Enviro-whackos angry at ballplayer for hunting feral pigs, coyotes from copter

[Little-Acorn]

Wild hogs and coyotes are regarded as pests on large ranches, and are regularly hunted by owners to reduce the damage they do to livestock, vegetation, etc.

Apparently these enviro-airbrains would be happier if the hunter gave the wild animals a sporting chance to kill him at the same time. Using a helicopter just isn't fair!

Not that there is no concern for the well-being of the man's ranch, danger to other animals and even the man's family posed by the wild hogs and coyotes, etc.

Can these people get any more nutty?

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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58459

Major-leaguer ripped for hunting from air

Environmentalists demand team order player to stop shooting from helicopter

Posted: March 09, 2008
4:48 pm Eastern

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. – A Major League Baseball pitcher is catching heat from an environmental group because of his off-season hunting of wild hogs and coyotes via helicopter.

Logan Kensing, a reliever for the Florida Marlins, is targeted by the Palm Beach County Environmental Coalition, according to the Palm Beach Post.

"We want the Marlins to make him agree to stop," the group's co-chair, attorney Barry Silver, told the paper.

Silver sent a strongly worded letter yesterday to team owner Jeffrey Loria.

"They have 10 days from Monday to reprimand the player for behavior that isn't one of a role model," he told the Post. "If they don't, we will be persistent. We'll infiltrate the fans and pull out signs. We'll picket. If we're willing to have 27 people arrested, it's obvious we're committed."

In a Feb. 21 interview with the Post, Kensing said he wasn't bothered by the protest: "They can come at me if they want to."

The native Texan, 25, explained hunting down the hogs is part of maintaining his family's ranch.

"We make money off our land. Those pigs destroy everything," he said. "Each litter, which happens three times a year, is gonna have 12 pigs, and 60 percent are females."

Kensing described his method.

"The pilot's pretty good. He gets right next to them. We spot them, he flies in sideways, glides and we shoot them."

He even provided video of one of his chopper excursions as he scoped for the animals.

An outraged Dan Liftman, a green-minded aide to U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings, took the clipping to the monthly meeting of Silver's crew.

"I thought it was pretty sick," said Liftman, an aide to U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla. "That's his fun? Shooting animals from a helicopter? I think that's a little crazy."

Said Silver: "When killing becomes mechanized, it's all too easy. Scientific literature makes it clear that when someone engages in violence against animals, that person is more likely to commit violence against people."

Kensing points out he's not committing any crime, adding he and his teammates once rescued an injured baby raccoon on a Florida golf course, nursing it for four days before turning it over to a shelter.

[Monkeybone]

i love the whole "if you don't impose our views on your life, then you'll be sorry approach"

for fun? i must've missed in there where he talks about the good times and the BBQ after the shooting is all done. all i saw was where they caused problems and needed to be dealt with.

[hjmick]

I wonder if Kensing will be letting outsiders do some hunting on the family ranch? Sounds exciting what with the helicopter and all.

[Monkeybone]

I wonder if Kensing will be letting outsiders do some hunting on the family ranch? Sounds exciting what with the helicopter and all.

that was my first thought. i wonder what kinda gun that he uses. have seen the videos where they do it with a net gun.

and then we could have a BBQ!

[Mr. P]

The pigs are a big problem here in GA.


Eradication Options
Farmers looking to eradicate feral hogs have several options. Feral hogs may be hunted year round on private lands with a valid hunting license. Also, the Georgia Department of Natural Resources issues feral hog control permits to commercial agricultural operations of three or more acres experiencing crop damage. These permits allow permittees and authorized assistants to shoot feral hogs from a vehicle not on a public road with the aid of a 12-volt light in the immediate vicinity of bait at night. These permits are not valid March 11-May 15 nor from Sept. 1 through the end of firearms deer season. DNR feral hog permits are issued through the department’s seven regional offices. Anyone interested in receiving a permit or with questions should call the state office at (770) 918-6416, Monday-Friday from 8 a.m.-4:30 p.m.

Call in the U.S. Army!
Farmers who don’t have time to hunt may want to contact Master Sergeant Rod Pinkston, who manages the Olympic Shooting Team for the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit at Fort Benning. http://www.gfb.org/gfbnews/feb-mar07/feb_mar6.htm

[diuretic]

They're either lazy or wusses. People here hunt feral pigs on the ground, not from the air, that's just piss weak, stuffed upholstery hunting.

[Little-Acorn]

They're either lazy or wusses. People here hunt feral pigs on the ground, not from the air, that's just piss weak, stuffed upholstery hunting.

Didn't even read Mr.P's post, did you. Somehow it's not "sporting" to knock off vermin from the air.

No wonder ignorant people expect gunfights in the streets if law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry without restriction. They think everyone has your attitude. If everyone did, I'd almost think the gun-paranoids had a point.

[Mr. P]

They're either lazy or wusses. People here hunt feral pigs on the ground, not from the air, that's just piss weak, stuffed upholstery hunting.

Maybe they don't have a couple hundred acres to manage? Just a thought. :poke:

[hjmick]

It's Texas. 'Nuff said.

[DragonStryk72]

This is a complete waste of time. The Enviro guys oculd simply relocate the animals, though I don't see them offering that. Farmers and ranchers have to hunt the critters that would destroy their land, it's a business. He doesn't seem to hate the pigs or coyotes, he just can;t have them there.

And seriously, come on, if you guys had ready access to a chopper, tell me you wouldn't honestly have considered the same thing.

[diuretic]

Didn't even read Mr.P's post, did you. Somehow it's not "sporting" to knock off vermin from the air.

No wonder ignorant people expect gunfights in the streets if law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry without restriction. They think everyone has your attitude. If everyone did, I'd almost think the gun-paranoids had a point.

Thanks for the personal remarks.

[diuretic]

Maybe they don't have a couple hundred acres to manage? Just a thought. :poke:

Taking of vermin from the air something that's done here as well due to the huge size of pastoral properties. But it's done in a business-like manner by businesses that specialise in it as well as by landholders who have to comply with certain requirements.

To treat it as something approach a bit of sport is what I was aiming at.

This is hunting -
http://www.ausafari.com.au/wild_boar_hunting_north_queensland.htm

This is pest control - https://www.tenderlink.com/Tenderers/2744.2/searchpages/PestControl_closed.htm

I don't have a problem with hunting. I don't have a problem with pest control either. I know the difference.

[bullypulpit]

If you've got a lot of territory to cover, there's really little alternative to using a chopper. And when you got critters as destructive to property as feral pigs, you've simply got to get rid of them. If the coyotes are decimating your livestock, they have to go too.

But the economic damage to farmers and ranchers is not an issue for the environmental lunatic fringe. Just like the damage to the environment from oil exploration and other human activity is irrelevant to the right wing-nut fringe. Gotta find the balance.

[diuretic]

Fair points. But I suppose I'm used to certain standards being adhered to when it comes to hunting and to vermin control. I suppose I should be grateful napalm wasn't considered.

But then this thread wasn't about hunting or vermin control. It was just another "look at the wackos" effort.

[Little-Acorn]

Pretty strange "standards". They don't allow use of a helicopter in controlling vermin over a range many miles across? Why not?

[Little-Acorn]

(continued from previous post, after the editor hung and didn't let me get this part in within the allotted ten minutes)

Of course, vermin control was exactly what it was about... until the leftist whackos started becoming obnoxious and making fools of themselves. THEY are the ones demanding we pay attention to them... and they'll do their best to disrupt the ballplayer's livelihood until he kowtows to their silly agenda.

You don't like "look at the whackos" threads? Go tell them to stop acting like whackos, and there won't be any threads about them. There isn't much that sensible people like this ballplayer can do about them - they keep erupting every now and then, like spoiled, disruptive third-graders in a public library, whether he likes it or not. As long as they do, the best that sensible people can do, is to keep pointing out how irrelevant and silly they are, so that others won't be mislead into thinking they have something worthwhile to say.

[eighballsidepocket]

They're either lazy or wusses. People here hunt feral pigs on the ground, not from the air, that's just piss weak, stuffed upholstery hunting.

Even here in anti-gun/hunting liberal California, us hunters know better than to assume that hunting Wild Boar or Ferral Pigs is being wuussy from a helicopter.

A hunter carries a nice powerful rifle......i.e. a 30-06, and also a nice 45 or 40 calibre pistol as a back-up when that Wild Pig comes charging at you, if you wing it or startle it.

Shooting from a helicopter is safer for the hunter, but would be very expensive for most hunters. Most of the Boar hunting in California is in very steep, brushy, dry terrain, and I don't think helicopters would work out too well.

All I know, is when faced with a charging 400lb. Boar, it isn't a matter of being macho, or a wuz........it's whether that pig is going to flatten you down, and knaw your leg off or worse.

[bullypulpit]

Fair points. But I suppose I'm used to certain standards being adhered to when it comes to hunting and to vermin control. I suppose I should be grateful napalm wasn't considered.

But then this thread wasn't about hunting or vermin control. It was just another "look at the wackos" effort.

Having been a hunter, I took my game fair and square, with rifle, shotgun or bow on my own two legs, and we ate everything we brought home. Pest/vermin control is a different story.

But you're right...the "look at the wackos" angle gets really tiresome.

[bullypulpit]

<b>Even here in anti-gun/hunting liberal California, us hunters know better than to assume that hunting Wild Boar or Ferral Pigs is being wuussy from a helicopter.

A hunter carries a nice powerful rifle......i.e. a 30-06, and also a nice 45 or 40 calibre pistol as a back-up when that Wild Pig comes charging at you, if you wing it or startle it.</b>

Shooting from a helicopter is safer for the hunter, but would be very expensive for most hunters. Most of the Boar hunting in California is in very steep, brushy, dry terrain, and I don't think helicopters would work out too well.

All I know, is when faced with a charging 400lb. Boar, it isn't a matter of being macho, or a wuz........it's whether that pig is going to flatten you down, and knaw your leg off or worse.

Try tellin' that to the guys who go boar-spearing just to get their kicks. But even they carry a big bore hand gun for backup

[Monkeybone]

Try tellin' that to the guys who go boar-spearing just to get their kicks. But even they carry a big bore hand gun for backup

i love to hunt so don't get me wrong, but if there is one form of hunting that i would outlaw/get rid of, it is spear hunting. i hate it. be it boars or bears. that is inhuman, to put the animals through that.

[Mr. P]

i love to hunt so don't get me wrong, but if there is one form of hunting that i would outlaw/get rid of, it is spear hunting. i hate it. be it boars or bears. that is inhuman, to put the animals through that.

I've never heard of spear hunting. I would agree it seems inhumane. I think Bow hunting is inhumane. It seems to me an arrow is nothing more than a mini spear projected at a higher rate of speed.

[Monkeybone]

I've never heard of spear hunting. I would agree it seems inhumane. I think Bow hunting is inhumane. It seems to me an arrow is nothing more than a mini spear projected at a higher rate of speed.

the bow is atleast razor blades, so it doesn't hurt as much. and they just kinda die then. as where when you are spear hunting bears, you are up in a tree stand and wait for the bear to come under you and then drive a hundred (sometimes heavier) spear into it's spine or as close as you can get. nasty.

[Little-Acorn]

But you're right...the "look at the wackos" angle gets really tiresome.

Tell them to stop acting like whackos, and there won't be any more threads about them. Until then, you'll have to put up with them just like the rest of us do.

The difference is, conservatives think they're funny, and get a kick out of watching them and pointing out how silly they are acting. Liberals think their weirdness is "getting old", because they invariably form part of the liberal coalition, and are dragging down the liberal cause with their nutty antics.

That's what you get for pushing an unworkable and indefensible agenda (modern liberalism) - the only people you can get to support you are people who want something for nothing and don't mind stealing to get it... and even loonier nutcases like these environmental whackos.