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LiberalNation
03-09-2008, 08:10 PM
and we're getting so much back out of it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080309/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_war_costs;_ylt=Amscpjg0Dz4hqkS7KnFHCZis0NUE

The flow of blood may be ebbing, but the flood of money into the Iraq war is steadily rising, new analyses show. In 2008, its sixth year, the war will cost approximately $12 billion a month, triple the "burn" rate of its earliest years, Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph E. Stiglitz and co-author Linda J. Bilmes report in a new book.

Beyond 2008, working with "best-case" and "realistic-moderate" scenarios, they project the Iraq and Afghan wars, including long-term U.S. military occupations of those countries, will cost the U.S. budget between $1.7 trillion and $2.7 trillion — or more — by 2017.

Interest on money borrowed to pay those costs could alone add $816 billion to that bottom line, they say.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has done its own projections and comes in lower, forecasting a cumulative cost by 2017 of $1.2 trillion to $1.7 trillion for the two wars, with Iraq generally accounting for three-quarters of the costs.

Variations in such estimates stem from the sliding scales of assumptions, scenarios and budget items that are counted. But whatever the estimate, the cost will be huge, the auditors of the Government Accountability Office say.

In a Jan. 30 report to Congress, the GAO observed that the U.S. will be committing "significant" future resources to the wars, "requiring decision makers to consider difficult trade-offs as the nation faces an increasing long-range fiscal challenge."

These numbers don't include the war's cost to the rest of the world. In Iraq itself, the 2003 U.S.-led invasion — with its devastating air bombardments — and the looting and arson that followed, severely damaged electricity and other utilities, the oil industry, countless factories, hospitals, schools and other underpinnings of an economy.

No one has tried to calculate the economic damage done to Iraq, said spokesman Niels Buenemann of the International Monetary Fund, which closely tracks national economies. But millions of Iraqis have been left without jobs, and hundreds of thousands of professionals, managers and other middle-class citizens have fled the country.

In their book, "The Three Trillion Dollar War," Stiglitz, of Columbia University, and Bilmes, of Harvard, report the two wars will have cost the U.S. budget $845 billion in 2007 dollars by next Sept. 30, end of fiscal year 2008, assuming Congress fully funds Bush administration requests. That counts not just military operations, but embassy costs, reconstruction and other war-related expenses.

That total far surpasses the $670 billion in 2007 dollars the Congressional Research Service says was the U.S. price tag for the 12-year Vietnam War.

Although American military and Iraqi civilian casualties have declined in recent months, the rate of spending has shot up. A fully funded 2008 war budget will be 155 percent higher than 2004's, the CBO reports.

The reasons are numerous: the "surge" of additional U.S. units into Iraq; rising fuel costs; fattened bonuses to attract re-enlistments; and particularly the need to "reset," that is, repair or replace worn-out, destroyed or damaged military equipment. Almost $17 billion is appropriated this year for advanced armored vehicles to protect troops against roadside bombs.

gabosaurus
03-10-2008, 09:52 AM
Hey! We're getting a lot of dead bodies out of it!!

Here is my favorite part of the report. And we wonder why the rest of the world dislikes us:


These numbers don't include the war's cost to the rest of the world. In Iraq, the 2003 U.S.-led invasion and the looting and arson that followed, severely damaged electricity and other utilities, the oil industry, countless factories, hospitals, schools and other underpinnings of an economy.

No one has tried to calculate the economic damage done to Iraq, said spokesman Niels Buenemann of the International Monetary Fund, which closely tracks national economies. But millions of Iraqis have been left without jobs, and hundreds of thousands of professionals, managers and other middle-class citizens have fled the country.

Sitarro
03-10-2008, 10:20 AM
Hey! We're getting a lot of dead bodies out of it!!

Here is my favorite part of the report. And we wonder why the rest of the world dislikes us:

I met a Doctor the other day, an Orthopaedic Surgeon that diagnosed what damage I had done to my arm recently. He was from Iraq, fled when Saddam took over........ he was lucky enough to have the means to take his family away. He is now an American citizen and loves his adopted country. He pays a great deal of taxes, being a surgeon and expressed a great love for President Bush for having the courage to do what the rest of the world wouldn't. He disagrees with you and your chickenshit party.

Monkeybone
03-10-2008, 10:31 AM
Hey! We're getting a lot of dead bodies out of it!!

Here is my favorite part of the report. And we wonder why the rest of the world dislikes us:

yes we attacked and broke up their police force/soldiers. but the looting and arson and such was by their own ppl. it is hard to get electricity going when they steal the poles and wires faster than you can put them up.

yes we destabalized. but we're trying to fix it. most of their other problems are sadly caused by their own people. too bad we just can't make them leave, fix it and then let them back in.

gabosaurus
03-10-2008, 11:02 AM
Don't forget that our invasion also let in the terrorist factions that are destabilizing the country. They were not welcome before.

So the fact that a wealthy Iraqi doctor was able to leave and come to the U.S. is cause that the invasion was a success? Why didn't he stay and help his own country?

Yurt
03-10-2008, 02:35 PM
Don't forget that our invasion also let in the terrorist factions that are destabilizing the country. They were not welcome before.

So the fact that a wealthy Iraqi doctor was able to leave and come to the U.S. is cause that the invasion was a success? Why didn't he stay and help his own country?

so you advocate returning Iraq to a Saddam style rule?

Sitarro
03-10-2008, 04:23 PM
Don't forget that our invasion also let in the terrorist factions that are destabilizing the country. They were not welcome before.

So the fact that a wealthy Iraqi doctor was able to leave and come to the U.S. is cause that the invasion was a success? Why didn't he stay and help his own country?

I didn't interview him, I asked him a few questions when I found out he was from Iraq, it's not like we went to lunch, Orthopaedic Surgeons are a bit busy.