The United States Is Hated Or Feared

[Psychoblues]

by most of the world.

This was reported by CNN, MSNBC and by Fox. It was a statement by an Iowan voter. I am ashamed to say that I agree with that voter.

Just why would the most free nation in the world be feared or hated by anyone? I am at a loss for an explanation. Perhaps we are not as free as we purport to be? Or is it that we have abused our freedom and allowed despots to direct our national policy? Either way, it ain't pretty for Americans to be saying on international television that "The United States is hated or feared by most of the world."

An American saying that?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!? Just what do Americans do to change that perception? gwb is history now. WE CAN do better!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PostmodernProphet]

The United States Is Hated Or Feared

????...as a government?.....only by extremist liberals, here and abroad......

[Little-Acorn]

This seems a good place for a timely repost.

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http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2007/11/27/the_world_doesnt_hate_america,_the_left_does

The World Doesn't Hate America, the Left Does

By Dennis Prager
Tuesday, November 27, 2007

One of the most widely held beliefs in the contemporary world -- so widely held it is not disputed -- is that, with few exceptions, the world hates America. One of the Democrats' major accusations against the Bush administration is that it has increased hatred of America to unprecedented levels. And in many polls, the United States is held to be among the greatest obstacles to world peace and harmony.

But it is not true that the world hates America. It is the world's left that hates America. However, because the left dominates the world's news media and because most people, understandably, believe what the news media report, many people, including Americans, believe that the world hates America.

Take Western Europe, which is widely regarded as holding America in contempt, but upon examination only validates our thesis. The French, for example, are regarded as particularly America-hating, but if this were so, how does one explain the election of Nicolas Sarkozy as president of France? Sarkozy loves America and was known to love America when he ran for president. Evidently, it is the left in France -- a left that, like the left in America, dominates the media, arts, universities and unions -- that hates the U.S., not the French.

The same holds true for Spain, Australia, Britain, Latin America and elsewhere. The left in these countries hate the United States while non-leftists, and especially conservatives, in those countries hold America in high regard, if not actually love it.

Take Spain. The prime minister of Spain from 1996 to 2004, Jose Maria Aznar, is a conservative who holds America in the highest regard. He was elected twice, and polls in Spain up to the week before the 2004 election all predicted a third term for Aznar's party (Aznar had promised not to run for a third term). Only the Madrid subway bombings, perpetrated by Muslim terrorists three days before the elections, but which the Aznar government erroneously blamed on Basque separatists, turned the election against the conservative party.

There is another obvious argument against the belief that the world hates America: Many millions of people would rather live in America than in any other country. How does the left explain this? Why would people want to come to a country they loathe? Why don't people want to live in Sweden or France as much as they wish to live in America? Those are rich and free countries, too.

The answer is that most people know there is no country in the world more accepting of strangers as is America. After three generations, people who have emigrated to Germany or France or Sweden do not feel -- and are not regarded as -- fully German, French or Swedish. Yet, anyone of any color from any country is regarded as American the moment he or she identifies as one. The country that the left routinely calls "xenophobic" and "racist" is in fact the least racist and xenophobic country in the world.

Given that it is the left and the institutions it dominates -- universities, media (other than talk radio in America) and unions -- that hate America, two questions remain: Why does the left hate America, and does the American left, too, hate America?

The answer to the first question is that America and especially the most hated parts of America -- conservatives, religious conservatives in particular -- are the greatest obstacles to leftist dominance. American success refutes the socialist ideals of the left; American use of force to vanquish evil refutes the left's pacifist tendencies; America is the last great country that believes in putting some murderers to death, something that is anathema to the left; when America is governed by conservatives, it uses the language of good and evil, language regarded by the left as "Manichean"; most Americans still believe in the Judeo-Christian value system, another target of the left because the left regards all religions as equally valid (or more to the point, equally foolish and dangerous) and regards God-based morality as the moral equivalent of alchemy.


Rest at Link Above.

[avatar4321]

I think the Iowan should get out more.

[Joe Steel]

by most of the world.

This was reported by CNN, MSNBC and by Fox. It was a statement by an Iowan voter. I am ashamed to say that I agree with that voter.

Just why would the most free nation in the world be feared or hated by anyone? I am at a loss for an explanation. Perhaps we are not as free as we purport to be? Or is it that we have abused our freedom and allowed despots to direct our national policy? Either way, it ain't pretty for Americans to be saying on international television that "The United States is hated or feared by most of the world."

An American saying that?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!? Just what do Americans do to change that perception? gwb is history now. WE CAN do better!!!!!!!!!!!!

We all know why America is hated around the world: Bush's war.

We can't unring the bell so we have to find a way to apologize and prove to the world we mean it. One good way would be to prosecute the war criminals who started the war; Bush, Cheney, Powell and Rice to start. When they're in prison or otherwise punished, we can move on to the rest of the regime including propagandists like William Kristol who helped spread the lies which made the war possible.

[82Marine89]

We all know why America is hated around the world: Bush's war.

We can't unring the bell so we have to find a way to apologize and prove to the world we mean it. One good way would be to prosecute the war criminals who started the war; Bush, Cheney, Powell and Rice to start. When they're in prison or otherwise punished, we can move on to the rest of the regime including propagandists like William Kristol who helped spread the lies which made the war possible.

War Criminals? Got any :link: to back up that statement or are you just drunk on Kool-Aid?

Propagandist? Think mainstream media.

[Joe Steel]

War Criminals? Got any :link: to back up that statement or are you just drunk on Kool-Aid?

Propagandist? Think mainstream media.

It's black letter law:


TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 118 > § 2441

§ 2441. War crimes

(a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.

(b) Circumstances.— The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).

(c) Definition.— As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct—

(1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party;

(2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;

(3) which constitutes a violation of common Article 3 of the international conventions signed at Geneva, 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party and which deals with non-international armed conflict; or

(4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians.

George W. Bush - Terrorist in the White House (http://www.nogw.com/warcrimes.html)

[Joe Steel]

Violation of the Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949 is another of Bush's war crimes.


Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol 1)

Adopted on 8 June 1977 by the Diplomatic Conference on the Reaffirmation and Development of International Humanitarian Law applicable in Armed Conflicts; entered into force 7 December 1979

Article 35 paragraph 3

It is prohibited to employ methods or means of warfare which are intended, or may be expected, to cause widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment.

Article 51 paragraphs 1, 2, 4 and 5 (excerpts)

The civilian population and individual civilians shall enjoy general protection against dangers arising from military operations.

[C]ivilians shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.

Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited, [including an] attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.

Bush's Crimes (http://www.motherearth.org/bushwanted/laws.php#geneva)

[Kathianne]

Wrong JS, those have been debated long before you got here, your position lost. Maineman too not so long ago, neither holds up in these circumstances.

[avatar4321]

Violation of the Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949 is another of Bush's war crimes.

I am not sure where you've been, but civilians have never been targeted in the war on terror. They aren't being targeted now. They never will be.

[Joe Steel]

Wrong JS, those have been debated long before you got here, your position lost. Maineman too not so long ago, neither holds up in these circumstances.

Considering the level of intellectual rigor in this forum, I'm not too worried about its conclusions.

[Kathianne]

Considering the level of intellectual rigor in this forum, I'm not too worried about its conclusions.

Considering you do nothing other than spout off your pov, ditto on your opinions. :cheers2:

[82Marine89]

Come on Joe, Friends of the Earth? A Belgium website? Got anything more credible than that?

[Joe Steel]

I am not sure where you've been, but civilians have never been targeted in the war on terror. They aren't being targeted now. They never will be.


Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited, [including an] attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.

Bush has destroyed civilian infrastructure such as water treatment plants, bridges and electricity generation facilities.

Early in the war, Bush thought Saddam Hussein was in a restaurant located in a crowded part of the city. He ordered a hit and had the building bombed. Hussein wasn't there but a number of civilians were killed.

We regularly have had reports of wedding parties and other civilian gatherings being shot-up or bombed because they were mistaken for terrorists.

[Joe Steel]

Come on Joe, Friends of the Earth? A Belgium website? Got anything more credible than that?

They cited an easily-found document. Look it up yourself.

[Kathianne]

Bush has destroyed civilian infrastructure such as water treatment plants, bridges and electricity generation facilities. and it's being rebuilt better than it was. Did you see England, Germany, Italy, Austria, Poland, Japan after WWII? This has been nothing like that. The effort to avoid doing so has been phenomenal, even the UN has said so.

Early in the war, Bush thought Saddam Hussein was in a restaurant located in a crowded part of the city. He ordered a hit and had the building bombed. Hussein wasn't there but a number of civilians were killed. and such is the costs of war, which is why it's something to do only after 10 years or so of trying better ways, when possible.

We regularly have had reports of wedding parties and other civilian gatherings being shot-up or bombed because they were mistaken for terrorists. and regularly one finds the bride has a beard and an AK 47.

:lame2:

[Little-Acorn]

Bush has destroyed civilian infrastructure such as water treatment plants, bridges and electricity generation facilities.

Looks like our favorite Keystone Kop joe steel has been at it again. If I read his blurts right, anyone who destroys a bridge or power plant during a war is guilty of a "war crime".

Tell me, little joe, what war has taken place in the history of the world, where none of these things have been destroyed?

Back to the subject:
As my article pointed out, most countries' populations still want to come to the United States, more than they want to leave. It's just the leftist hysterics in each country, and the media that supports them, who hate us.

Who can blame them? Freedom goes directly against what they want. And despite its failures, the U.S. is still the most free country on earth - hence the desire of ordinary people to come here, and the screams of socialist governments and pundits against us.

The leftists have been losing ground for decades, and their degree of hysteria has been rising commensurately. Neither trend will change in the forseeable future.

[Yurt]

by most of the world.

This was reported by CNN, MSNBC and by Fox. It was a statement by an Iowan voter. I am ashamed to say that I agree with that voter.

Just why would the most free nation in the world be feared or hated by anyone? I am at a loss for an explanation. Perhaps we are not as free as we purport to be? Or is it that we have abused our freedom and allowed despots to direct our national policy? Either way, it ain't pretty for Americans to be saying on international television that "The United States is hated or feared by most of the world."

An American saying that?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!? Just what do Americans do to change that perception? gwb is history now. WE CAN do better!!!!!!!!!!!!

some hate Jesus, and what did he ever do to make one hate him?

i don't understand tripe like your post. it should be a logical fallacy, probably is, but I don't want to look it up. so, because X says Y about Z, then only X is right, notwithstanding that W says Z is good. your logic is that, simply because X exists, then W can't be true. This is not true, nor logical.

Do you know the word jealous?

[Psychoblues]

Jesus threw the money changers out of the Temple of God. Jesus spoke of war as if it were abomination of the unlearned and unreligious.



some hate Jesus, and what did he ever do to make one hate him?

i don't understand tripe like your post. it should be a logical fallacy, probably is, but I don't want to look it up. so, because X says Y about Z, then only X is right, notwithstanding that W says Z is good. your logic is that, simply because X exists, then W can't be true. This is not true, nor logical.

Do you know the word jealous?

How do you fit into that information?