Pregnant Marine missing from North Carolina base

[nevadamedic]

Story Highlights

Lance corporal due to give birth at any time, sheriff says
Marine's car found Monday at bus station
Mother reported Marine missing on December 19
Sheriff: Marine was to testify about incident at base, according to mother

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/09/missing.marine/index.html

Sounds like foul play to me. This is just to wierd to be a coincidence. Has anyone heard of what the incident is that she is testifying about? I do hope and prey that she is ok, and she is definatly gorgeous.

On another note they let pregnant women join the military? It said she enlisted in June and that she is expecting anytime now so she was already a couple months pregnant. I thought they do complete physicals and that if your a single parent you have to sign over guardianship to someone else?

Also isn't a Lance Corporal an E-4? I know that a Corporal is an E-4 in the Army. Can you skip ranks if you have 2-4 years of High School R.O.T.C. or are an Eagle Scout like the other branches let you? What exactly do you need to get higher ranks in the Marine Corps? That is one branch of the service that I know nothing about.

[darin]

She's cute! I hope she's okay.

Lance-Corporal = E3.

Nobody comes into the Army as a Corporal.

[Abbey Marie]

She's cute! I hope she's okay.

Lance-Corporal = E3.

Nobody comes into the Army as a Corporal.

I would have come in as a Captain. :coffee:

[nevadamedic]

She's cute! I hope she's okay.

Lance-Corporal = E3.

Nobody comes into the Army as a Corporal.

No, but you can go in the Army as an E-3 if you have your Eagle Scout and 3 years of J.R.O.T.C.

[darin]

I know. I was enlisted. Or, if you have a 4-year degree, you can enter as an E-4 (Specialist). I entered as an E2. And I think it's eagle scout OR 3 years JROTC.

[nevadamedic]

I know. I was enlisted. Or, if you have a 4-year degree, you can enter as an E-4 (Specialist). I entered as an E2. And I think it's eagle scout OR 3 years JROTC.

If you had both you would go in at E-3 according to the recruiter back in 96-97. I thought if you had a college degree you would go in as an officer?

[darin]

If you had both you would go in at E-3 according to the recruiter back in 96-97. I thought if you had a college degree you would go in as an officer?


He was wrong. I'm pretty sure of it.

Nobody 'goes in' as an officer - it's not that easy. With a degree you 'can' go in thru a commissioning program. There's still training involved before you receive a commission. If you don't want to go that route, a 4-year degree means you come in as an E4.

[82Marine89]

If you had both you would go in at E-3 according to the recruiter back in 96-97. I thought if you had a college degree you would go in as an officer?
He was wrong. I'm pretty sure of it.

Nobody 'goes in' as an officer - it's not that easy. With a degree you 'can' go in thru a commissioning program. There's still training involved before you receive a commission. If you don't want to go that route, a 4-year degree means you come in as an E4.

Contract promotions screwed up the military. Kids were given rank without earning it or properly learning how to wear it. And recruiter lie.

[darin]

Worst part is - people show up as a specialist, and because their degree gives them a LOT of promotion points, they make E5 in about an hour. Now we have leaders without a f'n CLUE...but a degree. :(

[82Marine89]

Worst part is - people show up as a specialist, and because their degree gives them a LOT of promotion points, they make E5 in about an hour. Now we have leaders without a f'n CLUE...but a degree. :(

And that's why I despised contract promotions. You have NCO's that don't know how to be a leader.

[nevadamedic]

And that's why I despised contract promotions. You have NCO's that don't know how to be a leader.

Don't they have an officer training school?

[82Marine89]

Don't they have an officer training school?

If you want to be an officer. It's called OCS. Officer Candidate School. Even then, a 2Lt needs a good NCO to teach him the ropes.

[darin]

And that's why I despised contract promotions. You have NCO's that don't know how to be a leader.

Yup - When I was a Specialist I was 'given' a Sergeant to be my boss. I was told by my Platoon Sergeant "Man, I need you to help this E5 learn to be a Sergeant."

So - there I was, helping my "Boss" write counseling statements for ME. Was a riot. :)

[LiberalNation]

If you want to be an officer. It's called OCS. Officer Candidate School. Even then, a 2Lt needs a good NCO to teach him the ropes.

Or ROTC through college.

[darin]

Or ROTC through college.

...then still needs a good NCO to teach him/her ;)

[LiberalNation]

Course, college doesn't really teach you a lot about life and how to do your work in the real world. With nursing you do a lot of clinical experience and hands on stuff so that helps.

[Abbey Marie]

He was wrong. I'm pretty sure of it.

Nobody 'goes in' as an officer - it's not that easy. With a degree you 'can' go in thru a commissioning program. There's still training involved before you receive a commission. If you don't want to go that route, a 4-year degree means you come in as an E4.

You know more about it than I, but I do remember that when I interviewed for the Army (JAG) in third year of law school, I was specifically told that I would go in as a Captain. :dunno:

[nevadamedic]

Or ROTC through college.

Is that what you are going to do? :laugh2:

[Gaffer]

The worst officer we ever had was a second louie who got his commission out of rotc. A prime example of too much education and no common sense.

As an E-3 in Vietnam I trained three platoon sergeants and an E-5 how to take out and run a combat patrol. Even had to teach one how to read a map. Terrain maps are nothing like road maps.

When I was in the army the best way to get promoted was become friends with the company clerk.

[darin]

You know more about it than I, but I do remember that when I interviewed for the Army (JAG) in third year of law school, I was specifically told that I would go in as a Captain. :dunno:

Not 'exactly'. You'd go in as an LT, then - like a chaplain - get promoted to CPT quickly. I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

You as an army officer? HOT.

[LiberalNation]

Yeah that's what all the stuff I've been reading says. Go in as a 2nd LT and you can rise in rank pretty fast, every year.

[LiberalNation]

Is that what you are going to do? :laugh2:

Shrugs, maybe, I'll try it the first year and see.

[Abbey Marie]

Not 'exactly'. You'd go in as an LT, then - like a chaplain - get promoted to CPT quickly. I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

You as an army officer? HOT.

You always wonder about the road not taken.

[pegwinn]

Story Highlights

Lance corporal due to give birth at any time, sheriff says
Marine's car found Monday at bus station
Mother reported Marine missing on December 19
Sheriff: Marine was to testify about incident at base, according to mother

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/09/missing.marine/index.html

Sounds like foul play to me. This is just to wierd to be a coincidence. Has anyone heard of what the incident is that she is testifying about? I do hope and prey that she is ok, and she is definatly gorgeous.

On another note they let pregnant women join the military? It said she enlisted in June and that she is expecting anytime now so she was already a couple months pregnant. I thought they do complete physicals and that if your a single parent you have to sign over guardianship to someone else? She enlisted in June of 2006, tis now Jan of 2008. That would be one hell of a long pregnancy.

Also isn't a Lance Corporal an E-4? Paygrade E3. I know that a Corporal is an E-4 in the Army. Can you skip ranks if you have 2-4 years of High School R.O.T.C. or are an Eagle Scout like the other branches let you? What exactly do you need to get higher ranks in the Marine Corps? No skipping of ranks allowed. The one exception is that you can be a contract PFC (paygrade E2) out of bootcamp if you brought in another recruit and both of you make it. That was as of 2003 when I retired. That is one branch of the service that I know nothing about.


Contract promotions screwed up the military. Kids were given rank without earning it or properly learning how to wear it. That's a no shitter. I got Cpl in three years (meritoriously) and really chapped at having other Cpls with 12 months and a contract. And recruiter lie. Like a rug.


Don't they have an officer training school? Yup, they go to OCS. Then they go to TBS. Then they go to MOS school.


Or ROTC through college. ROTC prepares you to strut about in uniform, salute, say sir, and other social niceties. To round out a Marine Officer you need a Corporal thru Gunnery Sergeant to teach certain lessons.


The worst officer we ever had was a second louie who got his commission out of rotc. A prime example of too much education and no common sense.

As an E-3 in Vietnam I trained three platoon sergeants and an E-5 how to take out and run a combat patrol. Even had to teach one how to read a map. Terrain maps are nothing like road maps. What!!??? Ya mean those squiggly lines are not lanes of traffic? :coffee:

When I was in the army the best way to get promoted was become friends with the company clerk.

My son in law made Sergeant as of 1 Jan 08. So, when he goes back to Iraq he gets the added privelege of two teams under him instead of one. The best part is that since his wife (my daughter) is a Lance Corporal he officially doesn't have to take sh*t from her :laugh2:

[PostmodernProphet]

Nobody comes into the Army as a Corporal.

look, she is having a baby....obviously SOMEBODY came in a corporal......

[nevadamedic]

Shrugs, maybe, I'll try it the first year and see.

If you go in as an Officer ill enlist just so I can be under you. :laugh2:

[LiberalNation]

ROTC prepares you to strut about in uniform, salute, say sir, and other social niceties.
That's kinda what I was thinking/expecting. As for the rest about marines, I didn't know they had ROTC.

[nevadamedic]

That's kinda what I was thinking/expecting. As for the rest about marines, I didn't know they had ROTC.

All brances have ROTC and High School JROTC.

[82Marine89]

That's kinda what I was thinking/expecting. As for the rest about Marines, I didn't know they had ROTC.

Marines..capital M...go through NROTC. Then they choose the men's department. The rest join the Navy.

[pegwinn]

Marines..capital M...go through NROTC. Then they choose the men's department. The rest join the Navy.

LOL

[nevadamedic]

Marines..capital M...go through NROTC. Then they choose the men's department. The rest join the Navy.

Men's Department?

[82Marine89]

Men's Department?

You have to be a Marine to understand it.

[LiberalNation]

Marines..capital M...go through NROTC. Then they choose the men's department. The rest join the Navy.

WHo cares about capitals. Kinda full of yourselfs. Do they have to go through the whole marine basic training stuff are they just atoumatically marine officers if they choose the marines and complete navy rotc.

[82Marine89]

WHo cares about capitals. Kinda full of yourselfs. Do they have to go through the whole Marine basic training stuff are they just atoumatically Marine officers if they choose the Marines and complete navy rotc.

Actually, Marine is a proper name, therefore it is always capitalized. Boot camp is for enlisted Marines. OCS and the TBS are for Marine officers.

[Monkeybone]

this sucks. but why do you expect foul play? maybe she just didn't wanna have her kid with the marines, or was just afraid that she would be deployed or what not. but either way, it is still weird just to poof and be gone.

[PostmodernProphet]

this sucks. but why do you expect foul play? maybe she just didn't wanna have her kid with the marines, or was just afraid that she would be deployed or what not. but either way, it is still weird just to poof and be gone.


except....


A pregnant Marine missing from Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, was the victim of a crime and was to testify about it, the Onslow County sheriff told CNN affiliates.

and they found her cell phone by the gate entrance......

[Monkeybone]

and they found her cell phone by the gate entrance......

well fuck that shit then. this is what happens when i don't read the article.

[PostmodernProphet]

my mistake....forgot to provide the link....it came from a newer article....

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/10/missing.marine/

[waterrescuedude2000]

If you want to be an officer. It's called OCS. Officer Candidate School. Even then, a 2Lt needs a good NCO to teach him the ropes.

Organized Chicken Shit

[nevadamedic]

A pregnant Marine missing from Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, was the victim of a crime and was to testify about it, the Onslow County sheriff told CNN affiliates

Sheriff Ed Brown told CNN affiliate WECT that other people in the military could be involved with the Marine's disappearance and that they may have tampered with her car and cell phone.

Brown told WRAL that investigators want to talk to a male roommate of Lauterbach's who may be on deployment and could be considered a person of interest in the case.

In a news release Thursday morning, the sheriff's office indicated progress was being made in the investigation. "I do believe the answer is near.

Full Story......................
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/10/missing.marine/index.html

If the person is on deployment then how was the car moved recently? This sounds bad and im sad to say I bet this poor woman isn't with us anymore. :(

I hope they catch whoever did it and hang they by their nuts. What ever happened to Marines being people of honor and integrity like Gunny and 8289? :salute:

[LiberalNation]

Missing Marine claimed she was rape

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine;_ylt=AjEvBx2DFFjAFp1OoWN4lM2s0NUE

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. - A pregnant Marine who vanished last month before she was to testify in a military probe claimed "a senior officer ... had raped her and that the investigation had gone sour," according to new court documents.

The woman made the allegation to her stepmother, who also told investigators looking for the 20-year-old lance corporal that her stepdaughter was bipolar and had a history of compulsive lying, the documents filed this week state.

Military officials said Thursday they had ordered the missing Marine's roommate, Sgt. Daniel Durham, to return from training in California to answer questions about the case.

Durham is believed to be the last person to speak with the lance corporal. He was to return to Camp Lejeune as soon as possible, Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown said.

[pegwinn]

WHo cares about capitals. Kinda full of yourselfs. Tis a proper name. You can be in the Army. You are a Marine. Soldiers are not generically addressed as "Listen up Army". And, well, it IS hard to be humble. Do they have to go through the whole marine basic training stuff are they just atoumatically marine officers if they choose the marines and complete navy rotc. NROTC is merely a hunting ground for OSO's with the exception of say .... the 1800's and a couple of WWII appointments..... all Marine Officers have to start at the same place.


I hope they catch whoever did it and hang they by their nuts. What ever happened to Marines being people of honor and integrity like Gunny and 8289? :salute: Ten percent of any group doesn't belong there. They look good on paper and do well in training, but the training just doesn't take. Reality Sucks huh? BTW, I agree. If it is foul play then the perp needs to become a pitbull chewtoy before we shoot him and reward the dog.

Thanks for the updates.

[nevadamedic]

Police: Missing Marine bought, never used bus ticket

Story Highlights
NEW: Marine bought a bus ticket the day she disappeared, sheriff says
NEW: Marine drove off after buying ticket, seller says
Cops: Marine's mother says daughter has history of being "compulsive liar"

Brown is expected to talk to the roommate of Lauterbach on Friday morning and has scheduled a noon press conference with a "major" update in the case.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/11/missing.marine/index.html

[nevadamedic]

Sorry for the double post, im watching the press conference and it's not good news. This woman is dead and burried. The marine she accused of rape is the suspect and he has fled. Cesar Armando Lauren 21 and a United States Marine. What a shame. The Marine Corps and NCIS are adding in tracking this guy and I hope the Marines find him...............

[LiberalNation]

Pregnant Marine is dead, comrade sought

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080111/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine

Yep, that's sad, hope they catch the guy.

[LiberalNation]

So the body of her and her baby are found in the guy she accused of raping her's back yard. Why didn't they get him away from her after the accusations of rape. Why wasn't he a main suspect till he had already fled and left a note to his wife saying he had buried her body.

[82Marine89]

Pregnant Marine is dead, comrade sought




Nothing comparing the U.S. military to the Soviets in that title. Nope, not a thing.

[LiberalNation]

Nope, your paraniod.

[Yurt]

Nope, your paraniod.

ALLAH AKBAR COMRADE

[nevadamedic]

Nothing comparing the U.S. military to the Soviets in that title. Nope, not a thing.

Anything she can do to take a cheap shot.

[LiberalNation]

Well you only other options would be co-worker or superior officer which both don’t fit. Using the word comrad to describe their releationship has fuck all to do with the the soviets or russia.

[nevadamedic]

Well you only other options would be co-worker or superior officer which both don’t fit. Using the word comrad to describe their releationship has fuck all to do with the the soviets or russia.

Co-worker works, and what a surprise he seems to be a Mexican.

[LiberalNation]

In the military I doubt if your fellow soldiers ect. are regularly called your co-workers.

He is an American of Hispanic descent which also has fuck all to do with anything.

[nevadamedic]

Story Highlights

NEW: The discovery is "consistent with what we were looking for," sheriff says
NEW: Cpl. Cesar Armando Laurean is charged with first-degree murder
Sheriff says blood found in house, even on ceiling
Missing pregnant Marine had accused suspect -- a fellow Marine -- of rape

The fetus was developed enough that the "little hand was about the size of my thumb. The little fingers were rolled up," he said.

"One of the things that will probably stick with me for a long time, and forever, is that little hand, the way those fingers were turned, that had been burned off the arm. That is bizarre. That is tragic. And it's disgusting."

Full Story..............
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/12/missing.marine/index.html

What a shame and very depressing and disgusting. This guy is evil, pure evil. I hope they find him and string him up by the nuts. I hope they will charge him with two counts of First Degree Murder and pursue the death penalty. There is no excuse for this crime.

I wonder what makes him think that he would get away with this? If she commited suicide why didn't he call the police? Why did he bury her in his back yard or bury her at all? This guy is nuts.

[LiberalNation]

Suspect in slain Marine case seen in La.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080113/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine


Brown said the FBI, federal Marshals, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and the North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation were hunting for Laurean. Sheriff's investigators were at the scene developing evidence, he said.

Lots of organizations on this guys trail.

[nevadamedic]

Suspect in slain Marine case seen in La.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080113/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine



Lots of organizations on this guys trail.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/13/missing.marine/index.html

Better story on this....................

[LiberalNation]

The marines fucked this up, they're taking media heat, and true to miltary whatever aren't answering the media. 20 days of refusing to even give the people conducting the missing persons invistigation the name of the guy she accused of raping her.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080115/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine;_ylt=Atoc7kKYwmkob1Yn2wYM2ftvzwcF

Autopsy: Marine died of head injury

[LiberalNation]

Marines finally having a press conference. So everybody thought she just volunterily went AWOL.

[Dilloduck]

Marines finally having a press conference. So everybody thought she just volunterily went AWOL.

There was no evidence to make them think otherwise.

[LiberalNation]

True.

I'm impressed, they're giving a very professional press conference. A lot better than the local sheriffs.

[Dilloduck]

True.

I'm impressed, they're giving a very professional press conference. A lot better than the local sheriffs.

A very professional and informative indeed. There are some real shady issues going on behind the scenes and they better shut up before they give out TOO MUCH INFO.

[Dilloduck]

This case is getting VERY strange---almost sounds as if the murdered Marine was pulling a bit of a blackmail routine.

[LiberalNation]

Or just was under control of the murder resulting in the changes of story ect. Or he is a mastermind who set a lot of it up.

Blaming and slandering the victim doesn't help much. She's murdered, he's running.

[Dilloduck]

Or just was under control of the murder resulting in the changes of story ect. Or he is a mastermind who set a lot of it up.

Blaming and slandering the victim doesn't help much. She's murdered, he's running.

no telling--it will be interesting to see how it goes if they catch him

[pegwinn]

The marines fucked this up, they're taking media heat, and true to miltary whatever aren't answering the media. 20 days of refusing to even give the people conducting the missing persons invistigation the name of the guy she accused of raping her.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080115/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine;_ylt=Atoc7kKYwmkob1Yn2wYM2ftvzwcF

Autopsy: Marine died of head injury
THIS IS NOT A SLAM
THIS IS NOT A SLAM

Now that we got that out of the way. I think your link is messed up. This is the story that came up as I clicked your link and it doesn't support your post. Was there a different story?

I didn't see the press conference and am not up on details.

Pregnant Marine didn't feel threatened <!-- END HEADLINE -->
<!-- BEGIN STORY BODY -->By MIKE BAKER, Associated Press Writer2 hours, 29 minutes ago


A 20-year-old pregnant Marine who disappeared in December told victims' advocates at Camp Lejeune that she didn't feel unsafe in the presence of the colleague now wanted in her death, Marine Corps officials said Tuesday.
Marine Cpl. Cesar Armando Laurean never violated the military protective order directing him to stay away from Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, continued to report for work on time in the weeks after her disappearance and denied having any kind of sexual contact with her, said Col. Gary Sokoloski, the judge advocate general officer for the II Marine Expeditionary Force.
"At no time did she indicate that she was threatened by Cpl. Laurean," Sokoloski said. "When she was asked if she felt threatened by Cpl. Laurean, she said she did not feel threatened."
Authorities confirmed Tuesday that remains found over weekend in a fire pit in Laurean's backyard were those of Lauterbach and her child. Dr. Charles Garrett, the Onslow County medical examiner, said Lauterbach, who was eight months pregnant when she vanished, died of "traumatic head injury due to blunt force trauma."
The autopsy did not answer all the questions about the circumstances of Lauterbach's death, said county prosecutor Dewey Hudson. Detectives are still unsure whether she gave birth before her death, he said.
Authorities believe Laurean fled Jacksonville, N.C., early Friday after leaving a note in which he admitted burying Lauterbach's body. But Tuesday, they said he is believed to be hiding and no longer needs to travel quickly or far to avoid capture.
"We believe it's certainly possible, based on him being out there for this long, and not having any sightings, that he is getting help," said Onslow County Sheriff's Capt. Rick Sutherland. "We think we have a handle on all his contacts, but there could be someone else out there helping."
Authorities towed Laurean's pickup truck on Tuesday after finding it abandoned at a motel parking lot in Morrisville, not far from where it was seen by witnesses in Durham, about 150 miles northwest of Jacksonville. It will be taken back to Onslow County to be processed by the State Bureau of Investigation, said Paul Ciccarelli, an agent with the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.
It was unclear how long the truck had been at the Microtel Inn. Sherrie Joyner, who works the front desk, said Laurean never checked in.
Lauterbach's ATM card was found at a bus station in Durham, and authorities received reports from several witnesses Sunday who said they saw Laurean at a bus station in Shreveport, La. Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown has said detectives have been unable to confirm the validity of the Louisiana sightings.
In his note, Laurean alleged that Lauterbach committed suicide by cutting her own throat. Brown rejected that idea even before the medical examiner weighed in, citing blood spatters on the ceiling and a large amount of blood on a wall in Laurean's home as signs of a violent confrontation.
Authorities believe Lauterbach was slain around Dec. 15. Officials have offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to Laurean's arrest and have posted or plan to post billboards with his picture in cities nationwide, including Columbus, Ohio; Tampa, Fla.; and Las Vegas.

[LiberalNation]

Now that we got that out of the way. I think your link is messed up. This is the story that came up as I clicked your link and it doesn't support your post. Was there a different story?

I didn't see the press conference and am not up on details
It wasn't in that story. I was referring to what I've been hearing on the cable news shows. Nancy Grace was really slamming them but some of the other news was also.

Now since this press conference there is a discrepancy between when the sheriff said he was notified and the marines say they notified the sheriff department.

Both sides look like their trying to cover their asses but that may just be how the media is presenting it affecting prespective.

[LiberalNation]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/15/missing.marine/index.html


Military officials did not have contact with the Onslow County Sheriff's Office until December 27, after learning Lauterbach's mother had filed a missing persons report with them six days earlier, Hill said.

As part of the missing persons investigation, Laurean was interviewed on base by Onslow County authorities and the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. But he was interviewed as a possible witness, not a suspect, and was not detained, Hill said.

"At no point prior to Friday morning [January 11] ... did the regimental commander or the NCIS investigators feel that Lauterbach was anything other than UA or have information that Laurean was involved in any way," he said.


He noted that the military was not privy to several items of information until days afterward, but maintained the military was not trying to blame anyone else, saying it enjoyed a good relationship with Onslow County.

"There may have been a few hiccups here," Hill said. "We're going to work through that." E-mail to a friend

[LiberalNation]

NANCY GRACE

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0801/14/ng.01.html

[Dilloduck]

THIS IS NOT A SLAM
THIS IS NOT A SLAM

Now that we got that out of the way. I think your link is messed up. This is the story that came up as I clicked your link and it doesn't support your post. Was there a different story?

I didn't see the press conference and am not up on details.

Pregnant Marine didn't feel threatened <!-- END HEADLINE -->
<!-- BEGIN STORY BODY -->By MIKE BAKER, Associated Press Writer2 hours, 29 minutes ago


A 20-year-old pregnant Marine who disappeared in December told victims' advocates at Camp Lejeune that she didn't feel unsafe in the presence of the colleague now wanted in her death, Marine Corps officials said Tuesday.
Marine Cpl. Cesar Armando Laurean never violated the military protective order directing him to stay away from Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, continued to report for work on time in the weeks after her disappearance and denied having any kind of sexual contact with her, said Col. Gary Sokoloski, the judge advocate general officer for the II Marine Expeditionary Force.
"At no time did she indicate that she was threatened by Cpl. Laurean," Sokoloski said. "When she was asked if she felt threatened by Cpl. Laurean, she said she did not feel threatened."
Authorities confirmed Tuesday that remains found over weekend in a fire pit in Laurean's backyard were those of Lauterbach and her child. Dr. Charles Garrett, the Onslow County medical examiner, said Lauterbach, who was eight months pregnant when she vanished, died of "traumatic head injury due to blunt force trauma."
The autopsy did not answer all the questions about the circumstances of Lauterbach's death, said county prosecutor Dewey Hudson. Detectives are still unsure whether she gave birth before her death, he said.
Authorities believe Laurean fled Jacksonville, N.C., early Friday after leaving a note in which he admitted burying Lauterbach's body. But Tuesday, they said he is believed to be hiding and no longer needs to travel quickly or far to avoid capture.
"We believe it's certainly possible, based on him being out there for this long, and not having any sightings, that he is getting help," said Onslow County Sheriff's Capt. Rick Sutherland. "We think we have a handle on all his contacts, but there could be someone else out there helping."
Authorities towed Laurean's pickup truck on Tuesday after finding it abandoned at a motel parking lot in Morrisville, not far from where it was seen by witnesses in Durham, about 150 miles northwest of Jacksonville. It will be taken back to Onslow County to be processed by the State Bureau of Investigation, said Paul Ciccarelli, an agent with the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.
It was unclear how long the truck had been at the Microtel Inn. Sherrie Joyner, who works the front desk, said Laurean never checked in.
Lauterbach's ATM card was found at a bus station in Durham, and authorities received reports from several witnesses Sunday who said they saw Laurean at a bus station in Shreveport, La. Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown has said detectives have been unable to confirm the validity of the Louisiana sightings.
In his note, Laurean alleged that Lauterbach committed suicide by cutting her own throat. Brown rejected that idea even before the medical examiner weighed in, citing blood spatters on the ceiling and a large amount of blood on a wall in Laurean's home as signs of a violent confrontation.
Authorities believe Lauterbach was slain around Dec. 15. Officials have offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to Laurean's arrest and have posted or plan to post billboards with his picture in cities nationwide, including Columbus, Ohio; Tampa, Fla.; and Las Vegas.

There were some insinuations at the press conference that she MAY HAVE continued the realtionship with him after the rape charges.

[LiberalNation]

CNN has a new interview with a woman that worked with both. She blows the military cover ass story out of the water saying the two did not have a friendly relationship, she herself filed the paper work when the woman asked for another protective order when the two were supposedly friendly. Sorry you don't file those things against people your on friendly terms with. She said the woman avioded him like the plague. That her non-com advocate told the officer in charge laurene had way more credibility then the woman and basically saying she was a liar in the rape allegations. No wonder there wasn't a real investigation. That's bull.

[Dilloduck]

CNN has a new interview with a woman that worked with both. She blows the military cover ass story out of the water saying the two did not have a friendly relationship, she herself filed the paper work when the woman asked for another protective order when the two were supposedly friendly. Sorry you don't file those things against people your on friendly terms with. She said the woman avioded him like the plague. That her non-com advocate told the officer in charge laurene had way more credibility then the woman and basically saying she was a liar in the rape allegations. No wonder there wasn't a real investigation. That's bull.

The military never claimed that they were good friends after the incidentS and the investigation was pending the birth of the child.

[LiberalNation]

No, but they did say they had a friendly relationship and that's why they weren't worried about it.

[Dilloduck]

No, but they did say they had a friendly relationship and that's why they weren't worried about it.

I don't remember hearing that. The investigation was still ongoing and as far as they knew, there were further incidences. How could they even know if they were friends if they had no contact with each other as the court order decreed ?

[LiberalNation]

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/13797192.html

Military officials have said Laurean was not taken into custody after Lauterbach reported the alleged rape because there was information the two carried on "some sort of friendly relationship" after she filed the complaint.

"The information ... leads us to believe that she still had some kind of contact" with him, said Paul Ciccarelli, agent in charge of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service field office at Camp Lejeune.

[Dilloduck]

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/13797192.html

Military officials have said Laurean was not taken into custody after Lauterbach reported the alleged rape because there was information the two carried on "some sort of friendly relationship" after she filed the complaint.

"The information ... leads us to believe that she still had some kind of contact" with him, said Paul Ciccarelli, agent in charge of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service field office at Camp Lejeune.

So there are differing opinions as to their realtionship after the 2 incidents. That's not really unusual is it?

[LiberalNation]

No but when someone reports rape and it gets treated like this and then the victim ends up dead in the guys she accused back yard it raises question about why the first accusation weren't taken more seriously. They also kept saying he wasn't a flight risk. Those are two very critical wrong assumption right there.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080112/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine_70


Authorities said they had not been concerned that Laurean would flee because they had information he and Lauterbach carried on a "friendly relationship" even after she reported the assault to military authorities.

[Pale Rider]

And now they think the dude has slipped down into Mexico. They can't say where, but they think they have an idea.

[LiberalNation]

Yeah pretty sure, he is supposed to have sent a letter to his wife and family from houston texas. FBI says he's in mexico, didn't catch him before he crossed the boarder. They'll have hell getting him back.

[Pale Rider]

Yeah pretty sure, he is supposed to have sent a letter to his wife and family from houston texas. FBI says he's in mexico, didn't catch him before he crossed the boarder. They'll have hell getting him back.

Mexico has actually been pretty cooperative with detaining people wanted like that for murder and such, but the real challenge will be trying to find him. Hell, all those little towns down there, he could hide out forever. There is a $25K reward for information leading to his recovery though, and that's a lot of money in Mexico. Somebody will rat him out. Maybe Dawg the Bounty Hunter wil go back down there... :laugh:

[LiberalNation]

They wont send him back if they don't agree not to seek the death penalty and the way the prosecuter talked he wanted to. So that's automatic life in prison.

[Dilloduck]

No but when someone reports rape and it gets treated like this and then the victim ends up dead in the guys she accused back yard it raises question about why the first accusation weren't taken more seriously. They also kept saying he wasn't a flight risk. Those are two very critical wrong assumption right there.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080112/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine_70

How exactly was she mistreated ?

[LiberalNation]

I didn't say she was mistreated. I said the case should have been taken more seriously instead of all the doubt being on her. While everybody said he was a non-threat, great guy. That assumption turned out to be wrong and she's dead.

I'm sure it was a hard case but the marines deserve some criticism for letting it play out the way it did.

[Dilloduck]

I didn't say she was mistreated. I said the case should have been taken more seriously instead of all the doubt being on her. While everybody said he was a non-threat, great guy. That assumption turned out to be wrong and she's dead.

I'm sure it was a hard case but the marines deserve some criticism for letting it play out the way it did.

How come SHE didn't take it more seriously when she was raped ---twice. Reporting it as soon as it happened the FIRST time might have been wise don't you think? They has NO reason to throw this guy in the slammer other than her word which according to her own mother isn't all that trustworthy.

edit: sorry-----step mother

[LiberalNation]

Yeah, yeah, complusive liar, slut, didn't stick enough to her story when being drilled, had a friendly relationship with him even tho she took out 3 orders to keep him away from her, only reported being raped twice, he's a good guy, has more credibility than her, good marine.

Oh wait, she's the one who was rape and murdered while he's on the run.

I think it might just be a country wide cultural problem. Victims of rape are almost always gone after like this. A girl was raped in our school bathroom. She reported it, had evidence, he pleaded guilty but she can't come back to school cuz all the people threatening and slandering her. Slut, set him up, liarer.

[Dilloduck]

Yeah, yeah, complusive liar, slut, didn't stick enough to her story when being drilled, had a friendly relationship with him even tho she took out 3 orders to keep him away from her, only reported being raped twice, he's a good guy, has more credibility than her, good marine.

Oh wait, she's the one who was rape and murdered while he's on the run.

I think it might just be a country wide cultural problem. Victims of rape are almost always gone after like this. A girl was raped in our school bathroom. She reported it, had evidence, he pleaded guilty but she can't come back to school cuz all the people threatening and slandering her. Slut, set him up, liarer.

I'm not defending him-----I'm defending the action taken by the marines. Please don't turn this into a gender discrimination war. :lame2:

[LiberalNation]

So the marines couldn't have made any mistakes seeing as their 3 big assumption turned out to be wrong which led to her death and him fleeing.

They probably acted the best they thought they should at the time, not denying that, but hindsight can be really illuminating. She made some big mistakes that hurt her own case but then she was pregnant, had possibly been raped twice, and didn't think anyone really believed her.

[Dilloduck]

So the marines couldn't have made any mistakes seeing as their 3 big assumption turned out to be wrong which led to her death and him fleeing.

They probably acted the best they thought they should at the time, not denying that, but hindsight can be really illuminating. She made some big mistakes that hurt her own case but then she was pregnant, had possibly been raped twice, and didn't think anyone really believed her.

If
They probably acted the best they thought they should at the time how can you possibly condemn them ? They certainly handled the situtation better than she did.

[LiberalNation]

Simply, their handle of the situation led to her death and his escape. She wasn't just randomly murdered by someone. She was murdered by him right before she was set to testify against him. Someones gona get some blame and it's not gona be the pregnant dead girl.

It may be asking too much to expect them to have done a lot differently with what they knew, but should it be?

[Dilloduck]

Simply, their handle of the situation led to her death and his escape. She wasn't just randomly murdered by someone. She was murdered by him right before she was set to testify against him. Someones gona get some blame and it's not gona be the pregnant dead girl.

It may be asking too much to expect them to have done a lot differently with what they knew, but should it be?

bull shit-------you can't throw someone in the slammer with no evidence.

[LiberalNation]

You have her accusation and her pregnant with a baby that can be dna tested, so yeah you can. Then at the trial you prove it. If it was another crime, if she claimed a guy beat her and had bruises, do you not think you have enough evidence to jail the person she accuses.

[Dilloduck]

You have her accusation and her pregnant with a baby that can be dna tested, so yeah you can. Then at the trial you prove it. If it was another crime, if she claimed a guy beat her and had bruises, do you not think you have enough evidence to jail the person she accuses.

She told them that it wasnt his baby---

[JohnDoe]

bull shit-------you can't throw someone in the slammer with no evidence.
I haven't read all of the articles, but "no evidence"? wasn't a rape victim test done on her and if they had done this, was it his sperm/dna?

or do you mean no evidence because it was a "he said, she said" type thing?

[Dilloduck]

I haven't read all of the articles, but "no evidence"? wasn't a rape victim test done on her and if they had done this, was it his sperm/dna?

or do you mean no evidencem because it was a "he said, she said" type thing?

She didnt report it when it allegedly happened--either time !!

[LiberalNation]

She told them that it wasnt his baby---
she told them it was first. The test could have taken place during that time not months and months later as she became more pregnant and faced more harrasment.

[Dilloduck]

she told them it was first. The test could have taken place during that time not months and months later as she became more pregnant and faced more harrasment.

LN-----you are second guessing everything without all the facts.

[LiberalNation]

True, but that's how it goes. When things like this happen people argue about the case. It's an American Tradition.

We know, 1. she's dead with all evidence pointing to him and 2. he's on the run. Everything after that is speculation as people play cover ass and people make accusations.

[Dilloduck]

True, but that's how it goes. When things like this happen people argue about the case. It's an American Tradition.

We know, 1. she's dead with all evidence pointing to him and 2. he's on the run. Everything after that is speculation as people play cover ass and people make accusations.

Right----but I think it's quite telling when people are quick to accuse without knowing all the details and in this case you are dragging the military through some unneccessary shit imho.

[LiberalNation]

Not unneccessary. Anyway, no real break throughs on this story. He's still in mexico, she's still dead.

[nevadamedic]

Not unneccessary. Anyway, no real break throughs on this story. He's still in mexico, she's still dead.

There are breaks they have confirmed sightings of him in Mexico, hence the reason I started that monster thread.

[LiberalNation]

They caught the bastard, finally. Too bad it was in mexico tho. Wont be no seeking the death penalty.

FBI arrests suspect in slaying of Marine

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080411/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine

RALEIGH, N.C. - A Marine wanted for the brutal slaying of a pregnant colleague who had accused him of rape was arrested Thursday night in Mexico after a three-month international manhunt, authorities said.

FBI agents and Mexican authorities arrested Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean around 7 p.m. EDT. He is charged with murder in the death of Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, whose burned remains were found in January in the back yard of his home near Camp Lejeune.

Magdalena Guzman, a spokeswoman for Michoacan, Mexico, state prosecutors office, said Laurean was detained by Mexican police on a street in the small town of Tacambaro, Michoacan. Police said Laurean matched a description circulated by U.S. authorities, Guzman said.

The FBI said Laurean is awaiting extradition to the U.S.

"Laurean's swift arrest in Mexico was due to the diligence and dedication of the Mexican government and our law enforcement partners," Nathan Gray, the special agent in charge of the FBI's Charlotte office, said in a statement.

"This was truly an international effort, and we will do all we can to ensure Laurean is brought back to Onslow County (N.C.) as quickly as possible to answer the charges against him."

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said after Laurean's arrest was announced that "it could be a year or two" before authorities are able to bring the personnel clerk back to North Carolina if he decides to fight the extradition process.

"The extradition process is one where you have a right to appeal," Hudson told The Associated Press. "I have no idea whether he would waive extradition."