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NATO AIR
01-17-2008, 10:36 AM
So they all but acknowledge that they can't compete if they have to offer a wage that actually is more than a dollar to someone who isn't a desperate illegal. Good for them, I hope they go out of business and go to jail if they're stupid enough to try to break it. And thank God for the judges who have common sense and have turned down the appeals.


ttp://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-01-09-immigcover_N.htm

But in late October, about 40 employees disappeared from the 600-acre nursery about an hour's drive from Tulsa. "Some went to Texas, some went to Arkansas," nursery President Randy Davis says. "They just left."

Why did the workers, all immigrants, flee? "Those states don't have 1804," Davis says.

In a matter of weeks, "1804" has become part of the Sooner State's lexicon. It refers to House Bill 1804, the Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act of 2007, arguably the nation's toughest state law targeting illegal immigrants.

Dozens of state legislatures, citing inaction by Congress, have adopted measures aimed at curbing illegal immigration. Oklahoma's new law, which took effect Nov. 1, is particularly far-reaching and has begun sending ripples through the state's economy and its immigrant communities. Besides highlighting the impact of illegal immigration on Oklahoma, the law has made the state a laboratory in the national debate over immigration.

The Oklahoma measure is broader than a controversial Arizona law that suspends or revokes business licenses of employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Among other things, 1804 makes it a felony to transport or shelter illegal immigrants. It also denies illegal immigrants driver's licenses and public benefits such as rental assistance and fuel subsidies.

Many business owners are especially nervous about provisions of 1804 that kick in July 1, when employers with government contracts must start checking new hires against a federal database to make sure they are legally eligible to work. If the employers don't, they won't get the contracts.

Nukeman
01-17-2008, 10:41 AM
All I can say is....

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Little-Acorn
01-17-2008, 11:39 AM
Biggest problem now, is partly that other states don't have 1804. So the illegals can still stay in the country if they just go to a more lenient state.

And the reason THAT loophole is there, is because the Fed govt isn't doing its Constitutional duty to defend the borders equally, for all states.

That's WHY the Constitution gives this power to the Fed instead of leaving it to the states: So that states wouldn't be able to screw each other by having differing standards on how to respond to lawbreakers who violate our borders. If the Fed would effectively and UNIFORMLY keep them out, then Oklahoma wouldn't have to draw the wrath of its commercial industries by forcing them to pay higher wages than Texas companies have to pay, by expelling illegals from OK while TX lets them come in and work.

As it is now, states who conform to the Federal law saying No Illegals, get penalized: Their industries can't compete with states that ignore Federal law and let illegals work. The complying states have to pay higher wages than the ignoring states do.

Either we have uniform laws on immigration, or we have chaos. The U.S. government has clearly chosen the latter. And we all suffer for it.

And which part of the U.S. government is at fault here? Not Congress. They made good enough laws long ago: No one can come in unless they are screened and issued a visa, which are given out in restricted numbers each year to avoid our country being swamped and de-Americanized.

The fault is in the execution and enforcement of those laws. And that job lies squarely in the hands of the Executive, also known as The President. Every President we've had at least since Ronald Reagan, has fallen flat on his face WRT our (perfectly adequate) immigration laws. This must change, hopefully on Jan. 20, 2009.

Relying on state laws to to the job the Fed refuses to do, will NEVER work. As long as a state can gain great benefit by ignoring Federal law while the neighboring states comply with it, we will never have adequate compliance.

Pale Rider
01-17-2008, 11:42 AM
The Oklahoma measure is broader than a controversial Arizona law that suspends or revokes business licenses of employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Among other things, 1804 makes it a felony to transport or shelter illegal immigrants. It also denies illegal immigrants driver's licenses and public benefits such as rental assistance and fuel subsidies.

Let's get this straight, these people are ILLEGAL ALIENS, NOT illegal immigrants. If you are in this country ILLEGALLY, you are a CRIMINAL, NOT an IMMIGRANT. I wish these sons a bitches would get that fucking STRAIGHT!