male officers strip search female victim

[Trigg]

This is a disturbing video. I personnally don't blame the woman for trying to fight them off, this is awful.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ8uUOiXcCo

[nevadamedic]

This is a disturbing video. I personnally don't blame the woman for trying to fight them off, this is awful.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ8uUOiXcCo

That violates many procedures. I know at my job, if I make an arrest on a female and I don't have a female agent with me, I just restrain and search the immediate area by the handcuffs with a female witness there of course and leave it for the police.

[AFbombloader]

Absolutely horrible.

[Dilloduck]

Absolutely horrible.

It's half a story. Having seen first hand how even the nicest appearing people act in certain situations I'm going to withhold judgement.

[AFbombloader]

It's half a story. Having seen first hand how even the nicest appearing people act in certain situations I'm going to withhold judgement.

It is half a story but what happened was horrible. How did I place judgement? I made no comment on the police or the woman. It did appear to me to be excessive, but I am not an officer and may not have sen the whole story. I too wait fot the rest of the story.

AF:salute:

[Pale Rider]

That violates many procedures. I know at my job, if I make an arrest on a female and I don't have a female agent with me, I just restrain and search the immediate area by the handcuffs with a female witness there of course and leave it for the police.

You're not even a real cop ya two bit rent a pig. If you even began to imporperly touch somebody, they could sue the shit out of you, and you'd be FIRED!

I don't trust cops at all. That was completely uncalled for, and the men had no business in there. I hope this woman sues those pigs out of a job and into the poor house. Arrogant mother fuckers.

[Trigg]

It's half a story. Having seen first hand how even the nicest appearing people act in certain situations I'm going to withhold judgement.

I'm sorry, but two men holding a woman down while she is stripped naked in front of them is disgusting and against any protocal I have ever heard of.

[5stringJeff]

That violates many procedures. I know at my job, if I make an arrest on a female and I don't have a female agent with me, I just restrain and search the immediate area by the handcuffs with a female witness there of course and leave it for the police.

You're a rent-a-cop, without arrest authority.

[Yurt]

Like dillo said, this did not show the whole thing. When you are arrested and then booked into a cell, you must give up all your clothes and be put into an orange jumpsuit. Maybe she fought this order, I don't know.

[glockmail]

This is sensationalism at its worst. I'm betting that the woman was deranged, unruly, and not submitting to wearing the required jail uniform, and therefore got what she deserved.

[Mr. P]

It's half a story. Having seen first hand how even the nicest appearing people act in certain situations I'm going to withhold judgement.


Like dillo said, this did not show the whole thing. When you are arrested and then booked into a cell, you must give up all your clothes and be put into an orange jumpsuit. Maybe she fought this order, I don't know.

I'm with these two. I'll add this.........

I watched it once..My first clue regarding the strip was her answer to this question: Have you ever thought about hurting yourself? Her answer: What, now or anytime? Folks, that's a common question when booking in order to determine if someone may be suicidal. She was a smart-ass (maybe) and had her closes removed. Clothes can be knotted and make a good noose yea know? I think the cops did the right thing and the only thing they could responsibly do based on her answer.

In other words, she brought the strip upon herself. IMO

[Pale Rider]

I'm with these two. I'll add this.........

I watched it once..My first clue regarding the strip was her answer to this question: Have you ever thought about hurting yourself? Her answer: What, now or anytime? Folks, that's a common question when booking in order to determine if someone may be suicidal. She was a smart-ass (maybe) and had her closes removed. Clothes can be knotted and make a good noose yea know? I think the cops did the right thing and the only thing they could responsibly do based on her answer.

In other words, she brought the strip upon herself. IMO

I think you guys remember me mentioning that years ago I worked in a super maximum prison in Boscobel, Wisconsin. I learned a little bit about prison/jail protocol. Yes they can strip you and leave you in a cell naked, but two male officers holding down a female while other females strip her... oh no my friends, HUUUUUGE no no. Those male officers and that police department are in deep, deep shit. She's going to sue, and she's going to win.

[Yurt]

I think you guys remember me mentioning that years ago I worked in a super maximum prison in Boscobel, Wisconsin. I learned a little bit about prison/jail protocol. Yes they can strip you and leave you in a cell naked, but two male officers holding down a female while other females strip her... oh no my friends, HUUUUUGE no no. Those male officers and that police department are in deep, deep shit. She's going to sue, and she's going to win.

In CA, a male prison or jail correctional officer can strip a woman as well. Maybe different in WI.

[Pale Rider]

In CA, a male prison or jail correctional officer can strip a woman as well. Maybe different in WI.

Why doesn't that surprise me... :rolleyes:

I think she's got a good case, no matter what the law is on it. Two men and three women stripping one little 125 lb girl? I think that was excessive, course I have a biased opinion. I hate cops.

[Mr. P]

I think you guys remember me mentioning that years ago I worked in a super maximum prison in Boscobel, Wisconsin. I learned a little bit about prison/jail protocol. Yes they can strip you and leave you in a cell naked, but two male officers holding down a female while other females strip her... oh no my friends, HUUUUUGE no no. Those male officers and that police department are in deep, deep shit. She's going to sue, and she's going to win.


In CA, a male prison or jail correctional officer can strip a woman as well. Maybe different in WI.

A matter of muscle required, Pale..She was resisting..I think she'll lose if she sues.

[Yurt]

Why doesn't that surprise me... :rolleyes:

what if there aren't enough women COs? can't male reporters go into female locker rooms? or is it just the women into men's rooms?

edit: yes to Mr. P

[82Marine89]

That violates many procedures. I know at my job, if I make an arrest on a female and I don't have a female agent with me, I just restrain and search the immediate area by the handcuffs with a female witness there of course and leave it for the police.


You're not even a real cop ya two bit rent a pig. If you even began to imporperly touch somebody, they could sue the shit out of you, and you'd be FIRED!

I don't trust cops at all. That was completely uncalled for, and the men had no business in there. I hope this woman sues those pigs out of a job and into the poor house. Arrogant mother fuckers.


You're a rent-a-cop, without arrest authority.


NM saying that reminds me of the Gomer Pyle episode when he runs around yelling, "Citizens Arrest! Citizens Arrest!" :laugh2:

[Dilloduck]

NM saying that reminds me of the Gomer Pyle episode when he runs around yelling, "Citizens Arrest! Citizens Arrest!" :laugh2:

LMAO-----when Barney made a U-turn !!!:lmao::lmao:

[Mr. P]

NM saying that reminds me of the Gomer Pyle episode when he runs around yelling, "Citizens Arrest! Citizens Arrest!" :laugh2:

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: I'm chokin you putz!!!!

[Pale Rider]

A matter of muscle required, Pale..She was resisting..I think she'll lose if she sues.

She wouldn't in Wisconsin. The two male officers would already be on administrative leave pending charges. I don't know about anywhere else. If it was my wife they did that to, I'd sell everything last thing I owned to pay for lawyers. I'd sue them into the poor house, and quite possibly jail.

[Pale Rider]

what if there aren't enough women COs? can't male reporters go into female locker rooms? or is it just the women into men's rooms?

edit: yes to Mr. P

Reporters? Locker rooms? I'm losing ya pard.... :dunno:

I worked in a prison, not a sports stadium.

[Yurt]

She wouldn't in Wisconsin. The two male officers would already be on administrative leave pending charges. I don't know about anywhere else. If it was my wife they did that to, I'd sell everything last thing I owned to pay for lawyers. I'd sue them into the poor house, and quite possibly jail.

how do you get her into the jumpsuit -- which is required by law and if they don't and something happens when she is in clothes, they get sued -- when she resists and there aren't enough women to subdue her?

edit: locker rooms -- ok for opposite sex to see nude

[Pale Rider]

how do you get her into the jumpsuit -- which is required by law and if they don't and something happens when she is in clothes, they get sued -- when she resists and there aren't enough women to subdue her?

edit: locker rooms -- ok for opposite sex to see nude

Female officers. Female officers have to do it. You should have seen some of the neanderthal sized women we had working at the Supermax. If men were to touch a naked woman, they'd be in a world of trouble, legally.... in Wisconsin, in the prison system.

[82Marine89]

LMAO-----when Barney made a U-turn !!!:lmao::lmao:


:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: I'm chokin you putz!!!!

:laugh2:

[Pale Rider]

NM saying that reminds me of the Gomer Pyle episode when he runs around yelling, "Citizens Arrest! Citizens Arrest!" :laugh2:


LMAO-----when Barney made a U-turn !!!:lmao::lmao:


:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: I'm chokin you putz!!!!


:laugh2:

Aaaaaww c'mon you guys... take is easy on nm, or Sir Evil will come in here tell you all you're bitching about every little thing about the board.

[Dilloduck]

Aaaaaww c'mon you guys... take is easy on nm, or Sir Evil will come in here tell you all you're bitching about every little thing about the board.

Marine started it !!:poke::laugh2:

[Yurt]

Female officers. Female officers have to do it. You should have seen some of the neanderthal sized women we had working at the Supermax. If men were to touch a naked woman, they'd be in a world of trouble, legally.... in Wisconsin, in the prison system.

http://www.adultitis.org/media/woman_screaming.gif


:D

[nevadamedic]

You're not even a real cop ya two bit rent a pig. If you even began to imporperly touch somebody, they could sue the shit out of you, and you'd be FIRED!

I don't trust cops at all. That was completely uncalled for, and the men had no business in there. I hope this woman sues those pigs out of a job and into the poor house. Arrogant mother fuckers.

Interesting. I never pretended to be a cop. Nor am I even a rent-apig. You are just upset that I have amounted to more in 29 years then you or your life partner ever will.

[nevadamedic]

You're a rent-a-cop, without arrest authority.

Really? No arrest authority? Is that right? Explain that to the two or three I make per store a day. I am making the arrest, I am pressing the charges, I am restrianing and hooking up the crooks, I am photographing and fingerprinting the crooks, I transfer them over to the PD or SO. So tell me how that is not an arrest?

[Yurt]

Really? No arrest authority? Is that right? Explain that to the two or three I make per store a day. I am making the arrest, I am pressing the charges, I am restrianing and hooking up the crooks, I am photographing and fingerprinting the crooks, I transfer them over to the PD or SO. So tell me how that is not an arrest?

you are not "arresting" anyone. you are detaining them for a reasonable period of time assuming you have reason to believe a crime/theft was committed. it is called the shopkeeper's privilege. you should learn it and learn when and if you can ever exceed that privilege and make a privite citizen arrest.

i seriously can't believe you don't know this, afterall, you were "management" at bestbuy....

[nevadamedic]

you are not "arresting" anyone. you are detaining them for a reasonable period of time assuming you have reason to believe a crime/theft was committed. it is called the shopkeeper's privilege. you should learn it and learn when and if you can ever exceed that privilege and make a privite citizen arrest.

i seriously can't believe you don't know this, afterall, you were "management" at bestbuy....

I do know this. In the state of Nevada it is considered an arrest. Any detainment in Nevada is considered an arrest.

As far as a shopkeepers priviledge, that is not accurate. It is a form of a citizens arrest unless it is a Felony then the local PD or SO press the charges and not us.

As far as Best Buy, they arn't allowed to really detain or even restrain people. They can ask you to stay but that is about it. Thir Loss Prevention are basically glorified greeters.

[diuretic]

I didn't see a strip "search", I saw an arrested person stripped. Now there needs to be a very good reason for that. As has been pointed out, clothing can be used to hang oneself, if there's good reason to suspect that an arrested person may use their clothing to hang themselves then it's entirely possible in that jurisdiction that removing all clothing and anything else (eg blankets) that can be used for suicide is reasonable. That remains to be seen.

In the video the cops were calm. There was no yelling or screaming by them, no thumping of the woman, no leering or off-colour remarks by the male officers. They did their job - male and female - in a calm and dispassionate manner. They weren't punishing her (which happens) in the cell, they were taking her clothing and all other items that may have been used by her to kill herself.

Yes it's upsetting, but it's more upsetting to check in the cells and find an arrested person swinging from a hanging point.

[Psychoblues]

Do you expect for a moment these fear mongerers to understand what you just said?





I didn't see a strip "search", I saw an arrested person stripped. Now there needs to be a very good reason for that. As has been pointed out, clothing can be used to hang oneself, if there's good reason to suspect that an arrested person may use their clothing to hang themselves then it's entirely possible in that jurisdiction that removing all clothing and anything else (eg blankets) that can be used for suicide is reasonable. That remains to be seen.

In the video the cops were calm. There was no yelling or screaming by them, no thumping of the woman, no leering or off-colour remarks by the male officers. They did their job - male and female - in a calm and dispassionate manner. They weren't punishing her (which happens) in the cell, they were taking her clothing and all other items that may have been used by her to kill herself.

Yes it's upsetting, but it's more upsetting to check in the cells and find an arrested person swinging from a hanging point.

They are much more concerned with strip searching. It's a reich wing thing, I guess.

[Pale Rider]

Interesting. I never pretended to be a cop. Nor am I even a rent-apig. You are just upset that I have amounted to more in 29 years then you or your life partner ever will.

Is living in your mama's basement and working as a rent a pig for $8 an hour your idea of amounting to something? My Harley alone is worth more than you're total worth, and more than you make in a year.

Now go back to sucking your boyfriends dick ya loser.

[Yurt]

I do know this. In the state of Nevada it is considered an arrest. Any detainment in Nevada is considered an arrest.

As far as a shopkeepers priviledge, that is not accurate. It is a form of a citizens arrest unless it is a Felony then the local PD or SO press the charges and not us.

As far as Best Buy, they arn't allowed to really detain or even restrain people. They can ask you to stay but that is about it. Thir Loss Prevention are basically glorified greeters.

could you cite the nevada code that clarifies the shopkeeper privilege as such? power of arrest is a serious matter, and i would be interested to see how the NV legislature gave that power to shopkeepers. it is my understanding that NV follows the common law, which would be what I quoted above, but since you say that is not so, then there must be codified law to the contrary and i'm sure you know it as a security guard and you seem quite confident.

it also makes no sense why it is not a citizen's arrest when a felony, for a citizen, under common law, can arrest someone for a felony, of course different circumstances than a misd.

[5stringJeff]

Really? No arrest authority? Is that right? Explain that to the two or three I make per store a day. I am making the arrest, I am pressing the charges, I am restrianing and hooking up the crooks, I am photographing and fingerprinting the crooks, I transfer them over to the PD or SO. So tell me how that is not an arrest?


you are not "arresting" anyone. you are detaining them for a reasonable period of time assuming you have reason to believe a crime/theft was committed. it is called the shopkeeper's privilege. you should learn it and learn when and if you can ever exceed that privilege and make a privite citizen arrest.

i seriously can't believe you don't know this, afterall, you were "management" at bestbuy....

Thanks, Yurt, that's the point I was attempting to make.

[82Marine89]

could you cite the Nevada code that clarifies the shopkeeper privilege as such? power of arrest is a serious matter, and i would be interested to see how the NV legislature gave that power to shopkeepers. it is my understanding that NV follows the common law, which would be what I quoted above, but since you say that is not so, then there must be codified law to the contrary and I'm sure you know it as a security guard and you seem quite confident.

it also makes no sense why it is not a citizen's arrest when a felony, for a citizen, under common law, can arrest someone for a felony, of course different circumstances than a misd.

Now you're asking the hard questions. :slap:

:laugh2:

[Yurt]

Now you're asking the hard questions. :slap:

:laugh2:

:scared:

:popcorn:

[Immanuel]

Darn! I didn't see the video and now it says, "We're Sorry. This video is no longer available". What's up with that?

Immie