]

"So what would you have done about Saddam, his support of terrorists, his assassination attempt on an ex-president, and his threats against the US and our allies?"

Saddam Hussein was no threat to us. He had no WMDs, and he was so weakened by the sanctions that he wasn't even worth worrying about. He was just a nasty little dictator.....one among many throughout the world.

We should have deployed our military force wisely, instead of dissipating it in Iraq.

Afghanistan was a good use of our military. Too bad we didn't do the job right there, instead of diverting people to Iraq.

[glockmail]

Saddam Hussein was no threat to us. He had no WMDs, and he was so weakened by the sanctions that he wasn't even worth worrying about. He was just a nasty little dictator.....one among many throughout the world.

We should have deployed our military force wisely, instead of dissipating it in Iraq.

Afghanistan was a good use of our military. Too bad we didn't do the job right there, instead of diverting people to Iraq.

According to most leaders in cogress, our allies, and the UN, Saddam did have WMDs. But say for a momenet that he did not.

Do you deny that Saddam was supporting terrorism? Do you deny that he was obtaining weapons from France as part of the oil-for-food scandal? Do you deny that France, Germany and Russia were being bribed by Saddam?

And I'll ask you a second time, what would you do with a dicatator that attempted to assasinate an ex-President?