View Full Version : Kill trees by cutting off the branches?
gabosaurus
02-03-2008, 04:38 PM
My brother in law sent me an interesting essay. It's pretty long, so I will paraphrase some of the more important points:
Let's examine how we should deal with some of our society's gravest and most serious problems. I have a solution, based on a precedent now being set:
drug use
The best way to combat drug use is to arrest all the individual drug users and incarcerate them. Train our police to identify drug users and make sure we get all of them. Don't worry as much about drug labs, major dealers or crime syndicates. It is more important to get the users off the street.
prostitution
Emphasize arresting individual street prostitutes. They are more dangerous than the major rings and the big time pimps. Yes, there are huge organizations that employ the pimps and whores. But arresting the street walkers is a more effective way to deal with things.
organized crime
Identify and arrest all the petty thieves and criminals. Don't worry as much about the major players and big crime bosses. They only control the money and power. It is better to arrest all the street hustlers and put them away.
child pornography
Find a way to identify and arrest any and every individual who downloads and view kiddie porn. Make sure they are arrested and put away forever. Don't bother with the guys who produce and distribute kiddie porn. They are not as dangerous as the individual users.
Let's be uniform in how we solve our nation's most pressing problems. It is always better to start at the bottom. And stay there.
5stringJeff
02-04-2008, 08:31 PM
Link?
glockmail
02-04-2008, 09:21 PM
Link? From Gabby? :lol:
gabosaurus
02-05-2008, 12:12 PM
I just told you where I got it from. DOH...
Monkeybone
02-05-2008, 01:10 PM
that is pretty much how things are run anyways, atleast around here. you wanna go after someone big then that is Federal. Police/Special Task Forces handle all the things that you just listed
truthmatters
02-05-2008, 01:31 PM
If you want the Honey dont go killing all the bees.
Monkeybone
02-05-2008, 01:50 PM
of course something that also comes to mind with everything listed. They will all continue because humans are self serving no matter how low and vile and what not. they want control, they want a high, they want sex (no matter how preverted,ie child porn), they will do what they need to so that they can get it.
mrg666
02-05-2008, 02:57 PM
child pornography
Find a way to identify and arrest any and every individual who downloads and view kiddie porn. Make sure they are arrested and put away forever. Don't bother with the guys who produce and distribute kiddie porn. They are not as dangerous as the individual users.
is this real ?
so your saying that child mollesters and rapists should be left alone to record there vile deeds via video and pic , but we should arrest and lock up the evil bastards that watch it ? is that tao ism or crazy ism .
mfm is normaly the only one to get that kind of response from me i suppose times are changing
Dilloduck
02-05-2008, 03:02 PM
is this real ?
so your saying that child mollesters and rapists should be left alone to record there vile deeds via video and pic , but we should arrest and lock up the evil bastards that watch it ? is that tao ism or crazy ism .
mfm is normaly the only one to get that kind of response from me i suppose times are changing
Actually it's part of a little trick that Gabby is trying to pull on everyone. So the answer is no. It's not something that she really believes in.
gabosaurus
02-05-2008, 11:45 PM
In case you haven't figured it out (and obviously you haven't), each one of those four "solutions" mirrors our current policy toward illegal immigration. We worry a lot more about how to punish the immigrants, but don't really care about punishing their employers.
No jobs = no illegal immigrants. But perhaps that is too simple.
manu1959
02-05-2008, 11:52 PM
In case you haven't figured it out (and obviously you haven't), each one of those four "solutions" mirrors our current policy toward illegal immigration. We worry a lot more about how to punish the immigrants, but don't really care about punishing their employers.
No jobs = no illegal immigrants. But perhaps that is too simple.
no jobs = no goods and servcies .... won't work ..... need to bring both the employers and employees into compliance ....... with current state and federal tax and employment law and fine anyone that is not in compliance in 90 days.....
Dilloduck
02-05-2008, 11:58 PM
In case you haven't figured it out (and obviously you haven't), each one of those four "solutions" mirrors our current policy toward illegal immigration. We worry a lot more about how to punish the immigrants, but don't really care about punishing their employers.
No jobs = no illegal immigrants. But perhaps that is too simple.
:lmao::lmao:--you're so busted !!-------NOT :laugh2:
gabosaurus
02-05-2008, 11:58 PM
Not going to work. You either have to heavily fine the employers or put them out of business. Their goods and services will be provided by others who follow the law.
manu1959
02-06-2008, 12:04 AM
Not going to work. You either have to heavily fine the employers or put them out of business. Their goods and services will be provided by others who follow the law.
i guess the word fine in my statment eluded you.....
i warned you guys, 'ware the shrink
gabosaurus
02-06-2008, 12:32 AM
It's more than fines. The deep pockets employers can afford it a lot more than the worker with little or no money.
We are spending too much time and effort going after the small fish and not enough going after the big fish.
Like the poultry factory that got raided? All the illegal workers got deported. The factory owners were issued a small fine that got overturned in court. And they most likely hired more illegals the next day.
Shut the poultry factory down. Then they won't be able to hire anyone.
manu1959
02-06-2008, 12:35 AM
It's more than fines. The deep pockets employers can afford it a lot more than the worker with little or no money.
We are spending too much time and effort going after the small fish and not enough going after the big fish.
Like the poultry factory that got raided? All the illegal workers got deported. The factory owners were issued a small fine that got overturned in court. And they most likely hired more illegals the next day.
Shut the poultry factory down. Then they won't be able to hire anyone.
which candidate will impliment million dollar fines and close down companies.....
gabosaurus
02-06-2008, 01:11 AM
None of them. Which is why we will always have problems with illegal immigration. It's popular to talk about it, but unpopular to do anything about it.
5stringJeff
02-06-2008, 11:40 AM
Not going to work. You either have to heavily fine the employers or put them out of business. Their goods and services will be provided by others who follow the law.
So do you favor Arizona's new laws that punish employers of illegals?
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