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Little-Acorn
04-03-2008, 02:09 PM
Last time they did this, it backfired huge as people realized they were calling the man a liar (and a traitor) before he had even said a word.

Now they are trying it again, pretending he will twist his report for political purposes. Given the negative results these attempts usually give the Dems, one has to believe there is something major in this coming report, that Dems are desperately trying to keep people from hearing or believing. It's so bad for them, that they are willing to risk the same negative results again, in this latest attempt to call the man a liar before he has even given the report.

Have the Dem leaders nothing better to do, than repeatedly smear the most successful general in the entire Iraq war, to fit their own political agenda?

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9370.html

Pelosi warns Petraeus on Iraq testimony

By DANIEL W. REILLY
4/3/08 1:16 PM EST

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) warned Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker on Thursday “not to put a shine on recent events” in Iraq when they testify before Congress next week.

“I hope we don’t hear any glorification of what happened in Basra,” said Pelosi, referring to a recent military offensive against Shiite militants in the city led by the Iraqi government and supported by U.S. forces.

Although powerful Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr agreed to a ceasefire after six days of fighting, Pelosi wondered why the U.S. was caught off guard by the offensive and questioned how the ceasefire was achieved, saying “the terms were probably dictated from Iran.”

“We have to know the real ground truths of what is happening there, not put a shine on events because of a resolution that looks less violent when it fact it has been dictated by al-Sadr, who can grant or withhold that call for violence,” Pelosi said.

Petraeus, the top military commander in Iraq, and Crocker, the U.S. ambassador, will make their return to Capitol Hill on April 8 and 9 to deliver their assessment of the situation on the ground in Iraq.

So far, Petraeus and Crocker have made very few public comments about the situation in Basra, but many Republicans have hailed it as an example of the Iraqi government standing up and further proof that President Bush’s troop surge is working.

Republicans took issue Thursday with the notion that Petraeus would use events in Iraq to advance a political agenda.

"Gen. Petraeus . . . is not a political figure," said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio). "The testimony he gives reflects the facts on the ground. If he reports that the security situation in Iraq is improving, as we hope he does, he will be echoing the assessment of many Democratic House members who have visited Iraq recently. Our priorities should be learning the facts and acting on them, not using any development as a pretext for irresponsible withdrawal."

Pelosi held a press conference Thursday morning with House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton (D-Mo.) and House Foreign Affairs Chairman Howard Berman (D-Calif.) to preview their message ahead of the visit from Petraeus and Crocker.


(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL)

red states rule
04-03-2008, 02:13 PM
Yet another example of how Dems "support" the troops.

How typical of the party of surrender and appeasement

mundame
04-03-2008, 02:15 PM
Have the Dem leaders nothing better to do, than repeatedly smear the most successful general in the entire Iraq war, to fit their own political agenda?


"the most successful general" isn't saying much, given that no general has won the war or come even close.

And the Dem leaders are no different from the Pentagon in not liking Petraeus.

All the Pentagon wants is OUT of this war; they've been making that clear for a year and a quarter now.

Until we get out of this war, nothing can even start to improve, IMO.

Petraeus is going to say he wants to go on and on and on and on, just like McCain does. No end. No victory. Just a forever march through the swamp and the whole country down the drain along with the war.

The person who will be a hero to me is the person who can get us OUT of that godforsaken battlezone. And that is not likely to be Petraeus.

red states rule
04-03-2008, 02:17 PM
"the most successful general" isn't saying much, given that no general has won the war or come even close.

And the Dem leaders are no different from the Pentagon in not liking Petraeus.

All the Pentagon wants is OUT of this war; they've been making that clear for a year and a quarter now.

Until we get out of this war, nothing can even start to improve, IMO.

Petraeus is going to say he wants to go on and on and on and on, just like McCain does. No end. No victory. Just a forever march through the swamp and the whole country down the drain along with the war.

The person who will be a hero to me is the person who can get us OUT of that godforsaken battlezone. And that is not likely to be Petraeus.


Why are libs so obsessed with snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?

jimnyc
04-03-2008, 02:19 PM
The Dem leaders are idiots. When I think of Reid, Pelosi, Dean, Clinton, Feinstein... it makes me giggle that such a pack of rhetoric spewing haters can be the "face" of their party.

actsnoblemartin
04-03-2008, 02:24 PM
because their retarded :laugh2:


Why are libs so obsessed with snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?

red states rule
04-03-2008, 02:25 PM
The Dem leaders are idiots. When I think of Reid, Pelosi, Dean, Clinton, Feinstein... it makes me giggle that such a pack of rhetoric spewing haters can be the "face" of their party.

Jim, the modern day Dem party is running on nothing but hate and racism

Have you seen any Dem say anything good anout America? How America is a land where anyone succeed, and have no limits on their success?

Can you see Ronald Reagan giving a Hillary or Obama speech?

actsnoblemartin
04-03-2008, 02:27 PM
they say positive stuff about america

rich white people

fucking w****

uncle tom

Guess not :laugh2:


Jim, the modern day Dem party is running on nothing but hate and racism

Have you seen any Dem say anything good anout America? How America is a land where anyone succeed, and have no limits on their success?

Can you see Ronald Reagan giving a Hillary or Obama speech?

red states rule
04-03-2008, 02:50 PM
they say positive stuff about america

rich white people

fucking w****

uncle tom

Guess not :laugh2:

That is about as positive as liberal can get

When they walk into a room, their sneer lights up the room

avatar4321
04-03-2008, 05:20 PM
did they ever stop to think that maybe it would be a good idea to wait till someone says something before you attack him for it? how do they know he wont come out and say Iraq is a bloodbath?

red states rule
04-04-2008, 06:14 AM
The last thing Dems want to hear is any good news on Iraq. They are determeined to surrender to the terrorists, and hand over Iraq to them on a silver platter

She will give Gen Petreaus her book "Democrates Plan To Fight Terrorism"

The pages are blank

bullypulpit
04-04-2008, 06:23 AM
Last time they did this, it backfired huge as people realized they were calling the man a liar (and a traitor) before he had even said a word.

Now they are trying it again, pretending he will twist his report for political purposes. Given the negative results these attempts usually give the Dems, one has to believe there is something major in this coming report, that Dems are desperately trying to keep people from hearing or believing. It's so bad for them, that they are willing to risk the same negative results again, in this latest attempt to call the man a liar before he has even given the report.

Have the Dem leaders nothing better to do, than repeatedly smear the most successful general in the entire Iraq war, to fit their own political agenda?

----------------------------------------------------

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9370.html

Pelosi warns Petraeus on Iraq testimony

By DANIEL W. REILLY
4/3/08 1:16 PM EST

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) warned Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker on Thursday “not to put a shine on recent events” in Iraq when they testify before Congress next week.

“I hope we don’t hear any glorification of what happened in Basra,” said Pelosi, referring to a recent military offensive against Shiite militants in the city led by the Iraqi government and supported by U.S. forces.

Although powerful Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr agreed to a ceasefire after six days of fighting, Pelosi wondered why the U.S. was caught off guard by the offensive and questioned how the ceasefire was achieved, saying “the terms were probably dictated from Iran.”

“We have to know the real ground truths of what is happening there, not put a shine on events because of a resolution that looks less violent when it fact it has been dictated by al-Sadr, who can grant or withhold that call for violence,” Pelosi said.

Petraeus, the top military commander in Iraq, and Crocker, the U.S. ambassador, will make their return to Capitol Hill on April 8 and 9 to deliver their assessment of the situation on the ground in Iraq.

So far, Petraeus and Crocker have made very few public comments about the situation in Basra, but many Republicans have hailed it as an example of the Iraqi government standing up and further proof that President Bush’s troop surge is working.

Republicans took issue Thursday with the notion that Petraeus would use events in Iraq to advance a political agenda.

"Gen. Petraeus . . . is not a political figure," said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio). "The testimony he gives reflects the facts on the ground. If he reports that the security situation in Iraq is improving, as we hope he does, he will be echoing the assessment of many Democratic House members who have visited Iraq recently. Our priorities should be learning the facts and acting on them, not using any development as a pretext for irresponsible withdrawal."

Pelosi held a press conference Thursday morning with House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton (D-Mo.) and House Foreign Affairs Chairman Howard Berman (D-Calif.) to preview their message ahead of the visit from Petraeus and Crocker.


(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL)

It is such a shame that reality has a liberal bias. Where do you see a "smear" in this article? Oh....That's right! Facts which contradict Bush administration policy are ALL products of a vast left-wing conspiracy.

Dilloduck
04-04-2008, 06:25 AM
It is such a shame that reality has a liberal bias. Where do you see a "smear" in this article? Oh....That's right! Facts which contradict Bush administration policy are ALL products of a vast left-wing conspiracy.


Pelosi wondered why the U.S. was caught off guard by the offensive and questioned how the ceasefire was achieved, saying “the terms were probably dictated from Iran.”

not a fact---conjecture

bullypulpit
04-04-2008, 06:25 AM
Yet another example of how Dems "support" the troops.

How typical of the party of surrender and appeasement

Your problem is obvious.

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bullypulpit
04-04-2008, 06:27 AM
not a fact---conjecture

And just what conjecture might that be?

Dilloduck
04-04-2008, 06:28 AM
the use of the word "probably" certainly doesn't denote a fact.

red states rule
04-04-2008, 07:05 AM
It is such a shame that reality has a liberal bias. Where do you see a "smear" in this article? Oh....That's right! Facts which contradict Bush administration policy are ALL products of a vast left-wing conspiracy.

The smear is the Dems want Gen Petreus to tell them what they want to hear.

The US is losing in Iraq

Dems are not interested in anything else except surrender

Dilloduck
04-04-2008, 07:24 AM
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) warned Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker on Thursday “not to put a shine on recent events” in Iraq when they testify before Congress next week.

Threats ?? I bet he's scared. :laugh2:

mundame
04-04-2008, 08:53 AM
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She's warning him not to lie and propagandize.

Ha. There's a hope. Petraeus, like McCain and Bush, wants the war to go on endlessly. Uselessly. Forever. Of course Petraeus is going to lie, like a carpet.

I sure can't see why it should go on forever, though. It's bad for Iraqis, it's bad for us, it's bad for the soldiers, it's bad for the American taxpayers.


If any of these useless candidates we are suffering through does choose to keep the war going --- and I've given up supposing any one of them will end it till they actually DO that --- the war will eat his or her administration. Just like it has eaten Bush's whole administration.

But whatever. There doesn't seem any way to stop this idiocy. If someone showed up whom I believed WOULD stop it, they'd have my vote.

mundame
04-04-2008, 09:40 AM
This is the audience Petraeus will be speaking to:


Americans: Nation on wrong track (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/americans_nation_on_wrong_trac.html)
Baltimore Sun - <NOBR>1 hour ago</NOBR>
by Mark Silva
More than 80 percent of Americans surveyed say the country is headed in the wrong direction, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll -- recording the highest measure of discontent since this poll started...

bullypulpit
04-04-2008, 10:56 AM
the use of the word "probably" certainly doesn't denote a fact.

'Fact', as in the facts on the ground.

red states rule
04-04-2008, 03:21 PM
'Fact', as in the facts on the ground.

The surrender monkeys are not interested in the facts on the ground.

They want to hear how rotten things are, and how the US is losing the war

Dems want to surredner as quickly as possible before the election, and hope a real civil war breaks out

theHawk
04-04-2008, 03:25 PM
This is the audience Petraeus will be speaking to:


Americans: Nation on wrong track (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/americans_nation_on_wrong_trac.html)
Baltimore Sun - <NOBR>1 hour ago</NOBR>
by Mark Silva
More than 80 percent of Americans surveyed say the country is headed in the wrong direction, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll -- recording the highest measure of discontent since this poll started...


And we all know the CBS and NYT don't have biased polling. :poke:

red states rule
04-04-2008, 03:28 PM
And we all know the CBS and NYT don't have biased polling. :poke:

The liberal media has been known to do the poll over if they do not like the results they get the first time