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Gadget (fmr Marine)
01-02-2008, 09:40 AM
I work for a Danish Company, and have been aware of the problems they are experienceing since 1996. I was just forwarded this email from a friend....it is worth consideration.


Denmark--A Preview of the United States!!

Salute the Danish Flag - it's a Symbol

The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism one in development since the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time.

The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.

Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism.

How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the streets -all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back to bite?

By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious.

Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark 's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, in equality for women, in tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danish heritage and history.

The New York Post in 2002 ran an article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they forecasted accurately that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode. In the article they reported: "Muslim immigrants constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending."

"Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark 's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes."

"Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population.

A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane. "Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem"

"Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark 's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim."

It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws.

An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and the U.S, some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark , a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who as a teenager had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.

In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration. Today Denmark has the strictest immigration policies in Europe . ( Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of "racism" by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)

If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes. You must pass a test on Denmark 's history, culture, and a Danish language test.

You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship. You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you wish to bring a spouse into Denmark , you must both be over 24 years of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to Denmark with you.

You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen . Although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in Denmark , they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.

In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system as it existed was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. "We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration. The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now," he said.

A large thorn in the side of Denmark 's imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, "The number of foreigners coming to the country makes a difference," Hvilshøj says, "There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that come." And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, "In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech."

Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark , Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen , stating that the family's thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not necessarily what is done in Denmark. The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.

Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened. Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters of Sharia law.

And meanwhile, Americans clamour for stricter immigration policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole. As we in America look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our history . . we would do well to look to Denmark , and say a prayer for her future and for our own.

Nukeman
01-02-2008, 09:48 AM
great find and post.

Maybe if some of our local Libs would look around and drop the dreaded race card and realize that most of us calling for stricter guidelines see this as a possible future that we don't want our children having to deal with....

Dilloduck
01-02-2008, 09:54 AM
Half of America refuses to believe things like this can happen here. "A stitch is time" if far too **insert any adjective*** of a concept for them.

Hugh Lincoln
01-02-2008, 08:26 PM
In many respects, it's already here. Whites are basically people with lovely intentions who are taken advantage of by non-whites who know damn well that they can get their way by crying "racist". Whites think that America is only going to get better the more multiracial it becomes, and they further want to bite the head off anyone who questions that. So, in a sense, whites are digging their own graves.

Dilloduck
01-02-2008, 10:29 PM
In many respects, it's already here. Whites are basically people with lovely intentions who are taken advantage of by non-whites who know damn well that they can get their way by crying "racist". Whites think that America is only going to get better the more multiracial it becomes, and they further want to bite the head off anyone who questions that. So, in a sense, whites are digging their own graves.

Dig ? White people won't dig !!! :laugh2:

typomaniac
01-02-2008, 10:53 PM
OMiGod! The sky is falling! QUICK! Let's rewrite the First Amendment to make Islam illegal! We need "Relocation Centers" here in the states, not just in Cuba!

Phew. Okay, now which of us ethic groups is next?

April15
01-02-2008, 11:29 PM
Dig ? White people won't dig !!! :laugh2:I am white and I dig and lift and shovel. A throwback to the crowmagnum age.

Dilloduck
01-03-2008, 12:24 AM
I am white and I dig and lift and shovel. A throwback to the crowmagnum age.

I do too---it was a joke.

gabosaurus
01-03-2008, 01:22 AM
Like Denmark is REALLY comparable with the U.S.

Yurt
01-03-2008, 01:47 AM
Like Denmark is REALLY comparable with the U.S.

it could be

Gunny
01-03-2008, 07:16 AM
OMiGod! The sky is falling! QUICK! Let's rewrite the First Amendment to make Islam illegal! We need "Relocation Centers" here in the states, not just in Cuba!

Phew. Okay, now which of us ethic groups is next?

OMiGod! THe sky is falling! QUIK! Let's rewrite the First Amendment to make Christianity illegal! We need reeducation centers here in the states.

:lame2:

Gadget (fmr Marine)
01-03-2008, 08:53 AM
Like Denmark is REALLY comparable with the U.S.

Have you ever been to Denmark....can you make the comparison, or are you just putting forth an unfounded opinion, based on your feelings and emotion?

I have been to Denmark, and it is very much like the US. It is very independent, supports freedom and tolerance. The did not adopt the Euro, and have shied away from "one world" EU government, as well.

Of all the European countries, Denmark is most like the US in attitude and culture, albeit a much smaller country.

gabosaurus
01-03-2008, 12:09 PM
I've been to northern Germany, but did not cross into Denmark. I believe Denmark is too small to resemble the U.S.
I would lean more toward Australia or one of the Scandinavian countries.

Hagbard Celine
01-03-2008, 12:58 PM
OMiGod! THe sky is falling! QUIK! Let's rewrite the First Amendment to make Christianity illegal! We need reeducation centers here in the states.

:lame2:

Where does this victim mentality come from? This is nowhere close to happening. It's not even a backburner issue--more like a paranoid gastric bubble.

Psychoblues
01-04-2008, 02:39 AM
Listen closely.



OMiGod! THe sky is falling! QUIK! Let's rewrite the First Amendment to make christianity illegal! We need reeducation centers here in the states.

gunny said that. No liberal would have ever imagined it.

Watermark
01-07-2008, 12:35 AM
I work for a Danish Company, and have been aware of the problems they are experienceing since 1996. I was just forwarded this email from a friend....it is worth consideration.

The US just doesn't get that much Muslim immigration. Besides, wouldn't it be, under your view, better to have a heavily CHristian group, like the Mexicans, dilute the power of the muslims?

:dance:

That's right.

Gadget (fmr Marine)
01-07-2008, 12:47 AM
I am not for illegal immigration, no matter their religion. Quite honestly, if I were in charge, I would require that all new immigrants be non-religious, as it seems religion is one of the primary reasons for non-assimilation into our society, as a whole.

The total number of Muslims in the US is quite difficult to determine, but estimates range from 1.1 million to over 8 million.

I have no problem with anyone who comes to the US legally, adopting english as thier primarly language, assimilates into our communities, and earns a living....not coming here and living off the backs of hardworking tax paying Americans.....

When they refuse to work, have more children than they can afford to take care of, and do not know enough English to take a drivers test, or understand how to fill out the simple tax form at the end of the year, I have a problem with it.

manu1959
01-07-2008, 01:33 AM
I've been to northern Germany, but did not cross into Denmark. I believe Denmark is too small to resemble the U.S.
I would lean more toward Australia or one of the Scandinavian countries.

danmark is a scandinavian country.....further, other scandinavian countires such as finland norway and sweden are also too small to resemble the us.....

Gadget (fmr Marine)
01-07-2008, 09:14 AM
I appreciate your feeling on the matter, but feelings have no relevance, as you have never been there, nor do you know anything about their government.

I find them a very similar country, in spirit and patriotism, which has been exploited by Muslims, as noted in the article. I pose the question, still....is it a preveiw of what could happen in the US?




I've been to northern Germany, but did not cross into Denmark. I believe Denmark is too small to resemble the U.S.
I would lean more toward Australia or one of the Scandinavian countries.