mccain...........

[manu1959]

what do all you hard line conservatives have against him....what is the deal breaker......

[nevadamedic]

A lot of people tell me it's the McCain-Feingold bill, which I don't know anything about and then his immigration issue. He has done a 180 on immigration and it listening to the people. Every candidate on the Republican ticket has made mistakes, it happens.

[avatar4321]

I don't think its just one thing. its a compound of things.

Campaign Finance Reform's restrictions on free speech
McCain-Kennedy Amnesty bill
Negotiating the surrender of the Constitutional option on Judicial nominations.

Those are the big three. and each one of them is pretty damning for me. There are other things, but they arent as important to me. The fact is McCain has a strong record on compromising on issues important to conservatives. and Im sick and tired of it.

McCain's one argument for him is that he supported the surge before it was popular. Ill give him that. But honestly, I have no clue what he did other than speak out for it. I dont know if he tried to convince the President to persude that route or how deeply he was in getting it implimented. He doesnt tell us. It's quite possible it would have happened regardless of what he said. And if the one good thing he has done, wasnt really done by him, why should i support him?

[avatar4321]

A lot of people tell me it's the McCain-Feingold bill, which I don't know anything about and then his immigration issue. He has done a 180 on immigration and it listening to the people. Every candidate on the Republican ticket has made mistakes, it happens.

No he hasnt. he still supports his amnesty. He just says he wants to secure the border first. I am not sure I can trust him on it. After all, his argument for restricting free speech in CFR was that all politicians, including himself, lie and are corrupt so we need to fix the institution.

I suggest you look into campaign finance reform.

[Mr. P]

what do all you hard line conservatives have against him....what is the deal breaker......

I wouldn't say I'm a 'hard line' conservative, but McCain IS really just a democrat.

[nevadamedic]

No he hasnt. he still supports his amnesty. He just says he wants to secure the border first. I am not sure I can trust him on it. After all, his argument for restricting free speech in CFR was that all politicians, including himself, lie and are corrupt so we need to fix the institution.

I suggest you look into campaign finance reform.

He does not support amnesty in any way, shape or form. He has changed his position completly from the Kennedy deal and back then he didn't support amnesty.

[Dilloduck]

He sucked up to Kerry when things went bad for him in the primaries---that was enough for me.

[avatar4321]

He does not support amnesty in any way, shape or form. He has changed his position completly from the Kennedy deal and back then he didn't support amnesty.

If McCain's bill is passed do Illegals get to stay? yes or no.

[hjmick]

McCain/Feingold

McCain/Leiberman

McCain/Kennedy

'Nuf said.

[Little-Acorn]

He does not support amnesty in any way, shape or form. He has changed his position completly from the Kennedy deal and back then he didn't support amnesty.

What bunk.

In the recent Republican debates he was asked exactly that, and pulled an almost Clintonesque waffle. He tried to say that since in his bill illegals would have to pay certain fines to get CITIZENSHIP, whereas genuine amnesty for illegally walking across the border would be free, therefore what he was supporting was not "amnesty".

Basically he pretended the questioner had asked about illegals getting citizenship, rather than illegals being allowed to stay in the U.S. A classic deflection.

And the reason he did that, was because he DOES favor illegals being allowed to stay without having to go back to the country they came from. Paying a fee is unimportant. Staying here IS important... and is the chief goal of most illegals. They could give two hoots about citizenship, they just want to stay here.

McCain knows that, and he knows the vast majority of citizens are AGAINST allowing illegals to stay in ANY way, fees or no fees. And so rather than clearly articulating what he stands for and why, McCain ducked and dodged and tried to pretend he didn't support letting them stay.

He's no better than the hordes of Democrats trying to push socialism on this country while pretending it's "progressive" or "kindhearted" or any of their other usual lies.

[manu1959]

so it would seem that...

working across party lines to get to a solution is one strike against him .....

his soultions on those issues are not "conservative" enough

that he can not be trusted on "amnesty".....

but as far as the war, guns, economy, abortion, taxes etc...he is conservative enough?

[Trigg]

He does not support amnesty in any way, shape or form. He has changed his position completly from the Kennedy deal and back then he didn't support amnesty.

Well I tried to find the transcript from the last debate in New Hampshire in January 6th.

He states he's against "amnesty", but he's for allowing them to stay and pay a fine. Which is essentially the same thing. They are still allowing them to stay in this country for a small fee, oh and they have to get at the back of the line. How is this not amnesty????????????

[avatar4321]

so it would seem that...

working across party lines to get to a solution is one strike against him .....

his soultions on those issues are not "conservative" enough

that he can not be trusted on "amnesty".....

but as far as the war, guns, economy, abortion, taxes etc...he is conservative enough?

actually, im not impressed with his tax policy. Im not exactly thrilled about the legislation he is currently supporting for a global warming tax.

[5stringJeff]

Campaign Finance Reform's restrictions on free speech
McCain-Kennedy Amnesty bill
Negotiating the surrender of the Constitutional option on Judicial nominations.

Right on. Each of these on its own would be enough to surrender one's conservative label. Campaign finance reform is the worst federal law since the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798. The fact that he's done all three of these is abominable, and there's no way in hell any conservative should consider voting for him.

[Dilloduck]

so it would seem that...

working across party lines to get to a solution is one strike against him .....

his soultions on those issues are not "conservative" enough

that he can not be trusted on "amnesty".....

but as far as the war, guns, economy, abortion, taxes etc...he is conservative enough?

Even more so he-- would BECOME the other party if it helped his career. His "cross party solutions" were disastrous, IMHO.