Senator McCain Gives Democrats A Run For Their Money

[nevadamedic]

Story Highlights

Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama would get over half the vote, poll finds
John McCain is the GOP candidate nearly tied with Democratic front-runners
Mitt Romney has the highest percentage of people who definitely will not vote for him

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/12/poll.matchups/index.html

Who would have thought, Senator McCain is starting to soar and Romney is starting to tank. Romney, Huckabee and Paul are all fads.

[82Marine89]

Senator McCain Gives Democrats A Run For Their Money

The true reason is he's more liberal than they are.

[nevadamedic]

The true reason is he's more liberal than they are.

No because Republican's, Independant's and Democrat's like him better.

[Yurt]

No because Republican's, Independant's and Democrat's like him better.

you just proved 82nd's point :poke:

[avatar4321]

Personally, i dont want the Republican candidate entering a race with the Democrats to be more liberal than the Democrat candidate.

[nevadamedic]

Personally, i dont want the Republican candidate entering a race with the Democrats to be more liberal than the Democrat candidate.

Then Don't vote for Romney.

[Yurt]

Then Don't vote for Romney.

Exactly why do you and WRD support McCain? You and WRD are like two peas in a pod.

[No1tovote4]

Then Don't vote for Romney.

Romney? Evidence, please. Don't vote for Huckabee if you don't want a uber-religious Democrat.

[avatar4321]

Then Don't vote for Romney.

Who exactly is supporting a global warming tax right now? McCain or Romney?
Who is advocating more tax cuts and budget cuts? McCain or Romney?
Who is for amnesty for illegals? McCain or Romney?
Who constructed the largest Congressional bill contrary to free speech in the country? McCain or Romney?
Who is for giving terrorists constitutional rights? McCain or Romney?
Who is for the amendment to ban gay marriage? McCain or Romney?

Face it dude. McCain is as liberal as the Republicans come.

[82Marine89]

No because Republican's, Independant's and Democrat's like him better.

Read this and tell me he's a Conservative.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=10765

[nevadamedic]

Read this and tell me he's a Conservative.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=10765

He's Conservative.

[red states rule]

He's Conservative.

McCain is no conservative NV


McCain is a RINO. Seems alot of people have forgot some of John Greatest Hits

I have not and neither has Mark Levin


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McCain-Feingold - the most brazen frontal assault on political speech since Buckley v. Valeo.
McCain-Kennedy — the most far-reaching amnesty program in American history.
McCain-Lieberman — the most onerous and intrusive attack on American industry — through reporting, regulating, and taxing authority of greenhouse gases — in American history.
McCain-Kennedy-Edwards — the biggest boon to the trial bar since the tobacco settlement, under the rubric of a patients’ bill of rights.
McCain-Reimportantion of Drugs — a significant blow to pharmaceutical research and development, not to mention consumer safety (hey Rudy, pay attention, see link).
And McCain’s stated opposition to the Bush 2001 and 2003 tax cuts was largely based on socialist, class-warfare rhetoric — tax cuts for the rich, not for the middle class. The public record is full of these statements. Today, he recalls only his insistence on accompanying spending cuts.
As chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, McCain was consistently hostile to American enterprise, from media and pharmaceutical companies to technology and energy companies.
McCain also led the Gang of 14, which prevented the Republican leadership in the Senate from mounting a rule change that would have ended the systematic use (actual and threatened) of the filibuster to prevent majority approval of judicial nominees.
And then there’s the McCain defense record.
His supporters point to essentially one policy strength, McCain’s early support for a surge and counterinsurgency. It has now evolved into McCain taking credit for forcing the president to adopt General David Petreaus’s strategy. Where’s the evidence to support such a claim?
Moreover, Iraq is an important battle in our war against the Islamo-fascist threat. But the war is a global war, and it most certainly includes the continental United States, which, after all, was struck on 9/11. How does McCain fare in that regard?
McCain-ACLU — the unprecedented granting of due-process rights to unlawful enemy combatants (terrorists).
McCain has repeatedly called for the immediate closing of Guantanamo Bay and the introduction of al-Qaeda terrorists into our own prisons — despite the legal rights they would immediately gain and the burdens of managing such a dangerous population.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...Y5NTZiOGNhOGQ=

[avatar4321]

He's Conservative.

Do you even know what a conservative is?

[PostmodernProphet]

you know, we have had a whole lot of posts about so and so not being conservative enough.....riddle me this....

will some of you only be happy if the Republicans nominate someone so conservative that only ten percent of the folks at the farthest right will vote for him?......

isn't the whole point of the nomination process finding someone who can get elected president?.....you seem to think it's goal is finding the ultimate "conservativist" conservative......

[Pale Rider]

McCain is stinking liberal piece of shit.

[5stringJeff]

He's Conservative.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I bet you think Michael Bloomberg and Arlen Specter are conservative too!

[jimnyc]

Nevadamedic, I'm curious as to WHY you think McCain is a conservative. Can you show us, specifically, what he stands for and what he has done that roots him to conservative principles?

[82Marine89]

you know, we have had a whole lot of posts about so and so not being conservative enough.....riddle me this....

will some of you only be happy if the Republicans nominate someone so conservative that only ten percent of the folks at the farthest right will vote for him?......

isn't the whole point of the nomination process finding someone who can get elected president?.....you seem to think it's goal is finding the ultimate "conservativist" conservative......

That 10% will always be alienated. The same for those on the far left. It will take a 3rd party candidate to satisfy them. I fully understand that compromises/lies need to be made in order to get elected, but to say McCain is a conservative is complete bullshit.

[jimnyc]

Nevadamedic, I'm curious as to WHY you think McCain is a conservative. Can you show us, specifically, what he stands for and what he has done that roots him to conservative principles?

Care to respond to this, NM?

[82Marine89]

Care to respond to this, NM?

Never happen. :cool:

[red states rule]

Care to respond to this, NM?

I would like to know what he has to say myself

[PostmodernProphet]

but to say McCain is a conservative is complete bullshit.

conservative/liberal is a sliding scale and every human being hold some of each within in them.....(those who don't should probably be put out of their misery now for the benefit of all humanity)......McCain is more conservative than Clinton, probably (if truth be known) more conservative than Bush......

as I recall, he was calling for a "surge" in Iraq a year before Bush and the generals on the ground did....and he was one of the few Republicans I recall speaking out against high spending in the last six years......I haven't decided who I am going to vote for yet, but whoever said they would vote for Clinton before the voted for McCain is a fool (or a Democrat, but that would be redundant)......

[jimnyc]

I would like to know what he has to say myself

My belief is that the question isn't being answered because he is incapable of doing so.

[nevadamedic]

Care to respond to this, NM?

http://www.johnmccain.com/Undecided/WhyMcCain.htm

[jimnyc]

http://www.johnmccain.com/Undecided/WhyMcCain.htm

That's not what I asked for. Not in his words, I want YOU to tell us what he does that makes him a conservative. What main conservative principles does he stand for.

[82Marine89]

That's not what I asked for. Not in his words, I want YOU to tell us what he does that makes him a conservative. What main conservative principles does he stand for.

There are presently three threads running with examples of why he is not a conservative. There are zero as to why he is a conservative. NM can not and most likely will not post anything that shows a conservative side of McCain.

[LiberalNation]

the war.......

[Pale Rider]

... but whoever said they would vote for Clinton before the voted for McCain is a fool (or a Democrat, but that would be redundant)......

Well... it was nm who said something very similiar. He did claim he was going to vote for hillary.

[GW in Ohio]

Story Highlights

Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama would get over half the vote, poll finds
John McCain is the GOP candidate nearly tied with Democratic front-runners
Mitt Romney has the highest percentage of people who definitely will not vote for him

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/12/poll.matchups/index.html

Who would have thought, Senator McCain is starting to soar and Romney is starting to tank. Romney, Huckabee and Paul are all fads.

McCain is the likeliest GOP nominee at this point.

In a general election, he would lose to Obama badly. He has two strikes against him:


He is too old for the presidency. He's older even than Reagan was. The contrast between McCain's age and Obama's youthful energy will work to McCain's detriment.
McCain is tied to the disastrous Bush Iraq policy. The Iraq war has been repudiated by 2/3 of the American people. None of the GOPers can win as long as they advocate the failed Bush foreign policy. Ron Paul is the only one who has repudiated the Bush doctrine.

[5stringJeff]

McCain is the likeliest GOP nominee at this point.

In a general election, he would lose to Obama badly. He has two strikes against him:


He is too old for the presidency. He's older even than Reagan was. The contrast between McCain's age and Obama's youthful energy will work to McCain's detriment.
McCain is tied to the disastrous Bush Iraq policy. The Iraq war has been repudiated by 2/3 of the American people. None of the GOPers can win as long as they advocate the failed Bush foreign policy. Ron Paul is the only one who has repudiated the Bush doctrine.


Don't forget: 3. Conservatives would run from McCain like the plague.